Recording of trump pressuring Wayne County repubs not to certify 2020 election surfaces.

[Marener]

Not if some of those votes were fraudulent.

Which we don't know for sure if they were or weren't.

So you’re basically saying that votes don’t matter. Just count the ones you want to get the result you want.

 

[Marener]

Not if some of those votes were fraudulent.

Which we don't know for sure if they were or weren't.

Any vote could be fraudulent so just count whatever ones you want and say the rest are tainted.

That’s how MAGA runs elections.

 

[Chillicothe]

there was more than likely cheating going on
.....I have a huge suspicion that cheating happened,

not all of which have been answered to everyone's satisfaction, even to this day.

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Poster Marty, you are trying too hard.
Wringing one's hands over cheating is now naive'.....if not manipulative.
There is ALWAYS some cheating in every big national election.
The real question is....'enough to change any result'?

We have about 155 million voters spread across at least 9 time zones, and pver 100,000 voting centers, run by more than a million Americans, the vast vast majority are part-timers. ..... and all of that so the voting public can try to cram their opinion on candidates into a very short window of time...7AM? to 7PM?

Of course, some bad actors are gonna try to play games (witness the knuckleheads down in Florida's 'The Villages'). But were any of the fraudsters determinative? Did they change the results?

After numerous audits, hand-counts, investigations (including by Republican legislatures)......nobody found enough to warrant changing anything.

BTW, your concerns over the Detroit count, well, the Michigan legislature, led by Republicans! ---conducted an investigation, they found none, or not enough to swing any election:

"Michigan Republicans Debunk Voter Fraud Claims in Unsparing Report​

The report, produced by a G.O.P.-led committee in the State Senate, exposes false claims made about the 2020 election by Trump allies in Michigan and other states."

Michigan Republicans Debunk Voter Fraud Claims in Unsparing Report (Published 2021)

The report, produced by a G.O.P.-led committee in the State Senate, exposes false claims made about the 2020 election by Trump allies in Michigan and other states.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Clipper]

Because he still thought there was cheating, as I still think there was cheating.

Just because Dotard is touched in the head, doesn't excuse his attempts to overturn the election.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

That's one hell of an opinion.

We both know the courts will convict.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Not if some of those votes were fraudulent.

Which we don't know for sure if they were or weren't.

They can only be fraudulent if something wrong was done.

You have no evidence of anything being wrong. Comer and Jordan have no evidence on a Biden crime family.

You shitasses keep making things up without any evidence, and say take it seriously.

When you can provide evidence, then, yes, it can be taken seriously.

You haven't. You won't. You will keep losing across the board because made up allegations are not evidence.

 

[martybegan]

So you’re basically saying that votes don’t matter. Just count the ones you want to get the result you want.

When Dems run the process, 100% chance they don't.

Due to the Dems.

 

[martybegan]

Any vote could be fraudulent so just count whatever ones you want and say the rest are tainted.

That’s how MAGA runs elections.

Now you are just bloviating.

 

[martybegan]

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Poster Marty, you are trying too hard.
Wringing one's hands over cheating is now naive'.....if not manipulative.
There is ALWAYS some cheating in every big national election.
The real question is....'enough to change any result'?

We have about 155 million voters spread across at least 9 time zones, and pver 100,000 voting centers, run by more than a million Americans, the vast vast majority are part-timers. ..... and all of that so the voting public can try to cram their opinion on candidates into a very short window of time...7AM? to 7PM?

Of course, some bad actors are gonna try to play games (witness the knuckleheads down in Florida's 'The Villages'). But were any of the fraudsters determinative? Did they change the results?

After numerous audits, hand-counts, investigations (including by Republican legislatures)......nobody found enough to warrant changing anything.

BTW, your concerns over the Detroit count, well, the Michigan legislature, led by Republicans! ---conducted an investigation, they found none, or not enough to swing any election:

"Michigan Republicans Debunk Voter Fraud Claims in Unsparing Report​

The report, produced by a G.O.P.-led committee in the State Senate, exposes false claims made about the 2020 election by Trump allies in Michigan and other states."

