Should the States Leave The Union Over a Fraud Election?

[K9Buck]

Trumps own Attorney General stated there is no significant evidence of fraud

That's not what he said.

 

[The Original Tree]

<sob> We lost the election so we want to LEAVE the United States


Just like they said when Obama was elected

You cheated. And you are not Democrats.

Answer me honestly

Do you really believe Trump won the election?

I do. Biden was the worst candidate I have seen ever. He has some form of dementia. The first sign was when they stopped counting votes on the states contested on election night. I lived in a city where I saw elections turn in the last minute. With massive returns from the poorest areas where no one asked questions. Prog politicians even told us. You have to be sure of yourself and the globalists think to little of the American population. The Constitution took some time to get around but the in roads really manifested itself a little over a century ago and has taken off since then. It is being part of global government or a free nation for us. And with China breathing down our backs in the sovereign nation side.

Sad to see

You are normally somewhat reasonable in what you post. For you to not be able to see that the country turned against Trump and not the Republican Party shows you to be just another partisan Conservative willing to regurgitate whatever nonsensical RW argument you are fed.
Trumps own Attorney General stated there is no significant evidence of fraud that would impact the election

You are a liar.

President Trump received more votes for Re-election than any president in history. He also received more votes than Obama in either of his elections, and received (as currently stands) 10% more votes this year over 2016.

So again, we confirmed that you are a liar, and always will be a liar, and no one should ever listen to a single thing you say, or a single word you post.

There is solid proof that Joe Biden in conjunction with Maduro's Dominion Smartmatic election stealing machines & with the help of lawless Democrat Criminals swapped and stole 30% of President Trump's Vote.

Additionally numerous elections laws were violated in several Democrat Controlled Urban Districts to allow a flooding of invalid and illegal mail in ballots in to the system destroying the integrity of our elections in a coordinated Election Fraud Scheme.

The reality is that President Trump received 90 Million votes and Joe Biden only received 56 Million.

That is appropriate since Joe is a buffoon and corrupt, did not campaign, did not speak with reporters, the voters had no enthusiasm for him, did not show up for his speeches. Even his Thanksgiving Address only 1,000 people logged on to listen to the Senile Hair Sniffing Bought and Paid for Fool.

 

[K9Buck]

One Nation Indivisible is Contingent on Inalienable Rights being preserved by The Federal Government.

Mask Mandates are illegal and so are the business restrictions. You cannot suspend Inalienable Rights.

Sanctuary Cities are also illegal as it violates The Right of The Federal Government to regulate Immigration. It also violates Equal Protection Under The Law and violates other state's rights to be protected from Illegal Immigration or unfair advantages a state gains by thwarting The LAW!

Illegal Elections violate Equal Protection Under The Law, so we have a right to Leave The Union.

Once Inalienable Rights are not upheld, and elections are insecure, then there is No United States of America.

All your personal grievances and self-serving presumptions are subject to adjudication.

No individual's rights are absolute under the U.S. Constitution. They are all circumscribed by the rights of others.

Leftists like you see subjects rather than citizens.

 

[The Original Tree]

One Nation Indivisible is Contingent on Inalienable Rights being preserved by The Federal Government.

Mask Mandates are illegal and so are the business restrictions. You cannot suspend Inalienable Rights.

Sanctuary Cities are also illegal as it violates The Right of The Federal Government to regulate Immigration. It also violates Equal Protection Under The Law and violates other state's rights to be protected from Illegal Immigration or unfair advantages a state gains by thwarting The LAW!

Illegal Elections violate Equal Protection Under The Law, so we have a right to Leave The Union.

Once Inalienable Rights are not upheld, and elections are insecure, then there is No United States of America.

All your personal grievances and self-serving presumptions are subject to adjudication.

No individual's rights are absolute under the U.S. Constitution. They are all circumscribed by the rights of others.

You are a liar. The Constitution and Bill of Rights Declares Our Rights are ENDOWED by Our Creator and are Inalienable.

Shove your Commie Lies Up Your Marxist Mask!

 

[The Original Tree]

If this fraudulent election is not overturned, the states should leave The Union. They could declare themselves Independent Republics, and declare that all their tax dollars stay within their Independent Republics, then recall all their Senators and House Reps back to the states.

They could then afterwards form a coalition or pact whereby these Independent Republics cooperate with each other in Trade and National Defense by treaty.

They could ensure that "We The People" cannot be ruled by mandate without our consent in the New Republic. We could still be associated with The United States, but not subject to tyrannical rule and separate from The US because we currently are not being served by a Bureaucratic system of people whom we did not vote for and therefore we have taxation without representation.

The Treaty could ensure Secure Voting through National Voter Registry, Voter ID, and only allow same day voting and same day verifiable absentee balloting. It could re-title state supreme courts and place all municipalities counties etc. under it's jurisdiction etc. and all of this could easily be done in single day in a coordinated way.

