Round up the Dissenters

[Bobob]

Your party let it go on all summer calling them peaceful protest.

No they did not call them peaceful. They may have preached that the protests started out to be peaceful and then deteriorated. That would be the same as the trumpers calling the insurrection of Jan 6 a peaceful protest, and we know that is not the case.

 

[Bobob]

He was going to withhold aid if they didn't do as he wanted.

He openly announced that our government would withhold aid, not him personally, and there were 40 other nations represented. Trump was withholding aid for personal reasons, and that was illegal and certainly immoral. Trump is lacking in moral compass--much needed in a president.

 

[jknowgood]

No they did not call them peaceful. They may have preached that the protests started out to be peaceful and then deteriorated. That would be the same as the trumpers calling the insurrection of Jan 6 a peaceful protest, and we know that is not the case.

Nope they called them peaceful protest.

 

[jknowgood]

He openly announced that our government would withhold aid, not him personally, and there were 40 other nations represented. Trump was withholding aid for personal reasons, and that was illegal and certainly immoral. Trump is lacking in moral compass--much needed in a president.

Biden is lacking a brain and it shows in all of his failures.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

As a result of the insurrection, 6 people died due to their defense of the Capitol. Whether it was in the building or after the siege ended is inconsequential. One was a Tump supporter who was acting out. The others, whether or not they supported the man on the moon, were defending the Capitol.
You want to make lite of it, then go for it. History will see it differently. "Ammoland.com." Really?

Only 1 Cop died and that was natural causes and happened the day after the riot. all the rest were civilians and were in fact NOT defending the capitol.

 

[Bobob]

Nope they called them peaceful protest.

Nope they called them peaceful protests that turned violent.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Once again we hear the lying dumb fuck "Conservatives" accusing others of what they are doing. It is not liberals bringing guns to school board meetings and threatening other parents. It is the Trumpanzess. It was not liberals that invaded the Capital and vandalized and smeared shit all over it, is was the "Conservatives". Yes, the FBI and all other law enforcement agencies should be all over this, and the violent people should be in jail, with no jobs when they get out.

Link to any time someone brought an illegal firearm to a school board meeting.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Only 1 Cop died and that was natural causes and happened the day after the riot. all the rest were civilians and were in fact NOT defending the capitol.

You can disagree all you want the FACTS are as I stated or perhaps you can link to these dead defenders?

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

He openly announced that our government would withhold aid, not him personally, and there were 40 other nations represented. Trump was withholding aid for personal reasons, and that was illegal and certainly immoral. Trump is lacking in moral compass--much needed in a president.

About that "40 other nations" claim. I challenged that nonsense once. How about documenting in some way
your fantastic claim. Name the forty other nations.

Forty nations were all out for Viktor Shokin's hide because he was corrupt? As opposed to what else
in Ukraine, Russia and ex Soviet bloc nations?

As usual the tales from partisans winds up far away from the real story.

Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden’s Ukraine story

Hundreds of pages of never-released memos and documents – many from inside the American team helping Burisma to stave off its legal troubles – conflict with Joe Biden’s nar…

thehill.com

The story is quite complex. Too complex for a partisan troll. The IMF and Ukraine

https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/110331/documents/HMKP-116-JU00-20191211-SD067.pdf

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Horse shit. Descent all you want to descent. Just do NOT act out violently. That is the issue.

How many school administrators and officials have been violently attacked?

 

[Batcat]

Trump was moved to a bunker as a precaution. The insurrection was, in my view, as serious as those 2 events in that the idea was to overthrow a duly elected government. In terms of people killed, it was not as serious.

I continue to believe it was a rowdy mob of overenthusiastic Trump supporters. If a coup had been planned there would be evidence of fore planning and a good number of the protestors would have carried firearms.

Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources

The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

www.reuters.com

WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations.

"Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. "Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages."

BREAKING: FBI official testifies that no guns were recovered from those arrested at the Jan. 6 Capitol siege

FBI assistant director for counterterrorism Jill Sanborn confirmed in a Senate hearing that no guns were recovered during the Capitol protests on Jan 6

www.lawenforcementtoday.com

 

[Bobob]

I continue to believe it was a rowdy mob of overenthusiastic Trump supporters. If a coup had been planned there would be evidence of fore planning and a good number of the protestors would have carried firearms.

Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources

The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

www.reuters.com

WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations.

"Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. "Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages."

BREAKING: FBI official testifies that no guns were recovered from those arrested at the Jan. 6 Capitol siege

FBI assistant director for counterterrorism Jill Sanborn confirmed in a Senate hearing that no guns were recovered during the Capitol protests on Jan 6

www.lawenforcementtoday.com

We will find out, yes? Those trump people who were subpoenaed and refused to honor them
Speak volumes.

 

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

Nope they called them peaceful protests that turned violent.

Lol. Your a moron.

 

[Batcat]

Only 1 Cop died and that was natural causes and happened the day after the riot. all the rest were civilians and were in fact NOT defending the capitol.

Liberals often get false info from the news outlets they watch and continue to beleive it even when it is proven wrong. A good number still believe Trump colluded with Putin to beat Hillary while it was Hillary who was colluding with foreigners to create a false story about Trump.

We will find out, yes? Those trump people who were subpoenaed and refused to honor them
Speak volumes.

So you imagine those people will testify that Trump planned to overthrow the government with just a bunch of rowdy protestors without firearms.

As Joe Biden would say, …

 

[Bobob]

Lol. Your a moron.

This particular moron has not ever met or heard about anyone who supports violence, except for morons like you and your ilk who preach that the insurrection of Jan 6 was a peaceful protest, yes?

 

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

This particular moron has not ever met or heard about anyone who supports violence, except for morons like you and your ilk who preach that the insurrection of Jan 6 was a peaceful protest, yes?

