Republicans are mostly to blame for our debt

[22lcidw]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

In the early 1960's our gross national product was in the 500 billion dollar range. In 2019 it was about 19 trillion dollars. But mirages are what they are. A home that cost several thousand dollars is now 150 thousand dollars give or take. Taxes have increased massively at the federal level on all citizens. The state, local, regional city taxes have increased like a rocket going into space. Real inflation is hidden by surviving off of slave employees over seas making products for us. And social justice sports players who endorse several dollar a pair made sneaks that sell for a couple of hundred bucks are part and parcel of fraud shills that inhabit this nation.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You would raise taxes during a recession?

That would be bad?
During his 1992 campaign, Bill Clinton said we had the worst economy since the Great Depression.
If elected, he promised a middle class tax cut. Then he raised taxes instead.
Why would he raise taxes during a bad economy?

We had a strong economy the Clinton years.

We had a strong economy the Clinton years.

In 1992, Clinton said it was the worst!

Was he lying?

In 1992, Clinton said he'd cut middle class taxes.

Was he lying?

 

[Brain357]

You would raise taxes during a recession?

That would be bad?
During his 1992 campaign, Bill Clinton said we had the worst economy since the Great Depression.
If elected, he promised a middle class tax cut. Then he raised taxes instead.
Why would he raise taxes during a bad economy?

We had a strong economy the Clinton years.

We had a strong economy the Clinton years.

In 1992, Clinton said it was the worst!

Was he lying?

In 1992, Clinton said he'd cut middle class taxes.

Was he lying?

He’s a politician.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You would raise taxes during a recession?

That would be bad?
During his 1992 campaign, Bill Clinton said we had the worst economy since the Great Depression.
If elected, he promised a middle class tax cut. Then he raised taxes instead.
Why would he raise taxes during a bad economy?

We had a strong economy the Clinton years.

We had a strong economy the Clinton years.

In 1992, Clinton said it was the worst!

Was he lying?

In 1992, Clinton said he'd cut middle class taxes.

Was he lying?

He’s a politician.

Yes, Clinton lied.

 

[Brain357]

You would raise taxes during a recession?

That would be bad?
During his 1992 campaign, Bill Clinton said we had the worst economy since the Great Depression.
If elected, he promised a middle class tax cut. Then he raised taxes instead.
Why would he raise taxes during a bad economy?

We had a strong economy the Clinton years.

We had a strong economy the Clinton years.

In 1992, Clinton said it was the worst!

Was he lying?

In 1992, Clinton said he'd cut middle class taxes.

Was he lying?

He’s a politician.

Yes, Clinton lied.

Many times no doubt.

 

[Penelope]

You would raise taxes during a recession?

That would be bad?
During his 1992 campaign, Bill Clinton said we had the worst economy since the Great Depression.
If elected, he promised a middle class tax cut. Then he raised taxes instead.
Why would he raise taxes during a bad economy?

That is because of Reaganomics.

So O’s enormous spending, which only enriched Wall Street was good, but W’s and Trump’s was bad.

Do you fail to see how partisan that is?

They both cut taxes, and Bush Sr raised them, and Obama needed to continue them.

Obama the Fraud railed against W’s tax cuts “for the rich,” during his first campaign. Then as the fraud he is, gladly extended them.

He didn’t run on cuts or make his own. The Bush cuts made fiscal irresponsibility easy.

Poor Obama, couldn't raise taxes. Bush's fault.

Yes its Bushs and his admin fault, they caused the great depression.

Yes, only Republicans cause economic down turns, wars, and racial divide.

Why not kill them all and have a utopia?

I don't think you have to kill anybody, but I agree.

They did that during the Russian Revolution. How did that work out?

Did tramp get rehired, but he protects Russia, which is the reason he hired Manafort.

 

[gipper]

So O’s enormous spending, which only enriched Wall Street was good, but W’s and Trump’s was bad.

Do you fail to see how partisan that is?

They both cut taxes, and Bush Sr raised them, and Obama needed to continue them.

Obama the Fraud railed against W’s tax cuts “for the rich,” during his first campaign. Then as the fraud he is, gladly extended them.

