Rome fell, will we also fall?

[Gracie]

Rome fell, will we also fall?


Yes.

 

[Avatar4321]

Pride always comes before the fall. The solution is humility

 

[rightwinger]

and to think that "The 47 Per-cent" actually believe the free money is forever. someday the checks will stop coming.

The 47 percent believe they deserve a slice of the pie and the American Dream

This is what will lead to the downfall of the U.S. empire. Diminishing wealth among the masses as the privileged few hoard all available resources

It is what brings down most empires

 

[Mac1958]

Pride always comes before the fall. The solution is humility

Indeed.

But our culture has gone in precisely the opposite direction.

.

 

[Redfish]

and to think that "The 47 Per-cent" actually believe the free money is forever. someday the checks will stop coming.

The 47 percent believe they deserve a slice of the pie and the American Dream

This is what will lead to the downfall of the U.S. empire. Diminishing wealth among the masses as the privileged few hoard all available resources

It is what brings down most empires

 

[rightwinger]

and to think that "The 47 Per-cent" actually believe the free money is forever. someday the checks will stop coming.

The 47 percent believe they deserve a slice of the pie and the American Dream

This is what will lead to the downfall of the U.S. empire. Diminishing wealth among the masses as the privileged few hoard all available resources

It is what brings down most empires

What made your OP so ludicrous was your assertion that a society taking care of its people somehow leads to its demise

In fact, the opposite is true

Ignoring the masses will lead to a societies demise

 

[Redfish]

and to think that "The 47 Per-cent" actually believe the free money is forever. someday the checks will stop coming.

The 47 percent believe they deserve a slice of the pie and the American Dream

This is what will lead to the downfall of the U.S. empire. Diminishing wealth among the masses as the privileged few hoard all available resources

It is what brings down most empires

and to think that "The 47 Per-cent" actually believe the free money is forever. someday the checks will stop coming.

The 47 percent believe they deserve a slice of the pie and the American Dream

This is what will lead to the downfall of the U.S. empire. Diminishing wealth among the masses as the privileged few hoard all available resources

It is what brings down most empires

The 47% have their slice, and its being provided free by the other 53%. And, for the record, there are more liberals in the top 1% than there are conservatives.

progressive ideologies always put all of the wealth and all of the power in a very small group of super elites and everyone else is kept in EQUAL misery as long as they do and think as directed by the elite few.

You have no idea what you are asking for.

 

[Redfish]

and to think that "The 47 Per-cent" actually believe the free money is forever. someday the checks will stop coming.

The 47 percent believe they deserve a slice of the pie and the American Dream

This is what will lead to the downfall of the U.S. empire. Diminishing wealth among the masses as the privileged few hoard all available resources

It is what brings down most empires

What made your OP so ludicrous was your assertion that a society taking care of its people somehow leads to its demise

In fact, the opposite is true

Ignoring the masses will lead to a societies demise

Those who cannot care for themselves should be cared for by society as a whole. Those who are able to work, should work.

The Robin Hood theory sounds great until Robin ends up with all the money and declares himself king.

 

[occupied]

and to think that "The 47 Per-cent" actually believe the free money is forever. someday the checks will stop coming.

The 47 percent believe they deserve a slice of the pie and the American Dream

This is what will lead to the downfall of the U.S. empire. Diminishing wealth among the masses as the privileged few hoard all available resources

It is what brings down most empires

and to think that "The 47 Per-cent" actually believe the free money is forever. someday the checks will stop coming.

The 47 percent believe they deserve a slice of the pie and the American Dream

This is what will lead to the downfall of the U.S. empire. Diminishing wealth among the masses as the privileged few hoard all available resources

It is what brings down most empires

The 47% have their slice, and its being provided free by the other 53%. And, for the record, there are more liberals in the top 1% than there are conservatives.

progressive ideologies always put all of the wealth and all of the power in a very small group of super elites and everyone else is kept in EQUAL misery as long as they do and think as directed by the elite few.

You have no idea what you are asking for.

Remember this post next time you are throwing your weight behind the wealthy and accusing the left of class warfare.

 

[Redfish]

I would like for all of my friends (and enemies) on the left to carefully read the Cicero quote in the OP.

He is talking about liberalism and the dangers it creates. Its not partisan its ideological. Read, think.

Cicero never said the quote in the OP, dumbass. It's from a work of fiction written in 1956.

Think.

There were some ver batem translation issues, but the message of the quote has been verified as accurate.

 

[deltex1]

The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced, if the nation doesn't want to go bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.

Cicero (106 BC - 43 BC), 55 BC

have we learned nothing in 2070 years? have we learned nothing from history? Sadly, the answer seems to be yes, we have learned nothing.

Rome fell because of too many Italians. We have a plethora of Neeeeegroes in Obamaworld who can save us.

