Question, why do christians bow to statues?

[irosie91]

Why do Jews celebrate the murder of every first born son of Egypt?

Never saw it as celebrating the deaths so much as commemorating the event, and giving thanks to God for the rescue.

I would imagine that Christians feel the same way towards any rituals they observe. I am merely pointing out to guano that ALL religions have rituals and traditions that others find either weird or offensive.

You celebrate Passover as a rescue, Egyptians view it as murdering their children. Same event, different POV depending on how you were affected. guano's not evolved enough to understand that rituals are rituals. ALL of them should be respected.

Really? so Jew when we go into the synagogues bow and kneel for the Passover? Have to remember and tell my fellow Jews

Do you celebrate the Passover? Yes or no. If you do then you are celebrating the murder of every first born son in Egypt. So, Christians kneel, and you celebrate the murder of children.

Got it.

typical islamo Nazi dog--- best you can do, westballofshit? ------that idiotic line has been repeated thousands of times by your inebriated gutter sluts

 

[Avatar4321]

Why do you bow to a big eared disaster?

So you don't know why you bow and pray to statues?

Sure I do but you'd never grasp it. Why do you make so many threads about something it is obvious you are clueless about? Did a Christian pee in your Fruity Pebbles?

I asked a simple question that you cannot even answer, why is that?

Symbolism, now answer my questions

I thought christians claimed to follow the Hebrew Bible

Why don't you focus on worshiping the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob yourself rather than idol worshiping before you get on the case of others.

 

[guno]

So you don't know why you bow and pray to statues?

Sure I do but you'd never grasp it. Why do you make so many threads about something it is obvious you are clueless about? Did a Christian pee in your Fruity Pebbles?

I asked a simple question that you cannot even answer, why is that?

Symbolism, now answer my questions

I thought christians claimed to follow the Hebrew Bible

Why don't you focus on worshiping the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob yourself rather than idol worshiping before you get on the case of others.

Kolobian says what

 

[Avatar4321]

A simple answer for a simple mind. They are not bowing to the statue, but to what the statue represents.

And what does a statue of a women wearing a crown represent? And why do you need statues?

Why not ask a Catholic?

Because he can't smear all Christians that way. Much easier to pretend there is no difference.

 

[irosie91]

So you don't know why you bow and pray to statues?

Sure I do but you'd never grasp it. Why do you make so many threads about something it is obvious you are clueless about? Did a Christian pee in your Fruity Pebbles?

I asked a simple question that you cannot even answer, why is that?

Symbolism, now answer my questions

I thought christians claimed to follow the Hebrew Bible

Why don't you focus on worshiping the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob yourself rather than idol worshiping before you get on the case of others.

what fun is that??

 

[Avatar4321]

Guess it's easier to try to attack the perceived hypocrisy of others than stop your own.

 

[irosie91]

Guess it's easier to try to attack the perceived hypocrisy of others than stop your own.

so true------and a lot more entertaining

 

[westwall]

Very bad correlation. The bigotry was deflected and grouping people like you did can be construed as Bigotry especially in light of your missinformation passover comment. You are breaking forum rules.

Not in the slightest. We are talking about perception. Jews honor and remember the Passover because that was the beginning of their salvation and escape from Egypt. Egyptians view it differently. That is the whole point. That is why bigotry based on religious views OF ANY SORT, is an abomination against whatever God you may worship.

Bigotry is the first step in dehumanizing your opponent. Once a opponent is dehumanized it makes it far easier to kill them.

 

[westwall]

Why do Jews celebrate the murder of every first born son of Egypt?

Never saw it as celebrating the deaths so much as commemorating the event, and giving thanks to God for the rescue.

I would imagine that Christians feel the same way towards any rituals they observe. I am merely pointing out to guano that ALL religions have rituals and traditions that others find either weird or offensive.

You celebrate Passover as a rescue, Egyptians view it as murdering their children. Same event, different POV depending on how you were affected. guano's not evolved enough to understand that rituals are rituals. ALL of them should be respected.