He didn’t run on cuts or make his own. The Bush cuts made fiscal irresponsibility easy.

Anything to make excuses for O the Fraud...but that fucking Trump is a tax cutting and big spending asshole. Lol.

Damn dude. You’ve had your entire position destroyed by just about everybody in this thread.

 

[Billiejeens]

I'm confused. Was Trump the one that wrote this last Covid Relief spending bill?

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What does that matter?

Between the Covid Relief and Omnibus bill the spending is another approximately 2.2 trillion dollars. My question is whether Trump wrote these budgets or was forced to sign given how Congress has ignored his requests to focus spending On Americans?

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If he didnt like them, there are ways to show that. HE signs them into law.

so naïve

We have had presidents that vetoed like crazy.
Know why? They had integrity.

I laugh

Trump could shoot someone on 5th avenue and all that.
We know your game

The media did claim that.

Whats my game?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That is because of Reaganomics.

Clinton raised taxes during a bad economy, because of Reaganomics?

Tell me more!!!

 

[Brain357]

So O’s enormous spending, which only enriched Wall Street was good, but W’s and Trump’s was bad.

Do you fail to see how partisan that is?

They both cut taxes, and Bush Sr raised them, and Obama needed to continue them.

Obama the Fraud railed against W’s tax cuts “for the rich,” during his first campaign. Then as the fraud he is, gladly extended them.

He didn’t run on cuts or make his own. The Bush cuts made fiscal irresponsibility easy.

Anything to make excuses for O the Fraud...but that fucking Trump is a tax cutting and big spending asshole. Lol.

Damn dude. You’ve had your entire position destroyed by just about everybody in this thread.

You seem confused. Because Obama extended the cuts taxes didn’t change. That’s a fact. He neither cut nor increased taxes, they remained the same.

 

[Brain357]

So O’s enormous spending, which only enriched Wall Street was good, but W’s and Trump’s was bad.

Do you fail to see how partisan that is?

They both cut taxes, and Bush Sr raised them, and Obama needed to continue them.

Obama the Fraud railed against W’s tax cuts “for the rich,” during his first campaign. Then as the fraud he is, gladly extended them.

He didn’t run on cuts or make his own. The Bush cuts made fiscal irresponsibility easy.

Anything to make excuses for O the Fraud...but that fucking Trump is a tax cutting and big spending asshole. Lol.

Damn dude. You’ve had your entire position destroyed by just about everybody in this thread.

Btw I’ve not said Obama was responsible, just not as bad as republicans.

 

[TNHarley]

So O’s enormous spending, which only enriched Wall Street was good, but W’s and Trump’s was bad.

Do you fail to see how partisan that is?

They both cut taxes, and Bush Sr raised them, and Obama needed to continue them.

Obama the Fraud railed against W’s tax cuts “for the rich,” during his first campaign. Then as the fraud he is, gladly extended them.

He didn’t run on cuts or make his own. The Bush cuts made fiscal irresponsibility easy.

Anything to make excuses for O the Fraud...but that fucking Trump is a tax cutting and big spending asshole. Lol.

Damn dude. You’ve had your entire position destroyed by just about everybody in this thread.

Btw I’ve not said Obama was responsible, just not as bad as republicans.

No broad brush, now... huh?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So O’s enormous spending, which only enriched Wall Street was good, but W’s and Trump’s was bad.

Do you fail to see how partisan that is?

They both cut taxes, and Bush Sr raised them, and Obama needed to continue them.

Obama the Fraud railed against W’s tax cuts “for the rich,” during his first campaign. Then as the fraud he is, gladly extended them.

He didn’t run on cuts or make his own. The Bush cuts made fiscal irresponsibility easy.

Anything to make excuses for O the Fraud...but that fucking Trump is a tax cutting and big spending asshole. Lol.

Damn dude. You’ve had your entire position destroyed by just about everybody in this thread.

You seem confused. Because Obama extended the cuts taxes didn’t change. That’s a fact. He neither cut nor increased taxes, they remained the same.

That’s a fact. He neither cut nor increased taxes, they remained the same.

