Serious questions for Trump supporters regarding this impeachment thing

[Ray From Cleveland]

It only became a parody after a Republican pointed out he was lying.

He might have gotten away with it if not for the transcript being made public. But since it is public, only the Democrats will believe what he said. After all, Democrats don't think for themselves, they are only told what to think which is why he pulled it off.

Holy shit Ray.. you too?! You really think age was trying to pass that off as Trumps actual words?! Go watch the video again, this is going right over your head

Yes, that's exactly what I think.

Christ Ray, you’re dumber than I thought. Here’s a tip when somebody says

“Shorn of its rambling character and in not so many words, this is the essence of what the president communicates”

It usually means what they say next is not an exact quote it is an interpretation of it.

You really need to start thinking for yourself

Opinion: Adam Schiff's riff on Trump's Ukraine call was more truth than parody, but still unwise

There is a difference between interpretation and out and out lying. When you interpret something like a Mafia boss, it's more than interpretation. I mean.....really. "You don't call me. I call you." Come on man.

Or are you going to tell me left-wing stations are not lying either, they are merely doing parody.

Parody.

an imitation of the style of a particular writer, artist, or genre with deliberate exaggeration for comic effect: the movie is a parody of the horror genre |his provocative use of parody.• an imitation or a version of something that falls far short of the real thing; a travesty: he seems like a parody of an educated Englishman.

So that's what Schiff face was doing, comedy? You think that's funny how? Funny like a clown?

/—-/ When caught red handed, the first excuse of a reprobate is “I was only joking.”

I never expected anybody from the left to criticize Schiff face. Remember when they did the same thing for Kerry? Kerry was talking to a bunch of college kids and said if you don't get an education, you'll end up in a place like Iraq.

After he realized (or somebody explained to him) how he degraded our men and women in the military, they changed it to "he was making a joke!" What joke? Why didn't I hear the punch line? Why no laugh from Kerry or the audience?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It only became a parody after a Republican pointed out he was lying.

He might have gotten away with it if not for the transcript being made public. But since it is public, only the Democrats will believe what he said. After all, Democrats don't think for themselves, they are only told what to think which is why he pulled it off.

Holy shit Ray.. you too?! You really think age was trying to pass that off as Trumps actual words?! Go watch the video again, this is going right over your head

Yes, that's exactly what I think.

Christ Ray, you’re dumber than I thought. Here’s a tip when somebody says

“Shorn of its rambling character and in not so many words, this is the essence of what the president communicates”

It usually means what they say next is not an exact quote it is an interpretation of it.

You really need to start thinking for yourself

Opinion: Adam Schiff's riff on Trump's Ukraine call was more truth than parody, but still unwise

There is a difference between interpretation and out and out lying. When you interpret something like a Mafia boss, it's more than interpretation. I mean.....really. "You don't call me. I call you." Come on man.

Or are you going to tell me left-wing stations are not lying either, they are merely doing parody.

Parody.

an imitation of the style of a particular writer, artist, or genre with deliberate exaggeration for comic effect: the movie is a parody of the horror genre |his provocative use of parody.• an imitation or a version of something that falls far short of the real thing; a travesty: he seems like a parody of an educated Englishman.

So that's what Schiff face was doing, comedy? You think that's funny how? Funny like a clown?

Yes he was pretty much doing exactly that. More mockery than comedy but definitely exaggeration and imitating a mob like style. That’s exactly what he did. Immature and inappropriate coming from the head of a committee? Sure. But not at all like you all are trying to paint.

No, it's exactly how I paint it. Do you believe that if no Republican spoke out about it, he would be telling people it was a parody? Of course not. It was a long shot and he took it. If he thinks that's what this all is, a comedy scene, then WTF are they pursuing it so seriously?

 

[Slade3200]

Why are you talking about socialists?

Progressivism socialism same difference... A cancer on society

You obviously don’t understand the difference. Study up before you say things like that, you won’t sound as stupid

Do you think what Biden said was some what questionable?

I think Biden acted in coordination with our government and that of our Allies. So the motives you assign to him you have to assign to everybody.

