President Trump hits back at China with tariffs

/——-/ Breaking: @realDonaldTrump The United States hasn’t had a Trade Surplus with China in 40 years. They must end unfair trade, take down barriers and charge only Reciprocal Tariffs. The U.S. is losing $500 Billion a year, and has been losing Billions of Dollars for decades. Cannot continue!

only a fucking 3rd grader would think the fact we do not have a surplus means it is unfair. Tell me cellblock, do you have a deficit or a surplus with your local grocery store? I am betting you have a 100% deficit with them.
/——-/ I’m not following you down that idiotic rabbit hole.

Of course you are not, the GOP talking points did not give you an answer for this.
/----/ It's a stupid, meaningless analogy.

A trade deficit is a trade deficit, whether it is between us and China or you and your grocery story. We have a trade deficit with China because you and 300 million other people buy things from China, the exact same reason there is one with your grocery store.
 
Yes because they are cheaply made, don’t have the same regulations, don’t have to pay minimum wages, and didn’t have to pay Americans a tariff.
American companies have regulations, insurance, minimum wages, and have to pay China tariffs.
What’s fair about this way of competition, please explain


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"Fair" is a child's concept, nothing in life is "fair". The question to ask is it mutually beneficial. They make things we want, that is why we have a trade deficit with them, plain and simple. It is no different than the trade deficit you have with your local grocery store.

The idea that we can just tariff everything till it cost the same as it would if we made it here is ridiculous and one that will hurt most of the country. Not everybody is swimming in money as you seem to be and cannot afford for the goods they buy to go up by 15 to 50 percent.

I was against it when the Govt tried to tell me what kind of light bulb to buy, what kind of car to buy and now I am against it when the Govt tries to force me to buy based on where something is made. Only a statist can approve of such actions.


You take one drive though the Rust Belt, and you can see our current trade balance is not beneficial to US.


Our current trade situation is not mutually beneficial.


It is benefiting our trading partners at our expense.

Nothing is beneficial to the entire country, there are always winners and losers. Also, the Rust Belt started decaying long before China was even a player. If you want to attack the real culprit of the rust belt's demise, go after unions, they priced themselves right out of business.

Our country is in the midst of the 2nd longest period of economic expansion in the history of our country. We have basically full employment, wages are rising, we had a record setting financial market till the trade war started. None of those things would be possible if China was fucking us as badly as Trump tells you they are.
 
Yes, anyone that lives in your fantasy land would find those things to be true. Some of us choose reality
You believe trump and Russia? Really? Give me your evidence

No, I have never believed Trump himself worked with Russia on the election, I have stated that 100 times on this forum.
Then what the fk was your previous statement about?

Nobody is advocating loss of jobs to illegals and Trump's trade war with China is only a good idea if you wish to see the US enter another recession soon.
Sure the democrats are advocating for illegals to take citizens jobs. They’re better people. I watch news interviews weekly and read! You should try it

I am sure that Rush and Sean tell you that pretty much every day. When you only get one side of the story, it will always sound true.
 
You believe trump and Russia? Really? Give me your evidence

No, I have never believed Trump himself worked with Russia on the election, I have stated that 100 times on this forum.
Then what the fk was your previous statement about?

Nobody is advocating loss of jobs to illegals and Trump's trade war with China is only a good idea if you wish to see the US enter another recession soon.
Sure the democrats are advocating for illegals to take citizens jobs. They’re better people. I watch news interviews weekly and read! You should try it

I am sure that Rush and Sean tell you that pretty much every day. When you only get one side of the story, it will always sound true.
Nope don’t listen to them. I watch democrats being interviewed and read internet interviews and those telll me that. Hahahaha as I said you should read
 
12 eerie photos of enormous Chinese cities completely empty of people

Throughout China, there are hundreds of cities that have almost everything one needs for a modern, urban lifestyle: high-rise apartment complexes, developed waterfronts, skyscrapers, and even public art. Everything, that is, except one major factor: people.

These mysterious — and almost completely empty — cities are a part of China's larger plan to move up to 300 million citizens currently living in rural areas into urban locations. Places like the Kangbashi District of Ordos are already prepped and ready to be occupied.

Photographer Kai Caemmerer became fascinated with these urban plans, and in 2015 he traveled to China to explore and document them. His series, "Unborn Cities," depicts a completely new type of urban development. "Unlike in the US, where cities often begin as small developments and grow in accordance to the local industries, these new Chinese cities are built to the point of near completion before introducing people," he told Business Insider.