They could have some sort of coalition nationally for purposes of coordinating the pact's cooperation with each other and appoint representatives and of course a President, and of course the first president would be The Legal and Legitimate President of The United States, Donald J. Trump who would resign as POTUS and accept the position of Prime Minister of The Constitutional Republic of America.

Maybe if there was sizable fraud. There was none in 2020.

Alrighty, we've gone from absolutely zero fraud to no sizable fraud. So tell us, how much fraud should be acceptable, how much cheating is ok.

Neve said there was "absolutely zero" fraud.

Every Legal Vote must be counted. Every Legal Vote must be verified.

 

[dudmuck]

The so called "law and order" party wants, no, demands we ignore "law and order" to support one man targeting "The Others" to "fix" the system.

The absence of Law and Order is why we want to separate ourselves from the Lawless Election Cheating States. You have no ethical standards and our elections are insecure, so we cannot allow you to perpetrate fraud on the rest of the law abiding public. Fraud Biden should be barred forever from entering on White House grounds. He is not only a Trespasser, he is a Traitor.

Barr says there is no evidence.

Barr says Justice Department has no evidence of widespread fraud in election

In an interview with The Associated Press, Attorney General William Barr said federal agents have uncovered no evidence that would change the outcome.

www.cbsnews.com

Where is the evidence of your claims?

 

[Quasar44]

If this fraudulent election is not overturned, the states should leave The Union. They could declare themselves Independent Republics, and declare that all their tax dollars stay within their Independent Republics, then recall all their Senators and House Reps back to the states.

They could then afterwards form a coalition or pact whereby these Independent Republics cooperate with each other in Trade and National Defense by treaty.

They could ensure that "We The People" cannot be ruled by mandate without our consent in the New Republic. We could still be associated with The United States, but not subject to tyrannical rule and separate from The US because we currently are not being served by a Bureaucratic system of people whom we did not vote for and therefore we have taxation without representation.

The Treaty could ensure Secure Voting through National Voter Registry, Voter ID, and only allow same day voting and same day verifiable absentee balloting. It could re-title state supreme courts and place all municipalities counties etc. under it's jurisdiction etc. and all of this could easily be done in single day in a coordinated way.

They could have some sort of coalition nationally for purposes of coordinating the pact's cooperation with each other and appoint representatives and of course a President, and of course the first president would be The Legal and Legitimate President of The United States, Donald J. Trump who would resign as POTUS and accept the position of Prime Minister of The Constitutional Republic of America.

Free America could become a reality if The States follow The Republic of Texas.

Texit? State representative will file bill to allow Texas to secede from the United States

A Texas state representative from the Hill Country wants to give Texans the ability to vote on secession due to an "out of control" federal government.

www.ksat.com

Yes !!
We must have succession or it’s a civil war

 

[bripat9643]

We should remain in the union and fight the dirty bastards on the left no matter what the supreme court decides

The union is a lost cause. Once the totalitarians get control, they never give it up.

 

[Quasar44]

We must break the nation up

 

[bripat9643]

If this fraudulent election is not overturned, the states should leave The Union. They could declare themselves Independent Republics, and declare that all their tax dollars stay within their Independent Republics, then recall all their Senators and House Reps back to the states.

They could then afterwards form a coalition or pact whereby these Independent Republics cooperate with each other in Trade and National Defense by treaty.

They could ensure that "We The People" cannot be ruled by mandate without our consent in the New Republic. We could still be associated with The United States, but not subject to tyrannical rule and separate from The US because we currently are not being served by a Bureaucratic system of people whom we did not vote for and therefore we have taxation without representation.

The Treaty could ensure Secure Voting through National Voter Registry, Voter ID, and only allow same day voting and same day verifiable absentee balloting. It could re-title state supreme courts and place all municipalities counties etc. under it's jurisdiction etc. and all of this could easily be done in single day in a coordinated way.

They could have some sort of coalition nationally for purposes of coordinating the pact's cooperation with each other and appoint representatives and of course a President, and of course the first president would be The Legal and Legitimate President of The United States, Donald J. Trump who would resign as POTUS and accept the position of Prime Minister of The Constitutional Republic of America.

Maybe if there was sizable fraud. There was none in 2020.

 

[bripat9643]

Thanks. Try to run shitholes like Chicago, New York and California without Federal Tax Dollars while illegals pour in to your sanctuary shitties, and you try to pay for their every need from cradle to grave while robbing your own citizens and holding fraudulent elections to continue your thievery.

You know that red states get more money from washington than they contribute to washington.

Cut them loose, and they'll lose.

No they won't. When corporations learn how much money they are losing by residing in a blue state, they will quickly relocate to a red state.

 

[The Original Tree]

And as for your OP, ain’t gonna happen.

I would not bet on that. Or do you forget how many firearms and bullets we conservatives bought to defend ourselves against cheating commie scum?

 

[The Original Tree]

Jesus Disagrees

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Jesus is The Judge, Jury and Executioner when He returns in the 2nd coming. So...yah, your butt is toast.

