deltex1
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Reagan warned about Obabble long before that....when he did those chimp movies.
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So where did he "drop a cluster bomb on the middle class?"
Your example doesn't support your case.
There are so many cluster bombs Reagan dropped that haven't detonated yet they will continue to maim the American worker for generations.
The true irony of Ronald Reagan; he created a mythical 'welfare queen' used to deconstruct the middle class and trash the poor. Yet Ronald Reagan is the ultimate welfare queen personified.
As the liberal era that began with the New Deal came to an end with the splintering of the Democratic Party brought about by assassination of Presidents and future Presidents, the Vietnam War fiasco and conservative money creating 'think tanks', JFK and LBJ, the last two Presidents of that era faced the awful specter how to deal with revenue SURPLUSES. Public debt was not even part of our lexicon...
Enter Reagan, the welfare queen. Put everything on the Beijing credit card and dump the bill on our children, grandchildren and their children and grandchildren.
Reagan switched the federal government from what he critically called, a tax and spend policy, to a borrow and spend policy, where the government continued its heavy spending, but used borrowed money instead of tax revenue to pay the bills. The results were catastrophic. Although it had taken the United States more than 200 years to accumulate the first $1 trillion of national debt, it took only five years under Reagan to add the second one trillion dollars to the debt.
"The debt explosion has resulted not from big spending by the Democrats, but instead the Republican Party's embrace, about three decades ago, of the insidious doctrine that deficits don't matter if they result from tax cuts."
David Stockman - Director of the Office of Management and Budget for U.S. President Ronald Reagan.
"Grover Norquist has no plan to pay this debt down. His plan says you continue to add to the debt..."
Senator Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.)
Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. Reagan was an ideological inflection point, ending a 50-year liberal ascendancy and beginning a 30-year conservative ascendancy.
Charles Krauthammer
As Forrest Gump once declared, "Stupid is as stupid does"
Ronald Reagan, "The Great Communicator" inherited a notably high 7.5% nation wide unemployment rate coupled with an economy that declined in Real GDP growth by -0.3% and 13.5% inflation rate from the Carter administration. Under Carter, the prime lending rate hit 21.5% in December 1980, the highest rate in U.S. history under any President. In 1983, Ronald Reagan's economic policies provided substantial economic breakthrough and the 1st quarter GDP grew an astonishing 5.1%. The U.S. economy grew at a 4.5% pace in 1983 and a remarkable 7.2% in 1984. From 1948-2009, the U.S. economy has grown an average of 3.28% per fiscal year. During Reagan's eight tenure as President, Real GDP growth averaged 3.4% per fiscal year.
*Jimmy Carter's Misery Index scores = 16.27.
* George W. Bush's Misery Index for his term was 7.96, well below half that of Carter.
Isn't it interesting, the same year Barack Obama was born (1961), Ronald Reagan made this statement:
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.
Reagan warned us of the coming evil to this nation a few months before Obama was born.
Reagan warned South Africa about Nelson Mandela.
Must not be a reliable source...
Hmmm . . . South Africa is going to crap. It won't be long until it turns into another Zimbabwe.
Isn't it interesting, the same year Barack Obama was born (1961), Ronald Reagan made this statement:
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.
Reagan warned us of the coming evil to this nation a few months before Obama was born.
Reagan is the single most person responsible for the mess we're in. Reagan dropped a cluster bomb on the middle class.
"Ronald Reagan must be the nicest president who ever destroyed a union, tried to cut school lunch milk rations from six to four ounces, and compelled families in need of public help to first dispose of household goods in excess of $1,000...1f there is an authoritarian regime in the American future, Ronald Reagan is tailored to the image of a friendly fascist." - Robert Lekachman
So where did he "drop a cluster bomb on the middle class?"
Your example doesn't support your case.
Isn't it interesting, the same year Barack Obama was born (1961), Ronald Reagan made this statement:
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.
Reagan warned us of the coming evil to this nation a few months before Obama was born.
Reagan is the single most person responsible for the mess we're in. Reagan dropped a cluster bomb on the middle class.
"Ronald Reagan must be the nicest president who ever destroyed a union, tried to cut school lunch milk rations from six to four ounces, and compelled families in need of public help to first dispose of household goods in excess of $1,000...1f there is an authoritarian regime in the American future, Ronald Reagan is tailored to the image of a friendly fascist." - Robert Lekachman
Reagan warned about Obabble long before that....when he did those chimp movies.
Which tea party chapter are you in?
Isn't it interesting, the same year Barack Obama was born (1961), Ronald Reagan made this statement:
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.
Reagan warned us of the coming evil to this nation a few months before Obama was born.
Reagan warned about Obabble long before that....when he did those chimp movies.
Which tea party chapter are you in?
Reagan told more truths in that short clip than Obama has in 10 years.
Yeah...when he said he "didn't recall".
Isn't it interesting, the same year Barack Obama was born (1961), Ronald Reagan made this statement:
“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”
Reagan warned us of the coming evil to this nation a few months before Obama was born.
Reagan is the single most person responsible for the mess we're in. Reagan dropped a cluster bomb on the middle class.
