Sandy Hook A Hoax?...

[freedombecki]

Who have i bullied off the forum? And you know, if I didn't have fun pointing out your childish behavior (as if everyone can't see it) I would simply ignore you.

But you and shitforbrains are so much entertainment.

Now I ask you again, what is it about Sandy hook that makes you disbelieve the official investigation?

If there is nothing then why are you here?

Not only have you not bullied people off the forum, SFC Ollie, you state the facts and request proof for a claim that contradicts the evidence that is known.

Thanks for making USMB a more responsible forum.

troll becki should start her own comedy club show.this is the funniest and most untruthful post i can EVER recall seeing at this site before being posted.

Aw. Is my little pincushion needling you?

 

[paulitician]

You say the bolded, after starting your sentence with "You dumbass Big Brother buttsniffers".

You're just messing with us, aren't you? This much self-satire has to be intentional.

Aw, piss off Nazi creep. Now you're just playing dawgshit and Ollie's tired old game. Attack and insult first, then claim it was the victim who attacked and insulted first. But i got no time for that tired game anymore. You assholes have ruined the Forum, but i think i'll stick around anyway. I love kicking Nazi creep ass. But gotta catch some Football now. So, Heil Big Brother! Enjoy your trolling.

yeah that's funny how they always act like they are the victems.they attack you with one liners and when you insult back,they whine about it like the nazi trolls they are.

Yeah, it's old stale chit now. They've been doing it for a long time. They killed the Forum. Used to be a great place to discuss all possibilities and question Government. Most just got bored and sick of the standard troll 'Tinfoil Hat'/'You live in your Mother's basement' ridicule shite. They just moved on. It's all about the bullying. But hey, that's all they know. Defend Big Brother at all costs, right?

But I still hang around a bit, just to rip some Nazi Bully ass. Bullies can't deal with getting bullied themselves. They freak and start crying like little babies. A couple of em are even resorting to Neg-Rep Stalking now. I think it's hilarious. So I think i'll keep it up. lol. But there's no point debating anymore. Their minds are made up. If Government and the Idiot Box say it's so, than that's that. They'll never accept or consider any info other than what they're fed by Government and the Idiot Box. It is what it is. But it is sad they had to kill the Forum. That wasn't necessary.

 

[paulitician]

And Pauline follows along instead of thinking or doing her own research...as per normal....

I wished i was paid for this, you fools make it so easy.....

The fact you're not being paid to shill for Government, is even more sad & pathetic. Nothing to boast about there dipshit.

Dude Gomer Ollie VERY much so is being paid by the government to troll these boards.

I'm not sure about that. It could be though. Who knows these days? Government does pay Internet Trolls to shill. That has been proven. But i tend to think it's more about Ollie just being a broken ole loyal Bootlicker. He was broken in the Military. All he knows is obeying his Master. Big Brother says jump, he says how high? All of his curiosity and will to question, was beaten out of him as a young man in the Military. He simply obeys. That's all he knows. I think it's as simple as that. But i wouldn't be surprised if there are others here who are being paid to Troll. Sadly, such is life in the American Police State.

 

[daws101]

aw, piss off nazi creep. Now you're just playing dawgshit and ollie's tired old game. Attack and insult first, then claim it was the victim who attacked and insulted first. But i got no time for that tired game anymore. You assholes have ruined the forum, but i think i'll stick around anyway. I love kicking nazi creep ass. But gotta catch some football now. So, heil big brother! Enjoy your trolling.

yeah that's funny how they always act like they are the victems.they attack you with one liners and when you insult back,they whine about it like the nazi trolls they are.

yeah, it's old stale chit now. They've been doing it for a long time. They killed the forum. Used to be a great place to discuss all possibilities and question government. Most just got bored and sick of the standard troll 'tinfoil hat'/'you live in your mom's basement' ridicule shite. They just moved on. It's all about the bullying. But hey, that's all they know. Defend big brother at all costs.

