So a good stock market is owed to Trump but a bad one is non-political?

Oh yea and her and Harry passed a whole lot of laws in those 2 years yea right.

Junior, want me to read you off the long list of legislative initiatives they passed to a veto-proof majority? Apparently you've forgotten about QE1, QE2, the first alone was nearly a trillion dollars, bank reform, school loan reform, SnL takeover, auto industry takeover, shutting down coal, a whole plethora of crazy foreign bills------ then Oh yes there was Obamacare. That one thing alone was 1/6th the entire economy and was nearly 20,000 pages long. It cost a billion dollars just to build the non-functioning web-page. They did all that with not one Repub supporting any of it. They shoved it all right down our throats and my children's children will be paying for all it damaged, so when Trump or the GOP gets any little thing through now by the skin of their teeth to fix some of it, don't come whining and blubbering about it to me.
 
Who should get blame for squandering Clinton's surplus? Osama Bin Ladin? And did Obama really hand Trump a mess? How the fuck did he turn it around in a blink of an eye?

You must have toadstool poisoning of the brain. Too cheap to buy the store mushrooms? Bush didn't squander anything, Clinton profited from what Reagan set up, then when Bush got in office we were hit with 9/11 in a matter of days. I might add because Clinton skated on the Bin Laden thing and let the guy go on. You probably weren't born then, but that was kind of a pretty big thing.
 
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Hey Turd brain, how much is the stock market up since Trump got in office? So it went down a bit. It was bound to it had been climbing so fast. You cheap-wad naysayers can't wait to jump on ANYTHING to take your mind off what losers you really are.
But I'm not a loser. Obama made me a winner again after Bush's loser economy. I just don't want Trump to fuck it up like Bush did.

Apparently no one ever taught you much about economics nor history. "Bush's Economy" was the result of the newly-elected Democratically-Led Congress who shot the floor out from under us with Fanny Mae, Freddie Mac and the entire banking and SNL scandal.

This aught to be fun.

Who should get credit for Clinton's surplus?

Who should get blame for squandering Clinton's surplus? Osama Bin Ladin?

And did Obama really hand Trump a mess? How the fuck did he turn it around in a blink of an eye? It was weird. One day you guys were saying the economy is a mess, you pass one lousy tax break for the rich and the dow goes up for a week and you claim to have FIXED the mess Obama created? You haven't fixed shit. What you did was take over a well regulated economy and now you are going to deregulate it and give massive tax breaks that will triple the debt then you'll blame Obama.

Are you moe larry or curley?
brilliant retort Hit it out of the park

From Moe's lips to Curly's ears.
 
Humm, the Dow gained 567 points today. Yesterday liberal news outlets were blaming yesterday's drop on Trump. Gee, I wonder if they'll thank him for the 567-point gain.
 
Many factors cause the markets to fluctuate. Too many to list but a good example is the 2011 drop under Obama. Was it his fault? Nope it was Brexit

I thought it was "Bush's fault"? It was always "Bush's fault."

Yeah...it's all either Bush's fault or now Trump's....never ever is or was Obungle's fault
fk dude, a lefttart admit to do something wrong? LOL. Even the sex abusers are forgiven cause they were honest about being sex abusers. Dude, you just can't make this shit up.
 
Humm, the Dow gained 567 points today. Yesterday liberal news outlets were blaming yesterday's drop on Trump. Gee, I wonder if they'll thank him for the 567-point gain.
no, they'll say obummer was the reason for the uptick. why would it change?
 
Because it is not a bad market. The market is up 32% since Trump took over. That is a good market. That it is necessary to correct, due to too much exuberance, is also not a bad thing. Companies must back their stock with a little more than Happy Days are Here Again to be a solvent investment. It's ok. :cryhug_1_:
32%??

WTF are you smoking?

The Dow went from 19800 to 24345 under Trump. An impressive 23%, but certainly not 32%

Nasdaq-100 went from 5060 to 6500, up 28%.

S&P500 went from 2270 to 2650, up 17%.