56c4a6f36e97c621048b7b4e-1334-1067.jpg
/----/ Liberals would love to corral Americans like this to better control us.

This from the statist wanting the Govt to control the economy! HA Do not look in the mirror much do you!



Trade policy is a valid government function.
 
No, I have never believed Trump himself worked with Russia on the election, I have stated that 100 times on this forum.
Then what the fk was your previous statement about?

Nobody is advocating loss of jobs to illegals and Trump's trade war with China is only a good idea if you wish to see the US enter another recession soon.
Sure the democrats are advocating for illegals to take citizens jobs. They’re better people. I watch news interviews weekly and read! You should try it

I am sure that Rush and Sean tell you that pretty much every day. When you only get one side of the story, it will always sound true.
Nope don’t listen to them. I watch democrats being interviewed and read internet interviews and those telll me that. Hahahaha as I said you should read

Feel free to provide the links then so that I can read them as well. I have never once heard anyone say that illegals should take jobs away from citizens. But since you hear it all the time, you should have a crap ton of links for me.

I will waiting so I can read them...thanks in advance.
 
12 eerie photos of enormous Chinese cities completely empty of people

Throughout China, there are hundreds of cities that have almost everything one needs for a modern, urban lifestyle: high-rise apartment complexes, developed waterfronts, skyscrapers, and even public art. Everything, that is, except one major factor: people.

These mysterious — and almost completely empty — cities are a part of China's larger plan to move up to 300 million citizens currently living in rural areas into urban locations. Places like the Kangbashi District of Ordos are already prepped and ready to be occupied.

Photographer Kai Caemmerer became fascinated with these urban plans, and in 2015 he traveled to China to explore and document them. His series, "Unborn Cities," depicts a completely new type of urban development. "Unlike in the US, where cities often begin as small developments and grow in accordance to the local industries, these new Chinese cities are built to the point of near completion before introducing people," he told Business Insider.

56c4a6f36e97c621048b7b4e-1334-1067.jpg
/----/ Liberals would love to corral Americans like this to better control us.

This from the statist wanting the Govt to control the economy! HA Do not look in the mirror much do you!



Trade policy is a valid government function.

A Lot of things are a valid government function, the question is how much control does the Govt get over them? Do you favor freedom or Govt control?

The more you have of the latter the less you have of the former, the two are constantly in competition.

Did you approve of the Govt telling you that you had to buy health insurance?

Did you approve of the Govt telling you what kind of light bulb to buy?
 
Yes because they are cheaply made, don’t have the same regulations, don’t have to pay minimum wages, and didn’t have to pay Americans a tariff.
American companies have regulations, insurance, minimum wages, and have to pay China tariffs.
What’s fair about this way of competition, please explain


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

"Fair" is a child's concept, nothing in life is "fair". The question to ask is it mutually beneficial. They make things we want, that is why we have a trade deficit with them, plain and simple. It is no different than the trade deficit you have with your local grocery store.

The idea that we can just tariff everything till it cost the same as it would if we made it here is ridiculous and one that will hurt most of the country. Not everybody is swimming in money as you seem to be and cannot afford for the goods they buy to go up by 15 to 50 percent.

I was against it when the Govt tried to tell me what kind of light bulb to buy, what kind of car to buy and now I am against it when the Govt tries to force me to buy based on where something is made. Only a statist can approve of such actions.


You take one drive though the Rust Belt, and you can see our current trade balance is not beneficial to US.


Our current trade situation is not mutually beneficial.


It is benefiting our trading partners at our expense.

Nothing is beneficial to the entire country, there are always winners and losers. Also, the Rust Belt started decaying long before China was even a player. If you want to attack the real culprit of the rust belt's demise, go after unions, they priced themselves right out of business.

Our country is in the midst of the 2nd longest period of economic expansion in the history of our country. We have basically full employment, wages are rising, we had a record setting financial market till the trade war started. None of those things would be possible if China was fucking us as badly as Trump tells you they are.


1. For 50 years the working class and middle class have been taking the hit for the rest of of the team. That cannot go on forever. It is time to give them some loving.

2. Correct. It started with Japan and Europe. China is the new low cost player, but Japan and Europe still have large surpluses with US too.

