Restaurateur Defied Maine Gov To Open His Business, State Agents Are Moving To Shut Him Down

“You can’t [extend the emergency order] three days before it [expires]. It doesn’t work,” Savage said. “We had food ordered. We were making chowders and chilis and all that stuff. And we’re like, ‘No, we’re opening.’ We’re clean, we can give people social distancing, we can do it right.”

Business owners and others are expected to protest against Mills’ order in Augusta on Saturday.


And that's one of the big problems facing small businesses all across the country in the face of so many politicians' indecisiveness. Our governor's initial shut down order was set to expire at midnight on May 1st and he waited until April 30th to say he was extending it to May 15th. He got a lot of criticism for that, even by the media, surprisingly, because people don't know what to expect and can't make any plans.

In Maine's case, I can't see Janet Mills' scientific justification for extending her order another month when there have only been 55 deaths in her state and it is largely rural. It doesn't make any sense and she's making these decisions all on her own without any input from the state assembly or the business community. That is not how our government is meant to function. We don't elect monarchs. We have separation of powers for a reason. It takes a lot of courage to do what Savage is doing and I hope other businesses follow suit and open up around the state as well. Too many mayors and governors are consolidating power they arguably don't have and need to be reminded who they work for.

There is nothing unconstitutional about it. There are no separation of powers issues. The Governor has the power to do this in a emergency.
Except it isn't an emergency for Maine lol.

What a dumb statement

It's a NATIONAL EMERGENCY.

No one doubts it is a national emergency, but governors who lock down are ignorant and guilty of murder.
Clearly a lock down is irrational because it has no plan.
We can't wait 2 years for a vaccine, and that is the only way a lock down would make any sense.
No epidemic has ever been helped by a lock down, ever in the whole of human history.
Every epidemic has always only been halted by herd immunity, until the last 200 years, when vaccines became available.
 
Ultimately, the people need to raise the stakes and stop this authoritarianism. The people have the power but they're gonna have to use it or these little tin pot authoritarian governors, mayors, local officials are gonna keep pushing that boot deeper into the neck.
When south Texas floods the government should say.....you're on your own?

Is that a threat, give up your rights or else the government services you paid for are withheld?

Nobody is being asked to give up their rights. People are being asked to behave responsibility during a pandemic.

My father and older brothers were asked to quit their jobs, join the military and fight World War II and they did it without hesitation. My oldest brother carried shrapnell in his body from his wounds on Juno Beach during D-day, until the day he died. You're being asked to sit on your ass at home and you're not prepared to do that.

But shutting down the economy and preventing herd immunity does NOT aid the country.
The Lock Down saves no lives at all, but only slows down the infection rate, thus making it last longer and kill more people.
If instead we asked for volunteers, like we did in WWII, then we could deliberately infect the young and healthy with the strain of COVID that is not lethal, and have this all over in 2 weeks.
The least deaths comes from achieving 55% herd immunity as quickly as possible.
And by speeding it up, then the compromised have much less chance of accidental exposure.

1. THE USA HAS NOT SHUT DOWN. You've have pockets and districts which have shut down, but the USA has not shut down, and unless and until you do, the virus will continue to rage out of control. There has been no national shut down.

2. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF HERD IMMUNITY IN THIS DISEASE. There are numerous cases in both South Korea and Italy where individuals who have had covid19 are getting it for a second time. We won't have any information on this until testing is complete, so it may be months away before we know one way or another for certain.

3. THE GOAL WAS TO SLOW INFECTION SO THAT HOSPITALS AREN'T OVERWHELMED Ask the health care workers in the hot spot zones, what the shut down is doing for them. Hospitals in hot zones are overwhelmed. The staff are working long hours with no PPE's. Many are getting sick and more than a few have died. The USA has less than 1 million hospital beds in total, and on any given day, 700,000 of those beds are full of patients with heart attacks, cancer, and various surgeries. There are only about 300,000 beds in the USA available for this pandemic and as of this morning, you have 920,000 people sick with this virus.

Your rate of illness continues to rise. Yesterday was the worst day for death in the USA since this started. Unless and until the entire country shuts down for a least a month, stopping this virus is just going to be a game of whack-a-mole, and your economy will continue to suffer.

Here in Ontario, we shut down in early March and we haven't re-opened. Of course we had tests and PPE's from day one because we have a government who learned from SARS and H1N1, and we were ready. We never ran out and we tested everyone coming in from hot zones. Our infections took off when we called Canadians home from the USA, where the virus was already out of control, but we even succeeded in shutting those infections down.