A field trip .

 

[surada]

He was going to withhold aid if they didn't do as he wanted.

You don't know what you're talking about again.

Shokin was appointed Prosecutor General of Ukraine on 10 February 2015, replacing Vitaly Yarema. He was a controversial appointee due to his perceived role in blocking prosecutions against those accused of shooting demonstrators in the 2014 Ukrainian revolution.

Viktor Shokin - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Shokin
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Shokin

 

[dudmuck]

Back your statements up with links as I did.Note that reports immediately after the event were often inaccurate as usual.

Aftermath of the January 6 United States Capitol attack - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Deaths[edit]​

As lawmakers were being evacuated by Capitol Police, Ashli Elizabeth Babbitt, a 35-year-old Air Force veteran, attempted to climb through a shattered window in a barricaded door and was shot in the shoulder by Lt. Michael Leroy Byrd, dying from the wound.[16][17][18] The shooting was recorded on several cameras.[18][16] Capitol Police officers had been warned that many attackers were carrying concealed weapons, although a subsequent search revealed no weapons in Babbitt's possession.[19][20] In the minutes before she was shot, the crowd had threatened police. A fellow rally attendee who was right near Babbitt recalled she had been warned not to proceed through the window: "A number of police and Secret Service were saying 'Get back! Get down! Get out of the way!'; she didn't heed the call..."[21] Republican Representative Markwayne Mullin said he witnessed the shooting; he felt that Lt. Byrd "didn't have a choice" but to shoot, and that this action "saved people's lives".[22][23] According to Mullin, at the time, law enforcement was trying to "defend two fronts" to the House Chamber from the "mob", and "a lot of members [of Congress] and staff that were in danger at the time".[22][24] Zachary Jordan Alam (who was standing next to Babbitt) was videotaped smashing the glass window that Babbitt tried to climb through.[25][26] He was later indicted on twelve federal counts, including assaulting officers with a dangerous weapon.[25] Following the routine process for shootings by Capitol Police officers, the D.C. Metropolitan Police Department and the Justice Department investigated Babbitt's death and declined to charge Lt. Byrd.[25][27][28] Babbitt was a follower of the QAnon conspiracy theory, and had tweeted the previous day "the storm is here", a reference to its prophecy.[24][29][30][31][32] She has been called a martyr by some far-right extremists who view her as a freedom fighter.[33]

Three other Trump supporters also died: Rosanne Boyland, 34, of Kennesaw, Georgia, Kevin Greeson, 55, from Athens, Alabama, and Benjamin Philips, 50, of Bloomsburg, Pennsylvania.[34][35][36] Boyland was a radicalized follower of QAnon whose family had begged her not to attend.[37] Initially thought to have been trampled to death by the crowd, she was later confirmed to have died of an amphetamine overdose during the riot.[38] Her death was classified as accidental by the D.C. medical examiner's office.[39] Greeson reportedly had a heart attack outdoors on the Capitol grounds, and was declared dead at 2:05 p.m., shortly before the breach of the Capitol.[40][41] He had become a radicalized Trump supporter in the preceding years; in December 2020, he declared: "Let's take this fucking Country BACK!! Load your guns and take to the streets!"[40] His family said he was "not there to participate in violence or rioting, nor did he condone such actions".[42] Philips was initially reported to have died of a stroke after splitting from his group at 10:30 in the morning.[41] There is no indication that he had participated in the storming.[43][44] Philips was the founder of Trumparoo.com, a social media page for Trump supporters, and he made arrangements for fellow supporters to travel to D.C.[43]Greeson and Philips' deaths were later confirmed to be natural deaths from both coronary heart disease and hypertensive heart disease, ruled the D.C. medical examiner's office.[39]

Brian Sicknick, a United States Capitol Police officer, died on January 7, 2021, the day after he responded to the storming of the Capitol. He was pepper-sprayed during the riot, and had two thromboembolic strokes the next day,[46][47] after which he was placed on life support,[48] and soon died.[49][50] The District of Columbia chief medical examiner found that Sicknick had died from stroke, classifying his death as natural, whereby a death is "not hastened by an injury",[51] and additionally commented that "all that transpired played a role in his condition."[52][53] His body lay in honor in the Capitol Rotunda, before his cremated remains were buried with full honors at Arlington National Cemetery.[54] In the intervening period prior to the chief examiner's ruling, the cause of Sicknick's death was subject to confusion and controversy. Within hours of his death, the Capitol Police released a statement that the death was "due to injuries sustained while on-duty", when he was "physically engaging with protesters" at the Capitol.[55] The next day, the U.S. Justice Department attributed the death "to the injuries he suffered defending the U.S. Capitol, against the violent mob who stormed it".[56] Meanwhile, media, citing law enforcement sources, incorrectly reported for weeks that Sicknick had died after being struck in the head with a fire extinguisher during the unrest.[52][57][58] Brian Sicknick's death was investigated by the Metropolitan Police Department's Homicide Branch, the USCP, and the FBI.[50] On March 14, two men were arrested and charged with nine counts each, including three assaults with a deadly weapon (chemical spray).[59] Neither of the two men have been charged with causing Sicknick's death.[47][60][61][62]
Four police officers who defended the capitol during the riot have subsequently died by suicide.

 

[Bobob]

Nope they called them peaceful protest.

Nope, they called them peaceful protests that turned violent.

 

[Batcat]

So you are contending that one little unarmed woman crawling through a broken window in a locked door posed such a significant threat to the cops and the Congress critters they were protecting that it was absouletely necessary that she was shot. She was obviously a super woman.

Perhaps the cop should be presented with an award for his bravery and his courage. Perhaps the Congressional Gold Medal.