Senate Democrats to further damage American intelligence apparatus on the way out the Door

[Theowl32]

Maybe because Poland is a Christian country.

Oh, you poor, maligned Christians.....

Who Will Stand Up for the Christians? - NYTimes.com

Aug 19, 2014 - WHY is the world silent while Christians are being slaughtered in the ... to bear witness to the Nazi-like wave of terror that is rolling across that ...

Syria's Christians being MURDERED by MUSLIMS


World Turns Away as Rebel Massacres of Syrian Christians ...

1. www.thenewamerican.com/world.../17229-world-turns-away-as-rebel-m.. Dec 20, 2013 - Many of the Christians being persecuted in Syria previously fled atrocities in ... the gruesome slaughter in Saddad, Ibrahim and other sources reported, ... persecuted Christian communities around the world are suffering as the ...

Christians "Most Persecuted Group in World"
Muslim Persecution of Christians, February 2014
by Raymond Ibrahim
June 23, 2014 at 4:00 am

Christians Most Persecuted Group in World
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You fucking pathetic moronic hypocritical pawns are nothing but pieces of shit. Tell us again how much you care about the poor sandniggers who were water boarded that planned 911. Tell us again how you care so fucking much about the 3 sandniggers. Let us all know how much you hate the torture of the brown sandniggers.

Meanwhile tell us how much you still wish saddam was still in power in the same stink breath.

Not for one second do I believe you care. So you can tell whoever you want, but do not tell me you piece of shit.

We all know what this is about, and we get that you liberals hate this country. We also know how you laugh with each other whenever you hear of the slaughter of Christians. Especially if those Christians have a pale shade of skin.

You are nothing, and the fight is real close. I personally cannot wait, and I am hoping by some chance it is you that I get my hands on. By some sheer luck, I hope it is you that I meet in the street when the revolution starts that the commie left wing academia has been trying to get started since the 30s.

I hope, it is you.

 

[Theowl32]

I guess that there are plenty of folks on the Right who feel that it is best that our own government lie to us, and the rest of the world as well, as routine government policy, because it is in our best interests not to know what our government is doing. These people are called "republicans".

After Gruber and Obama, don't talk about government lying.

Republican politicians are liars and they demand that suckers like you defend them.

How many Republicans have been awarded Liar of the Year? Hint: Obama ain't a Republican.

I don't know, how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie-roll?

No matter how many examples I can ever post, there are 20,000,000 crap scandals and "57 States" you guys can always throw down to shame the left.

I don't even know why anyone is wasting their time in this thread trying to have a grown up discussion.

It is hard to have a grown up discussion with someone who doesn't know anything.

Do not try. Just insult them every chance you get. They do not deserve respect of any kind, and so therefore will never get it from me.

They are all pieces of unappreciative, American hating, shit. All of them are pawns for the democrats who are all elite left wing pigs who are committed to destroying America. For all of those piece of shit traitorous Americans the ends always justify the means. They are trying, like they have been trying for over 50 years, to create the revolution they have been calling for. Hence, the T shirts of Che Guerva etc etc.

They want and have been planning to create the American Soviet Union. This has been their goal and they have their best chance with this contrived piece of socialist shit in the white house who is doing everything he can to do what he was put in office to do. Utterly destroy the American free market system and crush constitution. That way they can proceed to totally silence the voice of Christians, especially the white ones.

 

[Freewill]

Since the CIA has already been exonerated in that they have broken no laws what is the purpose of this release. Quite simply, hurt America. Nothing else makes sense.

The release of this report puts Feinstein and Obama in league with Snowden. All three traitors. The one HUGE difference is that Snowden just released the information, Feinstein and Obama are lying about the information.

People like Obama who constantly say they want to change America are telling me one thing, they never loved America. Why would someone, anyone, wish to change that which they loved? Michelle was never proud of and Obama never loved America. Even though they both gained more in this country then they would in Obama's homeland of Kenya. (her words)

 

[Freewill]

I am not sure why the CIA would have tortured anyone. All they really had to do is turn them over to almost any Muslim ally and they would have done it for us without blinking an eye.

I am also not convinced by the claim that no actionable intelligence comes from torture and I don't say that in support of the practice. But I am not sure that if threatened with torture how long I would hold out. And lying would seem to be a death sentence.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

No need for the pentagon, cia or military intelligence. Its a dept of peace thats needed...lol

 

[Jroc]

I am not sure why the CIA would have tortured anyone. All they really had to do is turn them over to almost any Muslim ally and they would have done it for us without blinking an eye.

