Republicans are mostly to blame for our debt

[Brain357]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

If you mean GWB. I agree.

We also just experienced it with Trump. Last year, pre pandemic our deficit was almost a trillion. Deficits increased every year under trump. But he gave tax cuts so people didn't care.

Yes and under Obama too but GW started it with his stupid Middle East crusade.

Well deficits certainly increased with Obama, but you will see they gradually declined. Had he cut taxes there would have been no decline. We can grow out of our debt, but only if we don't cut taxes.

BArry's last 3 deficits were growing, liar.

I notice you never back up all your lies. You just spew stupidity. Bravo.

I always back up my facts, liar. You losea gain, Brainfart.

• 2017 - $665 billion budget deficit
• 2016 - $585 billion budget deficit
• 2015 - $439 billion budget deficit

US Budget Deficit by Year Since 1969

What has the U.S. budget deficit has been every year since 1969? See how much more the government spends than it takes in every year.

www.thoughtco.com

Obama wasn't president in 2017....

You really are stupid. That was his budget.

You don't even know the most basic things about the budget, Brainfart.

Oh it is cute how you flail around. You are claiming trump did nothing? And how was the 2019 deficit with all of trumps policy?

Kicking your ass with facts is flailing around?

You don't even know what years Obama was president. Funny stuff. You happily give obama credit for his firs year in office, but not trump. Your dishonesty is funny.

Quick question: Who signed the 2017 budget?

Who controlled congress?

^^^Dodge^^^^^

It's funny how your tune changes depending on your lies. One minute it's all about congress, the next minute it isn't.

 

[Nostra]

US tax revenue sharply dropped thanks to Trump cuts, new report says (cnbc.com)

FY 2020	$3.71 trillion (estimated)
FY 2019	$3.46 trillion (actual)
FY 2018	$3.33 trillion
FY 2017	$3.32 trillion

That clearly shows how tiny the rate of increase was. .01? During a strong economy? One of the weakest in history.

Your link claimed they decreased, Brainfart.

The rate dropped. Can you not keep up. Your numbers show the anemic growth rate I speak of. Thanks.

Your link: "US TAX REVENUE DROPPED SHARPLY"

A blatant lie, Brainfart.

 

[Nostra]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

If you mean GWB. I agree.

We also just experienced it with Trump. Last year, pre pandemic our deficit was almost a trillion. Deficits increased every year under trump. But he gave tax cuts so people didn't care.

Yes and under Obama too but GW started it with his stupid Middle East crusade.

Well deficits certainly increased with Obama, but you will see they gradually declined. Had he cut taxes there would have been no decline. We can grow out of our debt, but only if we don't cut taxes.

BArry's last 3 deficits were growing, liar.

I notice you never back up all your lies. You just spew stupidity. Bravo.

I always back up my facts, liar. You losea gain, Brainfart.

• 2017 - $665 billion budget deficit
• 2016 - $585 billion budget deficit
• 2015 - $439 billion budget deficit

US Budget Deficit by Year Since 1969

What has the U.S. budget deficit has been every year since 1969? See how much more the government spends than it takes in every year.

www.thoughtco.com

Obama wasn't president in 2017....

You really are stupid. That was his budget.

You don't even know the most basic things about the budget, Brainfart.

Oh it is cute how you flail around. You are claiming trump did nothing? And how was the 2019 deficit with all of trumps policy?

Kicking your ass with facts is flailing around?

You don't even know what years Obama was president. Funny stuff. You happily give obama credit for his firs year in office, but not trump. Your dishonesty is funny.

Quick question: Who signed the 2017 budget?

Who controlled congress?

^^^Dodge^^^^^

It's funny how your tune changes depending on your lies. One minute it's all about congress, the next minute it isn't.

Still dodging.

Who signed the 2017 budget?

 

[Brain357]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

If you mean GWB. I agree.

