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Renewables have won the race against coal

What a joke!
How many barrels of oil did it take to manufacture the panels? How many panels would it take to generate enough electricity to power ONE 18 wheeler full of carrots from the producer to the grocery store. Oh that's right. It couldn't happen b/c the size/number of batteries it would take WOULD FILL THE FUCKING TRAILER!!!!!!! with NO ROOM left for the fucking carrots!
Wise up!
Nice straw man argument.
Nobody says it's panic time yet. Chill, Huckleberry....nobody's weezin off your tricky gig.:113:
Have you watched an Inconvenient Truth. they said it was panic time in 2004.
 
Was the race to see who could make less useable energy with the most tax payer subsidies? Cause yeah renewables kick ass there.
Nuclear has been subsidized since day one and has never turned a true profit - costs in the deep red, in fact.. Solar and wind, on the other hand, have been suppressed for 40 years or more, so your false comparison means nothing.
Not even close. Nuke plants got tax deductions for sure but make enough electricity to be profitable. Solar and wind never become profitable at any point of their life cycle. And the fact you think wind and solar have been suppressed tells me you dont care about reality. How have they been oppressed?
 
What a joke!
How many barrels of oil did it take to manufacture the panels? How many panels would it take to generate enough electricity to power ONE 18 wheeler full of carrots from the producer to the grocery store. Oh that's right. It couldn't happen b/c the size/number of batteries it would take WOULD FILL THE FUCKING TRAILER!!!!!!! with NO ROOM left for the fucking carrots!
Wise up!
Nice straw man argument.
Nobody says it's panic time yet. Chill, Huckleberry....nobody's weezin off your tricky gig.:113:
Have you watched an Inconvenient Truth. they said it was panic time in 2004.
Al Jazeera Gore's flick was more of a wake-up call.
I've never been for a carbon tax either, but I am for some federal ( mostly state) subsidies for renewables and high speed rail systems.
 
Not even close. Nuke plants got tax deductions for sure but make enough electricity to be profitable. Solar and wind never become profitable at any point of their life cycle. And the fact you think wind and solar have been suppressed tells me you dont care about reality. How have they been oppressed?
The costs of construction and operation of a nuclear power plant grid is never recovered during it's life cycle in terms of actual profitability. And there was a solar energy revolution brewing in the 70's which was quickly crushed , starting when Reagan removed Carter's solar panels from the White House roof in 1981. Around the time his sneaky VP cut a deal with the Saudis I would say.
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Jimmy Carter installed 32 solar panels on the White House roof when he was president in the late 1970s. When Ronald Reagan took office in 1981, one of his first actions as president was to have the panels, which his chief-of-staff allegedly said Reagan felt were “just a joke,” removed.Aug 15, 2013
 
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Not even close. Nuke plants got tax deductions for sure but make enough electricity to be profitable. Solar and wind never become profitable at any point of their life cycle. And the fact you think wind and solar have been suppressed tells me you dont care about reality. How have they been oppressed?
The costs of construction and operation of a nuclear power plant grid is never recovered during it's life cycle in terms of actual profitability. And there was a solar energy revolution brewing in the 70's which was quickly crushed , starting when Reagan removed Carter's solar panels from the White House roof in 1981. Around the time his sneaky VP cut a deal with the Saudis I would say.
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Jimmy Carter installed 32 solar panels on the White House roof when he was president in the late 1970s. When Ronald Reagan took office in 1981, one of his first actions as president was to have the panels, which his chief-of-staff allegedly said Reagan felt were “just a joke,” removed.Aug 15, 2013
Solar panels were a joke in the 70’s they aren’t all that great still. Nuclear plants are profitable due to length of service. Solar panels have such a sharp drop in performance in a short time you can never come close to breaking even.
 
