Republicans are mostly to blame for our debt

[Auld Phart]

The best you guys seem to have is that Obama let the Bush tax cuts continue during a recession. Well it still started with Bush. Republican tax cuts fuel more spending.

The best you guys seem to have is that Obama let the Bush tax cuts continue during a recession.

Raising taxes hurts the economy?

Republican tax cuts fuel more spending.

Clinton hiked taxes in 1993. He increased spending.

Clinton decreased deficits a lot.

Clinton wiped out the deficit to zero. He balanced the budget, then created a large surplus.

We were on course to pay off the huge debt regan/bush left us. Clinton's plan had the regan/bush national debt paid off by 2010.

The bush boy destroyed it all.

Clinton wiped out the deficit to zero.

What year was the deficit zero under Clinton?

 

[22lcidw]

What programs did Obama say he was willing to cut? . . . . . .

That's right: none.

And trump increased spending and cut taxes.

Freeze social programs spending.

 

[Blues Man]

The best you guys seem to have is that Obama let the Bush tax cuts continue during a recession. Well it still started with Bush. Republican tax cuts fuel more spending.

The best you guys seem to have is that Obama let the Bush tax cuts continue during a recession.

Raising taxes hurts the economy?

Republican tax cuts fuel more spending.

Clinton hiked taxes in 1993. He increased spending.

Clinton decreased deficits a lot.

Clinton wiped out the deficit to zero. He balanced the budget, then created a large surplus.

We were on course to pay off the huge debt regan/bush left us. Clinton's plan had the regan/bush national debt paid off by 2010.

The bush boy destroyed it all.

Clinton wiped out the deficit to zero.

What year was the deficit zero under Clinton?

1998-2001 but it doesn't really matter because the debt was larger after Clinton left office than when he was elected and then the tech bubble popped

 

[Brain357]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

History and politics not strong with you is it cum breath?

And yet you can’t deny any of the facts.

Deny what you don't know the facts.

Reagan had to compromise with tippy

Newt is the one who balanced the budget for a few

Fact is that repubs fuel increased spending with tax cuts.

so democrats take no responsibility for their increased spending they just blame republicans for cutting taxes.

got it.

Doesn't it seem to be the rationale that if everyone is to blame then no one is at fault?

Tax payers don’t care about spending because it goes on the credit card and they get tax cuts.

now you're finally getting it

No one cares about the debt.

And it ain't gonna matter before I'm dead so i don't care either

I get it, it’s the point of the OP . Nobody will care till we increase taxes, cuts are making people care less and less.

presidents have increased taxes and still no one cared.

Reagan passed the single largest peacetime tax hike in history and no one cared that he grew the debt

Clinton raised taxes and no one cared that he raised the debt

Bush #1 raised taxes and no one cared that he increased the debt

how can you keep saying that people will care when taxes are raised when they have shown just the opposite?

Deficits decreased under Clinton. Increasing taxes is the only way. You are talking small increases. If taxes increased as much as spending then people would take notice.

 

[MarcATL]

Look, why don't you stop running your know-nothing mouth, take a bit of time and read this speech by Obama:

Obama’s Speech on Reducing the Budget (Text) (Published 2011)

A text of President Obama’s remarks on reducing the federal budget, as released by the White House on Wednesday.

www.nytimes.com

here is an excerpt from it:

So here's the truth. Around two-thirds of our budget -- two-thirds -- is spent on Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and national security. Two-thirds. Programs like unemployment insurance, student loans, veterans' benefits, and tax credits for working families take up another 20 percent.

What's left, after interest on the debt, is just 12 percent for everything else. That's 12 percent for all of our national priorities -- education, clean energy, medical research, transportation, our national parks, food safety, keeping our air and water clean -- you name it -- all of that accounts for 12 percent of our budget.

Now, up till now, the debate here in Washington, the cuts proposed by a lot of folks in Washington, have focused exclusively on that 12 percent. But cuts to that 12 percent alone won't solve the problem. So any serious plan to tackle our deficit will require us to put everything on the table, and take on excess spending wherever it exists in the budget.