Michigan Republicans Debunk Voter Fraud Claims in Unsparing Report (Published 2021)

The report, produced by a G.O.P.-led committee in the State Senate, exposes false claims made about the 2020 election by Trump allies in Michigan and other states.

www.nytimes.com

First it was "no cheating", then "minimal cheating" now "not enough to change the result"

Talk about goalpost moving. I think it's because you know if they try the shit they did in 2020 in 2024 people will be watching this time.

 

[martybegan]

Just because Dotard is touched in the head, doesn't excuse his attempts to overturn the election.

Just because you are a fucking tard gasbag doesn't make your opinion valid.

 

[martybegan]

We both know the courts will convict.

Both are biased, and both will be appealed, and even then it's because the system itself is fucking gone.

 

[martybegan]

They can only be fraudulent if something wrong was done.

You have no evidence of anything being wrong. Comer and Jordan have no evidence on a Biden crime family.

You shitasses keep making things up without any evidence, and say take it seriously.

When you can provide evidence, then, yes, it can be taken seriously.

You haven't. You won't. You will keep losing across the board because made up allegations are not evidence.

And you love being fucked in the ass by politicians as long as they have the "right politics"

Retard.

 

[DBA]

They can only be fraudulent if something wrong was done.

You have no evidence of anything being wrong. Comer and Jordan have no evidence on a Biden crime family.

You shitasses keep making things up without any evidence, and say take it seriously.

When you can provide evidence, then, yes, it can be taken seriously.

You haven't. You won't. You will keep losing across the board because made up allegations are not evidence.

There is evidence, you just don’t like it.

Having said that, since when is evidence needed for an impeachment inquiry? Heck, Democrats went so far as impeaching Trump twice without evidence.

 

[Marener]

When Dems run the process, 100% chance they don't.

Due to the Dems.

More feelings, not facts.

The fact is that Trump wanted to count some votes and not others so he could win.

You’re defending corrupting the electoral system like a third world failed state.

 

[martybegan]

More feelings, not facts.

The fact is that Trump wanted to count some votes and not others so he could win.

You’re defending corrupting the electoral system like a third world failed state.

Opinions, not facts.

The fact is Trump wanted to make sure he got all his valid votes, and any non valid votes were not counted. There is no evidence he wanted to get rid of valid Biden votes.

 

[Marener]

Opinions, not facts.

The fact is Trump wanted to make sure he got all his valid votes, and any non valid votes were not counted. There is no evidence he wanted to get rid of valid Biden votes.

The fuck he didn’t. He wanted to get rid of every vote when he asked state legislatures to appoint new electors for him. That’s a fact. Not an opinion.

“Just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me” is him not giving a fuck about valid or invalid votes. It’s just wanting to win by any means possible.

You can’t possibly be this stupid.

 

[martybegan]

The fuck he didn’t. He wanted to get rid of every vote when he asked state legislatures to appoint new electors for him. That’s a fact. Not an opinion.

“Just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me” is him not giving a fuck about valid or invalid votes. It’s just wanting to win by any means possible.

You can’t possibly be this stupid.

That's your opinion. You are trying to assume your supposed motive as fact.

More hubris on the part of the idiot left.

 

[Marener]

That's your opinion. You are trying to assume your supposed motive as fact.

More hubris on the part of the idiot left.

Its a fact he asked state legislatures to appoint their own electors.

That would eliminate every vote from the state.

 

[martybegan]

Its a fact he asked state legislatures to appoint their own electors.

That would eliminate every vote from the state.

Because he thought there was fraud. It's based on him thinking he was cheated out of winning said States.

 

[Marener]

Because he thought there was fraud. It's based on him thinking he was cheated out of winning said States.

Every vote in the state was fraudulent? Trump thinks every vote was fraudulent?