Should The Rich Be Required To Pay Higher Taxes In the US?

The rich use more to the wear on our infrastructure. Why shouldn't they pay more to maintain what they use???

Honestly.

One more time: The bottom 49% contribute NOTHING towards our collective federal income tax burden yet have the same access to our infrastructure as those who do pay. How is that "fair?"


So Gov't is and has been ran ONLY on income taxes huh? lol

SIXTY EIGHT MILLION FAMILIES
WENT FROM ALMOST 18% OF US INCOME IN 1980 TO 11% (ALMOST $5,000 LESS) TODAY, AVERAGES LESS THAN $15,000 PER FAMILY. HOW MUCH SHOULD THEY PAY?





Summary of Latest Federal Income Tax Data
 
You'll prove it? You don't know what MP earned or paid in taxes, no idea how the flat tax would be structured and what would be the rate yet you can prove something?
:lmao:

So tell us, what percentage of total income did you pay in federal tax for 2014?

Federal tax ÷ total income=?
pretty personal question dont you think. And, if they answer less than 25%, you tell them it will screw them, if they answer more than 25%, you tell them they are lying.
So tell me, what purpose does it serve for anyone to tell you anything?
Personally, I think that if EVERYONE paid the same percentage, the over all percentage would be less than some already pay, the big losers would be the leaches on the bottom of the food chain.
Im good with that.
besides, how much is it worth percentage wise, not to have to itemize and work through a few hundred thousand pages of tax code.
wouldnt take long before the tax rate could start to come down.
Im all for a flat tax rate with no exceptions.

You are a plutocrats wet dream, know in depth knowledge needed, just "believe"

HINT THE BOTTOM HALF OF US MAKE AN AVERAGE OF LESS THAN $15,000 PER FAMILY!!!
 
I'd be happy to offer my perspective.
It is obvious that there is a problem that has been growing for decades, in regards to inequality, and it's not just in America.
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"Despite huge advancements in technology and productivity, millions of Americans are working longer hours for lower wages. The real median income of male workers is $783 less than it was 42 years ago; while the real median income of female workers is over $1,300 less than it was in 2007. That is unacceptable and that has got to change."
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AS PRESIDENT, SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS WILL REDUCE INCOME AND WEALTH INEQUALITY BY:


    • Demanding that the wealthy and large corporations pay their fair share in taxes. As President, Sen. Sanders will stop corporations from shifting their profits and jobs overseas to avoid paying U.S. income taxes. He will create a progressive estate tax on the top 0.3 percent of Americans who inherit more than $3.5 million. He will also enact a tax on Wall Street speculators who caused millions of Americans to lose their jobs, homes, and life savings.
    • Increasing the federal minimum wage from $7.25 to $15 an hour by 2020. In the year 2015, no one who works 40 hours a week should be living in poverty.
    • Putting at least 13 million Americans to work by investing $1 trillion over five years rebuilding our crumbling roads, bridges, railways, airports, public transit systems, ports, dams, wastewater plants, and other infrastructure needs.
    • Reversing trade policies like NAFTA, CAFTA, and PNTR with China that have driven down wages and caused the loss of millions of jobs. If corporate America wants us to buy their products they need to manufacture those products in this country, not in China or other low-wage countries.
    • Creating 1 million jobs for disadvantaged young Americans by investing $5.5 billion in a youth jobs program. Today, the youth unemployment rate is off the charts. We have got to end this tragedy by making sure teenagers and young adults have the jobs they need to move up the economic ladder.
    • Fighting for pay equity by signing the Paycheck Fairness Act into law. It is an outrage that women earn just 78 cents for every dollar a man earns.
    • Making tuition free at public colleges and universities throughout America. Everyone in this country who studies hard should be able to go to college regardless of income.
    • Expanding Social Security by lifting the cap on taxable income above $250,000. At a time when the senior poverty rate is going up, we have got to make sure that every American can retire with dignity and respect.
    • Guaranteeing healthcare as a right of citizenship by enacting a Medicare for all single-payer healthcare system. It’s time for the U.S. to join every major industrialized country on earth and provide universal healthcare to all.
    • Requiring employers to provide at least 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave; two weeks of paid vacation; and 7 days of paid sick days. Real family values are about making sure that parents have the time they need to bond with their babies and take care of their children and relatives when they get ill.
    • Enacting a universal childcare and prekindergarten program. Every psychologist understands that the most formative years for a human being is from the ages 0-4. We have got to make sure every family in America has the opportunity to send their kids to a high quality childcare and pre-K program.
    • Making it easier for workers to join unions by fighting for the Employee Free Choice Act. One of the most significant reasons for the 40-year decline in the middle class is that the rights of workers to collectively bargain for better wages and benefits have been severely undermined.
    • Breaking up huge financial institutions so that they are no longer too big to fail. Seven years ago, the taxpayers of this country bailed out Wall Street because they were too big to fail. Yet, 3 out of the 4 largest financial institutions are 80 percent bigger today than before we bailed them out. Sen. Sanders has introduced legislation to break these banks up. As President, he will fight to sign this legislation into law.