But i still hang around a bit, just to rip some nazi bully ass. There's no point debating anymore. Their minds are made up. If government and the idiot box say it's so, than that's that. They'll never accept or consider any info other than what they're fed by government and the idiot box. It is what it is. But it is sad they had to kill the forum. That wasn't necessary.

so saith rerun for the umpteenth time

 

[Montrovant]

The fact you're not being paid to shill for Government, is even more sad & pathetic. Nothing to boast about there dipshit.

Dude Gomer Ollie VERY much so is being paid by the government to troll these boards.

I'm not sure about that. It could be though. Who knows these days? Government does pay Internet Trolls to shill. That has been proven. But i tend to think it's more about Ollie just being a broken ole loyal Bootlicker. He was broken in the Military. All he knows is obeying his Master. Big Brother says jump, he says how high? All of his curiosity and will to question, was beaten out of him as a young man in the Military. Hey obeys. That's all he knows. I think it's as simple as that. But i wouldn't be surprised if there are others here who are being paid to Troll. Sadly, such is life in the American Police State.

When you say who knows 'these days' that implies that in other days, you DID know who was a paid troll. What days were those?

And it's lovely how you continue to denigrate the military as a bunch of broken boot-lickers who obey Master, yet complain about others hurling insults.

 

[paulitician]

yeah that's funny how they always act like they are the victems.they attack you with one liners and when you insult back,they whine about it like the nazi trolls they are.

yeah, it's old stale chit now. They've been doing it for a long time. They killed the forum. Used to be a great place to discuss all possibilities and question government. Most just got bored and sick of the standard troll 'tinfoil hat'/'you live in your mom's basement' ridicule shite. They just moved on. It's all about the bullying. But hey, that's all they know. Defend big brother at all costs.

But i still hang around a bit, just to rip some nazi bully ass. There's no point debating anymore. Their minds are made up. If government and the idiot box say it's so, than that's that. They'll never accept or consider any info other than what they're fed by government and the idiot box. It is what it is. But it is sad they had to kill the forum. That wasn't necessary.

so saith rerun for the umpteenth time

Was i talkin to you dipshit? Mind your own business.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Have any of this children made a valid pint since i last posted fact to repute the latest BS they tried to pretend was real? You know how the car was shot through the walls....That was funny.....

 

[daws101]

yeah, it's old stale chit now. They've been doing it for a long time. They killed the forum. Used to be a great place to discuss all possibilities and question government. Most just got bored and sick of the standard troll 'tinfoil hat'/'you live in your mom's basement' ridicule shite. They just moved on. It's all about the bullying. But hey, that's all they know. Defend big brother at all costs.

But i still hang around a bit, just to rip some nazi bully ass. There's no point debating anymore. Their minds are made up. If government and the idiot box say it's so, than that's that. They'll never accept or consider any info other than what they're fed by government and the idiot box. It is what it is. But it is sad they had to kill the forum. That wasn't necessary.

so saith rerun for the umpteenth time

Was i talkin to you dipshit? Mind your own business.

it's an open forum, so yes you were...

 

[daws101]

Have any of this children made a valid pint since i last posted fact to repute the latest BS they tried to pretend was real? You know how the car was shot through the walls....That was funny.....

nope! paulie's doing a fine job of playing the martyr...

 

[SFC Ollie]

Once again we have to come to the conclusion that there is no conspiracy in Newtown and that the official investigation is correct.........

Next..........

 

[paulitician]

Once again we have to come to the conclusion that there is no conspiracy in Newtown and that the official investigation is correct.........

Next..........

Go figure? Like you Nazi douches were ever gonna come to any other conclusion.

 

[daws101]

Once again we have to come to the conclusion that there is no conspiracy in Newtown and that the official investigation is correct.........

Next..........

Go figure? Like you Nazi douches were ever gonna come to any other conclusion.

a conclusion must be based on evidence ,not the batshit ravings of delusional wankers... simple really..

 

[SFC Ollie]

Once again we have to come to the conclusion that there is no conspiracy in Newtown and that the official investigation is correct.........

Next..........

Go figure? Like you Nazi douches were ever gonna come to any other conclusion.