3. Unions are a pale shadow of what they once were. Blaming them now is not credible.

4. We are oceans behind where we should be. Middle class wages have been stagnate for generations. The jobs are often crap. We should have more and better jobs. We should be automating jobs, not because the staff are uneducated drug addicted morons, but because wages are too high.


5. China is utterly fucking US.
 
12 eerie photos of enormous Chinese cities completely empty of people

Throughout China, there are hundreds of cities that have almost everything one needs for a modern, urban lifestyle: high-rise apartment complexes, developed waterfronts, skyscrapers, and even public art. Everything, that is, except one major factor: people.

These mysterious — and almost completely empty — cities are a part of China's larger plan to move up to 300 million citizens currently living in rural areas into urban locations. Places like the Kangbashi District of Ordos are already prepped and ready to be occupied.

Photographer Kai Caemmerer became fascinated with these urban plans, and in 2015 he traveled to China to explore and document them. His series, "Unborn Cities," depicts a completely new type of urban development. "Unlike in the US, where cities often begin as small developments and grow in accordance to the local industries, these new Chinese cities are built to the point of near completion before introducing people," he told Business Insider.

56c4a6f36e97c621048b7b4e-1334-1067.jpg
/----/ Liberals would love to corral Americans like this to better control us.

This from the statist wanting the Govt to control the economy! HA Do not look in the mirror much do you!



Trade policy is a valid government function.

A Lot of things are a valid government function, the question is how much control does the Govt get over them? Do you favor freedom or Govt control?

The more you have of the latter the less you have of the former, the two are constantly in competition.

Did you approve of the Govt telling you that you had to buy health insurance?

Did you approve of the Govt telling you what kind of light bulb to buy?


1. Good, so you will drop all the arguments based on implying that trade policy is not a valid government function. I will hold you to that.


2. No to health insurance. NO to light bulb. Yes to Trade policy to protect American workers.
 
Yes because they are cheaply made, don’t have the same regulations, don’t have to pay minimum wages, and didn’t have to pay Americans a tariff.
American companies have regulations, insurance, minimum wages, and have to pay China tariffs.
What’s fair about this way of competition, please explain


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

"Fair" is a child's concept, nothing in life is "fair". The question to ask is it mutually beneficial. They make things we want, that is why we have a trade deficit with them, plain and simple. It is no different than the trade deficit you have with your local grocery store.

The idea that we can just tariff everything till it cost the same as it would if we made it here is ridiculous and one that will hurt most of the country. Not everybody is swimming in money as you seem to be and cannot afford for the goods they buy to go up by 15 to 50 percent.

I was against it when the Govt tried to tell me what kind of light bulb to buy, what kind of car to buy and now I am against it when the Govt tries to force me to buy based on where something is made. Only a statist can approve of such actions.


You take one drive though the Rust Belt, and you can see our current trade balance is not beneficial to US.


Our current trade situation is not mutually beneficial.


It is benefiting our trading partners at our expense.

Nothing is beneficial to the entire country, there are always winners and losers. Also, the Rust Belt started decaying long before China was even a player. If you want to attack the real culprit of the rust belt's demise, go after unions, they priced themselves right out of business.

Our country is in the midst of the 2nd longest period of economic expansion in the history of our country. We have basically full employment, wages are rising, we had a record setting financial market till the trade war started. None of those things would be possible if China was fucking us as badly as Trump tells you they are.


1. For 50 years the working class and middle class have been taking the hit for the rest of of the team. That cannot go on forever. It is time to give them some loving.

2. Correct. It started with Japan and Europe. China is the new low cost player, but Japan and Europe still have large surpluses with US too.

3. Unions are a pale shadow of what they once were. Blaming them now is not credible.

4. We are oceans behind where we should be. Middle class wages have been stagnate for generations. The jobs are often crap. We should have more and better jobs. We should be automating jobs, not because the staff are uneducated drug addicted morons, but because wages are too high.


5. China is utterly fucking US.

1. Not because of trade policies but because of "greedy corporations". Productivity in America has tripled while wages have grown slowly if at all. How is that China's fault?

2. Because they make things we want. It is really that simple. We have a trade deficit because you, me and 300 million other people choose to buy from those places. And now you want the Govt to tell us we cannot do that...

3. What they are now is not relevant, it is what they were when they drove the jobs out of the country that is relevant. You cannot turn back time, we cannot go back to the 50s no matter how much you want to.