If it were such a problem, why aren't immigrants clamoring to go to more socialist countries as opposed to US? Is the health of the country supposed to be measured by how its collective wealth is distributed or opportunity for individual wealth and prosperity? If child poverity was such a problem, why are immigrants crossing the border illegally to have children??
Europe has immigrants to, not just America. Because it's easier for someone impoverished in Mexico to get to America instead of taking a ship to Denmark?

By your own stats, the US is the worst. That is what you posted.
The US is not doing to well when it comes to child poverty, but many immigrants are close to the US, and always hear about the supposed opportunities.
Yeah, it was the "poor and middle class" whose taxes were cut *shaking head*

EFFECTIVE tax rates


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Dumb2three, you're a lying Commie fuck.

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Look, I realize you're just a Soros hate drone, but less that 10% of the shit you spew has any basis in fact.

Soros thinks it clever to graph tax cuts in dollars, rather than percent.

It isn't clever, it just fucking lying.


"Soros thinks it clever to graph tax cuts in dollars, rather than percent."



lol


EFFECTIVE tax rates



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Your charts show that the richest pay a higher rate than the middle class.
So were you lying before or are you just stupid?

lie. I'm shocked

A "large proportion" of millionaires pay a smaller percentage of their income in taxes than a "significant proportion" of moderate-income taxpayers,
said the report, which defined moderate-income as taxpayers with taxable income below $100,000.

More specifically, roughly a quarter of all millionaires face a tax rate that is lower than the tax rate faced by 10 percent of the moderate-income taxpayers.

And on average, according to the report, the below-$100,000 taxpayers paid 35 percent of their taxable income in taxes (income and payroll), while the millionaires paid 30 percent.

Middle class pays higher tax rates than millionaires, Sen. Tammy Baldwin says




A new study finding an "unfair," rich-poor balance in state and local taxes has been getting big traction on the Web this week.


The study, from the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, found that "virtually every state's tax system is fundamentally unfair, taking a much greater share of income from low- and middle-income families than from wealthy families." It added that state and local tax systems are "indirectly contributing to growing income inequality by taxing low- and middle-income households at significantly higher rates than wealthy taxpayers."

In other words, it said the tax systems are "upside down," with the poor paying more and the rich paying less. Overall, the poorest 20 percent of Americans paid an average of 10.9 percent of their income in state and local taxes and the middle 20 percent of Americans paid 9.4 percent. The top 1 percent, meanwhile, pay only 5.4 percent of their income to state and local taxes.

Do the rich pay lower taxes than the middle class?
Yeah, it was the "poor and middle class" whose taxes were cut *shaking head*

EFFECTIVE tax rates


average_effective_federal_tax_rates.png

Dumb2three, you're a lying Commie fuck.

images


Look, I realize you're just a Soros hate drone, but less that 10% of the shit you spew has any basis in fact.

Soros thinks it clever to graph tax cuts in dollars, rather than percent.

It isn't clever, it just fucking lying.


"Soros thinks it clever to graph tax cuts in dollars, rather than percent."



lol


EFFECTIVE tax rates



average_effective_federal_tax_rates.png


average-effective-tax-rates-by-income-percentiles-1960-2004.png

2-22-10tax-f1.jpg

Your charts show that the richest pay a higher rate than the middle class.
So were you lying before or are you just stupid?

lie. I'm shocked

A "large proportion" of millionaires pay a smaller percentage of their income in taxes than a "significant proportion" of moderate-income taxpayers,
said the report, which defined moderate-income as taxpayers with taxable income below $100,000.

More specifically, roughly a quarter of all millionaires face a tax rate that is lower than the tax rate faced by 10 percent of the moderate-income taxpayers.

And on average, according to the report, the below-$100,000 taxpayers paid 35 percent of their taxable income in taxes (income and payroll), while the millionaires paid 30 percent.

Middle class pays higher tax rates than millionaires, Sen. Tammy Baldwin says




A new study finding an "unfair," rich-poor balance in state and local taxes has been getting big traction on the Web this week.