Obama CLEARLY has said that he is willing to compromise on spending and to cut major programs like SS, Medicare/Medicaid and etc.

If Republicans didn't LIE, they'd have NOTHING to say!

 

[Brain357]

What programs did Obama say he was willing to cut? . . . . . .

That's right: none.

And trump increased spending and cut taxes.

The bottom line is that no Dim president has ever proposed cutting spending.

Bottom line is that repubs increase spending and cut taxes. Worse.

it's meaningless

both parties have added to the debt because neither party really cares

They don’t care because tax payers don’t care because taxes don’t increase.

 

[Brain357]

The blame for our debt is a lack of understanding of and lack of concern for sound economics and monetary policy.

Arguing over red helmets and blue helmets when they're both playing on the same team in the same Keynesian game anyway is why the rest of the world laughs at the American electorate. You're basically being banged in both ends at the same time and arguing over which one went deeper and which one was more satisfying than the other. What the heck. Do you even listen to yourselves? It's pathetic.


You were warned...



So reap it. Those who understand are very likely prepared and will be just fine.

It's kind of like the story of Noah's Ark. Remember how everyone laughed at Noah? Well...you know how that went...

Only one team cuts taxes.

 

[Blues Man]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

History and politics not strong with you is it cum breath?

And yet you can’t deny any of the facts.

Deny what you don't know the facts.

Reagan had to compromise with tippy

Newt is the one who balanced the budget for a few

Fact is that repubs fuel increased spending with tax cuts.

so democrats take no responsibility for their increased spending they just blame republicans for cutting taxes.

got it.

Doesn't it seem to be the rationale that if everyone is to blame then no one is at fault?

Tax payers don’t care about spending because it goes on the credit card and they get tax cuts.

now you're finally getting it

No one cares about the debt.

And it ain't gonna matter before I'm dead so i don't care either

I get it, it’s the point of the OP . Nobody will care till we increase taxes, cuts are making people care less and less.

presidents have increased taxes and still no one cared.

Reagan passed the single largest peacetime tax hike in history and no one cared that he grew the debt

Clinton raised taxes and no one cared that he raised the debt

Bush #1 raised taxes and no one cared that he increased the debt

how can you keep saying that people will care when taxes are raised when they have shown just the opposite?

Deficits decreased under Clinton. Increasing taxes is the only way. You are talking small increases. If taxes increased as much as spending then people would take notice.

no they wouldn't.

because it will never happen.

No politician will ever get elected if he says he's going to increase taxes to cover all spending.

what fantasy land do you call home?

 

[Brain357]

What programs did Obama say he was willing to cut? . . . . . .

That's right: none.

And trump increased spending and cut taxes.

Freeze social programs spending.

But keep increasing military spending and cutting taxes right?

 

[Blues Man]

What programs did Obama say he was willing to cut? . . . . . .

That's right: none.

And trump increased spending and cut taxes.

The bottom line is that no Dim president has ever proposed cutting spending.

Bottom line is that repubs increase spending and cut taxes. Worse.

it's meaningless

both parties have added to the debt because neither party really cares

They don’t care because tax payers don’t care because taxes don’t increase.

and yet you still think that a politician can tell the people that he will increase taxes by 3 trillion a year and still get elected?

 

[Brain357]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

History and politics not strong with you is it cum breath?

And yet you can’t deny any of the facts.

Deny what you don't know the facts.

Reagan had to compromise with tippy

Newt is the one who balanced the budget for a few

Fact is that repubs fuel increased spending with tax cuts.

so democrats take no responsibility for their increased spending they just blame republicans for cutting taxes.

got it.

Doesn't it seem to be the rationale that if everyone is to blame then no one is at fault?

Tax payers don’t care about spending because it goes on the credit card and they get tax cuts.

now you're finally getting it

No one cares about the debt.