Our "closed cases" now triple our active cases. When the Premier announced a week ago that our closed cases exceeded our active cases, he announced the schools would stay closed until June 1st.

Tomorrow, our construction industry re-opens. All workers must have face shields, masks and gloves. That's what happens when you do the smart thing and #StayTheFuckAtHome.
 
“You can’t [extend the emergency order] three days before it [expires]. It doesn’t work,” Savage said. “We had food ordered. We were making chowders and chilis and all that stuff. And we’re like, ‘No, we’re opening.’ We’re clean, we can give people social distancing, we can do it right.”

Business owners and others are expected to protest against Mills’ order in Augusta on Saturday.


And that's one of the big problems facing small businesses all across the country in the face of so many politicians' indecisiveness. Our governor's initial shut down order was set to expire at midnight on May 1st and he waited until April 30th to say he was extending it to May 15th. He got a lot of criticism for that, even by the media, surprisingly, because people don't know what to expect and can't make any plans.

In Maine's case, I can't see Janet Mills' scientific justification for extending her order another month when there have only been 55 deaths in her state and it is largely rural. It doesn't make any sense and she's making these decisions all on her own without any input from the state assembly or the business community. That is not how our government is meant to function. We don't elect monarchs. We have separation of powers for a reason. It takes a lot of courage to do what Savage is doing and I hope other businesses follow suit and open up around the state as well. Too many mayors and governors are consolidating power they arguably don't have and need to be reminded who they work for.

There is nothing unconstitutional about it. There are no separation of powers issues. The Governor has the power to do this in a emergency.
Except it isn't an emergency for Maine lol.

What a dumb statement

It's a NATIONAL EMERGENCY.

No one doubts it is a national emergency, but governors who lock down are ignorant and guilty of murder.
Clearly a lock down is irrational because it has no plan.
We can't wait 2 years for a vaccine, and that is the only way a lock down would make any sense.
No epidemic has ever been helped by a lock down, ever in the whole of human history.
Every epidemic has always only been halted by herd immunity, until the last 200 years, when vaccines became available.
The lock down no longer serves any legitimate purpose.

98.9% of the populace has little or no problems with this virus. Shelter the vulenrable and high risk and let everyone else live thier lives. Get the economy moving. We know who is vulnerable and who is at risk. We built up our hospital capacity to deal with any moderate spike in needed resources. Lets let nature build our immunitiies.
 
Since when did governors become the final arbiter of who is allowed to open and who gets prosecuted for not obeying their god like orders?
Business licenses.
Since when is operating a business illegal?

.
When you don't pay off the right people to get the right certificates, permits, and licenses.

It's all a racket.
I've applied for and received approximately 60 business licenses in the past 42 years and I've never had to "pay-off" people.
Must be nice, where do you operate?
All over the country.
 
Since when did governors become the final arbiter of who is allowed to open and who gets prosecuted for not obeying their god like orders?
Business licenses.
Yep....... of course the response to them pulling the licenses is going back to the old speakeasy model.
The vast majority of States have drive-up beer and liquor at restaurants. But you're gong to have to wait for a rub-and-tug.
I can drink for less at my home, I go to the bar to socialize.
Unfortunately your skidmark failed you like I said he would.
 
“You can’t [extend the emergency order] three days before it [expires]. It doesn’t work,” Savage said. “We had food ordered. We were making chowders and chilis and all that stuff. And we’re like, ‘No, we’re opening.’ We’re clean, we can give people social distancing, we can do it right.”

Business owners and others are expected to protest against Mills’ order in Augusta on Saturday.


And that's one of the big problems facing small businesses all across the country in the face of so many politicians' indecisiveness. Our governor's initial shut down order was set to expire at midnight on May 1st and he waited until April 30th to say he was extending it to May 15th. He got a lot of criticism for that, even by the media, surprisingly, because people don't know what to expect and can't make any plans.

In Maine's case, I can't see Janet Mills' scientific justification for extending her order another month when there have only been 55 deaths in her state and it is largely rural. It doesn't make any sense and she's making these decisions all on her own without any input from the state assembly or the business community. That is not how our government is meant to function. We don't elect monarchs. We have separation of powers for a reason. It takes a lot of courage to do what Savage is doing and I hope other businesses follow suit and open up around the state as well. Too many mayors and governors are consolidating power they arguably don't have and need to be reminded who they work for.