Now if Biden went rogue and threatened to pull the loan to fire a guy without the sanction of our government then hell yes that would be inappropriate. But there is ZERO EVIDENCE that happened. Your story is a fabrication.

It is, huh?

Broadly speaking, Democratic lawmakers see the president’s decision to temporarily hold both pots of money as divorced from policy and politically motivated, and a few Republican lawmakers have publicly expressed cautious concern. Trump’s allies say the president was troubled about corruption in Ukraine and leery of spending more to help Ukraine when compared to America’s European allies.

On Wednesday, Trump and Zelenskiy appeared together for a news conference, at which Trump said he wanted Germany, France and other European countries to contribute to Ukraine’s defense. Trump also diminished the substantial aid provided under the administration of President Barack Obama.

Here’s what you need to know about the US aid package to Ukraine that Trump delayed

Oh I’m very aware of the talking points and excuses but that story doesn’t pass the smell test and we all read the conversation between Trump and Ukraine. There’s no mystery what was going on.

First you said Trump froze the money to get other country’s to pay more. When I pressed you on that you pivoted to the corruption talking point. So what did Trump do to sniff out corruption in Ukraine? And what ultimately convinced him to release the funds?

 

[Jitss617]

Progressivism socialism same difference... A cancer on society

You obviously don’t understand the difference. Study up before you say things like that, you won’t sound as stupid

Do you think what Biden said was some what questionable?

I think Biden acted in coordination with our government and that of our Allies. So the motives you assign to him you have to assign to everybody.

Now if Biden went rogue and threatened to pull the loan to fire a guy without the sanction of our government then hell yes that would be inappropriate. But there is ZERO EVIDENCE that happened. Your story is a fabrication.

It is, huh?

Broadly speaking, Democratic lawmakers see the president’s decision to temporarily hold both pots of money as divorced from policy and politically motivated, and a few Republican lawmakers have publicly expressed cautious concern. Trump’s allies say the president was troubled about corruption in Ukraine and leery of spending more to help Ukraine when compared to America’s European allies.

On Wednesday, Trump and Zelenskiy appeared together for a news conference, at which Trump said he wanted Germany, France and other European countries to contribute to Ukraine’s defense. Trump also diminished the substantial aid provided under the administration of President Barack Obama.

Here’s what you need to know about the US aid package to Ukraine that Trump delayed

Oh I’m very aware of the talking points and excuses but that story doesn’t pass the smell test and we all read the conversation between Trump and Ukraine. There’s no mystery what was going on.

First you said Trump froze the money to get other country’s to pay more. When I pressed you on that you pivoted to the corruption talking point. So what did Trump do to sniff out corruption in Ukraine? And what ultimately convinced him to release the funds?

He froze money? Huh

 

[Slade3200]

Was that a yes or no? Can you please do better at answering questions. Won’t waste as much time

When your not suffering TDS, and understand democrats control part of the House of Representatives, then you can ask them what they are doing .. since before they came in. We were skyrocketing still are but

But what? Are they responsible or not

They are the representatives they have oversight.. do I need to walk you through this?

Yes you do because it sounds like you have no clue what you are talking about.

Lol boy get a education before you log in over here

How about you prove that you have even an ounce of intellect and school me through debate. Go head and explain how the dems are responsible for the manufacturing numbers. My money is on another BS deflection

 

[Slade3200]

Holy shit Ray.. you too?! You really think age was trying to pass that off as Trumps actual words?! Go watch the video again, this is going right over your head

Yes, that's exactly what I think.

Christ Ray, you’re dumber than I thought. Here’s a tip when somebody says

“Shorn of its rambling character and in not so many words, this is the essence of what the president communicates”

It usually means what they say next is not an exact quote it is an interpretation of it.

You really need to start thinking for yourself

Opinion: Adam Schiff's riff on Trump's Ukraine call was more truth than parody, but still unwise

There is a difference between interpretation and out and out lying. When you interpret something like a Mafia boss, it's more than interpretation. I mean.....really. "You don't call me. I call you." Come on man.