And it ain't gonna matter before I'm dead so i don't care either

I get it, it’s the point of the OP . Nobody will care till we increase taxes, cuts are making people care less and less.

presidents have increased taxes and still no one cared.

Reagan passed the single largest peacetime tax hike in history and no one cared that he grew the debt

Clinton raised taxes and no one cared that he raised the debt

Bush #1 raised taxes and no one cared that he increased the debt

how can you keep saying that people will care when taxes are raised when they have shown just the opposite?

Deficits decreased under Clinton. Increasing taxes is the only way. You are talking small increases. If taxes increased as much as spending then people would take notice.

no they wouldn't.

because it will never happen.

No politician will ever get elected if he says he's going to increase taxes to cover all spending.

what fantasy land do you call home?

That is the problem. And repubs are worse cause they cut taxes and increase spending.

Biden said he was increasing some taxes and was elected. It’s a start.

 

[Brain357]

What programs did Obama say he was willing to cut? . . . . . .

That's right: none.

And trump increased spending and cut taxes.

The bottom line is that no Dim president has ever proposed cutting spending.

Bottom line is that repubs increase spending and cut taxes. Worse.

it's meaningless

both parties have added to the debt because neither party really cares

They don’t care because tax payers don’t care because taxes don’t increase.

and yet you still think that a politician can tell the people that he will increase taxes by 3 trillion a year and still get elected?

He should have to increase taxes based on spending increases.

 

[Blues Man]

The blame for our debt is a lack of understanding of and lack of concern for sound economics and monetary policy.

Arguing over red helmets and blue helmets when they're both playing on the same team in the same Keynesian game anyway is why the rest of the world laughs at the American electorate. You're basically being banged in both ends at the same time and arguing over which one went deeper and which one was more satisfying than the other. What the heck. Do you even listen to yourselves? It's pathetic.


You were warned...



So reap it. Those who understand are very likely prepared and will be just fine.

It's kind of like the story of Noah's Ark. Remember how everyone laughed at Noah? Well...you know how that went...

Only one team cuts taxes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2019/02/27/top-tax-rate-has-been-cut-six-times-since-usually-with-democrats-help/

 

[Blues Man]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

History and politics not strong with you is it cum breath?

And yet you can’t deny any of the facts.

Deny what you don't know the facts.

Reagan had to compromise with tippy

Newt is the one who balanced the budget for a few

Fact is that repubs fuel increased spending with tax cuts.

so democrats take no responsibility for their increased spending they just blame republicans for cutting taxes.

got it.

Doesn't it seem to be the rationale that if everyone is to blame then no one is at fault?

Tax payers don’t care about spending because it goes on the credit card and they get tax cuts.

now you're finally getting it

No one cares about the debt.

And it ain't gonna matter before I'm dead so i don't care either

I get it, it’s the point of the OP . Nobody will care till we increase taxes, cuts are making people care less and less.

presidents have increased taxes and still no one cared.

Reagan passed the single largest peacetime tax hike in history and no one cared that he grew the debt

Clinton raised taxes and no one cared that he raised the debt

Bush #1 raised taxes and no one cared that he increased the debt

how can you keep saying that people will care when taxes are raised when they have shown just the opposite?

Deficits decreased under Clinton. Increasing taxes is the only way. You are talking small increases. If taxes increased as much as spending then people would take notice.

no they wouldn't.

because it will never happen.

No politician will ever get elected if he says he's going to increase taxes to cover all spending.

what fantasy land do you call home?

That is the problem. And repubs are worse cause they cut taxes and increase spending.

Biden said he was increasing some taxes and was elected. It’s a start.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2019/02/27/top-tax-rate-has-been-cut-six-times-since-usually-with-democrats-help/

Obama extended the Bush tax cuts and increased spending

 

[Brain357]

Both are bad is useless. We need to be clear who is worse and vote agains that party. Then the worse needs to improve.

 

[Blues Man]

What programs did Obama say he was willing to cut? . . . . . .

That's right: none.

And trump increased spending and cut taxes.