She needs to have a Civil RICO launched up her ass. I suggested that to Joey Gilbert up here in Carson City today at the protest that went on at the Capitol.

He did say that he would represent any business that was persecuted by sisolak pro bono.
Courts have already ruled that Governors are acting within the law in regards to emergency orders.
 
Since when did governors become the final arbiter of who is allowed to open and who gets prosecuted for not obeying their god like orders?
Business licenses.
Since when is operating a business illegal?

.
When you don't pay off the right people to get the right certificates, permits, and licenses.

It's all a racket.
I've applied for and received approximately 60 business licenses in the past 42 years and I've never had to "pay-off" people.

Video games don't count.
One time can you retort in some semblance of intelligence?
 
“You can’t [extend the emergency order] three days before it [expires]. It doesn’t work,” Savage said. “We had food ordered. We were making chowders and chilis and all that stuff. And we’re like, ‘No, we’re opening.’ We’re clean, we can give people social distancing, we can do it right.”

Business owners and others are expected to protest against Mills’ order in Augusta on Saturday.


And that's one of the big problems facing small businesses all across the country in the face of so many politicians' indecisiveness. Our governor's initial shut down order was set to expire at midnight on May 1st and he waited until April 30th to say he was extending it to May 15th. He got a lot of criticism for that, even by the media, surprisingly, because people don't know what to expect and can't make any plans.

In Maine's case, I can't see Janet Mills' scientific justification for extending her order another month when there have only been 55 deaths in her state and it is largely rural. It doesn't make any sense and she's making these decisions all on her own without any input from the state assembly or the business community. That is not how our government is meant to function. We don't elect monarchs. We have separation of powers for a reason. It takes a lot of courage to do what Savage is doing and I hope other businesses follow suit and open up around the state as well. Too many mayors and governors are consolidating power they arguably don't have and need to be reminded who they work for.


Good for them

Today no one around here was social distancing at all lol
What a beautiful day
What city and State so we can watch the virus spike.
 
“You can’t [extend the emergency order] three days before it [expires]. It doesn’t work,” Savage said. “We had food ordered. We were making chowders and chilis and all that stuff. And we’re like, ‘No, we’re opening.’ We’re clean, we can give people social distancing, we can do it right.”

Business owners and others are expected to protest against Mills’ order in Augusta on Saturday.


And that's one of the big problems facing small businesses all across the country in the face of so many politicians' indecisiveness. Our governor's initial shut down order was set to expire at midnight on May 1st and he waited until April 30th to say he was extending it to May 15th. He got a lot of criticism for that, even by the media, surprisingly, because people don't know what to expect and can't make any plans.

In Maine's case, I can't see Janet Mills' scientific justification for extending her order another month when there have only been 55 deaths in her state and it is largely rural. It doesn't make any sense and she's making these decisions all on her own without any input from the state assembly or the business community. That is not how our government is meant to function. We don't elect monarchs. We have separation of powers for a reason. It takes a lot of courage to do what Savage is doing and I hope other businesses follow suit and open up around the state as well. Too many mayors and governors are consolidating power they arguably don't have and need to be reminded who they work for.


Good for them

Today no one around here was social distancing at all lol
What a beautiful day
I met some new folks at the gun range this morning, shook hands and everything, lol.
I hope you stay healthy. If you don't, please don't make your family and friends sick by your irresponsible actions.
 
He is a traitor to his community, country and human civilisation itself.

Throw him in prison.
Pretty much every bad thing that happens in life is made worse by people who think like you.

COVID 19 ain't the disease that should keep folks up nights, people like you are.


Go take a nap on some train tracks why don't you?
Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and pay a visit to relative of someone that has died due to COVID-19.
 
“You can’t [extend the emergency order] three days before it [expires]. It doesn’t work,” Savage said. “We had food ordered. We were making chowders and chilis and all that stuff. And we’re like, ‘No, we’re opening.’ We’re clean, we can give people social distancing, we can do it right.”

Business owners and others are expected to protest against Mills’ order in Augusta on Saturday.


And that's one of the big problems facing small businesses all across the country in the face of so many politicians' indecisiveness. Our governor's initial shut down order was set to expire at midnight on May 1st and he waited until April 30th to say he was extending it to May 15th. He got a lot of criticism for that, even by the media, surprisingly, because people don't know what to expect and can't make any plans.