Or are you going to tell me left-wing stations are not lying either, they are merely doing parody.

Parody.

an imitation of the style of a particular writer, artist, or genre with deliberate exaggeration for comic effect: the movie is a parody of the horror genre |his provocative use of parody.• an imitation or a version of something that falls far short of the real thing; a travesty: he seems like a parody of an educated Englishman.

So that's what Schiff face was doing, comedy? You think that's funny how? Funny like a clown?

Yes he was pretty much doing exactly that. More mockery than comedy but definitely exaggeration and imitating a mob like style. That’s exactly what he did. Immature and inappropriate coming from the head of a committee? Sure. But not at all like you all are trying to paint.

No, it's exactly how I paint it. Do you believe that if no Republican spoke out about it, he would be telling people it was a parody? Of course not. It was a long shot and he took it. If he thinks that's what this all is, a comedy scene, then WTF are they pursuing it so seriously?

He shouldn’t need to tell people it’s a parody because most people are smart enough to know what he said wasn’t meant to be taken literally. Especially since he states so before he reads his statement! You are trying way to hard to politicize this.

 

[Jitss617]

When your not suffering TDS, and understand democrats control part of the House of Representatives, then you can ask them what they are doing .. since before they came in. We were skyrocketing still are but

But what? Are they responsible or not

They are the representatives they have oversight.. do I need to walk you through this?

Yes you do because it sounds like you have no clue what you are talking about.

Lol boy get a education before you log in over here

How about you prove that you have even an ounce of intellect and school me through debate. Go head and explain how the dems are responsible for the manufacturing numbers. My money is on another BS deflection

So democrats don’t have oversight? Yes or no?

 

[Slade3200]

You obviously don’t understand the difference. Study up before you say things like that, you won’t sound as stupid

Do you think what Biden said was some what questionable?

I think Biden acted in coordination with our government and that of our Allies. So the motives you assign to him you have to assign to everybody.

Now if Biden went rogue and threatened to pull the loan to fire a guy without the sanction of our government then hell yes that would be inappropriate. But there is ZERO EVIDENCE that happened. Your story is a fabrication.

It is, huh?

Broadly speaking, Democratic lawmakers see the president’s decision to temporarily hold both pots of money as divorced from policy and politically motivated, and a few Republican lawmakers have publicly expressed cautious concern. Trump’s allies say the president was troubled about corruption in Ukraine and leery of spending more to help Ukraine when compared to America’s European allies.

On Wednesday, Trump and Zelenskiy appeared together for a news conference, at which Trump said he wanted Germany, France and other European countries to contribute to Ukraine’s defense. Trump also diminished the substantial aid provided under the administration of President Barack Obama.

Here’s what you need to know about the US aid package to Ukraine that Trump delayed

Oh I’m very aware of the talking points and excuses but that story doesn’t pass the smell test and we all read the conversation between Trump and Ukraine. There’s no mystery what was going on.

First you said Trump froze the money to get other country’s to pay more. When I pressed you on that you pivoted to the corruption talking point. So what did Trump do to sniff out corruption in Ukraine? And what ultimately convinced him to release the funds?

He froze money? Huh

Yeah... he put it inside the whitehouse freezer so it wouldn’t spoil

 

[Jitss617]

Do you think what Biden said was some what questionable?

I think Biden acted in coordination with our government and that of our Allies. So the motives you assign to him you have to assign to everybody.

Now if Biden went rogue and threatened to pull the loan to fire a guy without the sanction of our government then hell yes that would be inappropriate. But there is ZERO EVIDENCE that happened. Your story is a fabrication.

It is, huh?

Broadly speaking, Democratic lawmakers see the president’s decision to temporarily hold both pots of money as divorced from policy and politically motivated, and a few Republican lawmakers have publicly expressed cautious concern. Trump’s allies say the president was troubled about corruption in Ukraine and leery of spending more to help Ukraine when compared to America’s European allies.