What a joke!
How many barrels of oil did it take to manufacture the panels? How many panels would it take to generate enough electricity to power ONE 18 wheeler full of carrots from the producer to the grocery store. Oh that's right. It couldn't happen b/c the size/number of batteries it would take WOULD FILL THE FUCKING TRAILER!!!!!!! with NO ROOM left for the fucking carrots!
Wise up!
Nice straw man argument.
Nobody says it's panic time yet. Chill, Huckleberry....nobody's weezin off your tricky gig.:113:
Have you watched an Inconvenient Truth. they said it was panic time in 2004.
Al Jazeera Gore's flick was more of a wake-up call.
I've never been for a carbon tax either, but I am for some federal ( mostly state) subsidies for renewables and high speed rail systems.
you keep posting how they are making it happen, keep the government out of it.....and when the private sector makes it cheap and affordable, voila
 
Solar panels were a joke in the 70’s they aren’t all that great still. Nuclear plants are profitable due to length of service. Solar panels have such a sharp drop in performance in a short time you can never come close to breaking even.
I'll remember that next time I drive past the Navy base.
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Those are good for two to four years providing 90% of their power capacity. Within 10 years they only put out 10% of their rated capacity. Just going out on a limb here but standing on them or moving them probably shortens that life span.

I'm not saying they don't have a useful purpose. That purpose is nowhere near providing a nations electric grid needs.
 
Not even close. Nuke plants got tax deductions for sure but make enough electricity to be profitable. Solar and wind never become profitable at any point of their life cycle. And the fact you think wind and solar have been suppressed tells me you dont care about reality. How have they been oppressed?
The costs of construction and operation of a nuclear power plant grid is never recovered during it's life cycle in terms of actual profitability. And there was a solar energy revolution brewing in the 70's which was quickly crushed , starting when Reagan removed Carter's solar panels from the White House roof in 1981. Around the time his sneaky VP cut a deal with the Saudis I would say.
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Jimmy Carter installed 32 solar panels on the White House roof when he was president in the late 1970s. When Ronald Reagan took office in 1981, one of his first actions as president was to have the panels, which his chief-of-staff allegedly said Reagan felt were “just a joke,” removed.Aug 15, 2013
Yet, morons like you endorse high speed rail which doesn't even cover it's operating costs, and its capital costs are astronomical.
 
Not even close. Nuke plants got tax deductions for sure but make enough electricity to be profitable. Solar and wind never become profitable at any point of their life cycle. And the fact you think wind and solar have been suppressed tells me you dont care about reality. How have they been oppressed?
The costs of construction and operation of a nuclear power plant grid is never recovered during it's life cycle in terms of actual profitability. And there was a solar energy revolution brewing in the 70's which was quickly crushed , starting when Reagan removed Carter's solar panels from the White House roof in 1981. Around the time his sneaky VP cut a deal with the Saudis I would say.
enhanced-14152-1421983644-9.jpg

Jimmy Carter installed 32 solar panels on the White House roof when he was president in the late 1970s. When Ronald Reagan took office in 1981, one of his first actions as president was to have the panels, which his chief-of-staff allegedly said Reagan felt were “just a joke,” removed.Aug 15, 2013

So your idea of a "revolution of solar energy" was Carters few solar panels on the white house?

Really? Do you know anything about the energy crisis of the 1970s? It wasn't a revolution, it was people freezing in schools. My parents were both public school teachers, and talked about students and faculty alike shivering in the cold, inside schools during the winter.

That's your idea of a revolution? You can keep it, or better yet, go to your green energy revolution in Venezuela, with the rest of your socialist BS crap.
 
Not even close. Nuke plants got tax deductions for sure but make enough electricity to be profitable. Solar and wind never become profitable at any point of their life cycle. And the fact you think wind and solar have been suppressed tells me you dont care about reality. How have they been oppressed?
The costs of construction and operation of a nuclear power plant grid is never recovered during it's life cycle in terms of actual profitability. And there was a solar energy revolution brewing in the 70's which was quickly crushed , starting when Reagan removed Carter's solar panels from the White House roof in 1981. Around the time his sneaky VP cut a deal with the Saudis I would say.
enhanced-14152-1421983644-9.jpg

Jimmy Carter installed 32 solar panels on the White House roof when he was president in the late 1970s. When Ronald Reagan took office in 1981, one of his first actions as president was to have the panels, which his chief-of-staff allegedly said Reagan felt were “just a joke,” removed.Aug 15, 2013
Yet, morons like you endorse high speed rail which doesn't even cover it's operating costs, and its capital costs are astronomical.
But it's FWEEE!
 