In Maine's case, I can't see Janet Mills' scientific justification for extending her order another month when there have only been 55 deaths in her state and it is largely rural. It doesn't make any sense and she's making these decisions all on her own without any input from the state assembly or the business community. That is not how our government is meant to function. We don't elect monarchs. We have separation of powers for a reason. It takes a lot of courage to do what Savage is doing and I hope other businesses follow suit and open up around the state as well. Too many mayors and governors are consolidating power they arguably don't have and need to be reminded who they work for.
/——-/ Libtards applaud their tyrant Governors while in the same breath call Trump a dictator and blame him for the crashed economy.
I have four bipartisan MOC's that prove your skidmark crashed the economy.
 
“You can’t [extend the emergency order] three days before it [expires]. It doesn’t work,” Savage said. “We had food ordered. We were making chowders and chilis and all that stuff. And we’re like, ‘No, we’re opening.’ We’re clean, we can give people social distancing, we can do it right.”

Business owners and others are expected to protest against Mills’ order in Augusta on Saturday.


And that's one of the big problems facing small businesses all across the country in the face of so many politicians' indecisiveness. Our governor's initial shut down order was set to expire at midnight on May 1st and he waited until April 30th to say he was extending it to May 15th. He got a lot of criticism for that, even by the media, surprisingly, because people don't know what to expect and can't make any plans.

In Maine's case, I can't see Janet Mills' scientific justification for extending her order another month when there have only been 55 deaths in her state and it is largely rural. It doesn't make any sense and she's making these decisions all on her own without any input from the state assembly or the business community. That is not how our government is meant to function. We don't elect monarchs. We have separation of powers for a reason. It takes a lot of courage to do what Savage is doing and I hope other businesses follow suit and open up around the state as well. Too many mayors and governors are consolidating power they arguably don't have and need to be reminded who they work for.
Well, the guy LIED about the governor telling him 3 days before the shutdown was to end, that it was not going to end....

lied lied lied

Around April 15th, two weeks before May 1st, the governor extended the stay at home orders to May 15th.

56 deaths with only around 1100 confirmed cases.... SHOWS that Maine does not have the tests and reagents and swabs to run the testing in any meaningful manner....

the state shows running at a 5% death rate.....!!!!!!!!!! Which is way way way way way higher than the 1% death rate or 0.5% death rate that they estimate this virus to be running....

Our problem in Maine is we do not know how many COVID infections we have in the state.... they are running blind.... hard to make any decisions on reopening or staying shuttered, without knowing how the virus is spreading.

We also have a very unusual situation, with half the homes in the state are owned or occupied in the summer only, they are vacation homes of a gazillion people from out of State, like New Yorkers and Mass-holes..... both areas inundated with the virus.....

And people in those regions with their shutdowns, hightailed it out of Dodge and came here, to their summer homes in Maine..... likely bringing the virus with them... We had a 40% increase in April, of people from other states coming here to their vacation homes....

Until we get enough testing, the governor will have to make some hard decisions....

Here is a link of one of my posts mentioning the extension of stay at home on April 22

WOW! "56 deaths with only around 1100 confirmed cases?" Not enough dead Americans for ya? Commie!
 
There is nothing unconstitutional about it. There are no separation of powers issues. The Governor has the power to do this in a emergency.

I'm not familiar with the Maine state constitution and I doubt you are either, hence the reason I specifically said "power they arguably don't have." Nonetheless, an emergency does not give them unlimited power to do what ever it is they want. There are limits.
Not according to that Michigan Court. That judge seems to think any "emergency" give government unlimited power with no level of scrutiny whatsoever.

The Michigan court ruled that the Governor was working within the law. How To Think About Government Emergency Powers

A Michigan gov't employee rules that a Michigan gov't employee is within the law. Color me shocked.
 
He is a traitor to his community, country and human civilisation itself.

Throw him in prison.
Pretty much every bad thing that happens in life is made worse by people who think like you.

COVID 19 ain't the disease that should keep folks up nights, people like you are.


Go take a nap on some train tracks why don't you?


Yes, this is not a serious virus.

It is all a conspiracy to take a freedom you are too much of a half wit to use in any constructive manner to help humanity in the first place.


The saving grace of all this is you are probably one of the Amuuuurican monkies who will probably get it and die.

If there is a God that is.

Do not be offended, there is no God so you are safe.

If not from the virus, blissful ignorance of fear of what it really is.
I know what it is, I work in an ER.