You're confused.

 

[Brain357]

So O’s enormous spending, which only enriched Wall Street was good, but W’s and Trump’s was bad.

Do you fail to see how partisan that is?

They both cut taxes, and Bush Sr raised them, and Obama needed to continue them.

Obama the Fraud railed against W’s tax cuts “for the rich,” during his first campaign. Then as the fraud he is, gladly extended them.

He didn’t run on cuts or make his own. The Bush cuts made fiscal irresponsibility easy.

Anything to make excuses for O the Fraud...but that fucking Trump is a tax cutting and big spending asshole. Lol.

Damn dude. You’ve had your entire position destroyed by just about everybody in this thread.

Btw I’ve not said Obama was responsible, just not as bad as republicans.

No broad brush, now... huh?

He didn’t cut taxes and increase spending.

 

[Brain357]

So O’s enormous spending, which only enriched Wall Street was good, but W’s and Trump’s was bad.

Do you fail to see how partisan that is?

They both cut taxes, and Bush Sr raised them, and Obama needed to continue them.

Obama the Fraud railed against W’s tax cuts “for the rich,” during his first campaign. Then as the fraud he is, gladly extended them.

He didn’t run on cuts or make his own. The Bush cuts made fiscal irresponsibility easy.

Anything to make excuses for O the Fraud...but that fucking Trump is a tax cutting and big spending asshole. Lol.

Damn dude. You’ve had your entire position destroyed by just about everybody in this thread.

You seem confused. Because Obama extended the cuts taxes didn’t change. That’s a fact. He neither cut nor increased taxes, they remained the same.

That’s a fact. He neither cut nor increased taxes, they remained the same.

You're confused.

You are. Extending the cuts means that taxes were unchanged from the previous year. Unchanged is not cutting taxes.

 

[Billiejeens]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

It’s always good for a laugh when Dims pretend concern about fiscal responsibility. Yet, on the political hypocrisy measure, they only just lead the GOPers by a hair.

At least we stand for things apart from a huge tax cuts for the wealthy.

Yes
But nothing good.

 

[Natural Citizen]

They're pretty much all Keynesian. The only exceptions would be the small group we've had in there infiltrating the party. Massie, Paul, Amash, a couple more...

The funny thing is that whenever the republican electorate is asked who they'd support in the future in terms of GOP leadership, they pop off the same names of the same tired old Keynesian, warmongering, anti-liberty neocons.

To me, the problem is the electorate, to be honest.

 

[Brain357]

They're pretty much all Keynesian. The only exceptions would be the small group we have in there infiltrating the party. Massie, Paul, Amash, a couple more...

Paul is a fraud and a strong trump supporter.

 

[Billiejeens]

There is no debt outrage because republicans keep cutting taxes. They fuel irresponsible spending.

What do you see as the purpose of taxation?

Taxation should pay for spending. If it goes on the credit card and we get tax cuts that fuels more spending.

Do we agree that in general taxation should simply be to "fund the Government?
(there are some "sin taxes" to discourage behaviors- but that is not the real purpose of taxation)

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So O’s enormous spending, which only enriched Wall Street was good, but W’s and Trump’s was bad.

Do you fail to see how partisan that is?

They both cut taxes, and Bush Sr raised them, and Obama needed to continue them.

Obama the Fraud railed against W’s tax cuts “for the rich,” during his first campaign. Then as the fraud he is, gladly extended them.

He didn’t run on cuts or make his own. The Bush cuts made fiscal irresponsibility easy.

Anything to make excuses for O the Fraud...but that fucking Trump is a tax cutting and big spending asshole. Lol.

Damn dude. You’ve had your entire position destroyed by just about everybody in this thread.

You seem confused. Because Obama extended the cuts taxes didn’t change. That’s a fact. He neither cut nor increased taxes, they remained the same.

That’s a fact. He neither cut nor increased taxes, they remained the same.

You're confused.

You are. Extending the cuts means that taxes were unchanged from the previous year. Unchanged is not cutting taxes.

Obama hiked taxes in 2013 on families making over $450,000 and on singles making over $400,000.