Really? so Jew when we go into the synagogues bow and kneel for the Passover? Have to remember and tell my fellow Jews

Do you celebrate the Passover? Yes or no. If you do then you are celebrating the murder of every first born son in Egypt. So, Christians kneel, and you celebrate the murder of children.

Got it.

typical islamo Nazi dog--- best you can do, westballofshit? ------that idiotic line has been repeated thousands of times by your inebriated gutter sluts

I guess you don't know me very well. I attack the Islamic bigots here every bit as harshly as I attack ANY bigot. Whether that bigotry is based on religion, sexual preference, or color of ones skin.

Bigotry is evil. Bigotry is a tool used by people with small brains to dehumanize those they don't like to make their murder easier. This has been shown through history so many times that it takes a truly stupid person to ignore the teachings of history.

You and guano merely show how bigots, the world over, are incredibly stupid and ignorant.

 

[irosie91]

Not in the slightest. We are talking about perception. Jews honor and remember the Passover because that was the beginning of their salvation and escape from Egypt. Egyptians view it differently. That is the whole point. That is why bigotry based on religious views OF ANY SORT, is an abomination against whatever God you may worship.

Bigotry is the first step in dehumanizing your opponent. Once a opponent is dehumanized it makes it far easier to kill them.[/QUOTE]

I am fascinated westball, I have known lots of persons from Egypt------and other than the few jews from that country----I have never met an Egyptian muslim or Christian who had any POV at
all about Passover. -----or the "death of the first born"----
Modern day Egyptians do not IDENTIFY with the Egyptians of ancient times or Pharoah Ramses or Yul Brenner. Modern day
muslims identify with SALA'ADIN ----who was not actually Egyptian
but he did live there. --------they even ID with Alexander who passed
thru-------It seems to me that modern day Egyptians see their pyramids
as something like museums built be "someone else" I have known
Egyptian muslims eager to link up with muhummad-----but never
KING TUT

 

[irosie91]

Never saw it as celebrating the deaths so much as commemorating the event, and giving thanks to God for the rescue.

I would imagine that Christians feel the same way towards any rituals they observe. I am merely pointing out to guano that ALL religions have rituals and traditions that others find either weird or offensive.

You celebrate Passover as a rescue, Egyptians view it as murdering their children. Same event, different POV depending on how you were affected. guano's not evolved enough to understand that rituals are rituals. ALL of them should be respected.

Really? so Jew when we go into the synagogues bow and kneel for the Passover? Have to remember and tell my fellow Jews

Do you celebrate the Passover? Yes or no. If you do then you are celebrating the murder of every first born son in Egypt. So, Christians kneel, and you celebrate the murder of children.

Got it.

typical islamo Nazi dog--- best you can do, westballofshit? ------that idiotic line has been repeated thousands of times by your inebriated gutter sluts

I guess you don't know me very well. I attack the Islamic bigots here every bit as harshly as I attack ANY bigot. Whether that bigotry is based on religion, sexual preference, or color of ones skin.

Bigotry is evil. Bigotry is a tool used by people with small brains to dehumanize those they don't like to make their murder easier. This has been shown through history so many times that it takes a truly stupid person to ignore the teachings of history.

You and guano merely show how bigots, the world over, are incredibly stupid and ignorant.

I know you well enough to know that you parroted an old worn out libel ----often cited by islamo Nazis----BTW--your statement that Egyptians
resent the fact that ALLAH inflicted plagues on Egyptians is really a bit dim

 

[westwall]

Not in the slightest. We are talking about perception. Jews honor and remember the Passover because that was the beginning of their salvation and escape from Egypt. Egyptians view it differently. That is the whole point. That is why bigotry based on religious views OF ANY SORT, is an abomination against whatever God you may worship.

Bigotry is the first step in dehumanizing your opponent. Once a opponent is dehumanized it makes it far easier to kill them.

