Republicans are mostly to blame for our debt

[Brain357]

Obama let tax cuts continue,

He was literally the worst.

Trump is literally the worst.

 

[Votto]

They're not to be taken seriously.

aww Macs growing up.
Maybe one day he will realize the other party does the same exact thing, and then he can be truly "woke"

When have dems pushed tax cuts and spending increases?

Dims are always pushing spending increases, moron. How much is the Green New Deal supposed to cost?

As are repubs. Trump drastically increased military spending. Only one party increases spending AND cuts taxes

Just keep voting "D" there buddy and everything will be OK.

Im an independent. You seem to be in some denial. Which party continued to increase spending and cut taxes?

Sure you are.

If so, why have you voted for the GOP in the past? What good have they done?

Mwhahahaha!!!

They didn’t. Bush ruined the balanced budget.

You don't seem to understand. To say you are an "independent" implies that you have voted for both parties. So at what time in your life have you voted for the GOP, or are you trying to convince us you are an independent while only voting "D"?

 

[TNHarley]

Im an independent. You seem to be in some denial. Which party continued to increase spending and cut taxes?

Besides Obama?

Obama let tax cuts continue, he didn’t cut taxes.

What a fuckin joke

Yet it is a fact.

He extended them. They were to expire and he signed a law keeping them on the books.
You can be a dishonest, partisan peckerhead if you want

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So O’s enormous spending, which only enriched Wall Street was good, but W’s and Trump’s was bad.

Do you fail to see how partisan that is?

I said mostly. People won’t care about debt and spending till taxes increase. Repubs happily increase spending and decrease taxes. It’s not partisan, just a fact.

Repubs happily increase spending and decrease taxes.

as do dems

It’s not partisan, just a fact.

Dems don't cut taxes and increase spending. Dems are the party of "tax and spend", so that they're paying for their programs without increasing the deficit. Notice how Dems tax BEFORE they spend. Republicans "cut and spend" leading ballooning deficits. They announce programs and run wars without ever creating a tax to pay for any of it.

Even Reagan, in the early stages of Alzheimers, realized that "trickle down" doesn't work, and cutting taxes was a disaster that increased poverty and unemployment. He didn't raise income tax rates, he just cancelled a whole lot of deductions to increase revenues.

Republicans have been selling this notion that tax cuts create jobs, and that they pay for themselves because of the increased revenue from the jobs created. Both ideas have been debunked numerous times, but Republicans continue to do this over and over, resulting in three massive economic crashes in 40 years.

The 2015 deficit was just over $400 billion, and growth in jobs, income, and GDP were steady. Stock market gains were spectacular during the Obama Administration - with the stock market tripling during his 8 years in office.

Instead of reducing spending and eliminating the deficit, Trump went on a spending spree, and instead of cutting spending in a boom, Trump applied the massive economic stimilus of tax cuts and deficit spending, to an already growing economy. Since corporations and billionaires were already awash in cash, the tax cuts didn't have the stimulus expected and job growth declined, because the promised $4000 raise for workers from the tax cuts, failed to materialize. Instead, the corporations funded buyouts of minority shareholders, increasing share value, and further concentrating wealth at the top.

Now you have a sitution where you NEED to stimulate the economy, and there is no money in the budget to do that. Large corporations have increased their value by trillions of dollars in the pandemic, but the people are sick, hungry and increasingly desperate. It's government FOR THE PEOPLE, not the corporations, nor the wealthy. All of the people.

Even Reagan, in the early stages of Alzheimers, realized that "trickle down" doesn't work, and cutting taxes was a disaster that increased poverty and unemployment.

Sounds awful!!!

Explain how that works.

How does cutting taxes increase poverty and unemployment? Be specific.

 

[Brain357]

The best you guys seem to have is that Obama let the Bush tax cuts continue during a recession. Well it still started with Bush. Republican tax cuts fuel more spending.

 

[Brain357]

Im an independent. You seem to be in some denial. Which party continued to increase spending and cut taxes?

Besides Obama?

Obama let tax cuts continue, he didn’t cut taxes.

What a fuckin joke

Yet it is a fact.

He extended them. They were to expire and he signed a law keeping them on the books.
You can be a dishonest, partisan peckerhead if you want

You would raise taxes during a recession? He didn’t cut taxes, we already had the cut.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The best you guys seem to have is that Obama let the Bush tax cuts continue during a recession. Well it still started with Bush. Republican tax cuts fuel more spending.

The best you guys seem to have is that Obama let the Bush tax cuts continue during a recession.

Raising taxes hurts the economy?

Republican tax cuts fuel more spending.

Clinton hiked taxes in 1993. He increased spending.