On Wednesday, Trump and Zelenskiy appeared together for a news conference, at which Trump said he wanted Germany, France and other European countries to contribute to Ukraine’s defense. Trump also diminished the substantial aid provided under the administration of President Barack Obama.

Here’s what you need to know about the US aid package to Ukraine that Trump delayed

Oh I’m very aware of the talking points and excuses but that story doesn’t pass the smell test and we all read the conversation between Trump and Ukraine. There’s no mystery what was going on.

First you said Trump froze the money to get other country’s to pay more. When I pressed you on that you pivoted to the corruption talking point. So what did Trump do to sniff out corruption in Ukraine? And what ultimately convinced him to release the funds?

He froze money? Huh

Yeah... he put it inside the whitehouse freezer so it wouldn’t spoil

Well you said it not me..

 

[Slade3200]

But what? Are they responsible or not

They are the representatives they have oversight.. do I need to walk you through this?

Yes you do because it sounds like you have no clue what you are talking about.

Lol boy get a education before you log in over here

How about you prove that you have even an ounce of intellect and school me through debate. Go head and explain how the dems are responsible for the manufacturing numbers. My money is on another BS deflection

So democrats don’t have oversight? Yes or no?

Dude, make your point or buzz off. Are you saying that since dems have oversight they are responsible for the low manufacturing numbers? Is that your argument?

 

[Cellblock2429]

Yes, that's exactly what I think.

Christ Ray, you’re dumber than I thought. Here’s a tip when somebody says

“Shorn of its rambling character and in not so many words, this is the essence of what the president communicates”

It usually means what they say next is not an exact quote it is an interpretation of it.

You really need to start thinking for yourself

Opinion: Adam Schiff's riff on Trump's Ukraine call was more truth than parody, but still unwise

There is a difference between interpretation and out and out lying. When you interpret something like a Mafia boss, it's more than interpretation. I mean.....really. "You don't call me. I call you." Come on man.

Or are you going to tell me left-wing stations are not lying either, they are merely doing parody.

Parody.

an imitation of the style of a particular writer, artist, or genre with deliberate exaggeration for comic effect: the movie is a parody of the horror genre |his provocative use of parody.• an imitation or a version of something that falls far short of the real thing; a travesty: he seems like a parody of an educated Englishman.

So that's what Schiff face was doing, comedy? You think that's funny how? Funny like a clown?

Yes he was pretty much doing exactly that. More mockery than comedy but definitely exaggeration and imitating a mob like style. That’s exactly what he did. Immature and inappropriate coming from the head of a committee? Sure. But not at all like you all are trying to paint.

No, it's exactly how I paint it. Do you believe that if no Republican spoke out about it, he would be telling people it was a parody? Of course not. It was a long shot and he took it. If he thinks that's what this all is, a comedy scene, then WTF are they pursuing it so seriously?

He shouldn’t need to tell people it’s a parody because most people are smart enough to know what he said wasn’t meant to be taken literally. Especially since he states so before he reads his statement! You are trying way to hard to politicize this.

/——/ What was the point of a parody if the actual transcript was sooooo damning? Can you name any other chairman opened s heating with a parody?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Minor offenses? You try testifying in court and found to be guilty of perjury. I guarantee you won't get the same treatment as Bill Clinton did under the law.

"You try testifying in court and found to be guilty of perjury."

Scooter Libby tried that -- and was found guilty.

First, you yahoo's cheered when Bush commuted his sentence.

Then y'all did cartwheels when Trump gave him a full pardon.

Your shit doesn't fly around here.

You are comparing direct knowledge vs process crimes. It's one of the reasons Trump never accepted being interviewed by Mueller. You can choke anybody up by bringing up things they might have forgotten about, perhaps dates, places, whatever.

They knew all along that Richard Armitage was the real leaker. And what happened to him????

So of course Bush commuted his sentence. It was a witch hunt right from the beginning. Now would you like to compare what Clinton was sentenced to compared to Libby????

Scooter was the original leaker. But it was the reporter with whom Armitage leaked who actually ran with the story and published it.