I am fascinated westball, I have known lots of persons from Egypt------and other than the few jews from that country----I have never met an Egyptian muslim or Christian who had any POV at
all about Passover. -----or the "death of the first born"----
Modern day Egyptians do not IDENTIFY with the Egyptians of ancient times or Pharoah Ramses or Yul Brenner. Modern day
muslims identify with SALA'ADIN ----who was not actually Egyptian
but he did live there. --------they even ID with Alexander who passed
thru-------It seems to me that modern day Egyptians see their pyramids
as something like museums built be "someone else" I have known
Egyptian muslims eager to link up with muhummad-----but never
KING TUT[/QUOTE]








Yes, the ultimate form of bigotry is to destroy anything that came before. ISIS and their murder of the Zoroastrians is a wonderful example. Thank you so much for reinforcing my point.

 

[irosie91]

Not in the slightest. We are talking about perception. Jews honor and remember the Passover because that was the beginning of their salvation and escape from Egypt. Egyptians view it differently. That is the whole point. That is why bigotry based on religious views OF ANY SORT, is an abomination against whatever God you may worship.

Bigotry is the first step in dehumanizing your opponent. Once a opponent is dehumanized it makes it far easier to kill them.

I am fascinated westball, I have known lots of persons from Egypt------and other than the few jews from that country----I have never met an Egyptian muslim or Christian who had any POV at
all about Passover. -----or the "death of the first born"----
Modern day Egyptians do not IDENTIFY with the Egyptians of ancient times or Pharoah Ramses or Yul Brenner. Modern day
muslims identify with SALA'ADIN ----who was not actually Egyptian
but he did live there. --------they even ID with Alexander who passed
thru-------It seems to me that modern day Egyptians see their pyramids
as something like museums built be "someone else" I have known
Egyptian muslims eager to link up with muhummad-----but never
KING TUT

Yes, the ultimate form of bigotry is to destroy anything that came before. ISIS and their murder of the Zoroastrians is a wonderful example. Thank you so much for reinforcing my point.[/QUOTE]

what point was that? you wanted to reinforce the fact that muslims
destroy that which preceded islam? -------ok-----that is true by why
make that point?

 

[westwall]

Not in the slightest. We are talking about perception. Jews honor and remember the Passover because that was the beginning of their salvation and escape from Egypt. Egyptians view it differently. That is the whole point. That is why bigotry based on religious views OF ANY SORT, is an abomination against whatever God you may worship.

Bigotry is the first step in dehumanizing your opponent. Once a opponent is dehumanized it makes it far easier to kill them.

I am fascinated westball, I have known lots of persons from Egypt------and other than the few jews from that country----I have never met an Egyptian muslim or Christian who had any POV at
all about Passover. -----or the "death of the first born"----
Modern day Egyptians do not IDENTIFY with the Egyptians of ancient times or Pharoah Ramses or Yul Brenner. Modern day
muslims identify with SALA'ADIN ----who was not actually Egyptian
but he did live there. --------they even ID with Alexander who passed
thru-------It seems to me that modern day Egyptians see their pyramids
as something like museums built be "someone else" I have known
Egyptian muslims eager to link up with muhummad-----but never
KING TUT

Yes, the ultimate form of bigotry is to destroy anything that came before. ISIS and their murder of the Zoroastrians is a wonderful example. Thank you so much for reinforcing my point.

what point was that? you wanted to reinforce the fact that muslims
destroy that which preceded islam? -------ok-----that is true by why
make that point?[/QUOTE]





No, the point I am making, and that you and guano seem too dim to understand, is that before you can get people to kill other people, you must first get them to hate those other people. Bigotry is the first tool in the tool box of hatred that leads to mass murder.

 

[irosie91]

Not in the slightest. We are talking about perception. Jews honor and remember the Passover because that was the beginning of their salvation and escape from Egypt. Egyptians view it differently. That is the whole point. That is why bigotry based on religious views OF ANY SORT, is an abomination against whatever God you may worship.

Bigotry is the first step in dehumanizing your opponent. Once a opponent is dehumanized it makes it far easier to kill them.