Do you have anything intelligent to add to the conversation? Like perhaps you could give us a reason not to believe the official investigation. You know something that you have real proof of?


I didn't think so...Next.....

 

[paulitician]

Top Ten Reasons Sandy Hook May Have Been An Elaborate Hoax:


1. Proof of death has been suppressed:

Twenty-eight people allegedly died: 27 children and adults, including Adam Lanza, at the school, and his mother, Nancy Lanza, in her home at 36 Yogananda Street, Newtown. However, there is no direct proof of their death: no photographic evidence or video footage was released to confirm the official story that these 28 persons actually died. In fact, no video surveillance footage shows anything—not even Adam shooting out the front plate-glass window or walking through the halls like Rambo, even though this is a school that had updated its security system at the start of the 2012-13 academic year.

The best the authorities could come up with was a heavily redacted report that includes numerous photos of the inside of the school, with a few dings that look like bullet holes, several bullets on the floor, and many black images with white numbers, which we are supposed to associate with dead people. One photo (left) shows the blown-out glass window through which Adam Lanza presumably entered the premises. But how did he get past the furniture, with all his weaponry, without moving anything out of position?

Compounding the situation, the parents were not even allowed to view their children’s bodies to identify them. Instead, they were reportedly shown photographs of the deceased. This was done, according to the Medical Examiner, Wayne Carver, in order to “control the situation.” But what was there about the situation that required “control”? No parent of our acquaintance would have agreed to accept the death of a child without viewing the body. James Tracy has published a discussion of the medical examiner’s performance.

Remarkably, the state has done its best to avoid releasing the death certificates and even recordings of the 911 calls. Death certificates were eventually “released” but not to the public or those who might want to investigate the case further, where only a short, general summary was available. According to The New York Times, in relation to the 911 calls, “no children are identified by name, no callers indicate that they can see a child being shot, and the only injury described is that of an educator’s being shot in the foot.”

Moreover, the funerals were all “closed casket,” with one exception—that of Noah Pozner. As recounted in interviews with the families, the circumstances of their last encounters with their children (or with their caskets) are strange to say the least. The “love fest” at the white coffin of Grace McDonnell was detailed on CNN for Anderson Cooper:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToQNVJE4xgk]McDonnell parents live through Grace - YouTube[/ame]

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/01/07/top-ten-reasons-sandy-hook-was-an-elaborate-hoax/

 

[Rat in the Hat]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M]Laugh harder - YouTube[/ame]

 

[paulitician]

2. Emergency protocols were not followed

There is no evidence of any frantic effort to save lives or to remove bodies to hospitals; instead the scene outside the school looked calm and largely bloodless—with police and other personnel milling around casually and a severe shortage of dead or injured victims. One Sandy Hook researcher decided to call Lt. Paul Vance to ask who cleaned up the blood, which would have been considered to be a bio-hazard, and got the reply, “What blood?” Here is Jim Fetzer’s interview with Kelley from Tulsa on “The Real Deal” where she discusses this, which also includes several of the 911 calls:

Kelley was onto a real issue. Under the CT Medical Waste Tracking Act of 1988, a paper trail must kept by all parties involved in the clean up and must be tracked all the way to the incinerator with names and dates.

In a Mass Casualty Incident (MCI) like Sandy Hook, the proper protocol is START triage (Simple Triage and Rapid Treatment) using tarps of different colors with the aim being to save lives and get the injured to the hospital for treatment. Not even the black tarps for the dead were used, much less the red ones for those who needed immediate treatment. As Sofia Smallstorm has documented, nothing at all like this occurred at Sandy Hook: the appropriate protocols were not followed:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1yfJDCMU64]Sofia Smallstorm Unraveling Sandy Hook - YouTube[/ame]

Sandy Hook Fire Chief Bill Halstead was ready to help the victims but could recall only two wounded people. A few survivors were reportedly taken to the hospital, but, oddly, these people were never interviewed. There were no first-hand accounts that proved anyone was killed or injured. Nonetheless, according to Lt. Vance, 18 children were pronounced dead at the scene, two children were removed to “an area hospital” and were pronounced dead at the hospital, and seven adults were pronounced dead at the scene, including the shooter (NBC).