The bottom line is that no Dim president has ever proposed cutting spending.

Bottom line is that repubs increase spending and cut taxes. Worse.

it's meaningless

both parties have added to the debt because neither party really cares

They don’t care because tax payers don’t care because taxes don’t increase.

and yet you still think that a politician can tell the people that he will increase taxes by 3 trillion a year and still get elected?

He should have to increase taxes based on spending increases.

shoulda woulda coulda

are all meaningless in the real world.

tell you what you raise half a billion in campaign funds then tell the electorate that you are going to raise taxes by a couple trillion a year and let me know if you make it to office.

 

[Orangecat]

Republicans are mostly to blame for our debt

No, the fed-gov spending above its revenue levels for decades is fully to blame, and both parties willingly participated.

 

[Brain357]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

History and politics not strong with you is it cum breath?

And yet you can’t deny any of the facts.

Deny what you don't know the facts.

Reagan had to compromise with tippy

Newt is the one who balanced the budget for a few

Fact is that repubs fuel increased spending with tax cuts.

so democrats take no responsibility for their increased spending they just blame republicans for cutting taxes.

got it.

Doesn't it seem to be the rationale that if everyone is to blame then no one is at fault?

Tax payers don’t care about spending because it goes on the credit card and they get tax cuts.

now you're finally getting it

No one cares about the debt.

And it ain't gonna matter before I'm dead so i don't care either

I get it, it’s the point of the OP . Nobody will care till we increase taxes, cuts are making people care less and less.

presidents have increased taxes and still no one cared.

Reagan passed the single largest peacetime tax hike in history and no one cared that he grew the debt

Clinton raised taxes and no one cared that he raised the debt

Bush #1 raised taxes and no one cared that he increased the debt

how can you keep saying that people will care when taxes are raised when they have shown just the opposite?

Deficits decreased under Clinton. Increasing taxes is the only way. You are talking small increases. If taxes increased as much as spending then people would take notice.

no they wouldn't.

because it will never happen.

No politician will ever get elected if he says he's going to increase taxes to cover all spending.

what fantasy land do you call home?

That is the problem. And repubs are worse cause they cut taxes and increase spending.

Biden said he was increasing some taxes and was elected. It’s a start.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2019/02/27/top-tax-rate-has-been-cut-six-times-since-usually-with-democrats-help/

Obama extended the Bush tax cuts and increased spending

Extending the cuts means the rate was not changed. Had they expired rates would have increased.

 

[Blues Man]

Both are bad is useless. We need to be clear who is worse and vote agains that party. Then the worse needs to improve.

no we need to start voting for a completely new political party.

 

[22lcidw]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

History and politics not strong with you is it cum breath?

And yet you can’t deny any of the facts.

Deny what you don't know the facts.

Reagan had to compromise with tippy

Newt is the one who balanced the budget for a few

Fact is that repubs fuel increased spending with tax cuts.

so democrats take no responsibility for their increased spending they just blame republicans for cutting taxes.

got it.

Doesn't it seem to be the rationale that if everyone is to blame then no one is at fault?

Tax payers don’t care about spending because it goes on the credit card and they get tax cuts.

now you're finally getting it

No one cares about the debt.

And it ain't gonna matter before I'm dead so i don't care either

I get it, it’s the point of the OP . Nobody will care till we increase taxes, cuts are making people care less and less.

presidents have increased taxes and still no one cared.

Reagan passed the single largest peacetime tax hike in history and no one cared that he grew the debt

Clinton raised taxes and no one cared that he raised the debt

Bush #1 raised taxes and no one cared that he increased the debt

how can you keep saying that people will care when taxes are raised when they have shown just the opposite?

Deficits decreased under Clinton. Increasing taxes is the only way. You are talking small increases. If taxes increased as much as spending then people would take notice.

Clinton's first two years were of personal destruction with Hillary as co president. The Clinton years were the richest of the boomers and many laws were passed with the 1994 Repub congress to balance the budget. Permanent tax cuts did not happen.