The study, from the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, found that "virtually every state's tax system is fundamentally unfair, taking a much greater share of income from low- and middle-income families than from wealthy families." It added that state and local tax systems are "indirectly contributing to growing income inequality by taxing low- and middle-income households at significantly higher rates than wealthy taxpayers."

In other words, it said the tax systems are "upside down," with the poor paying more and the rich paying less. Overall, the poorest 20 percent of Americans paid an average of 10.9 percent of their income in state and local taxes and the middle 20 percent of Americans paid 9.4 percent. The top 1 percent, meanwhile, pay only 5.4 percent of their income to state and local taxes.

Do the rich pay lower taxes than the middle class?
Yeah, it was the "poor and middle class" whose taxes were cut *shaking head*

EFFECTIVE tax rates


average_effective_federal_tax_rates.png

Dumb2three, you're a lying Commie fuck.

images


Look, I realize you're just a Soros hate drone, but less that 10% of the shit you spew has any basis in fact.

Soros thinks it clever to graph tax cuts in dollars, rather than percent.

It isn't clever, it just fucking lying.


"Soros thinks it clever to graph tax cuts in dollars, rather than percent."



lol


EFFECTIVE tax rates



average_effective_federal_tax_rates.png


average-effective-tax-rates-by-income-percentiles-1960-2004.png

2-22-10tax-f1.jpg

Your charts show that the richest pay a higher rate than the middle class.
So were you lying before or are you just stupid?

lie. I'm shocked

A "large proportion" of millionaires pay a smaller percentage of their income in taxes than a "significant proportion" of moderate-income taxpayers,
said the report, which defined moderate-income as taxpayers with taxable income below $100,000.

More specifically, roughly a quarter of all millionaires face a tax rate that is lower than the tax rate faced by 10 percent of the moderate-income taxpayers.

And on average, according to the report, the below-$100,000 taxpayers paid 35 percent of their taxable income in taxes (income and payroll), while the millionaires paid 30 percent.

Middle class pays higher tax rates than millionaires, Sen. Tammy Baldwin says




A new study finding an "unfair," rich-poor balance in state and local taxes has been getting big traction on the Web this week.


The study, from the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, found that "virtually every state's tax system is fundamentally unfair, taking a much greater share of income from low- and middle-income families than from wealthy families." It added that state and local tax systems are "indirectly contributing to growing income inequality by taxing low- and middle-income households at significantly higher rates than wealthy taxpayers."

In other words, it said the tax systems are "upside down," with the poor paying more and the rich paying less. Overall, the poorest 20 percent of Americans paid an average of 10.9 percent of their income in state and local taxes and the middle 20 percent of Americans paid 9.4 percent. The top 1 percent, meanwhile, pay only 5.4 percent of their income to state and local taxes.

Do the rich pay lower taxes than the middle class?
Yeah, it was the "poor and middle class" whose taxes were cut *shaking head*

EFFECTIVE tax rates


average_effective_federal_tax_rates.png

Dumb2three, you're a lying Commie fuck.

images


Look, I realize you're just a Soros hate drone, but less that 10% of the shit you spew has any basis in fact.

Soros thinks it clever to graph tax cuts in dollars, rather than percent.

It isn't clever, it just fucking lying.


"Soros thinks it clever to graph tax cuts in dollars, rather than percent."



lol


EFFECTIVE tax rates



average_effective_federal_tax_rates.png


average-effective-tax-rates-by-income-percentiles-1960-2004.png

2-22-10tax-f1.jpg

Your charts show that the richest pay a higher rate than the middle class.
So were you lying before or are you just stupid?

lie. I'm shocked

A "large proportion" of millionaires pay a smaller percentage of their income in taxes than a "significant proportion" of moderate-income taxpayers,
said the report, which defined moderate-income as taxpayers with taxable income below $100,000.

More specifically, roughly a quarter of all millionaires face a tax rate that is lower than the tax rate faced by 10 percent of the moderate-income taxpayers.

And on average, according to the report, the below-$100,000 taxpayers paid 35 percent of their taxable income in taxes (income and payroll), while the millionaires paid 30 percent.

Middle class pays higher tax rates than millionaires, Sen. Tammy Baldwin says




A new study finding an "unfair," rich-poor balance in state and local taxes has been getting big traction on the Web this week.


The study, from the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, found that "virtually every state's tax system is fundamentally unfair, taking a much greater share of income from low- and middle-income families than from wealthy families." It added that state and local tax systems are "indirectly contributing to growing income inequality by taxing low- and middle-income households at significantly higher rates than wealthy taxpayers."