I am fascinated westball, I have known lots of persons from Egypt------and other than the few jews from that country----I have never met an Egyptian muslim or Christian who had any POV at
all about Passover. -----or the "death of the first born"----
Modern day Egyptians do not IDENTIFY with the Egyptians of ancient times or Pharoah Ramses or Yul Brenner. Modern day
muslims identify with SALA'ADIN ----who was not actually Egyptian
but he did live there. --------they even ID with Alexander who passed
thru-------It seems to me that modern day Egyptians see their pyramids
as something like museums built be "someone else" I have known
Egyptian muslims eager to link up with muhummad-----but never
KING TUT

Yes, the ultimate form of bigotry is to destroy anything that came before. ISIS and their murder of the Zoroastrians is a wonderful example. Thank you so much for reinforcing my point.

what point was that? you wanted to reinforce the fact that muslims
destroy that which preceded islam? -------ok-----that is true by why
make that point?

No, the point I am making, and that you and guano seem too dim to understand, is that before you can get people to kill other people, you must first get them to hate those other people. Bigotry is the first tool in the tool box of hatred that leads to mass murder.[/QUOTE]

barely a point. I actually do not believe that the USA went on a
LETS HATE JAPS program for the 100 years prior to Pearl Harbor-----in fact I wonder who are the people involved in "getting people to hate other people"???? It is a world central agency?

 

[westwall]

Not in the slightest. We are talking about perception. Jews honor and remember the Passover because that was the beginning of their salvation and escape from Egypt. Egyptians view it differently. That is the whole point. That is why bigotry based on religious views OF ANY SORT, is an abomination against whatever God you may worship.

Bigotry is the first step in dehumanizing your opponent. Once a opponent is dehumanized it makes it far easier to kill them.

I am fascinated westball, I have known lots of persons from Egypt------and other than the few jews from that country----I have never met an Egyptian muslim or Christian who had any POV at
all about Passover. -----or the "death of the first born"----
Modern day Egyptians do not IDENTIFY with the Egyptians of ancient times or Pharoah Ramses or Yul Brenner. Modern day
muslims identify with SALA'ADIN ----who was not actually Egyptian
but he did live there. --------they even ID with Alexander who passed
thru-------It seems to me that modern day Egyptians see their pyramids
as something like museums built be "someone else" I have known
Egyptian muslims eager to link up with muhummad-----but never
KING TUT

Yes, the ultimate form of bigotry is to destroy anything that came before. ISIS and their murder of the Zoroastrians is a wonderful example. Thank you so much for reinforcing my point.

what point was that? you wanted to reinforce the fact that muslims
destroy that which preceded islam? -------ok-----that is true by why
make that point?

No, the point I am making, and that you and guano seem too dim to understand, is that before you can get people to kill other people, you must first get them to hate those other people. Bigotry is the first tool in the tool box of hatred that leads to mass murder.

barely a point. I actually do not believe that the USA went on a
LETS HATE JAPS program for the 100 years prior to Pearl Harbor-----in fact I wonder who are the people involved in "getting people to hate other people"???? It is a world central agency?[/QUOTE]








You're not very good at this are you? Might I suggest that you do a little research before you make a complete ass of yourself yet again. You gross ignorance is simply astonishing. Are you sure you know how to wipe your own ass?

 

[hobelim]

Whats up with these?

All Catholics are required to memorize the ten commandments before becoming confirmed and once they pass the test that they know the divine commands by heart the very first thing they do as confirmed Catholics is to violate the first commandment and worship a lifeless material object made by human hands as if it was a god that could give spiritual life to those who eat it.

WTF!

Either they are completely lost and confused and deserve our pity or the practice foundational to their entire religion is a deliberate desecration of the teachings of Jesus and demonstration of pure hatred for God.

Most of us dumb RC's do not believe Jesus is God, why some Protestants do is beyond me. He is the son of God and no where does he claim to be God. But hey like you have what Yaweth for your God, some Christians have Jesus, and if your smart like me, one realizes that no one on earth knows anything, so its ok to worship how you want, as long as you

never ever hurt other people, lie, steal, or cheat, kill or murder. Live in peace, and then whatever the name of your God is, he, she or it , will be very pleased with you.