I am also not convinced by the claim that no actionable intelligence comes from torture and I don't say that in support of the practice. But I am not sure that if threatened with torture how long I would hold out. And lying would seem to be a death sentence.

Although I sure it has been done We would have gotten ripped for that as well by the leftist scumbags. Just play nice with the terrorist feel their pain....empathy and all

 

[Jroc]

Obamas is weak and our enemies know it

President Barack Obama is "the weakest of U.S. presidents" and his time in the White House has been "humiliating," a top Iranian official said in an interview with the country's Fars News Agency, according to a translation provided to The Free Beacon.

"Obama is the weakest of U.S. presidents, he had humiliating defeats in the region," said Ali Younesi, senior adviser to Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, in comments coming as the United States is trying to persuade his country to join the international coalition fighting against the Islamic State.

His words could also be a sign that the Rouhani regime does not intend to concede to the United States' demands concerning Iran's nuclear program.

U.S. Under-Secretary of State Wendy Sherman told Reuters Thursday that Iran will be considered responsible if a deal to curb the nuclear program is not reached in exchange for relief from extensive sanctions placed on the country.

The United States, along with Britain, China, France, Germany, and Russia have set a deadline of Nov. 24 for reaching a deal on the sanctions, and Sherman said Iran's best hope is to reach an agreement.

But if Younesi's words disparaging Obama are any indication, that agreement may still be much further away.

"Americans witnessed their greatest defeats in Obama's era: Terrorism expanded, [the] U.S. had huge defeats under Obama [and] that is why they want to compromise with Iran," Younesi said.

Nov 24th oh... ok.... 7 more months maybe you.ll have a nuke by then

 

[georgephillip]

This move will further damage our ability to collect counterintelligence. Other countries do not trust us anymore which means they will be more reluctant to work with us in the future

Maybe because they object to our methods?
"Prisoners were walked around naked or were shackled with their hands above their heads for extended periods of time.

"About five CIA officers would engage in what is described as a 'rough takedown'.

"A detainee would be shouted at, have his clothes cut off, be secured with tape, hooded and dragged up and down a long corridor while being slapped and punched."

Rectal rehydration and broken limbs the grisliest findings in the CIA torture report US news The Guardian

 

[Stephanie]

They (Democrats) don't give a SHIT about any YOU in this country folks. get that through your head.

SNIP:
Maybe it’s time for the “torture report”
posted at 12:41 pm on December 9, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

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Diane Feinstein clearly made the decision that she wanted to toss a grenade into the room as she leaves her chair heading the Intelligence Committee by releasing the so called “torture report.”

It’s going to take the media a long time to sort through hundreds of pages of material which comprise only the executive summary of the 6,000 page document, but the highlights are predictable. The GOP is essentially calling the findings fiction, while the Democrats want it flushed out into the press. Whether they are looking to swamp the Gruber testimony (as Noah posited last night) or just want one last shot at George W. Bush, the result will be the same. Trouble is coming, but it may be a bandage we need to rip off once and for all and get it over with.

No matter the outcome, it’s clear that the CIA is being played for a political pawn here.

In one ear they hear the public, the media and members of Congress raising alarms about the terrorist threat from the Islamic State: Do something! Do it now! Why didn’t you do something sooner? Politicians from both sides of the aisle are saying that the militant group is an enormous challenge and must be prevented from bringing its brutality to America’s shores. The president assures us that the United States will “degrade and ultimately destroy” these terrorists, while the vice president doubles down and says we will follow the Islamic State to “the gates of hell.”

But shouting in CIA officers’ other ear are people such as Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) regarding the 500-page summary of the Senate Intelligence Committee’s report on the agency’s interrogation efforts, which is expected to be released next week. The report’s leaked conclusion, which has been reported on widely, that the interrogation program brought no intelligence value is an egregious falsehood; it’s a dishonest attempt to rewrite history.

I’m bemused that the Senate could devote so many resources to studying the interrogation program and yet never once speak to any of the key people involved in it, including the guy who ran it (that would be me).

The question of whether or not this will cause additional danger to American interests around the globe seems cut and dried. It’s an obvious risk which Feinstein should have taken into account. But I will agree with her to a point on one aspect of it: enemies of the United States are in a constant state of outrage against us every day. If they are going to be stirred to more violence, it would have happened sooner or later anyway. Perhaps having it come when we are on high alert and standing guard after the release of the report will save a bit of damage.

