Republican Senators send a letter to Iran. Wow. Damn!

[rhodescholar]

Profane AND stupid........Are we talking about the same CIA that assured us that Iraq was ladened with WMDs????

Clueless and an idiot - are you talking about the same CIA whose 2007 report suggesting iran had ceased building nuclear weapons was loudly embraced by idiots on the left like you?

 

[cnm]

I was against the iraq invasion, but just to see if you have any shred of credibility, would you have accepted an attack on iran instead, a country that was/is the cause of so much conflict in the mideast?

Of course not, don't be ridiculous. That would still be waging aggressive war, the overarching war crime of them all, as much as the invasion of Iraq was.

 

[rhodescholar]

Of course not, don't be ridiculous. That would still be waging aggressive war, the overarching war crime of them all, as much as the invasion of Iraq was.

So you are totally non-credible, since iran was the aggressor and terrorist supporter, and should have been attacked. Just admit you are against all wars, and stop pretending to be something you are not.

 

[Lakhota]

 

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[nat4900]

Points to ponder:

Iran has a HUGE army, an air force, a navy, and Persians are known as among the fiercest of fighters...Further, Iran is three times the size of Iraq who, when Bush-baby and company decided to invade, was divided into 3 parts (the no-fly zones) and was weakened by Bush-daddy and company.

Bombing Iran would only set it's nuclear ambitions back by onw or two years at most...spawning rabid hatred toward the US by virtually all the billions of Muslims (except, of course, the corrupt Saudis)....and, equally, of course, pleasing the tail (Israel) who loves to get us (the dog) to do its bidding.

You're pretty clueless, iran's army is shit other the IRG, and is using airplanes from the 70s. No one is pushing for a mass invasion or bombing campaign, we are seeking a mass bombing campaign/destruction of the government, using guided munitions and special forces in some places, thats it. Deposal and liquidation of the regime is the goal, not an occupation, and and end to its hegemonistic/terrorism across the mideast.

Doesn't this dingbat echo our "belowed" Rumsfeld who stated, "[I do] Not Expect Iraq To Become 'World War III' ... "The idea that it's going to be a long, long, long battle of some kind I think is silly... "Five days or five weeks or five months, but it certainly isn't going to last any longer than that."

 

[cnm]

They are blocking inspections, refusing to allow scientists to be interviewed, and hiding facilities, how is any evidence supposed to be obtained?

The IAEA would not even have learned of parching or fordow existence had anti-regime elements not exposed them.

So what article of the NNPT is Iran currently in breach of?

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NPT Treaty

What part of MODEL PROTOCOL ADDITIONAL TO THE AGREEMENT(S)
BETWEEN STATE(S) AND THE INTERNATIONAL ATOMIC ENERGY AGENCY FOR THE APPLICATION OF SAFEGUARDS is not being implemented?

https://www.iaea.org/sites/default/files/infcirc540c.pdf

What part of IAEA Safeguards Overview: Comprehensive Safeguards Agreements and Additional Protocols is Iran violating?

IAEA Safeguards Overview International Atomic Energy Agency

No nuclear fuel is at Parching is there? That appears to be the only sticking point. Fordow has been declared, the IAEA cannot say Iran is pursuing a nuclear weapon, nor can it say Iran is currently in breach of its agreements that I can see.

After the Iraqi experienc of UNSCOM where US agents spied on Iraqi military secrets under the guise of WMD search I can't imagine any country letting a UN inspection team near a military base that has no nuclear fuel associated with it.

I note you still don't challenge my assertion that the signatory nuclear powers are themselves in blatant breach of the NNPT, quite easily shown as opposed to suspicion.

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[cnm]

So you are totally non-credible, since iran was the aggressor and terrorist supporter, and should have been attacked. Just admit you are against all wars, and stop pretending to be something you are not.

You should admit you're a chickenhawk prepared to have others wage aggressive war on your behalf in contravention of the UN Charter and the Nuremberg Principles. I support countries waging wars of self defence, you support wars of aggression.

 

[Brain357]

Republicans Warn Iran -- and Obama -- That Deal Won t Last - Bloomberg View

A group of 47 Republican senators has written an open letter to Iran's leaders warning them that any nuclear deal they sign with President Barack Obama's administration won’t last after Obama leaves office.

Organized by freshman Senator Tom Cotton and signed by the chamber's entire party leadership as well as potential 2016 presidential contenders Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz and Rand Paul, the letter is meant not just to discourage the Iranian regime from signing a deal but also to pressure the White House into giving Congress some authority over the process.

“It has come to our attention while observing your nuclear negotiations with our government that you may not fully understand our constitutional system … Anything not approved by Congress is a mere executive agreement,” the senators wrote. “The next president could revoke such an executive agreement with the stroke of a pen and future Congresses could modify the terms of the agreement at any time.”