In other words, it said the tax systems are "upside down," with the poor paying more and the rich paying less. Overall, the poorest 20 percent of Americans paid an average of 10.9 percent of their income in state and local taxes and the middle 20 percent of Americans paid 9.4 percent. The top 1 percent, meanwhile, pay only 5.4 percent of their income to state and local taxes.

Do the rich pay lower taxes than the middle class?

Your headline needs to be corrected to align with your premise. You say poor and middle incomes are paying higher rates but high income earners are paying "lower taxes"??? The high income earners rates may only be 5.4 percent but it is adding up to greater than 70 percent of the taxes??

How can the high income earners be paying lower taxes (read "Total") when the study focuses on rates? Think instead of cutting and pasting.
 
Lowest SUSTAINED tax burden on the "job creators" since 1932. Highest Corp profits in 40+ years. First time EVER labor costs to Corps below 50% of costs, but the FEAR of increasing taxes is stopping the "job creators"??? lol

You're right, higher taxes here are getting businesses to close foreign divisions and expand here.....oh, wait, that's not what's happening. Maybe we could increase corporate regulatory expenses? That should get them to increase the pay of their labor force, oh, wait, that wouldn't happen either.
Disastrous trade policies haven't helped anything..


Its time to end free trade and raise tariffs 10% across the board on imports. This is the only way our workers can be paid right.

So who ultimately pays that 10% tax? I'll give you a hint: the food chain.


That is why we make it here in America. Want jobs for all Americans? Well, little tommy is going to have to do production.

10% would slow down the economy quite a bit, don't you think? Your big screen would be 10% more, your imported car would be 10% more, and people would be generally buying less products regardless where they are made. I mean after all, the reason for tariffs is to bring up prices closer to US manufactured goods. When most Americans go shopping, they have a budget that they can spend.
 
I see comprehension isn't your strong suit. That would explain your loony leftism.
BTW, didn't you once claim you "earn" millions yet pay no income tax?

Thanks to Republicans I pay no personal federal income tax because I 'officially' make zero income.
 
I keep reading where all those on the left believe taxing the rich is a good thing as it will "help the Middle Class".

Can someone please explain to me just how that works? I just don't seem to understand how the Government taking more money from the top group helps the middle group.


HINT, TAXES ARE REDISTRIBUTION. Always has been. Used to be VERY progressive. Today, nope, today the redistribution went from the poor/middle class to the rich!


AS WE GUTTED THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATES OF THE TOP 1%, THE DEBT BURDEN EXPLODED? Note ANYTHING about that?
 
I'd be happy to offer my perspective.
It is obvious that there is a problem that has been growing for decades, in regards to inequality, and it's not just in America.
20150817_Charts_2-2.png

20150817_Charts_3-1.png

"Despite huge advancements in technology and productivity, millions of Americans are working longer hours for lower wages. The real median income of male workers is $783 less than it was 42 years ago; while the real median income of female workers is over $1,300 less than it was in 2007. That is unacceptable and that has got to change."
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AS PRESIDENT, SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS WILL REDUCE INCOME AND WEALTH INEQUALITY BY:


    • Demanding that the wealthy and large corporations pay their fair share in taxes. As President, Sen. Sanders will stop corporations from shifting their profits and jobs overseas to avoid paying U.S. income taxes. He will create a progressive estate tax on the top 0.3 percent of Americans who inherit more than $3.5 million. He will also enact a tax on Wall Street speculators who caused millions of Americans to lose their jobs, homes, and life savings.
    • Increasing the federal minimum wage from $7.25 to $15 an hour by 2020. In the year 2015, no one who works 40 hours a week should be living in poverty.
    • Putting at least 13 million Americans to work by investing $1 trillion over five years rebuilding our crumbling roads, bridges, railways, airports, public transit systems, ports, dams, wastewater plants, and other infrastructure needs.
    • Reversing trade policies like NAFTA, CAFTA, and PNTR with China that have driven down wages and caused the loss of millions of jobs. If corporate America wants us to buy their products they need to manufacture those products in this country, not in China or other low-wage countries.
    • Creating 1 million jobs for disadvantaged young Americans by investing $5.5 billion in a youth jobs program. Today, the youth unemployment rate is off the charts. We have got to end this tragedy by making sure teenagers and young adults have the jobs they need to move up the economic ladder.
    • Fighting for pay equity by signing the Paycheck Fairness Act into law. It is an outrage that women earn just 78 cents for every dollar a man earns.
    • Making tuition free at public colleges and universities throughout America. Everyone in this country who studies hard should be able to go to college regardless of income.
    • Expanding Social Security by lifting the cap on taxable income above $250,000. At a time when the senior poverty rate is going up, we have got to make sure that every American can retire with dignity and respect.
    • Guaranteeing healthcare as a right of citizenship by enacting a Medicare for all single-payer healthcare system. It’s time for the U.S. to join every major industrialized country on earth and provide universal healthcare to all.
    • Requiring employers to provide at least 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave; two weeks of paid vacation; and 7 days of paid sick days. Real family values are about making sure that parents have the time they need to bond with their babies and take care of their children and relatives when they get ill.
    • Enacting a universal childcare and prekindergarten program. Every psychologist understands that the most formative years for a human being is from the ages 0-4. We have got to make sure every family in America has the opportunity to send their kids to a high quality childcare and pre-K program.
    • Making it easier for workers to join unions by fighting for the Employee Free Choice Act. One of the most significant reasons for the 40-year decline in the middle class is that the rights of workers to collectively bargain for better wages and benefits have been severely undermined.
    • Breaking up huge financial institutions so that they are no longer too big to fail. Seven years ago, the taxpayers of this country bailed out Wall Street because they were too big to fail. Yet, 3 out of the 4 largest financial institutions are 80 percent bigger today than before we bailed them out. Sen. Sanders has introduced legislation to break these banks up. As President, he will fight to sign this legislation into law.

If it were such a problem, why aren't immigrants clamoring to go to more socialist countries as opposed to US? Is the health of the country supposed to be measured by how its collective wealth is distributed or opportunity for individual wealth and prosperity? If child poverity was such a problem, why are immigrants crossing the border illegally to have children??


YES, IMMIGRANTS AREN'T TRYING TO GET INTO OTHER NATIONS RIGHT? lol
 
Sure I did Bubba, he increases SS taxes 60%, he doubled the self employed *SMALL BIZ OWNER)SS taxes!

Sure I did Bubba, he increases SS taxes 60%,

I'm interested in how much he increased SS rates. Why don't you tell me?


Why Bubs? You THAT ignorant you can't figure out increasing SS REVENUES by 60% (he "borrowed" to hide the costs of tax cuts for the rich) IS a tax increase???

You don't think he raised the rates by 60%, do you?

I'm interested in how much he increased SS rates. Why don't you tell me?


Still want o play on the edge and NEVER bring ANYTHING to the discussion huh Bubs?

Still making claims without showing the tax rates? Why is that?


Which claim of mine required me to post a tax RATE Bubba? Oh right NOTHING. And yes, I'm really shy about giving links to back up my posits? Oh wait, no IT'S The opposite, conservatives have a hard time with that!!!!
 
As a result of a pair of rate cuts, first under President Bill Clinton and then under Bush, most of the richest Americans pay lower overall tax rates than middle-class Americans do. And this is one reason the gap between the wealthy and the rest of the country is widening dramatically.


Capital gains tax rates benefiting wealthy are protected by both parties

most of the richest Americans pay lower overall tax rates than middle-class Americans do.

It's weird that they don't give the income levels for the "richest" or "middle class" in their claim.
Why is that?


Go figure it out Bubs? lol;

Figure out the fake numbers your stupid source used? LOL!

Go figure you can't even use conservative "math" to figure it out. I'm shocked

Why would I bother trying to prove anything about the fake numbers the idiots pulled out of their asses?


AS opposed to your "beliefs" you pulled out of your ass?

What conservatives say — and why it’s wrong



Conservatives claim the wealthy are overtaxed. But the overall share of taxes paid by the top 1% and the top 5% is about their share of total income. This shows that the tax system is not progressive when it comes to the wealthy. The richest 1% pay an effective federal income tax rate of 24.7%. That is a little more than the 19.3% rate paid by someone making an average of $75,000. And 1 out of 5 millionaires pays a lower rate than someone making $50,000 to $100,000.

Conservatives claim that the estate tax is a “death tax,” wrongly implying that the tax is paid when every American dies. In fact, the tax primarily is paid by estates of multi-millionaires and billionaires. The vast majority of deaths — 99.9% — do not trigger estate taxes today


Fact Sheet: Taxing Wealthy Americans | Americans for Tax Fairness
 
As a result of a pair of rate cuts, first under President Bill Clinton and then under Bush, most of the richest Americans pay lower overall tax rates than middle-class Americans do. And this is one reason the gap between the wealthy and the rest of the country is widening dramatically.