My bad. I was wrong. It is up 40% since Trump took office, not 32%.

You like CNN, so edify:
Of course, the recent losses on Wall Street have put just a dent in the overall gains of the Trump era. The Dow and Nasdaq remain up nearly 40% since Trump's election. And even after the big drops on Friday and Monday, stocks aren't far off their all-time highs.
Market mayhem puts Trump in a tough spot
With such horrid math skills and abysmal reading comprehension skills, you must be a conservative. <smh>

Your math is wayyy off. First of all, the numbers I showed earlier are accurate at the time I posted them; and in no index was the market up 32% since Trump took office.

Even after today’s great gains, it’s still not 32%, no less 40%.

S&P500: +19%
1/20/2017: 2271
1/06/2018: 2695

Dow: +26%
1/20/2017: 19827
1/06/2018: 24913

Nasdaq: +28%
1/20/2017: 5555
1/06/2018: 7116

And as far as your reading comprehension, you’re saying one thing but the article you reference is saying something else.
 


Hey Turd brain, how much is the stock market up since Trump got in office? So it went down a bit. It was bound to it had been climbing so fast. You cheap-wad naysayers can't wait to jump on ANYTHING to take your mind off what losers you really are.
The Dow went up 200% while Ibama was president after cratering from the Great Bush Recession. Where was your applause then?
 
There hasn't been a "bad market" since Hussein left office and the DOW is up 500 points today. Tell me again what the hypocrite angry hysterical left is whining about?
 
There hasn't been a "bad market" since Hussein left office and the DOW is up 500 points today. Tell me again what the hypocrite angry hysterical left is whining about?

Today ends with a y. The loons whine everyday that ends with y
 


Hey Turd brain, how much is the stock market up since Trump got in office? So it went down a bit. It was bound to it had been climbing so fast. You cheap-wad naysayers can't wait to jump on ANYTHING to take your mind off what losers you really are.
The Dow went up 200% while Ibama was president after cratering from the Great Bush Recession. Where was your applause then?

Your head was so far up Obamas rear you probably just didn't hear it.
 
Not just one war he started, but two! Libya and Syria were no threat to America or our allies. Obama and Hillary the warmongers.
Aren't those wars over now? Well then why are you complaining? You know the president has the power to get us into conflicts. But not get us into the Vietnam or Iraq war that went on for decades.

When did we get our troops out of Libya and Syria?
All over!
Slave markets have been reenstated in Libya and ISIS is butchering kids in Syria!

Or as Obama and Hillary call it - MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
Are we still in Libya? When did Trump bring the troops home from Libya?
Obama and Hillary are so proud of what they accomplished in starting a war with a nation no threat to us.

What You Need to Know About the Libyan Slave Trade
You're going to compare Libya to the lives and money we have lost in Iraq?

At Least Trump Got One Thing Right. There Were No WMDs in Iraq | HuffPost

If you argue with me one more time that's treason. Just ask Trump. Not cheering what I am telling you is treason. LOL.
I'm applauding lol
 

You have to define a good market and a bad market. A market that grows steadily and rapidly for a year is a good market. Two days where it drops 4% isn't a bad market.

Can you imagine if Trump broke this record?

A record 75 straight months of job growth under Obama
Sure can. I can also easily predict the reaction from the lefties. Trump could give the country unparalleled economic growth and they would hate every second of it.
 
It might have been ok if he didn't lie us into Iraq.

You just never quit, do you?

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow."
- President Clinton in 1998

[…], when I say to Saddam Hussein, "You cannot defy the will of the world", and when I say to him, "You have used weapons of mass destruction before; we are determined to deny you the capacity to use them again.”
- President Clinton , Jan. 27, 1998 – State of the Union

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 .

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

“Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraqis nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.”

“Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.”

“Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.”

- President Bill Clinton, Dec. 16, 1998


"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 Clinton Secretary of State

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed."
- Madeline Albright, 1998 Clinton Secretary of State

"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 "

Update: September 8, 2005
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser was sentenced to community service and probation and fined $50,000 for illegally removing highly classified documents from the National Archives and intentionally destroying some of them..