 

[Redfish]

and to think that "The 47 Per-cent" actually believe the free money is forever. someday the checks will stop coming.

The 47 percent believe they deserve a slice of the pie and the American Dream

This is what will lead to the downfall of the U.S. empire. Diminishing wealth among the masses as the privileged few hoard all available resources

It is what brings down most empires

and to think that "The 47 Per-cent" actually believe the free money is forever. someday the checks will stop coming.

The 47 percent believe they deserve a slice of the pie and the American Dream

This is what will lead to the downfall of the U.S. empire. Diminishing wealth among the masses as the privileged few hoard all available resources

It is what brings down most empires

The 47% have their slice, and its being provided free by the other 53%. And, for the record, there are more liberals in the top 1% than there are conservatives.

progressive ideologies always put all of the wealth and all of the power in a very small group of super elites and everyone else is kept in EQUAL misery as long as they do and think as directed by the elite few.

You have no idea what you are asking for.

Remember this post next time you are throwing your weight behind the wealthy and accusing the left of class warfare.

are you claiming that obama, the libs, and the dems have not been engaging in class warfare? Really ??

 

[Redfish]

The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced, if the nation doesn't want to go bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.

Cicero (106 BC - 43 BC), 55 BC

have we learned nothing in 2070 years? have we learned nothing from history? Sadly, the answer seems to be yes, we have learned nothing.

Rome fell because of too many Italians. We have a plethora of Neeeeegroes in Obamaworld who can save us.

too much vino

 

[rightwinger]

and to think that "The 47 Per-cent" actually believe the free money is forever. someday the checks will stop coming.

The 47 percent believe they deserve a slice of the pie and the American Dream

This is what will lead to the downfall of the U.S. empire. Diminishing wealth among the masses as the privileged few hoard all available resources

It is what brings down most empires

and to think that "The 47 Per-cent" actually believe the free money is forever. someday the checks will stop coming.

The 47 percent believe they deserve a slice of the pie and the American Dream

This is what will lead to the downfall of the U.S. empire. Diminishing wealth among the masses as the privileged few hoard all available resources

It is what brings down most empires

The 47% have their slice, and its being provided free by the other 53%. And, for the record, there are more liberals in the top 1% than there are conservatives.

progressive ideologies always put all of the wealth and all of the power in a very small group of super elites and everyone else is kept in EQUAL misery as long as they do and think as directed by the elite few.

You have no idea what you are asking for.

Did you see that slice?

Two TENTHS of a percent for 40% of the country?

That is what you are proposing cutting back on while ignoring the 5% controlling 62% of the wealth

THAT is what will lead to a societies collapse

 

[rightwinger]

and to think that "The 47 Per-cent" actually believe the free money is forever. someday the checks will stop coming.

The 47 percent believe they deserve a slice of the pie and the American Dream

This is what will lead to the downfall of the U.S. empire. Diminishing wealth among the masses as the privileged few hoard all available resources

It is what brings down most empires

What made your OP so ludicrous was your assertion that a society taking care of its people somehow leads to its demise

In fact, the opposite is true

Ignoring the masses will lead to a societies demise

Those who cannot care for themselves should be cared for by society as a whole. Those who are able to work, should work.

The Robin Hood theory sounds great until Robin ends up with all the money and declares himself king.

Agree

Where are all those trickle down jobs?

 

[occupied]

The 47 percent believe they deserve a slice of the pie and the American Dream

This is what will lead to the downfall of the U.S. empire. Diminishing wealth among the masses as the privileged few hoard all available resources

It is what brings down most empires

and to think that "The 47 Per-cent" actually believe the free money is forever. someday the checks will stop coming.

The 47 percent believe they deserve a slice of the pie and the American Dream

This is what will lead to the downfall of the U.S. empire. Diminishing wealth among the masses as the privileged few hoard all available resources

It is what brings down most empires

The 47% have their slice, and its being provided free by the other 53%. And, for the record, there are more liberals in the top 1% than there are conservatives.

progressive ideologies always put all of the wealth and all of the power in a very small group of super elites and everyone else is kept in EQUAL misery as long as they do and think as directed by the elite few.

You have no idea what you are asking for.

Remember this post next time you are throwing your weight behind the wealthy and accusing the left of class warfare.

are you claiming that obama, the libs, and the dems have not been engaging in class warfare? Really ??

According to your earlier post the plutocrats are mostly liberals and the income inequality is all a progressive plot but you and others are quick to jump to the plutocrat's defense when progressives try to address it's corrosive effects on society. It didn't make sense to me so I was wondering if you could enlighten us with further explanation.

 

[Redfish]

and to think that "The 47 Per-cent" actually believe the free money is forever. someday the checks will stop coming.