4. Should is meaningless concept. I should be a multi-millionaire, but damn it I am not! It is not fair!
 
12 eerie photos of enormous Chinese cities completely empty of people

Throughout China, there are hundreds of cities that have almost everything one needs for a modern, urban lifestyle: high-rise apartment complexes, developed waterfronts, skyscrapers, and even public art. Everything, that is, except one major factor: people.

These mysterious — and almost completely empty — cities are a part of China's larger plan to move up to 300 million citizens currently living in rural areas into urban locations. Places like the Kangbashi District of Ordos are already prepped and ready to be occupied.

Photographer Kai Caemmerer became fascinated with these urban plans, and in 2015 he traveled to China to explore and document them. His series, "Unborn Cities," depicts a completely new type of urban development. "Unlike in the US, where cities often begin as small developments and grow in accordance to the local industries, these new Chinese cities are built to the point of near completion before introducing people," he told Business Insider.

56c4a6f36e97c621048b7b4e-1334-1067.jpg
/----/ Liberals would love to corral Americans like this to better control us.

This from the statist wanting the Govt to control the economy! HA Do not look in the mirror much do you!



Trade policy is a valid government function.

A Lot of things are a valid government function, the question is how much control does the Govt get over them? Do you favor freedom or Govt control?

The more you have of the latter the less you have of the former, the two are constantly in competition.

Did you approve of the Govt telling you that you had to buy health insurance?

Did you approve of the Govt telling you what kind of light bulb to buy?


1. Good, so you will drop all the arguments based on implying that trade policy is not a valid government function. I will hold you to that.


2. No to health insurance. NO to light bulb. Yes to Trade policy to protect American workers.

1. Never claimed it was not, again it comes down to if you want capitalism or socialism as the engine driving your economy. You are choosing the latter.
 
Yes because they are cheaply made, don’t have the same regulations, don’t have to pay minimum wages, and didn’t have to pay Americans a tariff.
American companies have regulations, insurance, minimum wages, and have to pay China tariffs.
What’s fair about this way of competition, please explain


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

"Fair" is a child's concept, nothing in life is "fair". The question to ask is it mutually beneficial. They make things we want, that is why we have a trade deficit with them, plain and simple. It is no different than the trade deficit you have with your local grocery store.

The idea that we can just tariff everything till it cost the same as it would if we made it here is ridiculous and one that will hurt most of the country. Not everybody is swimming in money as you seem to be and cannot afford for the goods they buy to go up by 15 to 50 percent.

I was against it when the Govt tried to tell me what kind of light bulb to buy, what kind of car to buy and now I am against it when the Govt tries to force me to buy based on where something is made. Only a statist can approve of such actions.


You take one drive though the Rust Belt, and you can see our current trade balance is not beneficial to US.


Our current trade situation is not mutually beneficial.


It is benefiting our trading partners at our expense.

Nothing is beneficial to the entire country, there are always winners and losers. Also, the Rust Belt started decaying long before China was even a player. If you want to attack the real culprit of the rust belt's demise, go after unions, they priced themselves right out of business.

Our country is in the midst of the 2nd longest period of economic expansion in the history of our country. We have basically full employment, wages are rising, we had a record setting financial market till the trade war started. None of those things would be possible if China was fucking us as badly as Trump tells you they are.


Them mean old unions fighting for better wages, benefits and working conditions . Had nothing to do with the companies not even trying to upgrade their own facilities. Nah couldn't be that.
 
Yes because they are cheaply made, don’t have the same regulations, don’t have to pay minimum wages, and didn’t have to pay Americans a tariff.
American companies have regulations, insurance, minimum wages, and have to pay China tariffs.
What’s fair about this way of competition, please explain


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

"Fair" is a child's concept, nothing in life is "fair". The question to ask is it mutually beneficial. They make things we want, that is why we have a trade deficit with them, plain and simple. It is no different than the trade deficit you have with your local grocery store.

The idea that we can just tariff everything till it cost the same as it would if we made it here is ridiculous and one that will hurt most of the country. Not everybody is swimming in money as you seem to be and cannot afford for the goods they buy to go up by 15 to 50 percent.

I was against it when the Govt tried to tell me what kind of light bulb to buy, what kind of car to buy and now I am against it when the Govt tries to force me to buy based on where something is made. Only a statist can approve of such actions.


You take one drive though the Rust Belt, and you can see our current trade balance is not beneficial to US.


Our current trade situation is not mutually beneficial.


It is benefiting our trading partners at our expense.