Capital gains tax rates benefiting wealthy are protected by both parties


Romney paid 1.94 million in taxes…he paid more than his fair share……did you pay 1.94 million in taxes asshole?
See everyone? I told you all that Republicans, if given the chance, would make the argument that a rich guy shouldn't pay any more taxes than a poor man. I KNEW IT!

That doesn't work stupid. And the guy who got rich didn't get rich in the utopia you dream of. In fact he would have NEVER gotten rich under your system of fairness and equality. You are a stupid fuck.


the richest got richer on your Progressive watch stupid.....................and they passed on their tax hikes to the poor in the form of higher prices for goods and services. great job leftard!!

For some inexplicable reason leftists just don't (or can't) understand that taxes on business are simply passed along to the consumer in the form of higher prices for goods and services and that much like sales taxes they place an inordinate burden on the poorer consumer.


Weird, the rich can't get a smaller ROI?

And that's another concept our loony lefties just can't (or won't) grasp ... the fact that not all (or even most) biz owners (you know, those who collect biz taxes from consumers and pass them along to the gov't) are rich. To any sane biz owner, taxes are just another COGS to be figured into the price of their products and services but allow me to suggest that YOU establish a biz and give most (or even all) of YOUR proceeds to your employees, customers and the gov't. After all, that is why people start businesses, right?
:lmao:
 
the poorest got porer on Progressives' watch

income inequality grew

libs are losers who lie to themselves

Dumbass,,,the middle class and our industry has been ripped apart and sent over sea's the past 35 years. Smaller government + globalism = corporations never being happy enough in America so they go get some asian monkey's!!! We can't make them happy!!! Not with globalism! We have to tariff then rule our own market.

Then we can have high living standards!

Dumbass,,,the middle class and our industry has been ripped apart and sent over sea's the past 35 years.

Quick, raise taxes, that always causes businesses to expand. Moron.


Lowest SUSTAINED tax burden on the "job creators" since 1932. Highest Corp profits in 40+ years. First time EVER labor costs to Corps below 50% of costs, but the FEAR of increasing taxes is stopping the "job creators"??? lol

You're right, higher taxes here are getting businesses to close foreign divisions and expand here.....oh, wait, that's not what's happening. Maybe we could increase corporate regulatory expenses? That should get them to increase the pay of their labor force, oh, wait, that wouldn't happen either.

Perhaps TRY GOOD GOV'T POLICY versus the BS CONservatives have been pushing on US for 30+ years? Just an idea Bubs
 
As a result of a pair of rate cuts, first under President Bill Clinton and then under Bush, most of the richest Americans pay lower overall tax rates than middle-class Americans do. And this is one reason the gap between the wealthy and the rest of the country is widening dramatically.


Capital gains tax rates benefiting wealthy are protected by both parties

most of the richest Americans pay lower overall tax rates than middle-class Americans do.

It's weird that they don't give the income levels for the "richest" or "middle class" in their claim.
Why is that?


Go figure it out Bubs? lol;

Figure out the fake numbers your stupid source used? LOL!

Go figure you can't even use conservative "math" to figure it out. I'm shocked

Why would I bother trying to prove anything about the fake numbers the idiots pulled out of their asses?


The fortunate 400: David Cay Johnston


Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each.



In addition to the six who paid no tax, another 110 families paid 15 percent or less in federal income taxes.
That's the same federal tax rate as a single worker who made $61,500 in 2009.

Overall, the top 400 paid an average income tax rate of 19.9 percent, the same rate paid by a single worker who made $110,000 in 2009. The top 400 earned five times that much every day.

Just 82 of the top 400 were taxed in accord with the Buffett rule, which proposes a minimum tax of 30 percent on annual incomes greater than $1 million.

The fortunate 400: David Cay Johnston
 
The rich use more to the wear on our infrastructure. Why shouldn't they pay more to maintain what they use???

Honestly.

One more time: The bottom 49% contribute NOTHING towards our collective federal income tax burden yet have the same access to our infrastructure as those who do pay. How is that "fair?"


So Gov't is and has been ran ONLY on income taxes huh? lol

SIXTY EIGHT MILLION FAMILIES
WENT FROM ALMOST 18% OF US INCOME IN 1980 TO 11% (ALMOST $5,000 LESS) TODAY, AVERAGES LESS THAN $15,000 PER FAMILY. HOW MUCH SHOULD THEY PAY?
Summary of Latest Federal Income Tax Data

Very disingenuous of you, Princess. The topic of this discussion is our federal infrastructure (interstate highways, federal courts and gov't, military, etc.). You know ... the stuff we who contribute to the US Treasury through income taxes pay for and the stuff those who don't pay federal income taxes don't pay for?
 