 

[bripat9643]

So O’s enormous spending, which only enriched Wall Street was good, but W’s and Trump’s was bad.

Do you fail to see how partisan that is?

I said mostly. People won’t care about debt and spending till taxes increase. Repubs happily increase spending and decrease taxes. It’s not partisan, just a fact.

Repubs happily increase spending and decrease taxes.

as do dems

It’s not partisan, just a fact.

Dems don't cut taxes and increase spending. Dems are the party of "tax and spend", so that they're paying for their programs without increasing the deficit. Notice how Dems tax BEFORE they spend. Republicans "cut and spend" leading ballooning deficits. They announce programs and run wars without ever creating a tax to pay for any of it.

Even Reagan, in the early stages of Alzheimers, realized that "trickle down" doesn't work, and cutting taxes was a disaster that increased poverty and unemployment. He didn't raise income tax rates, he just cancelled a whole lot of deductions to increase revenues.

Republicans have been selling this notion that tax cuts create jobs, and that they pay for themselves because of the increased revenue from the jobs created. Both ideas have been debunked numerous times, but Republicans continue to do this over and over, resulting in three massive economic crashes in 40 years.

The 2015 deficit was just over $400 billion, and growth in jobs, income, and GDP were steady. Stock market gains were spectacular during the Obama Administration - with the stock market tripling during his 8 years in office.

Instead of reducing spending and eliminating the deficit, Trump went on a spending spree, and instead of cutting spending in a boom, Trump applied the massive economic stimilus of tax cuts and deficit spending, to an already growing economy. Since corporations and billionaires were already awash in cash, the tax cuts didn't have the stimulus expected and job growth declined, because the promised $4000 raise for workers from the tax cuts, failed to materialize. Instead, the corporations funded buyouts of minority shareholders, increasing share value, and further concentrating wealth at the top.

Now you have a sitution where you NEED to stimulate the economy, and there is no money in the budget to do that. Large corporations have increased their value by trillions of dollars in the pandemic, but the people are sick, hungry and increasingly desperate. It's government FOR THE PEOPLE, not the corporations, nor the wealthy. All of the people.

Even Reagan, in the early stages of Alzheimers, realized that "trickle down" doesn't work, and cutting taxes was a disaster that increased poverty and unemployment.

Sounds awful!!!

Explain how that works.

How does cutting taxes increase poverty and unemployment? Be specific.

"Trickle Down" is a term Democrats invented to denigrate the free market. The free market always works.

 

[Brain357]

The best you guys seem to have is that Obama let the Bush tax cuts continue during a recession. Well it still started with Bush. Republican tax cuts fuel more spending.

The best you guys seem to have is that Obama let the Bush tax cuts continue during a recession.

Raising taxes hurts the economy?

Republican tax cuts fuel more spending.

Clinton hiked taxes in 1993. He increased spending.

Clinton decreased deficits a lot.

 

[bripat9643]

The best you guys seem to have is that Obama let the Bush tax cuts continue during a recession. Well it still started with Bush. Republican tax cuts fuel more spending.

The best you guys seem to have is that Obama let the Bush tax cuts continue during a recession.

Raising taxes hurts the economy?

Of course it does, fool. How could it possibly help?

Republican tax cuts fuel more spending.

Clinton hiked taxes in 1993. He increased spending.

So?

 

[TNHarley]

Im an independent. You seem to be in some denial. Which party continued to increase spending and cut taxes?

Besides Obama?

Obama let tax cuts continue, he didn’t cut taxes.

What a fuckin joke

Yet it is a fact.

He extended them. They were to expire and he signed a law keeping them on the books.
You can be a dishonest, partisan peckerhead if you want

You would raise taxes during a recession? He didn’t cut taxes, we already had the cut.

They were set to EXPIRE. He signed them back in effect. They became obamas tax cuts.
Toddsterpatriot killed your whole thread and got your little ass moving the goal posts faster than you can type

 

[bripat9643]

The best you guys seem to have is that Obama let the Bush tax cuts continue during a recession. Well it still started with Bush. Republican tax cuts fuel more spending.

The best you guys seem to have is that Obama let the Bush tax cuts continue during a recession.

Raising taxes hurts the economy?

Republican tax cuts fuel more spending.

Clinton hiked taxes in 1993. He increased spending.

Clinton decreased deficits a lot.

Clinton cashed in on the peace dividend. Nothing he did decreased the deficit.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You would raise taxes during a recession?

That would be bad?
During his 1992 campaign, Bill Clinton said we had the worst economy since the Great Depression.
If elected, he promised a middle class tax cut. Then he raised taxes instead.
Why would he raise taxes during a bad economy?