No emergency vehicles were present at the school or even lined up in the fire lane for a rescue attempt—the parking lot was filled with parked cars, police cars and possibly media vehicles. Such rescue activity as occurred was centered, not on the school premises, but at the nearby Firehouse. Emergency vehicles at the Firehouse were jammed together impeding access to the school, in case anyone might have thought about attempting a rescue. The scene at the Firehouse was quite peculiar, with people milling around and circling through the building, walking out one door and into another, to give the impression of lots of people and lots of action:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1yfJDCMU64]Sofia Smallstorm Unraveling Sandy Hook - YouTube[/ame]

 

[paulitician]

3. Drill protocols were followed instead

We are now living in a security state, and the school system is among its beneficiaries. While we used to have “fire drills” from time to time, we now have “lockdown drills” implemented by school districts, with some states requiring a set number of drills by law. Private security firms, which operate for profit, now conduct “crisis preparedness assessments” at the tax-payer’s expense.

Larger scenarios are also developed as active-shooter drills, in which local law enforcement can take part in storming a school in pursuit of an active-actor-shooter. One such plan available on the web is “Operation Closed Campus” developed in Iowa following guidance set forth by the Homeland Security Exercise and Evaluation Program (HSEEP) of the US Department of Homeland Security.

According to protocol, everyone at the drill must check in, identification badges are issued to personnel and observers, and drinking water and restrooms are available. Personnel include the director, staff, controllers, evaluators, actors, media personnel and “players” (agency employees) both in uniforms and civilian clothes. This protocol appears to have been followed at Sandy Hook, where many participants wore ID/identification badges on lanyards, a huge check-in sign is visible and even Porta Potties are at the ready.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0782lVrxg8]Sandy Hook Hoax- The FEMA SCHOOL SHOOTING HANDBOOK SAYS - YouTube[/ame]

An emergency preparedness drill took place on 14 December 2012, 9 AM to 4 PM/ET, in Bridgeport, CT, which is a 20 minute drive from Sandy Hook. The course was run by the Connecticut Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection/Emergency Management and Homeland Security, entitled “Planning for the Needs of Children in Disasters.”

The Sandy Hook “shooting” appears to have been an Integrated Capstone Event (ICE), an exercise run by FEMA to coordinate federal, state and local emergency response teams in the case of a mass-casualty event. As such, it would have utilized actors and media partners to simulate a tragedy in order to train participants, and also in order to observe the reaction of the citizenry.

 

[paulitician]

4. There was foreknowledge of the event

The Connecticut state emergency system was taken over long before the “massacre” occurred, with a frequency change implemented five hours in advance of the “shooting.” Normal police and EMS dispatch protocol, using the Alpha Phonetic System for communications between officers and dispatchers, was replaced with staged transmissions by non-trained personnel.

In addition, tweets about the shooting began before it occurred, a tribute was apparently uploaded one month before the event, and web pages honoring the victims, including a Facebook page R.I.P. Victoria Soto, were established before they had “officially” died.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSUAXBChnbE]Sandy Hook "Donation Sites UP Before Shooting!" BUSTED - YouTube[/ame]

A Sandy Hook timeline has been reconstructed at memoryholeblog.com, detailing major developments and highlighting the numerous inconsistencies in reports by the media.

 

[paulitician]

5. There were contradictory reports about the weapons

According to initial reports in the media, weapons used in the shooting included four handguns recovered at the scene, the only guns taken into the school (NBC). Then an AR-15 was said to have been found in the trunk of Lanza’s car (NBC). Then it was reported that Lanza may have carried only two handguns and that a rifle was also found in the school (NBC).

Wayne Carver, the Medical Examiner, said that all the victims were shot with the “long weapon.” Lt. Paul Vance then said that a Bushmaster AR-15 assault weapon with high capacity magazines was used “most of the time” and that Lanza was carrying “many high-capacity clips” for the weapon (Huffington Post).