Penelope, If you are RC and you do not believe that Jesus is God then you are just a heretic according to your own church and a hypocrite and a false person according to everyone else for claiming an association with a religion that is entirely based on that which you do not believe..

"and if your smart like me"? lol....

yeah, right.

 

[Penelope]

Whats up with these?

All Catholics are required to memorize the ten commandments before becoming confirmed and once they pass the test that they know the divine commands by heart the very first thing they do as confirmed Catholics is to violate the first commandment and worship a lifeless material object made by human hands as if it was a god that could give spiritual life to those who eat it.

WTF!

Either they are completely lost and confused and deserve our pity or the practice foundational to their entire religion is a deliberate desecration of the teachings of Jesus and demonstration of pure hatred for God.

Most of us dumb RC's do not believe Jesus is God, why some Protestants do is beyond me. He is the son of God and no where does he claim to be God. But hey like you have what Yaweth for your God, some Christians have Jesus, and if your smart like me, one realizes that no one on earth knows anything, so its ok to worship how you want, as long as you

never ever hurt other people, lie, steal, or cheat, kill or murder. Live in peace, and then whatever the name of your God is, he, she or it , will be very pleased with you.

Penelope, If you are RC and you do not believe that Jesus is God then you are just a heretic according to your own church and a hypocrite and a false person according to everyone else for claiming an association with a religion that is entirely based on that which you do not believe..

"and if your smart like me"? lol....

yeah, right.

Now are you RC or Christian?

 

[Penelope]

One is not supposed to have any gods before the gd of abraham isaac or jacob plus no veneration of dead saints..deut 5:9 comes to mind but there are many more verses... I just find it interesting that someone would give homage to a hunk of clay or wood...i realize woods and trees were venerated they were called asherah.. And rocks also in some fashion but one would think that in todays day and age these symbols of pagan lore would have been removed from people as we are so much more sophisticated....or are we.???

Well Abraham , Issac and Jacob had different Gods and so did Moses. None were Jews either. Isn't i

I don't see you posting anything different.

You folks both seem to think that all Christians are Catholic.

I always felt that if you're going to start criticizing something....you should at least understand it first.

You obviously don't read every post, but that's understandable seeing that the missionary strategy is to flood and flame to hide posts, so you can't be educated/informed.
I specifically said "most " (not all) Catholics
are the greatest abusers of this rule or warning about idols.
BUT THAT most sects (at least the non Michaeline ones) still committ to some varying degrees of idol worship especially since Jesus himself is considered an idol.

The Temple Scroll:
(IIQT=IIQ19,20, 4Q365a)
Column II (The Covenant)
You must not bring any abominable idol into your house and come under the ban together with it.
You shall detest and abominate it for it is under the ban.
The rest talks about taking care not to make a covenant with the people who whore after their idol gods and sacrifice to it inviting them to do the same.

Metal idols
Leviticus 19:4
"`Do not turn to idols or make gods of cast metal for yourselves. I am the LORD your God.
1 Kings 14:9
Isaiah 48:5

Isaiah 44:10
Who hath formed a god, or molten a graven image that is profitable for nothing?


Literally the worship of images, idolatry in thebroader sense means allegiance to false values that substitute for God.
idols are regarded as evil spirits and Satan (adversary practice); those whoworship them are therefore enemies to God. The idol-gods, beingspiritual beings, have the nature of creatures, rather than of God, andhence cannot profit their adherents--cf. Spiritual Error and the Occult. The Bible views idols as human artifacts, not asrepresentations of deity. Hence idol worship is regarded as a form ofmaterialism, and, conversely, any false reliance on human power orwealth is a form of idolatry. A more spiritual conception of idolatryis to identify it with egoism and human craving, since attachment tothese false realities separates us from our true nature. In ourcentury, the idols of nationalism, racism, and secular ideologies havecaptivated millions, with horrible results.