[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton.
- (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 .

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 .

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 .


"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 .

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 .

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons but has not yet achieved nuclear capability."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 .

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002.

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal."
- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction."
- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 .

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003" (Currently President Barack Hussein Obama’s Secretary of State)

I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out."
- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003


"Saddam is gone and good riddance," former President Bill Clinton said yesterday, but he urged President Bush to resist trying to get even with nations that opposed the war.


"There are German and French soldiers in Afghanistan today. Does the President want them to come home?" Clinton said at a Manhattan forum on corporate integrity.


Democrats on Iraq + WMD's (Weapons of Mass Destruction)





He [President Clinton] praised Bush and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld for their handling of the war, but said Bush should have waited longer before attacking for the "chance that either [Saddam Hussein] would have disarmed or . . . we would have had far more members of the Security Council with us."


Clinton also said Bush should not be faulted if banned weapons of mass destruction aren't found.


"I don't think you can criticize the President for trying to act on the belief that they have a substantial amount of chemical and biological stock. . . . That is what I was always told," Clinton said.

- Former President Clinton Wednesday, April 16, 2003

"Could Be One of the Great Achievements of This Administration" The vice president said he’d been to Iraq 17 times and visits the country every three months or so. "I know every one of the major players in all the segments of that society" he said. "It's impressed me. I've been impressed how they have been deciding to use the political process rather than guns to settle their differences."


- Vice President Joe Biden (D) Feb. 10, 2010

How has the war President Barack Hussein Obama said we SHOULD have been fighting going? How is the Middle East going now that President Obama is President? Oh, Afghanistan just crossed 2,330 American fatalities. Seventy percent of whom died since President Obama took office.



 
The Dow went up 200% while Ibama was president after cratering from the Great Bush Recession. Where was your applause then?

Because of this. Former President Barack Hussein Obama was the first president in our history to not have a single year of growth above 3%.

GDP%202009%20to%20present-S.jpg
 
Oh yea and her and Harry passed a whole lot of laws in those 2 years yea right.

Junior, want me to read you off the long list of legislative initiatives they passed to a veto-proof majority? Apparently you've forgotten about QE1, QE2, the first alone was nearly a trillion dollars, bank reform, school loan reform, SnL takeover, auto industry takeover, shutting down coal, a whole plethora of crazy foreign bills------ then Oh yes there was Obamacare. That one thing alone was 1/6th the entire economy and was nearly 20,000 pages long. It cost a billion dollars just to build the non-functioning web-page. They did all that with not one Repub supporting any of it. They shoved it all right down our throats and my children's children will be paying for all it damaged, so when Trump or the GOP gets any little thing through now by the skin of their teeth to fix some of it, don't come whining and blubbering about it to me.
That’s right we did get a lot done I forgot god love them
 

You have to define a good market and a bad market. A market that grows steadily and rapidly for a year is a good market. Two days where it drops 4% isn't a bad market.
at its low it was 8 1/2 %
And it rebounded as expected.
It's killing me Every time the orange POS spoke he bragged about his DOW The very FN first time it sunk the pos blames Obama Are all repubs sick?
 

You have to define a good market and a bad market. A market that grows steadily and rapidly for a year is a good market. Two days where it drops 4% isn't a bad market.

Can you imagine if Trump broke this record?

A record 75 straight months of job growth under Obama
Sure can. I can also easily predict the reaction from the lefties. Trump could give the country unparalleled economic growth and they would hate every second of it.
How did the middle class do?
 
The Dow went up 200% while Ibama was president after cratering from the Great Bush Recession. Where was your applause then?

Because of this. Former President Barack Hussein Obama was the first president in our history to not have a single year of growth above 3%.

GDP%202009%20to%20present-S.jpg
So? What growth will trump have the next 3 years? Especially cutting immigration heavily. He doesn’t have the manpower to grow much more
 

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