ALL of it here:
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[Jroc]

The libs were briefed and approved until they decided they could benefit politically from criticizing the CIA and Bush

In September 2002, four members of Congress met in secret for a first look at a unique CIA program designed to wring vital information from reticent terrorism suspects in U.S. custody. For more than an hour, the bipartisan group, which included currentHouse Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), was given a virtual tour of the CIA's overseas detention sites and the harsh techniques interrogators had devised to try to make their prisoners talk.

Among the techniques described, said two officials present, was waterboarding, a practice that years later would be condemned as torture by Democrats and some Republicans on Capitol Hill. But on that day, no objections were raised. Instead, at least two lawmakers in the room asked the CIA to push harder, two U.S. officials said.

"The briefer was specifically asked if the methods were tough enough," said a U.S. official who witnessed the exchange.

Congressional leaders from both parties would later seize on waterboarding as a symbol of the worst excesses of the Bush administration's counterterrorism effort. The CIA last week admitted that videotape of an interrogation of one of the waterboarded detainees was destroyed in 2005 against the advice of Justice Department and White House officials, provoking allegations that its actions were illegal and the destruction was a coverup

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Yet long before "waterboarding" entered the public discourse, the CIA gave key legislative overseers about 30 private briefings

Hill Briefed on Waterboarding in 2002

 

[Iceweasel]

As far as I can tell, the only motivation is that the one sided Democrat report didn't have much longer to get out since they are losing power in January and Feinstein has a problem with the CIA, who investigated the Senate, and especially her. So it was now or possibly never. Apparently, the fact that it harms the country is secondary to getting revenge and soothing some butt hurt feelings.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

You fucking pathetic moronic hypocritical pawns are nothing but pieces of shit. Tell us again how much you care about the poor sandniggers who were water boarded that planned 911. Tell us again how you care so fucking much about the 3 sandniggers. Let us all know how much you hate the torture of the brown sandniggers.

Meanwhile tell us how much you still wish saddam was still in power in the same stink breath.

Not for one second do I believe you care. So you can tell whoever you want, but do not tell me you piece of shit.

We all know what this is about, and we get that you liberals hate this country. We also know how you laugh with each other whenever you hear of the slaughter of Christians. Especially if those Christians have a pale shade of skin.

You are nothing, and the fight is real close. I personally cannot wait, and I am hoping by some chance it is you that I get my hands on. By some sheer luck, I hope it is you that I meet in the street when the revolution starts that the commie left wing academia has been trying to get started since the 30s.

I hope, it is you.

It is no one else's fault except for your own, that you walk, talk and breath nothing save for complete ignorance.

The above statement is a howlingly laughable example of some 15 year old talking a bunch of smack with the benefit of total anonymity of the internet.

You are TELLING everyone what you are going to do - you haven't done Jack Crap, nor do I imagine that you have an serious inclination to follow through.

I tell you this much; the actual bad-ass mother fuckers that live up my way never talk about what they are going to do or how they are going to do it - the ones that do, go to the slammer or they get their eyes popped out and their hands cut off.

Not much of a carrier to be a tough guy; he who lives by the switchblade, dies by it.

 

[HenryBHough]

Is anyone suprised when Democrats commit treason?

No, really surprised?

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Screw the UN, screw what the world thinks or trusts. What has any other nation done for the US outside of criticism and taking advantage of our benevolence.

Great, another racist asshole.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Is anyone really surprised when Democrats to traitorous acts?

Really???

Is anyone surprised that conservatives in this thread are avoiding getting their asses handed to them by deflecting and making ridiculous personal attacks?

I'm not - it's par for the course up in dis billy-goat.

 

[Theowl32]

You fucking pathetic moronic hypocritical pawns are nothing but pieces of shit. Tell us again how much you care about the poor sandniggers who were water boarded that planned 911. Tell us again how you care so fucking much about the 3 sandniggers. Let us all know how much you hate the torture of the brown sandniggers.

Meanwhile tell us how much you still wish saddam was still in power in the same stink breath.

Not for one second do I believe you care. So you can tell whoever you want, but do not tell me you piece of shit.

We all know what this is about, and we get that you liberals hate this country. We also know how you laugh with each other whenever you hear of the slaughter of Christians. Especially if those Christians have a pale shade of skin.

You are nothing, and the fight is real close. I personally cannot wait, and I am hoping by some chance it is you that I get my hands on. By some sheer luck, I hope it is you that I meet in the street when the revolution starts that the commie left wing academia has been trying to get started since the 30s.

I hope, it is you.

It is no one else's fault except for your own, that you walk, talk and breath nothing save for complete ignorance.