Regardless.... Libby intentionally lied to federal investigators, was tried & convicted of perjury and you rightards proved you don't actually give a shit about perjury. Shit, even after begin convicted, here you are still defending Libby.

Maybe now you realize what a flaming goof you look like saying, "Minor offenses? You try testifying in court and found to be guilty of perjury. I guarantee you won't get the same treatment as Bill Clinton did under the law."

I guess you have a hard time distinguishing between process crimes and real crimes. But that's expected of a leftist.

So how many years was Bill Clinton sentenced to prison?

Dumbshit... both Clinton and Libby were accused of the same thing.... criminal lying. Clinton lied in a deposition and Libby lied to federal investigators.

And Clinton didn't face prison because he accepted a plea deal.

Libby was sentenced to prison and cretins on the right celebrated when Bush commuted his sentence and Trump pardoned him. Forever extinguishing the myth that you righties give a shit about perjury and exposing how impeaching Clinton over it was bullshit.

Clinton knowingly perjured himself, Libby didn't. That's why we celebrated when Bush got him off the hook.

You people always have two sets of rules just like Rush says. You have Biden who openly made the threat of withholding US aid to get what he wanted, and Trump who didn't. Yet you are now accusing Trump of what Biden did.

 

[Slade3200]

I think Biden acted in coordination with our government and that of our Allies. So the motives you assign to him you have to assign to everybody.

Now if Biden went rogue and threatened to pull the loan to fire a guy without the sanction of our government then hell yes that would be inappropriate. But there is ZERO EVIDENCE that happened. Your story is a fabrication.

It is, huh?

Broadly speaking, Democratic lawmakers see the president’s decision to temporarily hold both pots of money as divorced from policy and politically motivated, and a few Republican lawmakers have publicly expressed cautious concern. Trump’s allies say the president was troubled about corruption in Ukraine and leery of spending more to help Ukraine when compared to America’s European allies.

On Wednesday, Trump and Zelenskiy appeared together for a news conference, at which Trump said he wanted Germany, France and other European countries to contribute to Ukraine’s defense. Trump also diminished the substantial aid provided under the administration of President Barack Obama.

Here’s what you need to know about the US aid package to Ukraine that Trump delayed

Oh I’m very aware of the talking points and excuses but that story doesn’t pass the smell test and we all read the conversation between Trump and Ukraine. There’s no mystery what was going on.

First you said Trump froze the money to get other country’s to pay more. When I pressed you on that you pivoted to the corruption talking point. So what did Trump do to sniff out corruption in Ukraine? And what ultimately convinced him to release the funds?

He froze money? Huh

Yeah... he put it inside the whitehouse freezer so it wouldn’t spoil

Well you said it not me..

I’m starting to understand how your brain works so I can start phrasing things in a way you will understand

 

[Jitss617]

They are the representatives they have oversight.. do I need to walk you through this?

Yes you do because it sounds like you have no clue what you are talking about.

Lol boy get a education before you log in over here

How about you prove that you have even an ounce of intellect and school me through debate. Go head and explain how the dems are responsible for the manufacturing numbers. My money is on another BS deflection

So democrats don’t have oversight? Yes or no?

Dude, make your point or buzz off. Are you saying that since dems have oversight they are responsible for the low manufacturing numbers? Is that your argument?

Answer my question first. And I’ll answer yours

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

When caught red handed, the first excuse of a reprobate is “I was only joking.”

Ya don't say?!

Trump 'joking' about pardons if laws broken in pursuit of border wall: WH official

The many, many times Trump has said he was only joking

 

[Slade3200]

Christ Ray, you’re dumber than I thought. Here’s a tip when somebody says

“Shorn of its rambling character and in not so many words, this is the essence of what the president communicates”

It usually means what they say next is not an exact quote it is an interpretation of it.

You really need to start thinking for yourself

Opinion: Adam Schiff's riff on Trump's Ukraine call was more truth than parody, but still unwise

There is a difference between interpretation and out and out lying. When you interpret something like a Mafia boss, it's more than interpretation. I mean.....really. "You don't call me. I call you." Come on man.