I'd be happy to offer my perspective.
It is obvious that there is a problem that has been growing for decades, in regards to inequality, and it's not just in America.
20150817_Charts_2-2.png

20150817_Charts_3-1.png

"Despite huge advancements in technology and productivity, millions of Americans are working longer hours for lower wages. The real median income of male workers is $783 less than it was 42 years ago; while the real median income of female workers is over $1,300 less than it was in 2007. That is unacceptable and that has got to change."
20150817_Charts_4-1.png

AS PRESIDENT, SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS WILL REDUCE INCOME AND WEALTH INEQUALITY BY:


    • Demanding that the wealthy and large corporations pay their fair share in taxes. As President, Sen. Sanders will stop corporations from shifting their profits and jobs overseas to avoid paying U.S. income taxes. He will create a progressive estate tax on the top 0.3 percent of Americans who inherit more than $3.5 million. He will also enact a tax on Wall Street speculators who caused millions of Americans to lose their jobs, homes, and life savings.
    • Increasing the federal minimum wage from $7.25 to $15 an hour by 2020. In the year 2015, no one who works 40 hours a week should be living in poverty.
    • Putting at least 13 million Americans to work by investing $1 trillion over five years rebuilding our crumbling roads, bridges, railways, airports, public transit systems, ports, dams, wastewater plants, and other infrastructure needs.
    • Reversing trade policies like NAFTA, CAFTA, and PNTR with China that have driven down wages and caused the loss of millions of jobs. If corporate America wants us to buy their products they need to manufacture those products in this country, not in China or other low-wage countries.
    • Creating 1 million jobs for disadvantaged young Americans by investing $5.5 billion in a youth jobs program. Today, the youth unemployment rate is off the charts. We have got to end this tragedy by making sure teenagers and young adults have the jobs they need to move up the economic ladder.
    • Fighting for pay equity by signing the Paycheck Fairness Act into law. It is an outrage that women earn just 78 cents for every dollar a man earns.
    • Making tuition free at public colleges and universities throughout America. Everyone in this country who studies hard should be able to go to college regardless of income.
    • Expanding Social Security by lifting the cap on taxable income above $250,000. At a time when the senior poverty rate is going up, we have got to make sure that every American can retire with dignity and respect.
    • Guaranteeing healthcare as a right of citizenship by enacting a Medicare for all single-payer healthcare system. It’s time for the U.S. to join every major industrialized country on earth and provide universal healthcare to all.
    • Requiring employers to provide at least 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave; two weeks of paid vacation; and 7 days of paid sick days. Real family values are about making sure that parents have the time they need to bond with their babies and take care of their children and relatives when they get ill.
    • Enacting a universal childcare and prekindergarten program. Every psychologist understands that the most formative years for a human being is from the ages 0-4. We have got to make sure every family in America has the opportunity to send their kids to a high quality childcare and pre-K program.
    • Making it easier for workers to join unions by fighting for the Employee Free Choice Act. One of the most significant reasons for the 40-year decline in the middle class is that the rights of workers to collectively bargain for better wages and benefits have been severely undermined.
    • Breaking up huge financial institutions so that they are no longer too big to fail. Seven years ago, the taxpayers of this country bailed out Wall Street because they were too big to fail. Yet, 3 out of the 4 largest financial institutions are 80 percent bigger today than before we bailed them out. Sen. Sanders has introduced legislation to break these banks up. As President, he will fight to sign this legislation into law.

If it were such a problem, why aren't immigrants clamoring to go to more socialist countries as opposed to US? Is the health of the country supposed to be measured by how its collective wealth is distributed or opportunity for individual wealth and prosperity? If child poverity was such a problem, why are immigrants crossing the border illegally to have children??
Europe has immigrants to, not just America. Because it's easier for someone impoverished in Mexico to get to America instead of taking a ship to Denmark?

By your own stats, the US is the worst. That is what you posted.


Nonsense
 
Wait ... you're saying people pay taxes willingly, even eagerly, free from threat of draconian gov't sanctions enforced at gunpoint? Really?
Stop lying.

Shouldn't you pay taxes to support your own way. Everyone pays taxes.

Yes, everyone pays taxes, just not income taxes where all the goodies come from.

Where did the trust funds, raided to the tune of $3+ trillion the past 30 years go then????
 
