Saturday Night Massacre Revisited?

[DrLove]

Go ahead list the top 5 things Trump has done to damage the US internationally...I predict you have nothing snowflake. Just relax while president Trump cleans up the giant mess Obama made.

World's confidence in US leadership under Trump at new low, poll finds

 

[nat4900]

Go ahead list the top 5 things Trump has done to damage the US internationally

Try reading this article.....I doubt you will, but others might

Trump’s National Security and Foreign Policy Failures: Year One
Trump's National Security and Foreign Policy Failures: Year One - Center for American Progress

 

[BluesLegend]

Go ahead list the top 5 things Trump has done to damage the US internationally...I predict you have nothing snowflake. Just relax while president Trump cleans up the giant mess Obama made.

World's confidence in US leadership under Trump at new low, poll finds

Still waiting for you to list anything specific Trump has done, as predicted you have nothing. Your new screen name is FakeNews.

 

[BluesLegend]

Go ahead list the top 5 things Trump has done to damage the US internationally

Try reading this article.....I doubt you will, but others might

Trump’s National Security and Foreign Policy Failures: Year One
Trump's National Security and Foreign Policy Failures: Year One - Center for American Progress

Okay I read it...wait for it... poor gnat

 

[Eaglewings]

So let me ask you a question.

Would you really prefer Pence as Potus?

Yes!!!...............Pence has his own sins to contrite for.

I just want to prove these Righties wrong..I don't want Pence as president..not only is he creepy..he is an extreme right wing corrupt dangerous man..

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[DrLove]

Go ahead list the top 5 things Trump has done to damage the US internationally...I predict you have nothing snowflake. Just relax while president Trump cleans up the giant mess Obama made.

World's confidence in US leadership under Trump at new low, poll finds

Still waiting for you to list anything specific Trump has done, as predicted you have nothing. Your new screen name is FakeNews.

Oh it was pretty much covered in my link - Trump has ceded leadership of the free world to Europe and power and influence to Russia and China.

But if you need more - Enjoy:

U.S. Image Suffers as Publics Around World Question Trump’s Leadership

 

[mudwhistle]

If there was a missing piece of the puzzle on Obstruction of Justice .. there is no longer

It’s Now Likely Mueller Thinks Trump Obstructed Justice

The missing piece is there is no crime.

 

[Cellblock2429]

So let me ask you a question.

Would you really prefer Pence as Potus?

Yes!!!...............Pence has his own sins to contrite for.

"Contrite" is an adjective, I have no idea what you are trying to express.

/----/ Nat thinks a "prohibited consequence" is grounds to impeach a president.

 

[nat4900]

I just want to prove these Righties wrong..I don't want Pence as president..not only is he creepy..he is an extreme right wing corrupt dangerous man..

Pence's problems will surface later as an unindicted co-conspirator (beside his problems over the scam with Carrier.).....The definition for co-conspirator is:

An unindicted co-conspirator,is a person who is alleged in an indictment to have engaged in conspiracy, but who is not charged in the same indictment. (Check out who was such during Watergate.)

 

[Cellblock2429]

Nat tries to sound more educated than he actually is. "prohibited consequence" is just gibberish.

It is NOT my definition.......Extend your limited horizons and DO look up in any legal dictionary what "intent" means and implies....Such sources as,

Intent legal definition of intent - Legal Dictionary - The Free Dictionary

/----/ Yes Nat, intent, prohibited and consequence are all real words but when you string them together trying to fool people in believing you are more educated than you really are is gibberish.

 

[nat4900]

The missing piece is there is no crime.

Then you have nothing to be concerned about, correct???.....LOL

 

[nat4900]

Nat thinks a "prohibited consequence" is grounds to impeach a president.

Its not MY definition....

Impeachment is the action of calling into question the integrity or validity of something and a charge of misconduct made against the holder of a public office. No big deal........lol

 

[nat4900]

Yes Nat, intent, prohibited and consequence are all real words but when you string them together trying to fool people in believing you are more educated than you really are is gibberish.

I never claimed to be "more educated"......however, you and your ilk may be....

 

[DrLove]

If there was a missing piece of the puzzle on Obstruction of Justice .. there is no longer

It’s Now Likely Mueller Thinks Trump Obstructed Justice

The missing piece is there is no crime.

Obstructing justice is a crime - So is lying under oath and conspiring with a hostile foreign entity to influence an election .. better let him know
Obstruction of Justice - FindLaw

 

[mudwhistle]

If there was a missing piece of the puzzle on Obstruction of Justice .. there is no longer

It’s Now Likely Mueller Thinks Trump Obstructed Justice

The missing piece is there is no crime.

How can one commit Obstruction of Justice if one was never even being investigated for a crime and the crime being investigated isn't a crime in the first place??

Jesus Christ you people are stupid!!!

 

[DrLove]

How can one commit Obstruction of Justice if one was never even being investigated for a crime and the crime being investigated isn't a crime in the first place??