Or are you going to tell me left-wing stations are not lying either, they are merely doing parody.

Parody.

an imitation of the style of a particular writer, artist, or genre with deliberate exaggeration for comic effect: the movie is a parody of the horror genre |his provocative use of parody.• an imitation or a version of something that falls far short of the real thing; a travesty: he seems like a parody of an educated Englishman.

So that's what Schiff face was doing, comedy? You think that's funny how? Funny like a clown?

Yes he was pretty much doing exactly that. More mockery than comedy but definitely exaggeration and imitating a mob like style. That’s exactly what he did. Immature and inappropriate coming from the head of a committee? Sure. But not at all like you all are trying to paint.

No, it's exactly how I paint it. Do you believe that if no Republican spoke out about it, he would be telling people it was a parody? Of course not. It was a long shot and he took it. If he thinks that's what this all is, a comedy scene, then WTF are they pursuing it so seriously?

He shouldn’t need to tell people it’s a parody because most people are smart enough to know what he said wasn’t meant to be taken literally. Especially since he states so before he reads his statement! You are trying way to hard to politicize this.

/——/ What was the point of a parody if the actual transcript was sooooo damning? Can you name any other chairman opened s heating with a parody?

Because both sides are spinning instead of having an honest debate. Reps act like nothing is wrong and dems act like trumps a mob boss. It is a pathetic and unproductive game that both sides are playing

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Now parody isn’t supposed to be funny.

Oh, I thought it was funny. But you can parody serious topics.

Why do such simple ideas always have to be explained to you, like you're a child?

 

[Slade3200]

Yes you do because it sounds like you have no clue what you are talking about.

Lol boy get a education before you log in over here

How about you prove that you have even an ounce of intellect and school me through debate. Go head and explain how the dems are responsible for the manufacturing numbers. My money is on another BS deflection

So democrats don’t have oversight? Yes or no?

Dude, make your point or buzz off. Are you saying that since dems have oversight they are responsible for the low manufacturing numbers? Is that your argument?

Answer my question first. And I’ll answer yours

Yes, dems have oversight. Your turn

 

[Jitss617]

Lol boy get a education before you log in over here

How about you prove that you have even an ounce of intellect and school me through debate. Go head and explain how the dems are responsible for the manufacturing numbers. My money is on another BS deflection

So democrats don’t have oversight? Yes or no?

Dude, make your point or buzz off. Are you saying that since dems have oversight they are responsible for the low manufacturing numbers? Is that your argument?

Answer my question first. And I’ll answer yours

Yes, dems have oversight. Your turn

So they SHARE RESPONSIBILITY..

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I'm not worried at all. Now if our economy wasn't the pride of the world, you may have greater concern. But people are making more money, they are paying less taxes, no longer victims of Commie Care fines, and more jobs than Americans to fill them.
Voters will always vote for what's best for them personally.

Damn Ray.....

Do you realize you just described Venezuela only a few years before Hugo and the Left plunged the country into chaos?
Venezuelans didn't elect Chavez.....OR Maduro....corruption did. Good thing we don't have that here.

Sadly, I feel most on the Right are also "Not worried at all". In fact so many are so relaxed and sure, they feel their participation won't even be needed in 2020.
There'll be PLENTY of votes for Trump, even if I stay home. (x 30,000,000)

"Trump is guaranteed to win". No doubt.

You have to remember we Republicans take out our anger differently than those on the left.

When the left gets pissed off, they have protests, riots in the street, destroying private and public property. We on the right get so pissed off that we make sure to make it to the polls hell over high water.

Not to worry. The last thing we Republicans will do is become complacent. If you don't believe me, just check out the standing room only events where Trump appears, compared to Biden who can't pack a high school cafeteria.

"We on the right get so pissed off that we make sure to make it to the polls hell over high water."

Oh? When was the last presidential election where more Republicans voted than Democrats?

George Bush.

But more than that was the midterms during DumBama.

Try harder...

2000
Democrat: 39%
Republican: 35%

2004
Democrat: 37%
Republican: 37%

2004 United States presidential election - Wikipedia