"Ronald Reagan must be the nicest president who ever destroyed a union, tried to cut school lunch milk rations from six to four ounces, and compelled families in need of public help to first dispose of household goods in excess of $1,000...1f there is an authoritarian regime in the American future, Ronald Reagan is tailored to the image of a friendly fascist." - Robert Lekachman
so if what reagan did was so wrong why didn't 8 years of clinton and now 2 terms of obama ever try to correct it?
Reagan warned about Obabble long before that....when he did those chimp movies.
Which tea party chapter are you in?
Reagan is the single most person responsible for the mess we're in. Reagan dropped a cluster bomb on the middle class.
"Ronald Reagan must be the nicest president who ever destroyed a union, tried to cut school lunch milk rations from six to four ounces, and compelled families in need of public help to first dispose of household goods in excess of $1,000...1f there is an authoritarian regime in the American future, Ronald Reagan is tailored to the image of a friendly fascist." - Robert Lekachman
so if what reagan did was so wrong why didn't 8 years of clinton and now 2 terms of obama ever try to correct it?
They have tried to correct it. The day the Bush administration took over from President Bill Clinton in 2001, America enjoyed a $236 billion budget surplus -- with a projected 10-year surplus of $5.6 trillion. When the Bush administration left office, it handed President Obama a $1.3 trillion deficit -- and projected shortfalls of $8 trillion for the next decade.
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Reagan is the single most person responsible for the mess we're in. Reagan dropped a cluster bomb on the middle class.
"Ronald Reagan must be the nicest president who ever destroyed a union, tried to cut school lunch milk rations from six to four ounces, and compelled families in need of public help to first dispose of household goods in excess of $1,000...1f there is an authoritarian regime in the American future, Ronald Reagan is tailored to the image of a friendly fascist." - Robert Lekachman
so if what reagan did was so wrong why didn't 8 years of clinton and now 2 terms of obama ever try to correct it?
They have tried to correct it. The day the Bush administration took over from President Bill Clinton in 2001, America enjoyed a $236 billion budget surplus -- with a projected 10-year surplus of $5.6 trillion. When the Bush administration left office, it handed President Obama a $1.3 trillion deficit -- and projected shortfalls of $8 trillion for the next decade.
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so if what reagan did was so wrong why didn't 8 years of clinton and now 2 terms of obama ever try to correct it?
They have tried to correct it. The day the Bush administration took over from President Bill Clinton in 2001, America enjoyed a $236 billion budget surplus -- with a projected 10-year surplus of $5.6 trillion. When the Bush administration left office, it handed President Obama a $1.3 trillion deficit -- and projected shortfalls of $8 trillion for the next decade.
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So what you are saying is they failed. Now its time to sto pthe bullshit lip service. Tell us exactly what it is Reagan did that put us in this horrible place we're in today and tell us what the democrats have done to correct it. no lib has ever been able to answer that question. ever. all you ever do is flap your gums and make a bunch of false claims you can not back up.
They have tried to correct it. The day the Bush administration took over from President Bill Clinton in 2001, America enjoyed a $236 billion budget surplus -- with a projected 10-year surplus of $5.6 trillion. When the Bush administration left office, it handed President Obama a $1.3 trillion deficit -- and projected shortfalls of $8 trillion for the next decade.
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So what you are saying is they failed. Now its time to sto pthe bullshit lip service. Tell us exactly what it is Reagan did that put us in this horrible place we're in today and tell us what the democrats have done to correct it. no lib has ever been able to answer that question. ever. all you ever do is flap your gums and make a bunch of false claims you can not back up.
I already did once on this thread. I will say it again...DEBT:
Democrats have always PAID for programs and legislation they pass. Ever hear of PAYGO?
The true irony of Ronald Reagan; he created a mythical 'welfare queen' used to deconstruct the middle class and trash the poor. Yet Ronald Reagan is the ultimate welfare queen personified.
As the liberal era that began with the New Deal came to an end with the splintering of the Democratic Party brought about by assassination of Presidents and future Presidents, the Vietnam War fiasco and conservative money creating 'think tanks', JFK and LBJ, the last two Presidents of that era faced the awful specter how to deal with revenue SURPLUSES. Public debt was not even part of our lexicon...
Enter Reagan, the welfare queen. Put everything on the Beijing credit card and dump the bill on our children, grandchildren and their children and grandchildren.
Reagan switched the federal government from what he critically called, a tax and spend policy, to a borrow and spend policy, where the government continued its heavy spending, but used borrowed money instead of tax revenue to pay the bills. The results were catastrophic. Although it had taken the United States more than 200 years to accumulate the first $1 trillion of national debt, it took only five years under Reagan to add the second one trillion dollars to the debt.
"The debt explosion has resulted not from big spending by the Democrats, but instead the Republican Party's embrace, about three decades ago, of the insidious doctrine that deficits don't matter if they result from tax cuts."
David Stockman - Director of the Office of Management and Budget for U.S. President Ronald Reagan.
"Grover Norquist has no plan to pay this debt down. His plan says you continue to add to the debt..."
Senator Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.)
Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. Reagan was an ideological inflection point, ending a 50-year liberal ascendancy and beginning a 30-year conservative ascendancy.
Charles Krauthammer
Reagan told more truths in that short clip than Obama has in 10 years.
Yeah...when he said he "didn't recall".