The prophets (including Elijah, Elisha, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel) were spokesmen for God to the people and to their leaders: they often disagreed with the men in power and had no fear of expressing their messages from God -- generally directing against the idolatry and "false gods." Jeremiah warned the people not to use idols such as totem-pole-like "gods"
Idols: it has Imigrated into Men’s minds from the dogma’s of the churches philosophies, also from the wrong path of the Hierarchy that imposes the control. It is in the way they bow to the cross, burn candles, kiss medalions and worship a Prophet as God Himself in place of God. One of the things that G0D forbids is idols, worship using images gods or even of G0D himself (Exodus 20:4 and Leviticus 26:1). Man, as it is written, was created as an image of G0D (Genesis 1:27). And, so, worshipping a man as G0D is idolatry.
After all, G0D himself says that "G0D is not a man" (in Isaiah 2:22, 14:13, I Samuel 15:29, Numbers 23:19, and Hosea 11:9).


In Isiah44;9 It states they that make a graven image are all of them vanity and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses;(christians) they see not; nor know; that they may be ashamed. Still confused well here is some more. Isaiah44;13(notice it is 13) The carpenter(Who is that was Jesus not considered a carpenter) strecheth out his rule(over the world)he marketh it out with a line;he fitteth it with planes and he marketh it out with a compass, and maketh it after the fiqure of a man(JESUS);according to the beauty of a man;that it mat remain in the house(Maybe over your bed?) One more passage Isiah44;17 And the residue thereof he maketh a god(JESUS)Even his graven image(AGAIN JESUS);He falleth down unto it and worshippeth it. and prayeth unto it and saith Deliver me; for this art my god(JESUS=idol).

You best go read EZE again, Tammuz, does she ring a bell. You have your very own trinity, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, that is your trinity.

 

[irosie91]

Not in the slightest. We are talking about perception. Jews honor and remember the Passover because that was the beginning of their salvation and escape from Egypt. Egyptians view it differently. That is the whole point. That is why bigotry based on religious views OF ANY SORT, is an abomination against whatever God you may worship.

Bigotry is the first step in dehumanizing your opponent. Once a opponent is dehumanized it makes it far easier to kill them.

I am fascinated westball, I have known lots of persons from Egypt------and other than the few jews from that country----I have never met an Egyptian muslim or Christian who had any POV at
all about Passover. -----or the "death of the first born"----
Modern day Egyptians do not IDENTIFY with the Egyptians of ancient times or Pharoah Ramses or Yul Brenner. Modern day
muslims identify with SALA'ADIN ----who was not actually Egyptian
but he did live there. --------they even ID with Alexander who passed
thru-------It seems to me that modern day Egyptians see their pyramids
as something like museums built be "someone else" I have known
Egyptian muslims eager to link up with muhummad-----but never
KING TUT

Yes, the ultimate form of bigotry is to destroy anything that came before. ISIS and their murder of the Zoroastrians is a wonderful example. Thank you so much for reinforcing my point.

what point was that? you wanted to reinforce the fact that muslims
destroy that which preceded islam? -------ok-----that is true by why
make that point?

No, the point I am making, and that you and guano seem too dim to understand, is that before you can get people to kill other people, you must first get them to hate those other people. Bigotry is the first tool in the tool box of hatred that leads to mass murder.

barely a point. I actually do not believe that the USA went on a
LETS HATE JAPS program for the 100 years prior to Pearl Harbor-----in fact I wonder who are the people involved in "getting people to hate other people"???? It is a world central agency?

You're not very good at this are you? Might I suggest that you do a little research before you make a complete ass of yourself yet again. You gross ignorance is simply astonishing. Are you sure you know how to wipe your own ass?

[/QUOTE]


you are confused 1941 was the year that Japan bombed Pearl Harbor-----I understand your problem----you were suckled on Nazi shit
and actually believe that the rest of the world is a depraved and disgusting as the brothel in which you were spawned