The 47 percent believe they deserve a slice of the pie and the American Dream

This is what will lead to the downfall of the U.S. empire. Diminishing wealth among the masses as the privileged few hoard all available resources

It is what brings down most empires

and to think that "The 47 Per-cent" actually believe the free money is forever. someday the checks will stop coming.

The 47 percent believe they deserve a slice of the pie and the American Dream

This is what will lead to the downfall of the U.S. empire. Diminishing wealth among the masses as the privileged few hoard all available resources

It is what brings down most empires

The 47% have their slice, and its being provided free by the other 53%. And, for the record, there are more liberals in the top 1% than there are conservatives.

progressive ideologies always put all of the wealth and all of the power in a very small group of super elites and everyone else is kept in EQUAL misery as long as they do and think as directed by the elite few.

You have no idea what you are asking for.

Did you see that slice?

Two TENTHS of a percent for 40% of the country?

That is what you are proposing cutting back on while ignoring the 5% controlling 62% of the wealth

THAT is what will lead to a societies collapse

Pay attention: I do not favor a situation where a small % of the population controls a large % of the money or the power.

You favor liberal, progressive systems which always result in exactly the situation that you say is wrong and dangerous.

We in the USA have been moving towards socialism since FDR and look at what has happened to wealth distribution.

As I said, you have no idea what you are asking for.

If you really want a more fair distribution of wealth and income, freedom and free markets is the answer, not more government manipulation.

 

[Redfish]

The 47 percent believe they deserve a slice of the pie and the American Dream

This is what will lead to the downfall of the U.S. empire. Diminishing wealth among the masses as the privileged few hoard all available resources

It is what brings down most empires

What made your OP so ludicrous was your assertion that a society taking care of its people somehow leads to its demise

In fact, the opposite is true

Ignoring the masses will lead to a societies demise

Those who cannot care for themselves should be cared for by society as a whole. Those who are able to work, should work.

The Robin Hood theory sounds great until Robin ends up with all the money and declares himself king.

Agree

Where are all those trickle down jobs?

China, central america, mexico, india, pakistan. Any idea why your underwear is made in costa rica instead of south carolina where you parents underwear was made?

 

[Redfish]

This is what will lead to the downfall of the U.S. empire. Diminishing wealth among the masses as the privileged few hoard all available resources

It is what brings down most empires

The 47 percent believe they deserve a slice of the pie and the American Dream

This is what will lead to the downfall of the U.S. empire. Diminishing wealth among the masses as the privileged few hoard all available resources

It is what brings down most empires

The 47% have their slice, and its being provided free by the other 53%. And, for the record, there are more liberals in the top 1% than there are conservatives.

progressive ideologies always put all of the wealth and all of the power in a very small group of super elites and everyone else is kept in EQUAL misery as long as they do and think as directed by the elite few.

You have no idea what you are asking for.

Remember this post next time you are throwing your weight behind the wealthy and accusing the left of class warfare.

are you claiming that obama, the libs, and the dems have not been engaging in class warfare? Really ??

According to your earlier post the plutocrats are mostly liberals and the income inequality is all a progressive plot but you and others are quick to jump to the plutocrat's defense when progressives try to address it's corrosive effects on society. It didn't make sense to me so I was wondering if you could enlighten us with further explanation.

Taking away freedom is a progressive tenet. plutocracy is a socialist system. The problems you claim to be so worried about are the direct result of our move towards socialism over the last 100 years or so

 

[occupied]

This is what will lead to the downfall of the U.S. empire. Diminishing wealth among the masses as the privileged few hoard all available resources

It is what brings down most empires

The 47% have their slice, and its being provided free by the other 53%. And, for the record, there are more liberals in the top 1% than there are conservatives.

progressive ideologies always put all of the wealth and all of the power in a very small group of super elites and everyone else is kept in EQUAL misery as long as they do and think as directed by the elite few.

You have no idea what you are asking for.

Remember this post next time you are throwing your weight behind the wealthy and accusing the left of class warfare.

are you claiming that obama, the libs, and the dems have not been engaging in class warfare? Really ??

According to your earlier post the plutocrats are mostly liberals and the income inequality is all a progressive plot but you and others are quick to jump to the plutocrat's defense when progressives try to address it's corrosive effects on society. It didn't make sense to me so I was wondering if you could enlighten us with further explanation.

Taking away freedom is a progressive tenet. plutocracy is a socialist system. The problems you claim to be so worried about are the direct result of our move towards socialism over the last 100 years or so

The problems we have are a direct result of instituting "free market" trade policy since about 1980 or so. Most of our industrial base left to chase cheap slave labor around the developing world and no one on the right did a god damned thing to prevent it, in fact they facilitated it to a degree that could be considered economic treason if such a concept existed in conservative dogma.