Jesus Christ you people are stupid!!!

Oh trust me - Mueller is indeed investigating Trump for criminal behavior.

 

[Snouter]

Mueller is attacking our democracy.

How so ?

By being part of a conspiracy orchestrated by OBAMA/CROOKED HILLARY/FBI/STATE DEPT./MSM/ACADEMIA/HOLLYWOOD to overturn the election and take away our vote.

Eaglewings, why do you hate democracy?

 

[MisterBeale]

If there was a missing piece of the puzzle on Obstruction of Justice .. there is no longer

It’s Now Likely Mueller Thinks Trump Obstructed Justice

Precisely........The intent of Trump to obstruct is now a foregone conclusion; what remains to be seen is IF a sitting president can be indicted or not....

The answer may be that a president may not be indicted (as most likely the SCOTUS would rule)....BUT, the ethical consequences are obvious and only a pardon from a subsequent POTUS would get Trump completely off the hook.

Jesus, what an article from the Times and Politico. They read like Kafka's The Trial. How bizarre.


All of this is neither here nor there.

What Trump was frustrated at, and what the investigative teams have, in the end found out, is that, Trump never did anything wrong.

What he was attempting to do, was to end all of the investigations which were distracting from his presidency. You can call that "obstruction of justice," if you wish, but really, from the administration's POV, it only amounted to. . .

OBSTRUCTION OF INJUSTICE, since he NEVER DID ANYTHING WRONG.

DUH.

He promised to "drain the swamp," and the political elites in D.C. want to impeach him for obstructing justice b/c of it? WTH?

This, from an ostensibly progressive source;

The FBI Hand Behind Russia-gate
The FBI Hand Behind Russia-gate
https://consortiumnews.com/2018/01/11/the-fbi-hand-behind-russia-gate/
". . . We suddenly have documentary proof that key elements of the U.S. intelligence community were trying to short-circuit the U.S. democratic process. And that puts in a new and dark context the year-long promotion of Russia-gate. It now appears that it was not the Russians trying to rig the outcome of the U.S. election, but leading officials of the U.S. intelligence community, shadowy characters sometimes called the Deep State.


More of the Strzok-Page texting dialogue is expected to be released. And the Department of Justice Inspector General reportedly has additional damaging texts from others on the team that Special Counsel Robert Mueller selected to help him investigate Russia-gate.


Besides forcing the removal of Strzok and Page, the text exposures also sounded the death knell for the career of FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, in whose office some of the plotting took place and who has already announced his plans to retire soon.


But the main casualty is the FBI’s 18-month campaign to sabotage candidate-and-now-President Donald Trump by using the Obama administration’s Russia-gate intelligence “assessment,” electronic surveillance of dubious legality, and a salacious dossier that could never pass the smell test, while at the same time using equally dubious techniques to immunize Hillary Clinton and her closest advisers from crimes that include lying to the FBI and endangering secrets. . . . "

<snip>

". . . . On the home front, Trump, his wealthy friends, and like-thinkers in Congress may now feel they have an even wider carte blanche to visit untold misery on the poor, the widow, the stranger and other vulnerable humans. That was always an underlying danger of the Resistance’s strategy to seize on whatever weapons were available – no matter how reckless or unfair – to “get Trump.”


Beyond that, Russia-gate has become so central to the Washington establishment’s storyline that there appears to be no room for second-thoughts or turning back. The momentum is such that some Democrats and the media never-Trumpers can’t stop stoking the smoke of Russia-gate and holding out hope against hope that it will somehow justify Trump’s impeachment.


Yet, the sordid process of using legal/investigative means to settle political scores further compromises the principle of the “rule of law” and integrity of journalism in the eyes of many Americans. After a year of Russia-gate, the “rule of law” and “pursuit of truth” appear to have been reduced to high-falutin’ phrases for political score-setttling, a process besmirched by Republicans in earlier pursuits of Democrats and now appearing to be a bipartisan method for punishing political rivals regardless of the lack of evidence. . . "

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

World's confidence in US leadership under Trump at new low, poll finds

Oh, my GOD that is such irrelevant horse shit.

Translation:
World confidence that the US leadership will not allow the world to fuck America in the ass is at a new law.

 

[MisterBeale]

Would you really prefer Pence as Potus?

Yes, a true conservative is preferable to someone whose singular goal is self-aggrandizement.

Pence is a whole lot less dangerous

What makes you think so?

By what measure?

Well, he's probably more dangerous when it comes to his wacked out social issues, but would be less damaging to the US internationally and iMHO far less embarrassing.

Fair enough.

I get that.

I'm not a globalist, so, I would disagree there. I don't give a shit about damaging us internationally, nor do I care what we look like or "embarrassing us." I really don't care.

The only thing that is important to me is the Bill of Rights, and I don't think Pence would protect that as much as Trump, so I get why you would prefer him over Trump.

We agree to disagree.