Nothing is beneficial to the entire country, there are always winners and losers. Also, the Rust Belt started decaying long before China was even a player. If you want to attack the real culprit of the rust belt's demise, go after unions, they priced themselves right out of business.

Our country is in the midst of the 2nd longest period of economic expansion in the history of our country. We have basically full employment, wages are rising, we had a record setting financial market till the trade war started. None of those things would be possible if China was fucking us as badly as Trump tells you they are.


1. For 50 years the working class and middle class have been taking the hit for the rest of of the team. That cannot go on forever. It is time to give them some loving.

2. Correct. It started with Japan and Europe. China is the new low cost player, but Japan and Europe still have large surpluses with US too.

3. Unions are a pale shadow of what they once were. Blaming them now is not credible.

4. We are oceans behind where we should be. Middle class wages have been stagnate for generations. The jobs are often crap. We should have more and better jobs. We should be automating jobs, not because the staff are uneducated drug addicted morons, but because wages are too high.


5. China is utterly fucking US.

1. Not because of trade policies but because of "greedy corporations". Productivity in America has tripled while wages have grown slowly if at all. How is that China's fault?

2. Because they make things we want. It is really that simple. We have a trade deficit because you, me and 300 million other people choose to buy from those places. And now you want the Govt to tell us we cannot do that...

3. What they are now is not relevant, it is what they were when they drove the jobs out of the country that is relevant. You cannot turn back time, we cannot go back to the 50s no matter how much you want to.

4. Should is meaningless concept. I should be a multi-millionaire, but damn it I am not! It is not fair!


1. Because US workers are competing with low paid Third World workers. A us worker may be more productive than a chinese worker, but not more productive than 6 chinese workers (for the same wage)


2. WE make or made everything. It was trade policy that dumped their exports here cheaply and would not let our in their markets fairly.


3. There are plenty of US non union manufacturing now. Yet they are struggling the same way the union manufacturing of the past did. THe problem is not the unions. It is unfair trade.


4. You brought up our current situation. I contrasted it with were we were going, before we changed policies. That's valid.
 
/----/ Liberals would love to corral Americans like this to better control us.

This from the statist wanting the Govt to control the economy! HA Do not look in the mirror much do you!



Trade policy is a valid government function.

A Lot of things are a valid government function, the question is how much control does the Govt get over them? Do you favor freedom or Govt control?

The more you have of the latter the less you have of the former, the two are constantly in competition.

Did you approve of the Govt telling you that you had to buy health insurance?

Did you approve of the Govt telling you what kind of light bulb to buy?


1. Good, so you will drop all the arguments based on implying that trade policy is not a valid government function. I will hold you to that.


2. No to health insurance. NO to light bulb. Yes to Trade policy to protect American workers.

1. Never claimed it was not, again it comes down to if you want capitalism or socialism as the engine driving your economy. You are choosing the latter.
I believe it comes down to potential enemy recognition...................It's your for the U.S. or China........You are choosing the latter.............
 
/----/ Liberals would love to corral Americans like this to better control us.

This from the statist wanting the Govt to control the economy! HA Do not look in the mirror much do you!



Trade policy is a valid government function.

A Lot of things are a valid government function, the question is how much control does the Govt get over them? Do you favor freedom or Govt control?

The more you have of the latter the less you have of the former, the two are constantly in competition.

Did you approve of the Govt telling you that you had to buy health insurance?

Did you approve of the Govt telling you what kind of light bulb to buy?


1. Good, so you will drop all the arguments based on implying that trade policy is not a valid government function. I will hold you to that.


2. No to health insurance. NO to light bulb. Yes to Trade policy to protect American workers.

1. Never claimed it was not, again it comes down to if you want capitalism or socialism as the engine driving your economy. You are choosing the latter.



Not accepting trade that is not mutually beneficial is not socialism.


That you made that claim, shows that you know you cannot defend your position honestly.
 
If protectionism doesn't work...........Why is China using it..................And if it fails..........why are they the largest economic growth country in the world............

boogles the mind.
 
Then what the fk was your previous statement about?

Nobody is advocating loss of jobs to illegals and Trump's trade war with China is only a good idea if you wish to see the US enter another recession soon.
Sure the democrats are advocating for illegals to take citizens jobs. They’re better people. I watch news interviews weekly and read! You should try it

I am sure that Rush and Sean tell you that pretty much every day. When you only get one side of the story, it will always sound true.
Nope don’t listen to them. I watch democrats being interviewed and read internet interviews and those telll me that. Hahahaha as I said you should read

Feel free to provide the links then so that I can read them as well. I have never once heard anyone say that illegals should take jobs away from citizens. But since you hear it all the time, you should have a crap ton of links for me.