We also just experienced it with Trump. Last year, pre pandemic our deficit was almost a trillion. Deficits increased every year under trump. But he gave tax cuts so people didn't care.

Yes and under Obama too but GW started it with his stupid Middle East crusade.

Well deficits certainly increased with Obama, but you will see they gradually declined. Had he cut taxes there would have been no decline. We can grow out of our debt, but only if we don't cut taxes.

BArry's last 3 deficits were growing, liar.

I notice you never back up all your lies. You just spew stupidity. Bravo.

I always back up my facts, liar. You losea gain, Brainfart.

• 2017 - $665 billion budget deficit
• 2016 - $585 billion budget deficit
• 2015 - $439 billion budget deficit

US Budget Deficit by Year Since 1969

What has the U.S. budget deficit has been every year since 1969? See how much more the government spends than it takes in every year.

www.thoughtco.com

Obama wasn't president in 2017....

You really are stupid. That was his budget.

You don't even know the most basic things about the budget, Brainfart.

Oh it is cute how you flail around. You are claiming trump did nothing? And how was the 2019 deficit with all of trumps policy?

Kicking your ass with facts is flailing around?

You don't even know what years Obama was president. Funny stuff. You happily give obama credit for his firs year in office, but not trump. Your dishonesty is funny.

Quick question: Who signed the 2017 budget?

Who controlled congress?

^^^Dodge^^^^^

It's funny how your tune changes depending on your lies. One minute it's all about congress, the next minute it isn't.

Still dodging.

Who signed the 2017 budget?

Trump has signed off on all the spending yet your cry congress. It is funny watching you flop around.

 

[Brain357]

US tax revenue sharply dropped thanks to Trump cuts, new report says (cnbc.com)

FY 2020	$3.71 trillion (estimated)
FY 2019	$3.46 trillion (actual)
FY 2018	$3.33 trillion
FY 2017	$3.32 trillion

That clearly shows how tiny the rate of increase was. .01? During a strong economy? One of the weakest in history.

Your link claimed they decreased, Brainfart.

The rate dropped. Can you not keep up. Your numbers show the anemic growth rate I speak of. Thanks.

Your link: "US TAX REVENUE DROPPED SHARPLY"

A blatant lie, Brainfart.

Your numbers show the anemic growth rate I speak of. Thanks.

 

[Nostra]

US tax revenue sharply dropped thanks to Trump cuts, new report says (cnbc.com)

FY 2020	$3.71 trillion (estimated)
FY 2019	$3.46 trillion (actual)
FY 2018	$3.33 trillion
FY 2017	$3.32 trillion

That clearly shows how tiny the rate of increase was. .01? During a strong economy? One of the weakest in history.

Your link claimed they decreased, Brainfart.

The rate dropped. Can you not keep up. Your numbers show the anemic growth rate I speak of. Thanks.

Your link: "US TAX REVENUE DROPPED SHARPLY"

A blatant lie, Brainfart.

Your numbers show the anemic growth rate I speak of. Thanks.

Your link: "US TAX REVENUE DROPPED SHARPLY"

A blatant lie, Brainfart

 

[Brain357]

US tax revenue sharply dropped thanks to Trump cuts, new report says (cnbc.com)

FY 2020	$3.71 trillion (estimated)
FY 2019	$3.46 trillion (actual)
FY 2018	$3.33 trillion
FY 2017	$3.32 trillion

That clearly shows how tiny the rate of increase was. .01? During a strong economy? One of the weakest in history.

Your link claimed they decreased, Brainfart.

The rate dropped. Can you not keep up. Your numbers show the anemic growth rate I speak of. Thanks.

Your link: "US TAX REVENUE DROPPED SHARPLY"

A blatant lie, Brainfart.

Your numbers show the anemic growth rate I speak of. Thanks.

Your link: "US TAX REVENUE DROPPED SHARPLY"

A blatant lie, Brainfart

Your numbers show the anemic growth rate I speak of. Thanks.