In January 2013, Connecticut state police released a statement indicating that they had found four guns inside the school: a Bushmaster .223 caliber XM 15-E2S semi-automatic rifle with high capacity 30 round clips, a Glock 10-mm handgun and a Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun. They said they also found an Izhmash Canta-12 12-gauge shotgun in Lanza’s car (NBC).

This shotgun is also shown in a video aired on the night of 14 December 2013 by NBC. An evidence collection team and a policeman find the gun in the trunk of Lanza’s Honda Civic—the policeman handles the gun without gloves and ejects the ammunition on the spot. Some have seen two long guns in the trunk in the NBC video: the 12-gauge shotgun and the Bushmaster rifle.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNsFAbGTdKk]PROOF Sandy Hook Massacre: Both Long Guns Found in Trunk of Car - YouTube[/ame]

Lt. Vance then asserted that Lanza had killed all his victims with the .223-caliber semi-automatic rifle (ctpost.com). Regarding the confusion, Vance told reporters, “It’s all these conspiracy theorists that are trying to mucky up the waters.” Perhaps “The Top Prize for Fantastical Reporting” goes to Fox News, however, which announced that a 12-gauge shotgun along with two magazines containing 70 rounds of Winchester 12-gauge shotgun rounds had been found in the glove compartment of Adam Lanza’s Honda Civic—that’s right, in the glove compartment.

 

[paulitician]

6. Adam Lanza cannot have done the shooting

Adam Lanza, reportedly a frail young man weighing 120 pounds with Asperger’s Syndrome, is said to have carried massive weaponry on his person when he shot his way into the Sandy Hook school and proceeded to kill 26 people and then himself. This after he supposedly killed his mother before driving to the school.

According to State’s Attorney Stephen Sedensky, Lanza killed his 26 victims with the Bushmaster .223-caliber rifle and then killed himself with his Glock 10-mm handgun. Lanza was also supposedly carrying three 30-round magazines for the Bushmaster as well as a Sig-Sauer 9 mm handgun (see above). The victims were shot multiple times each in a fusillade of bullets from these military-style weapons. In order to wreak this havoc, he fired more than 150 rounds, and he must have carried more rounds in addition. Lanza was reportedly found dead wearing a bulletproof vest and military-style clothing (AP).

As Mike Powers, a professional military investigator and ballistics expert, has observed, this young man of slight build could not have carried all these heavy, bulky weapons and ammunition on his person. Furthermore, since first responders were supposedly inside the school within seven minutes, there was not enough time for Lanza to have carried out the shooting as reported. In an interview with Joyce Riley, Powers states that Lanza could not have fired so many times continuously without destabilizing himself from the intense noise from the Bushmaster. As a novice, he could not have shot an AR-15 with such speed and accuracy, supposedly changing magazines 8-10 times without a stoppage.

According to Lt. Vance on the night of the shooting, one victim survived. So in less than seven minutes—or less than five minutes according to the media—Lanza killed 26 people and then himself, producing only one injured victim. This is a 96% kill ratio, which is unheard-of accuracy among the most experienced marksmen. Powers thinks the whole scenario is a physical impossibility. He is not even convinced that Adam Lanza was a real person. The story of the shooting should not be taken seriously.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AP0QDUpHFE]Joyce Riley Interviews Mike Powers Sandy Hook Investigation (Edited version no commercials) - YouTube[/ame]

The final travesty involves the weapons and other paraphernalia that were allegedly found in the Lanza house. The “arsenal” supposedly included guns, Samurai swords, knives, a bayonet and more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition, according to search warrants released. Other items of interest were ear and eye protection, binoculars, holsters, manuals, paper targets, a military-style uniform and Lanza’s NRA certificate (Fox). Lanza had reportedly compiled a spreadsheet 7 feet long and 4 feet wide in 9-point type detailing 500 victims of other mass murders (CBS). We are supposed to believe this, and, at the same time, that Adam Lanza was a shy, quiet kid who didn’t like noise and chaos, as promoted by the PBS Frontline Special, “Raising Adam Lanza.”