Not even close. Nuke plants got tax deductions for sure but make enough electricity to be profitable. Solar and wind never become profitable at any point of their life cycle. And the fact you think wind and solar have been suppressed tells me you dont care about reality. How have they been oppressed?
The costs of construction and operation of a nuclear power plant grid is never recovered during it's life cycle in terms of actual profitability. And there was a solar energy revolution brewing in the 70's which was quickly crushed , starting when Reagan removed Carter's solar panels from the White House roof in 1981. Around the time his sneaky VP cut a deal with the Saudis I would say.
enhanced-14152-1421983644-9.jpg

Jimmy Carter installed 32 solar panels on the White House roof when he was president in the late 1970s. When Ronald Reagan took office in 1981, one of his first actions as president was to have the panels, which his chief-of-staff allegedly said Reagan felt were “just a joke,” removed.Aug 15, 2013

So your idea of a "revolution of solar energy" was Carters few solar panels on the white house?

Really? Do you know anything about the energy crisis of the 1970s? It wasn't a revolution, it was people freezing in schools. My parents were both public school teachers, and talked about students and faculty alike shivering in the cold, inside schools during the winter.

That's your idea of a revolution? You can keep it, or better yet, go to your green energy revolution in Venezuela, with the rest of your socialist BS crap.
Don't all socialist revolutions end up like that? Freezing and starving is only the beginning of the good times.
 
Can we all at least agree that if this were true, it would be a good thing?
But its not true...and it never will be true.....it is a mental disorder to lie to your self and believe it....plus it gets us no where....
 
So your idea of a "revolution of solar energy" was Carters few solar panels on the white house?

Really? Do you know anything about the energy crisis of the 1970s? It wasn't a revolution, it was people freezing in schools. My parents were both public school teachers, and talked about students and faculty alike shivering in the cold, inside schools during the winter.

That's your idea of a revolution? You can keep it, or better yet, go to your green energy revolution in Venezuela, with the rest of your socialist BS crap.
Not falling for your silly straw man argument and taking my words out of context.
 
So your idea of a "revolution of solar energy" was Carters few solar panels on the white house?

Really? Do you know anything about the energy crisis of the 1970s? It wasn't a revolution, it was people freezing in schools. My parents were both public school teachers, and talked about students and faculty alike shivering in the cold, inside schools during the winter.

That's your idea of a revolution? You can keep it, or better yet, go to your green energy revolution in Venezuela, with the rest of your socialist BS crap.
Not falling for your silly straw man argument and taking my words out of context.

I didn't do diddly jack. You pointed to the 1970s. I pointed to the facts of the 1970s. The only straw man here, is your entire thread, every post you've made, and every claim to making a point.

I've noticed that with every single response by everyone on this thread to you, your only response is deflection. You have not responded or contradicted one single argument here, by ANYONE, not just me.

You are not fooling anyone here, when you can't answer anyone's points.
 
So your idea of a "revolution of solar energy" was Carters few solar panels on the white house?

Really? Do you know anything about the energy crisis of the 1970s? It wasn't a revolution, it was people freezing in schools. My parents were both public school teachers, and talked about students and faculty alike shivering in the cold, inside schools during the winter.

That's your idea of a revolution? You can keep it, or better yet, go to your green energy revolution in Venezuela, with the rest of your socialist BS crap.
Not falling for your silly straw man argument and taking my words out of context.

I didn't do diddly jack. You pointed to the 1970s. I pointed to the facts of the 1970s. The only straw man here, is your entire thread, every post you've made, and every claim to making a point.

I've noticed that with every single response by everyone on this thread to you, your only response is deflection. You have not responded or contradicted one single argument here, by ANYONE, not just me.

You are not fooling anyone here, when you can't answer anyone's points.
I've been ignoring the same talking points for years.
 
So your idea of a "revolution of solar energy" was Carters few solar panels on the white house?

Really? Do you know anything about the energy crisis of the 1970s? It wasn't a revolution, it was people freezing in schools. My parents were both public school teachers, and talked about students and faculty alike shivering in the cold, inside schools during the winter.

That's your idea of a revolution? You can keep it, or better yet, go to your green energy revolution in Venezuela, with the rest of your socialist BS crap.
Not falling for your silly straw man argument and taking my words out of context.

I didn't do diddly jack. You pointed to the 1970s. I pointed to the facts of the 1970s. The only straw man here, is your entire thread, every post you've made, and every claim to making a point.

I've noticed that with every single response by everyone on this thread to you, your only response is deflection. You have not responded or contradicted one single argument here, by ANYONE, not just me.

You are not fooling anyone here, when you can't answer anyone's points.
I've been ignoring the same talking points for years.

Which is why you have remained ignorant for years. This is why you keep making a fool of yourself for years.
 

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