 

[Nostra]

US tax revenue sharply dropped thanks to Trump cuts, new report says (cnbc.com)

FY 2020	$3.71 trillion (estimated)
FY 2019	$3.46 trillion (actual)
FY 2018	$3.33 trillion
FY 2017	$3.32 trillion

That clearly shows how tiny the rate of increase was. .01? During a strong economy? One of the weakest in history.

Your link claimed they decreased, Brainfart.

The rate dropped. Can you not keep up. Your numbers show the anemic growth rate I speak of. Thanks.

Your link: "US TAX REVENUE DROPPED SHARPLY"

A blatant lie, Brainfart.

Your numbers show the anemic growth rate I speak of. Thanks.

Your link: "US TAX REVENUE DROPPED SHARPLY"

A blatant lie, Brainfart

Your numbers show the anemic growth rate I speak of. Thanks.

Your link: "US TAX REVENUE DROPPED SHARPLY"

A blatant lie, Brainfart

 

[Brain357]

US tax revenue sharply dropped thanks to Trump cuts, new report says (cnbc.com)

FY 2020	$3.71 trillion (estimated)
FY 2019	$3.46 trillion (actual)
FY 2018	$3.33 trillion
FY 2017	$3.32 trillion

That clearly shows how tiny the rate of increase was. .01? During a strong economy? One of the weakest in history.

Your link claimed they decreased, Brainfart.

The rate dropped. Can you not keep up. Your numbers show the anemic growth rate I speak of. Thanks.

Your link: "US TAX REVENUE DROPPED SHARPLY"

A blatant lie, Brainfart.

Your numbers show the anemic growth rate I speak of. Thanks.

Your link: "US TAX REVENUE DROPPED SHARPLY"

A blatant lie, Brainfart

Your numbers show the anemic growth rate I speak of. Thanks.

Your link: "US TAX REVENUE DROPPED SHARPLY"

A blatant lie, Brainfart

Why do you keep rambling stupidly? YOUR numbers support what I have been saying. Anemic revenue growth. Lets use your numbers. Stop flailing stupidy.

 

[Nostra]

US tax revenue sharply dropped thanks to Trump cuts, new report says (cnbc.com)

FY 2020	$3.71 trillion (estimated)
FY 2019	$3.46 trillion (actual)
FY 2018	$3.33 trillion
FY 2017	$3.32 trillion

That clearly shows how tiny the rate of increase was. .01? During a strong economy? One of the weakest in history.

Your link claimed they decreased, Brainfart.

The rate dropped. Can you not keep up. Your numbers show the anemic growth rate I speak of. Thanks.

Your link: "US TAX REVENUE DROPPED SHARPLY"

A blatant lie, Brainfart.

Your numbers show the anemic growth rate I speak of. Thanks.

Your link: "US TAX REVENUE DROPPED SHARPLY"

A blatant lie, Brainfart

Your numbers show the anemic growth rate I speak of. Thanks.

Your link: "US TAX REVENUE DROPPED SHARPLY"

A blatant lie, Brainfart

Why do you keep rambling stupidly? YOUR numbers support what I have been saying. Anemic revenue growth. Lets use your numbers. Stop flailing stupidy.

Your link: "US TAX REVENUE DROPPED SHARPLY"

A blatant lie, Brainfart

 

[Billiejeens]

Remember all those tea party goons screaming about deficits? Then we got trump and he further increased deficits, but the tea party disappeared. Trump gave tax cuts. Tax cuts fuel debt. Nobody cares about the debt when they are getting tax cuts.

The first Bush increased taxes and then we took the debt seriously....

Repetitive
Boring
Wrong.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

This fucking "brain", please change your avatar.

In the real world we have this COVID thang', ever heard of it? Who is passing the trillions of dollars in waste built out of Democrat controlled house?

Who is more likely to shut every down, Democrats or Republicans?

Be a hoot if PROGS took govt. classes, perhaps some logic too, though I don't suppose it will click anyhow. Here's your college degree, now run off and fuck shit up.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

If you mean GWB. I agree.