The above statement is a howlingly laughable example of some 15 year old talking a bunch of smack with the benefit of total anonymity of the internet.

You are TELLING everyone what you are going to do - you haven't done Jack Crap, nor do I imagine that you have an serious inclination to follow through.

I tell you this much; the actual bad-ass mother fuckers that live up my way never talk about what they are going to do or how they are going to do it - the ones that do, go to the slammer or they get their eyes popped out and their hands cut off.

Not much of a carrier to be a tough guy; he who lives by the switchblade, dies by it.

Not only are you a hypocrite (fuck you if you think for one second if you think I will ever think you give one shit about the 3 sandniggers that were water boarded), not only are you a fucking liar, but you are an unreal pussy.

Take your double talking, homosexual, left wing shit and jam it right up your ass.

No one believes you, except the other fucking socialist pawns. You fucking moron.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

The libs were briefed and approved until they decided they could benefit politically from criticizing the CIA and Bush

In September 2002, four members of Congress met in secret for a first look at a unique CIA program designed to wring vital information from reticent terrorism suspects in U.S. custody. For more than an hour, the bipartisan group, which included currentHouse Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), was given a virtual tour of the CIA's overseas detention sites and the harsh techniques interrogators had devised to try to make their prisoners talk.

Among the techniques described, said two officials present, was waterboarding, a practice that years later would be condemned as torture by Democrats and some Republicans on Capitol Hill. But on that day, no objections were raised. Instead, at least two lawmakers in the room asked the CIA to push harder, two U.S. officials said.

"The briefer was specifically asked if the methods were tough enough," said a U.S. official who witnessed the exchange.

Congressional leaders from both parties would later seize on waterboarding as a symbol of the worst excesses of the Bush administration's counterterrorism effort. The CIA last week admitted that videotape of an interrogation of one of the waterboarded detainees was destroyed in 2005 against the advice of Justice Department and White House officials, provoking allegations that its actions were illegal and the destruction was a coverup

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Yet long before "waterboarding" entered the public discourse, the CIA gave key legislative overseers about 30 private briefings

Hill Briefed on Waterboarding in 2002

At issue here, are not approved "interrogation" methods, but rather the CIA going far beyond their powers and flouting the authority that they were bestowed with, in order to "protect" the United States.

The CIA are the ones that put our troops in harms way, not the people who reported it.

 

[Theowl32]

Is anyone really surprised when Democrats to traitorous acts?

Really???

Is anyone surprised that conservatives in this are avoiding getting their asses handed to them by deflecting and making ridiculous personal attacks?

I'm not - it's par for the course up in dis billy-goat.

So, you going to vote for Hillary who approved of these methods? Whats the matter, did I just fucking end you?

So, due to the lack of intelligence, and due to your unreal double talking and feigned outrage that you display, it is beyond obvious you have ZERO debate skills.

Now, go get your pats on the back from the other left wing homosexuals who gleefully let themselves be used as the deranged fucking pawns that you all are.

You do not impress me. You are nothing but a bag of cliches and hypocrisy.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Not only are you a hypocrite (fuck you if you think for one second if you think I will ever think you give one shit about the 3 sandniggers that were water boarded), not only are you fucking liar, but but you are an unreal pussy.

Take your double talking, homosexual, left wing shit and jam it right up your ass.

No one believes you, except the other fucking socialist pawns. You fucking moron.

Do you kiss Glen Beck's asshole with that mouth?

Seriously, dude - get a fucking grip already.

If I lied, please feel free to point it out, otherwise, you are acting like the impetuous, spoiled, teen-aged D&D pot-head that you are.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Is anyone really surprised when Democrats to traitorous acts?

Really???

Is anyone surprised that conservatives in this are avoiding getting their asses handed to them by deflecting and making ridiculous personal attacks?

I'm not - it's par for the course up in dis billy-goat.

So, you going to vote for Hillary who approved of these methods? Whats the matter, did I just fucking end you?

So, due to the lack of intelligence, and due to your unreal double talking and feigned outrage that you display, it is beyond obvious you have ZERO debate skills.

Now, go get your pats on the back from the other left wing homosexuals who gleefully let themselves be used as the deranged fucking pawns that you all are.

You do not impress me. You are nothing but a bag of cliches and hypocrisy.

Whom I vote for is none of your business, but beyond that, Hillary Clinton to my knowledge DID NOT VOTE for mock executions, threats against children and forced feeding through the colon.

As for the rest of your infantile observations - no comment.