Arms-control advocates and supporters of the negotiations argue that the next president and the next Congress will have a hard time changing or canceling any Iran deal -- -- which is reportedly near done -- especially if it is working reasonably well.

Well, this is new, even in the world of the GOP batshit-crazy. This really does one-up it all. It's also kind of funny that there is a constitutional error in what the Senators wrote to the government of Iran. The Senate does NOT ratify treaties. That is even indicated directly on their Senate website. Instead, the Senate takes up a resolution of ratification, by which the Senate formally gives its advice and consent, empowering the president to proceed with ratification” . It's a fine point, almost splitting hairs, but worth noting.

So, Republicans hate this Democratic President so much that they are even willing to pen a letter to someone they consider an enemy of ours.

Back to the Bloomberg link:

It's stunning. And it's a rebuke on an international stage that doesn't really have a precedent. Imagine Democrats micro-managing the START talks in the 80s by sending an open letter to Gorbachev? It just wouldn't have been viewed as an acceptable political move while the talks were still happening.

The only conclusion we can make is that the GOP is not the loyal opposition, it is a severly disloyal opposition and deserves to be treated with disdain and contempt for such unamerican behavior. The GOP simply hates America, it's that simple.

I agree with the traitorous crowd. This is just crazy. Way to show weakness to the entire world.

 

[nat4900]

Profane AND stupid........Are we talking about the same CIA that assured us that Iraq was ladened with WMDs????

Clueless and an idiot - are you talking about the same CIA whose 2007 report suggesting iran had ceased building nuclear weapons was loudly embraced by idiots on the left like you?

It is evil AND stupid poster like this moron who vote for like-minded isiots who have no clue about the consequences of their actions.....Sure, we'll just "surgically" bomb-out the bad guys in Iran and all will be well in the Muslim world.

Let's say just argument sake that one of our bombers gets shot fown and the crew gets taken prisoner and paraded in the streets of Teheran.....well, then, of course its boots on the ground and MORE bombings, etc, etc., as if these clueless war-mongers have not brought us before to deaths, maiming, hatred and squandering of treasury.

 

[Contumacious]

IRANIANS removed mossadegh, not a single american was physically there. Other than writing checks and printing posters, the US did not do a single thing.

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1953

"Iran – CIA overthrows the democratically elected Mohammed Mossadegh in a military coup, after he threatened to nationalize British oil. The CIA replaces him with a dictator, the Shah of Iran, whose secret police, SAVAK, is as brutal as the Gestapo."

 

[nat4900]

Since we are a divided country anyway (a half-Black president has "helped" to deliniate the divide, it seems)....why not let just the war-mongers sign up for yet another of their blood-lust war.

 

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[Brain357]

I can't believe 47 senators decided this was a good idea. Wow

 

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[Lakhota]

Here’s a list of the GOP senators who signed the Iran letter

The letter, spearheaded by Sen. Tom Cotton, was signed by 47 Republican senators. Seven GOP senators did not sign. Here's who signed:

Signatories:
Richard Shelby (Ala.)
Jeff Sessions (Ala.)
Dan Sullivan (Alaska)
John McCain (Ariz.)
John Boozman (Ark.)
Tom Cotton (Ark.)
Cory Gardner (Colo.)
Marco Rubio (Fla.)
Johnny Isakson (Ga.)
David Perdue (Ga.)
Mike Crapo (Idaho)
Jim Risch (Idaho)
Mark Kirk (Ill.)
Chuck Grassley (Iowa)
Joni Ernst (Iowa)
Pat Roberts (Kansas)
Jerry Moran (Kansas)
Mitch McConnell (Ky.)
Rand Paul (Ky.)
David Vitter (La.)
Bill Cassidy (La.)
Roger Wicker (Miss.)
Roy Blunt (Mo.)
Steve Daines (Mont.)
Deb Fischer (Neb.)
Ben Sasse (Neb.)
Dean Heller (Nev.)
Kelly Ayotte (N.H.)
Richard Burr (N.C.)
Thom Tillis (N.C.)
John Hoeven (N.D.)
Rob Portman (Ohio)
Jim Inhofe (Okla.)
James Lankford (Okla.)
Pat Toomey (Pa.)
Lindsey Graham (S.C.)
Tim Scott (S.C.)
John Thune (S.D.)
Mike Rounds (S.D.)
John Cornyn (Texas)
Ted Cruz (Texas)
Orin Hatch (Utah)
Mike Lee (Utah)
Shelley Moore Capito (W.V.)
Ron Johnson (Wis.)
Mike Enzi (Wyo.)
John Barrasso (Wyo.)

Did not sign:
Lisa Murkowski (Alaska)
Jeff Flake (Ariz.)
Daniel Coats (Ind.)
Susan Collins (Maine)
Thad Cochran (Miss.)
Lamar Alexander (Tenn.)
Bob Corker (Tenn.)

Here's a list of the GOP senators who signed the Iran letter - The Washington Post

Is your Senator on the list?