We also just experienced it with Trump. Last year, pre pandemic our deficit was almost a trillion. Deficits increased every year under trump. But he gave tax cuts so people didn't care.

Yes and under Obama too but GW started it with his stupid Middle East crusade.

Well deficits certainly increased with Obama, but you will see they gradually declined. Had he cut taxes there would have been no decline. We can grow out of our debt, but only if we don't cut taxes.

BArry's last 3 deficits were growing, liar.

I notice you never back up all your lies. You just spew stupidity. Bravo.

Tax cuts didn’t reduce revenues. Not lies.

They reduced the revenue growth rate. Revenue growth was one of the weakest in history. And it should have been strong given the economy.

I disagree. I would Agree if the Govt spent tax revenue wisely but in my view they have proven over and over again that they do not

 

[Brain357]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

If you mean GWB. I agree.

We also just experienced it with Trump. Last year, pre pandemic our deficit was almost a trillion. Deficits increased every year under trump. But he gave tax cuts so people didn't care.

Yes and under Obama too but GW started it with his stupid Middle East crusade.

Well deficits certainly increased with Obama, but you will see they gradually declined. Had he cut taxes there would have been no decline. We can grow out of our debt, but only if we don't cut taxes.

BArry's last 3 deficits were growing, liar.

I notice you never back up all your lies. You just spew stupidity. Bravo.

Tax cuts didn’t reduce revenues. Not lies.

They reduced the revenue growth rate. Revenue growth was one of the weakest in history. And it should have been strong given the economy.

I disagree. I would Agree if the Govt spent tax revenue wisely but in my view they have proven over and over again that they do not

What do you disagree with? Revenue growth was one of the lowest in history.

 

[Brain357]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

This fucking "brain", please change your avatar.

In the real world we have this COVID thang', ever heard of it? Who is passing the trillions of dollars in waste built out of Democrat controlled house?

Who is more likely to shut every down, Democrats or Republicans?

Be a hoot if PROGS took govt. classes, perhaps some logic too, though I don't suppose it will click anyhow. Here's your college degree, now run off and fuck shit up.

I've been discussing numbers pre covid. Pay attention. Last year with all of trumps policies in place GDP growth declined and we ran a trillion dollar deficit. Pre covid.

 

[Brain357]

Did the 2017 tax cut—the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act—pay for itself? (brookings.edu)


Did the TCJA spur enough growth to maintain federal revenue levels?
While some TCJA supporters observe that nominal revenues were higher in fiscal year 2018 (which began Oct. 1, 2017) than in FY2017, that comparison does not address the question of the TCJA’s effects. Nominal revenues rise because of inflation and economic growth. Adjusted for inflation, total revenues fell from FY2017 to FY2018 (Figure 1). Adjusted for the size of the economy, they fell even more.

 

[Brain357]

Nominal revenue did increase, according to Treasury's fiscal year-end report, which shows that total federal tax revenue is up only $14 billion, or 0.4 percent, between FY 2018 and FY 2017. This revenue growth rate is the eighth lowest in the past 50 years, and the seven lower years either coincided with a recession or tax cuts/expiring tax increases enacted shortly after a recession.

The Tax Bill Did Not Cause Revenue to Rise | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (crfb.org)

 

[Brain357]

But the real point is that trump passed lots of spending increases while we had a huge debt and nobody cared cause they got a tax cut. Now try to increase taxes and increase spending. Tax payers will not be happy.

 

[Nostra]

Your link: "US TAX REVENUE DROPPED SHARPLY"

A blatant lie, Brainfart

 

[sartre play]

We did get one wage increase, if we had been raising it a dollar or so every few years business could have absorbed the increase, as the cost of living went up.Rsponsible wage earners could have held or gained ground. So why did Republicans vote against any increase? yet felt they needed a pay raise every time it came up. explain that please.