I will waiting so I can read them...thanks in advance.
Hahahaha go enter that in google and read. I’m not your teacher

Do Democrats even want an immigration deal?
 
/----/ Liberals would love to corral Americans like this to better control us.

This from the statist wanting the Govt to control the economy! HA Do not look in the mirror much do you!



Trade policy is a valid government function.

A Lot of things are a valid government function, the question is how much control does the Govt get over them? Do you favor freedom or Govt control?

The more you have of the latter the less you have of the former, the two are constantly in competition.

Did you approve of the Govt telling you that you had to buy health insurance?

Did you approve of the Govt telling you what kind of light bulb to buy?


1. Good, so you will drop all the arguments based on implying that trade policy is not a valid government function. I will hold you to that.


2. No to health insurance. NO to light bulb. Yes to Trade policy to protect American workers.

1. Never claimed it was not, again it comes down to if you want capitalism or socialism as the engine driving your economy. You are choosing the latter.
Funny, I thought this was about fair trade. Hmmmm
 
/——-/ Breaking: @realDonaldTrump The United States hasn’t had a Trade Surplus with China in 40 years. They must end unfair trade, take down barriers and charge only Reciprocal Tariffs. The U.S. is losing $500 Billion a year, and has been losing Billions of Dollars for decades. Cannot continue!

only a fucking 3rd grader would think the fact we do not have a surplus means it is unfair. Tell me cellblock, do you have a deficit or a surplus with your local grocery store? I am betting you have a 100% deficit with them.
/——-/ I’m not following you down that idiotic rabbit hole.

Of course you are not, the GOP talking points did not give you an answer for this.
/----/ It's a stupid, meaningless analogy.

A trade deficit is a trade deficit, whether it is between us and China or you and your grocery story. We have a trade deficit with China because you and 300 million other people buy things from China, the exact same reason there is one with your grocery store.
You keep using this and it is in accurate . I don’t trade. I buy. They don’t buy from me. It’s one way. Look up one way flow
 
Yes because they are cheaply made, don’t have the same regulations, don’t have to pay minimum wages, and didn’t have to pay Americans a tariff.
American companies have regulations, insurance, minimum wages, and have to pay China tariffs.
What’s fair about this way of competition, please explain


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

"Fair" is a child's concept, nothing in life is "fair". The question to ask is it mutually beneficial. They make things we want, that is why we have a trade deficit with them, plain and simple. It is no different than the trade deficit you have with your local grocery store.

The idea that we can just tariff everything till it cost the same as it would if we made it here is ridiculous and one that will hurt most of the country. Not everybody is swimming in money as you seem to be and cannot afford for the goods they buy to go up by 15 to 50 percent.

I was against it when the Govt tried to tell me what kind of light bulb to buy, what kind of car to buy and now I am against it when the Govt tries to force me to buy based on where something is made. Only a statist can approve of such actions.


You take one drive though the Rust Belt, and you can see our current trade balance is not beneficial to US.


Our current trade situation is not mutually beneficial.


It is benefiting our trading partners at our expense.

Nothing is beneficial to the entire country, there are always winners and losers. Also, the Rust Belt started decaying long before China was even a player. If you want to attack the real culprit of the rust belt's demise, go after unions, they priced themselves right out of business.

Our country is in the midst of the 2nd longest period of economic expansion in the history of our country. We have basically full employment, wages are rising, we had a record setting financial market till the trade war started. None of those things would be possible if China was fucking us as badly as Trump tells you they are.


1. For 50 years the working class and middle class have been taking the hit for the rest of of the team. That cannot go on forever. It is time to give them some loving.

2. Correct. It started with Japan and Europe. China is the new low cost player, but Japan and Europe still have large surpluses with US too.

3. Unions are a pale shadow of what they once were. Blaming them now is not credible.

4. We are oceans behind where we should be. Middle class wages have been stagnate for generations. The jobs are often crap. We should have more and better jobs. We should be automating jobs, not because the staff are uneducated drug addicted morons, but because wages are too high.


5. China is utterly fucking US.
Accurately, it’s called rape
 

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