Sonny Clark
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I totally disagree, 110%. In my opinion, yes, we are an oppressed people. Yes, our government is very corrupt, self-serving, egotistical, power hungry, and anti-America. We have a government bought and paid for. Once elected to office, they exert their will, and not the will of the people. If that were not true, we would be in the sad shameful situation and condition that we're presently in.You could be absolutely correct. But, when you back an animal into a corner, they'll usually try to fight their way out. If and when we reach the proverbial "rock bottom", my guess is that somehow, some way, many will try to climb up and out of oppression, slavery, excessive taxation, and attack a corrupt and self-serving government. First, many have to feel the same pain, suffer the same hunger and misery, then we might see a light come on and people wake up. At this point, it's anyone's guess, and none of us has a crystal ball.Really? What a thought. I don't suppose that the socioeconomic survival of this once great nation would bring a few together to solve some of our problems. Nah, never happen, right? So, we just stand-by and together watch the collapse take place? What an interesting thought. I'll have to ponder that for a bit.Yes, we would still have them. Taxes doesn't stop alcoholics, drug addicts, criminals, terrorists, poverty, nor homelessness. Our laws, policies, and actions by those we entrust with our security and economic well-being, can stop those things. But, greed, power, self-service, and egos prevent all of the above from being corrected. Also, time is a big factor. None of it can be corrected over-night. It takes determination, will, resources, and everyone being on the same page of the playbook for it to happen.
The only way for everyone to be on the same page of the playbook is to kill every human being until you are down to one.
No. It wouldn't. It never has in the past and I see no reason to think it will happen in the future.
Which is why your idea of being on the same page is pointless. You have 300 million people, each with their own ideas on what that page is and probably almost as many playbooks. How do you go about getting a far left socialist to get on the same page with a free market libertarian? How do you get them to agree on what needs to be done to resolve the problem? You want to cut foreign aid, I see that as a monumental mistake. You think prisons are too cushy, I think they are too brutal. Which page are we going to be on - yours or mine?
Any solution which does not take into account we are human beings, with all of the baggage that entails, is doomed to failure.
I agree. If you look at history you will see multiple cases of the populace rising up against its government. I think if you examine that you will see the populace then creates yet another government, made up of the same type of people if not the same people, and continues to do what was being done before. Often even worse.
I doubt we will see such a thing in our society since our taxation is not excessive, nor is there oppression or slavery and the degree of actual corruption in government is quite small. IMO, the real problem lies in how we choose our leaders. There is a saying that anyone who desires power is precisely the type of person who should not be given power. In our system, someone who becomes a leader has to jump through an incredible number of hoops. So only those who really want power are willing to go through what it takes to achieve it. So those who do become our leaders spend their time in maintaining their position, because that is the type of person we choose. Thus, rather than coming together with other leaders to arrive at solutions, they concentrate on pleasing the electorate.
If we actually want to have solutions, then we need people who will consider their job to be finding solutions. Not just getting elected. So long as we select leaders via a popularity contest, nothing will change.