 

[Mac1958]

They're not to be taken seriously.

aww Macs growing up.
Maybe one day he will realize the other party does the same exact thing, and then he can be truly "woke"

When have dems pushed tax cuts and spending increases?

Dims are always pushing spending increases, moron. How much is the Green New Deal supposed to cost?

As are repubs. Trump drastically increased military spending. Only one party increases spending AND cuts taxes

Just keep voting "D" there buddy and everything will be OK.

Im an independent. You seem to be in some denial. Which party continued to increase spending and cut taxes?

The solution here is very simple for the GOP: Cut spending, THEN cut taxes.

So all they have to do is run on the promises of cutting Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, various departments and programs, and get spending down to where they want it.

If they win, they can cut to their hearts' delight, THEN cut spending to their hearts' delight, too.

Why don't they do this? Isn't this the obvious approach? Or are they just full of shit?

 

[Penelope]

So O’s enormous spending, which only enriched Wall Street was good, but W’s and Trump’s was bad.

Do you fail to see how partisan that is?

They both cut taxes, and Bush Sr raised them, and Obama needed to continue them.

Obama the Fraud railed against W’s tax cuts “for the rich,” during his first campaign. Then as the fraud he is, gladly extended them.

He didn’t run on cuts or make his own. The Bush cuts made fiscal irresponsibility easy.

Poor Obama, couldn't raise taxes. Bush's fault.

Yes its Bushs and his admin fault, they caused the great depression.

Yes, only Republicans cause economic down turns, wars, and racial divide.

Why not kill them all and have a utopia?

I don't think you have to kill anybody, but I agree.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The best you guys seem to have is that Obama let the Bush tax cuts continue during a recession. Well it still started with Bush. Republican tax cuts fuel more spending.

The best you guys seem to have is that Obama let the Bush tax cuts continue during a recession.

Raising taxes hurts the economy?

Republican tax cuts fuel more spending.

Clinton hiked taxes in 1993. He increased spending.

Clinton decreased deficits a lot.

Clinton decreased deficits a lot.

Yeah, that was awesome!

How much was spending when he took office?
How much lower was spending by the time he left?

 

[bripat9643]

So O’s enormous spending, which only enriched Wall Street was good, but W’s and Trump’s was bad.

Do you fail to see how partisan that is?

They both cut taxes, and Bush Sr raised them, and Obama needed to continue them.

Obama the Fraud railed against W’s tax cuts “for the rich,” during his first campaign. Then as the fraud he is, gladly extended them.

He didn’t run on cuts or make his own. The Bush cuts made fiscal irresponsibility easy.

Poor Obama, couldn't raise taxes. Bush's fault.

Yes its Bushs and his admin fault, they caused the great depression.

Yes, only Republicans cause economic down turns, wars, and racial divide.

Why not kill them all and have a utopia?

I don't think you have to kill anybody, but I agree.

They did that during the Russian Revolution. How did that work out?

 

[Brain357]

Im an independent. You seem to be in some denial. Which party continued to increase spending and cut taxes?

Besides Obama?

Obama let tax cuts continue, he didn’t cut taxes.

What a fuckin joke

Yet it is a fact.

He extended them. They were to expire and he signed a law keeping them on the books.
You can be a dishonest, partisan peckerhead if you want

You would raise taxes during a recession? He didn’t cut taxes, we already had the cut.

They were set to EXPIRE. He signed them back in effect. They became obamas tax cuts.
Toddsterpatriot killed your whole thread and got your little ass moving the goal posts faster than you can type

If Obama let them expire he would then be increasing taxes. He simply let them continue. You seem confused.

 

[Votto]

So O’s enormous spending, which only enriched Wall Street was good, but W’s and Trump’s was bad.

Do you fail to see how partisan that is?

They both cut taxes, and Bush Sr raised them, and Obama needed to continue them.

Obama the Fraud railed against W’s tax cuts “for the rich,” during his first campaign. Then as the fraud he is, gladly extended them.

He didn’t run on cuts or make his own. The Bush cuts made fiscal irresponsibility easy.

Poor Obama, couldn't raise taxes. Bush's fault.

Yes its Bushs and his admin fault, they caused the great depression.

Yes, only Republicans cause economic down turns, wars, and racial divide.

Why not kill them all and have a utopia?

I don't think you have to kill anybody, but I agree.

True, you could put them in concentration camps.

Just ask a National Socialists who are you kin.

 

[Brain357]

You would raise taxes during a recession?

That would be bad?
During his 1992 campaign, Bill Clinton said we had the worst economy since the Great Depression.
If elected, he promised a middle class tax cut. Then he raised taxes instead.
Why would he raise taxes during a bad economy?

We had a strong economy the Clinton years.