Yeah, it was the "poor and middle class" whose taxes were cut *shaking head*

EFFECTIVE tax rates


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Dumb2three, you're a lying Commie fuck.

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Look, I realize you're just a Soros hate drone, but less that 10% of the shit you spew has any basis in fact.

Soros thinks it clever to graph tax cuts in dollars, rather than percent.

It isn't clever, it just fucking lying.


"Soros thinks it clever to graph tax cuts in dollars, rather than percent."



lol


EFFECTIVE tax rates



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Your charts show that the richest pay a higher rate than the middle class.
So were you lying before or are you just stupid?

lie. I'm shocked

A "large proportion" of millionaires pay a smaller percentage of their income in taxes than a "significant proportion" of moderate-income taxpayers,
said the report, which defined moderate-income as taxpayers with taxable income below $100,000.

More specifically, roughly a quarter of all millionaires face a tax rate that is lower than the tax rate faced by 10 percent of the moderate-income taxpayers.

And on average, according to the report, the below-$100,000 taxpayers paid 35 percent of their taxable income in taxes (income and payroll), while the millionaires paid 30 percent.

Middle class pays higher tax rates than millionaires, Sen. Tammy Baldwin says




A new study finding an "unfair," rich-poor balance in state and local taxes has been getting big traction on the Web this week.


The study, from the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, found that "virtually every state's tax system is fundamentally unfair, taking a much greater share of income from low- and middle-income families than from wealthy families." It added that state and local tax systems are "indirectly contributing to growing income inequality by taxing low- and middle-income households at significantly higher rates than wealthy taxpayers."

In other words, it said the tax systems are "upside down," with the poor paying more and the rich paying less. Overall, the poorest 20 percent of Americans paid an average of 10.9 percent of their income in state and local taxes and the middle 20 percent of Americans paid 9.4 percent. The top 1 percent, meanwhile, pay only 5.4 percent of their income to state and local taxes.

Do the rich pay lower taxes than the middle class?

And on average, according to the report, the below-$100,000 taxpayers paid 35 percent of their taxable income in taxes (income and payroll)

Let's take $100,000 as the income figure in 2014.
That single taxpayer pays $7,650 in Social Security and Medicare taxes.
Now his standard deduction is $6200 and his personal exemption is $3950, leaving his taxable income at
$89850. According to the 2014 tax tables, his Federal Income Tax is $18,341.
$25,991 combined. Less than 29%.

The millionaire pays $7254 in Social Security on his first $117,000 in income and $14,500 in Medicare taxes.
His personal exemption is phased out but he can still use the $6200 standard deduction.
His taxable income of $993,800 gives him a Federal Income Tax of $345,817.60.
$367,571.60 combined. Almost 37%.
 
As a result of a pair of rate cuts, first under President Bill Clinton and then under Bush, most of the richest Americans pay lower overall tax rates than middle-class Americans do. And this is one reason the gap between the wealthy and the rest of the country is widening dramatically.


Capital gains tax rates benefiting wealthy are protected by both parties


Romney paid 1.94 million in taxes…he paid more than his fair share……did you pay 1.94 million in taxes asshole?
See everyone? I told you all that Republicans, if given the chance, would make the argument that a rich guy shouldn't pay any more taxes than a poor man. I KNEW IT!

That doesn't work stupid. And the guy who got rich didn't get rich in the utopia you dream of. In fact he would have NEVER gotten rich under your system of fairness and equality. You are a stupid fuck.


the richest got richer on your Progressive watch stupid.....................and they passed on their tax hikes to the poor in the form of higher prices for goods and services. great job leftard!!

For some inexplicable reason leftists just don't (or can't) understand that taxes on business are simply passed along to the consumer in the form of higher prices for goods and services and that much like sales taxes they place an inordinate burden on the poorer consumer.
So pass them on! If the economy is booming we can all afford it.

These are all arguments you guys have been making for 45 years. It's getting old. Bla bla
 
pretty personal question dont you think. And, if they answer less than 25%, you tell them it will screw them, if they answer more than 25%, you tell them they are lying.
So tell me, what purpose does it serve for anyone to tell you anything?
Personally, I think that if EVERYONE paid the same percentage, the over all percentage would be less than some already pay, the big losers would be the leaches on the bottom of the food chain.
Im good with that.
besides, how much is it worth percentage wise, not to have to itemize and work through a few hundred thousand pages of tax code.
wouldnt take long before the tax rate could start to come down.
Im all for a flat tax rate with no exceptions.

I'll help you. You currently pay 5%-8% of your total income in federal tax, and you want to raise it to 10%. How stupid are you?
 

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