I know exactly how dangerous it is, and to who, and I also know how dangerous this lockdown is, to all of us, and how much damage it is causing.

I stand by what I said.

Go find some tracks.
 
Since when did governors become the final arbiter of who is allowed to open and who gets prosecuted for not obeying their god like orders?
Business licenses.
Since when is operating a business illegal?

.
When you don't pay off the right people to get the right certificates, permits, and licenses.

It's all a racket.
I've applied for and received approximately 60 business licenses in the past 42 years and I've never had to "pay-off" people.
Must be nice, where do you operate?
All over the country.
Yeah, I don't believe you.
 
A state of emergency isn't declared when south Texas floods?
:laughing0301:

Completely opposite situation. The Texas governor made declarations because of the damage caused by a natural disaster so that FEMA would help with money for repairs so people could get back to living a normal life.
Money to buy food? Money to sustain businesses? Money to pay rent?

There is nothing wrong with asking for or getting temporary emergency money for food, businesses, rent, etc.
But it is illegal to declare martial law that prevents people from earning money for food, wages, rent, etc., when there are not lives at stake.
And all the models say the Lock Down does not save a single life.
They all say the Lock Down only slows the infection rate down, preventing herd immunity, thus increasing the total number of deaths.
You started off well, then you jumped off the high dive with no water in the pool.

-Who declared "Marshall Law?"

-I'm on self-quarantine, I'm not sick, lock down works.
 
He is a traitor to his community, country and human civilisation itself.

Throw him in prison.
Pretty much every bad thing that happens in life is made worse by people who think like you.

COVID 19 ain't the disease that should keep folks up nights, people like you are.


Go take a nap on some train tracks why don't you?
Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and pay a visit to relative of someone that has died due to COVID-19.
Every time you Karens start invoking the families of the dead it sounds like the whining and sniveling of petulant children, pissed at not getting their way, lol.


Pathetic.
 
Since when did governors become the final arbiter of who is allowed to open and who gets prosecuted for not obeying their god like orders?
Business licenses.
Yep....... of course the response to them pulling the licenses is going back to the old speakeasy model.
The vast majority of States have drive-up beer and liquor at restaurants. But you're gong to have to wait for a rub-and-tug.

The majority of businesses are still closed by illegal governor decree.
Lawyers, real estate, hair dressers, clothing stores, etc., are all closed by edict.
That is way beyond the legal authority of any governor.
Governors only have the power to make law by executive order if the legislature can't convene.
-I have an Attorney. We talk, not closed.
-Walmart sell clothes, they are open. Target sells clothes, they are open.
It is legal in all 50 States for Governors to make emergency orders. Courts have already sustained challenges.
 
“You can’t [extend the emergency order] three days before it [expires]. It doesn’t work,” Savage said. “We had food ordered. We were making chowders and chilis and all that stuff. And we’re like, ‘No, we’re opening.’ We’re clean, we can give people social distancing, we can do it right.”

Business owners and others are expected to protest against Mills’ order in Augusta on Saturday.


And that's one of the big problems facing small businesses all across the country in the face of so many politicians' indecisiveness. Our governor's initial shut down order was set to expire at midnight on May 1st and he waited until April 30th to say he was extending it to May 15th. He got a lot of criticism for that, even by the media, surprisingly, because people don't know what to expect and can't make any plans.

In Maine's case, I can't see Janet Mills' scientific justification for extending her order another month when there have only been 55 deaths in her state and it is largely rural. It doesn't make any sense and she's making these decisions all on her own without any input from the state assembly or the business community. That is not how our government is meant to function. We don't elect monarchs. We have separation of powers for a reason. It takes a lot of courage to do what Savage is doing and I hope other businesses follow suit and open up around the state as well. Too many mayors and governors are consolidating power they arguably don't have and need to be reminded who they work for.

There is nothing unconstitutional about it. There are no separation of powers issues. The Governor has the power to do this in a emergency.
Except it isn't an emergency for Maine lol.

What a dumb statement

It's a NATIONAL EMERGENCY.

No one doubts it is a national emergency, but governors who lock down are ignorant and guilty of murder.
Clearly a lock down is irrational because it has no plan.
We can't wait 2 years for a vaccine, and that is the only way a lock down would make any sense.
No epidemic has ever been helped by a lock down, ever in the whole of human history.
Every epidemic has always only been halted by herd immunity, until the last 200 years, when vaccines became available.
The only one guilty of murder is your skidmark. I have four bipartisan MOC's that prove that.
 

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