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You're denying the existence of Jeffersonian Democracy, as a principle? As a guiding principle for Jefferson, one of our founders, and all who have then and since agreed with him?
lol
No. I'm saying that our form of government is a republic. It is termed as such in the Constitution, and that's how it will remain. Elections are something akin to a representative democracy. The two work hand in hand to temper one another.
That is so much nonsense. You talk as though the Constitution came out of nowhere. The Constitution was ratified by majority votes.
Slavery could be brought back by amending the Constitution. All it would take would be large enough majorities to make the amendments. The minority in that case would be powerless to say otherwise.
It was by majority, not minority, action that slavery was abolished in the first place.
The majority establishes the rights of the minorities.
All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will, to be rightful, must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal laws must protect, and to violate which would be oppression.
-Thomas Jefferson in his first inaugural address, March 4, 1801
And next you'll want to tell me that Jefferson above is NOT the Jefferson referred to in the very widely used term, and concept:
"Jeffersonian Democracy"
or is it??
lol checkmate.
Sad how so many Conservatives make up definitions for what a Republic is.
A Republic is a nation without a monarchy.
That's all folks.
In a Republic, each individual has rights.
In a democracy, 51% beats 49% and the minority has only those privileges granted by the majority.
In a Republic, the Individual is sovereign. In a democracy, only the group has sovereignty.
In a Republic, the group has only advisory capacities and the sovereign individual is free to reject the majority group-think.
Ergo, Republicans believe in individuality. dimocraps are, well... They're dimocraps
In a Republic, each individual has rights.
In a democracy, 51% beats 49% and the minority has only those privileges granted by the majority.
In a Republic, the Individual is sovereign. In a democracy, only the group has sovereignty.
In a Republic, the group has only advisory capacities and the sovereign individual is free to reject the majority group-think.
Ergo, Republicans believe in individuality. dimocraps are, well... They're dimocraps
Every minority right in this country that is legally protected is so because majority made it so.
The slaves did not free themselves. It took majority rule to declare them free under the law.
You're denying the existence of Jeffersonian Democracy, as a principle? As a guiding principle for Jefferson, one of our founders, and all who have then and since agreed with him?
lol
No. I'm saying that our form of government is a republic. It is termed as such in the Constitution, and that's how it will remain. Elections are something akin to a representative democracy. The two work hand in hand to temper one another.
You're denying the existence of Jeffersonian Democracy, as a principle? As a guiding principle for Jefferson, one of our founders, and all who have then and since agreed with him?
lol
No. I'm saying that our form of government is a republic. It is termed as such in the Constitution, and that's how it will remain. Elections are something akin to a representative democracy. The two work hand in hand to temper one another.
Since you're willing to cite wikipedia, so am I:
A democratic republic is a country that is both a republic and a democracy.
Democratic republic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Feel free to prove that definition invalid.
In a Republic, each individual has rights.
In a democracy, 51% beats 49% and the minority has only those privileges granted by the majority.
In a Republic, the Individual is sovereign. In a democracy, only the group has sovereignty.
In a Republic, the group has only advisory capacities and the sovereign individual is free to reject the majority group-think.
Ergo, Republicans believe in individuality. dimocraps are, well... They're dimocraps
Every minority right in this country that is legally protected is so because majority made it so.
The slaves did not free themselves. It took majority rule to declare them free under the law.
I apologize for picking on you.
Clearly, you are handicapped
No. I'm saying that our form of government is a republic. It is termed as such in the Constitution, and that's how it will remain. Elections are something akin to a representative democracy. The two work hand in hand to temper one another.
Since you're willing to cite wikipedia, so am I:
A democratic republic is a country that is both a republic and a democracy.
Democratic republic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Feel free to prove that definition invalid.
Sure.
Article 4 Section 4 of the US Constitution
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
Since you're willing to cite wikipedia, so am I:
A democratic republic is a country that is both a republic and a democracy.
Democratic republic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Feel free to prove that definition invalid.
Sure.
Article 4 Section 4 of the US Constitution
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
Your post proves nothing because you cannot prove that democracy and republic are mutually exclusive.
As long as it remains unrefuted that a nation can exist as both a democracy and a republic,
you have lost this argument.
Sure.
Article 4 Section 4 of the US Constitution
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
Your post proves nothing because you cannot prove that democracy and republic are mutually exclusive.
As long as it remains unrefuted that a nation can exist as both a democracy and a republic,
you have lost this argument.
I didn't lose anything, Carbine. The founders acknowledged the existence of a Republic when they drafted the Constitution.
More acknowledgements of this being a Republic:
The future of this republic is in the hands of the American voter
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
"That book [Bible], sir, is the rock on which our republic rests.
-Andrew Jackson
A democracy is as really a republic as on oak a tree, or a temple a building
-John Adams
Our constitution works. Our great republic is a government of laws, not of men.
-Gerald R. Ford
The hopes of the Republic cannot forever tolerate either undeserved poverty or self-serving wealth.
-Franklin D. Roosevelt
Your post proves nothing because you cannot prove that democracy and republic are mutually exclusive.
As long as it remains unrefuted that a nation can exist as both a democracy and a republic,
you have lost this argument.
I didn't lose anything, Carbine. The founders acknowledged the existence of a Republic when they drafted the Constitution.
More acknowledgements of this being a Republic:
The future of this republic is in the hands of the American voter
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
"That book [Bible], sir, is the rock on which our republic rests.
-Andrew Jackson
A democracy is as really a republic as on oak a tree, or a temple a building
-John Adams
Our constitution works. Our great republic is a government of laws, not of men.
-Gerald R. Ford
The hopes of the Republic cannot forever tolerate either undeserved poverty or self-serving wealth.
-Franklin D. Roosevelt
All these quotes you're posting to supposedly prove your point are useless because they are dependent on the absolutely false premise that a republic cannot be a democracy.
That is simply wrong.