 

[The Original Tree]

The so called "law and order" party wants, no, demands we ignore "law and order" to support one man targeting "The Others" to "fix" the system.

The absence of Law and Order is why we want to separate ourselves from the Lawless Election Cheating States. You have no ethical standards and our elections are insecure, so we cannot allow you to perpetrate fraud on the rest of the law abiding public. Fraud Biden should be barred forever from entering on White House grounds. He is not only a Trespasser, he is a Traitor.

The laws of al 50 states have been followed. You have no arguments left that haven't been address by the various courts in the four state being ruthlessly attacked by the New Fascist Banana Republicans. There've even signing a fealty oath to their Exalted Ruler now.

Why do you lie? Do you not fear judgment day?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

If this fraud isn't rectified then yes, states need to start seceding.

 

[22lcidw]

The so called "law and order" party wants, no, demands we ignore "law and order" to support one man targeting "The Others" to "fix" the system.

The absence of Law and Order is why we want to separate ourselves from the Lawless Election Cheating States. You have no ethical standards and our elections are insecure, so we cannot allow you to perpetrate fraud on the rest of the law abiding public. Fraud Biden should be barred forever from entering on White House grounds. He is not only a Trespasser, he is a Traitor.

Barr says there is no evidence.

Barr says Justice Department has no evidence of widespread fraud in election

In an interview with The Associated Press, Attorney General William Barr said federal agents have uncovered no evidence that would change the outcome.

www.cbsnews.com

Where is the evidence of your claims?

We don't control the voting machines and the media and the currencies and most important, the men and women who sold us out over the years.

 

[Cecilie1200]

If this fraudulent election is not overturned, the states should leave The Union. They could declare themselves Independent Republics, and declare that all their tax dollars stay within their Independent Republics, then recall all their Senators and House Reps back to the states.

They could then afterwards form a coalition or pact whereby these Independent Republics cooperate with each other in Trade and National Defense by treaty.

They could ensure that "We The People" cannot be ruled by mandate without our consent in the New Republic. We could still be associated with The United States, but not subject to tyrannical rule and separate from The US because we currently are not being served by a Bureaucratic system of people whom we did not vote for and therefore we have taxation without representation.

The Treaty could ensure Secure Voting through National Voter Registry, Voter ID, and only allow same day voting and same day verifiable absentee balloting. It could re-title state supreme courts and place all municipalities counties etc. under it's jurisdiction etc. and all of this could easily be done in single day in a coordinated way.

They could have some sort of coalition nationally for purposes of coordinating the pact's cooperation with each other and appoint representatives and of course a President, and of course the first president would be The Legal and Legitimate President of The United States, Donald J. Trump who would resign as POTUS and accept the position of Prime Minister of The Constitutional Republic of America.

Free America could become a reality if The States follow The Republic of Texas.

Texit? State representative will file bill to allow Texas to secede from the United States

A Texas state representative from the Hill Country wants to give Texans the ability to vote on secession due to an "out of control" federal government.

www.ksat.com

You forgot the part where the federal government refuses to recognize the sovereignty of the states or of the individual people living the states, and moves in troops to forcibly subjugate them, thereby sparking a bloody war.

That's not an absolute "No" on my part, but let's not kid ourselves that states would be allowed to peaceably secede and go on their merry way any more now than in the 1860s.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Sure, go ahead and get to work on that.

Thanks. Try to run shitholes like Chicago, New York and California without Federal Tax Dollars while illegals pour in to your sanctuary shitties, and you try to pay for their every need from cradle to grave while robbing your own citizens and holding fraudulent elections to continue your thievery. All your businesses will flee to FREE AMERICA while the rest of your DemNazis states will look like they were firebombed.

Okay, well, let me know when you get started on this.

Today of course. Texas is already submitting a bill for secession. Other states should join them.

Last time I checked, somebody suggests that Texas secede every single time their state legislature is in session. It happens on a routine basis in Arizona, too.

 

[d0gbreath]

Y'all could recede, or we could just kick you worthless ass sonofabitches out. That would work too, right?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Sure, go ahead and get to work on that.

Thanks. Try to run shitholes like Chicago, New York and California without Federal Tax Dollars while illegals pour in to your sanctuary shitties, and you try to pay for their every need from cradle to grave while robbing your own citizens and holding fraudulent elections to continue your thievery. All your businesses will flee to FREE AMERICA while the rest of your DemNazis states will look like they were firebombed.

Okay, well, let me know when you get started on this.

Today of course. Texas is already submitting a bill for secession. Other states should join them.

Which will get struck down

Next.

Actually the US Constitution allows for the states to rebel and to leave The Union. Simply saying Texas won't leave The US is not actually an argument. It is just your hope that they don't because you need to help yourself to the taxpayer's hard earned income to rob it's citizens and give to your permanent lazy dependency class.

How'd that "The Constitution allows us to secede" argument work the last time?

Again, I'm not saying, "No", but let's not kid ourselves that it's not going to involve a war.