So What Does the Rest of the World think About a Second Trump Presidency?

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There are several foreign members in this forum, sadly some of them are trump supporters. But in reality there is an entire world out there and we live with everybody else. And everybody else doesn't seem to think Trump is the answer.

WHAT EUROPE FEARS​

American allies see a second Trump term as all but inevitable. “The anxiety is massive.”

In early april, a crowd of diplomats and dignitaries gathered in the Flemish countryside to toast the most powerful military alliance in the history of the world, and convince themselves it wasn’t about to collapse.

They arrived in a convoy of town cars that snaked down a private driveway and deposited them outside Truman Hall, a white-brick house set on 27 acres of gardens and hazelnut groves. Originally built by a Belgian chocolatier, the estate was sold to the American government at a discount—a thank-you gift for liberating Europe—and became the residence of the U.S. ambassador to NATO. Tonight, Julianne Smith, the inexhaustibly cheerful diplomat who currently holds the job, was stationed at the front door, greeting each guest.

At Truman Hall, every effort was made to keep the mood festive despite a storm looming outside. Beneath a backyard tent, Secretary of State Antony Blinken spoke, followed by NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg.

Stoltenberg, lean and unrumpled, decided to do something diplomatically unorthodox: acknowledge reality. Anxiety about America’s commitment to the alliance had been omnipresent and unspoken; now Stoltenberg was directly addressing the dangers of a potential U.S. withdrawal from the world.

“The United States left Europe after the First World War,” he said, adding, with a measure of Scandinavian understatement, “That was not a big success.”

The wind was picking up outside, pounding the flaps of the tent and making it difficult to hear. Stoltenberg raised his voice. “Ever since the alliance was established,” he said, “it has been a great success, preserving peace, preventing war, and enabling economic prosperity—”

A strong gust hit the tent, rattling the light trusses above. Guests glanced around nervously.

The undercurrent of dread at Truman Hall was not unique. I encountered it in nearly every conversation I had while traveling through Europe this spring. In capitals across the continent—from Brussels to Berlin, Warsaw to Tallinn—leaders and diplomats expressed a sense of alarm bordering on panic at the prospect of Donald Trump’s reelection.

“The anxiety is massive,” Victoria Nuland, who served until recently as undersecretary for political affairs at the State Department, told me. Like other diplomats in the Biden administration, she has spent the three-plus years since Trump unwillingly left office working to restabilize America’s relationship with its allies.

“Foreign counterparts would say it to me straight up,” Nuland recalled. “‘The first Trump election—maybe people didn’t understand who he was, or it was an accident. A second election of Trump? We’ll never trust you again.’”

 
There are several foreign members in this forum, sadly some of them are trump supporters. But in reality there is an entire world out there and we live with everybody else. And everybody else doesn't seem to think Trump is the answer.

WHAT EUROPE FEARS​

American allies see a second Trump term as all but inevitable. “The anxiety is massive.”

In early april, a crowd of diplomats and dignitaries gathered in the Flemish countryside to toast the most powerful military alliance in the history of the world, and convince themselves it wasn’t about to collapse.

They arrived in a convoy of town cars that snaked down a private driveway and deposited them outside Truman Hall, a white-brick house set on 27 acres of gardens and hazelnut groves. Originally built by a Belgian chocolatier, the estate was sold to the American government at a discount—a thank-you gift for liberating Europe—and became the residence of the U.S. ambassador to NATO. Tonight, Julianne Smith, the inexhaustibly cheerful diplomat who currently holds the job, was stationed at the front door, greeting each guest.

At Truman Hall, every effort was made to keep the mood festive despite a storm looming outside. Beneath a backyard tent, Secretary of State Antony Blinken spoke, followed by NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg.

Stoltenberg, lean and unrumpled, decided to do something diplomatically unorthodox: acknowledge reality. Anxiety about America’s commitment to the alliance had been omnipresent and unspoken; now Stoltenberg was directly addressing the dangers of a potential U.S. withdrawal from the world.

“The United States left Europe after the First World War,” he said, adding, with a measure of Scandinavian understatement, “That was not a big success.”

The wind was picking up outside, pounding the flaps of the tent and making it difficult to hear. Stoltenberg raised his voice. “Ever since the alliance was established,” he said, “it has been a great success, preserving peace, preventing war, and enabling economic prosperity—”

A strong gust hit the tent, rattling the light trusses above. Guests glanced around nervously.

The undercurrent of dread at Truman Hall was not unique. I encountered it in nearly every conversation I had while traveling through Europe this spring. In capitals across the continent—from Brussels to Berlin, Warsaw to Tallinn—leaders and diplomats expressed a sense of alarm bordering on panic at the prospect of Donald Trump’s reelection.

“The anxiety is massive,” Victoria Nuland, who served until recently as undersecretary for political affairs at the State Department, told me. Like other diplomats in the Biden administration, she has spent the three-plus years since Trump unwillingly left office working to restabilize America’s relationship with its allies.

“Foreign counterparts would say it to me straight up,” Nuland recalled. “‘The first Trump election—maybe people didn’t understand who he was, or it was an accident. A second election of Trump? We’ll never trust you again.’”


Generally in Europe trump is considered very weak leader that can be easily fooled...

Putin has his number and trump follows him around like a bitch in heat.

Trump is just a very poor President. He makes US weak and thus the good guys loose a friend in the fight...

It is not only in NATO...

He is an imbecile when it comes to trader too... He was naive when dealing with China and doesn't know how to keep China in check... The world need to work together and China can be shown the rules and the consequences of breaking them very quickly.

Then there is what he did to global inflation. That idiot cut the world supply of oil (by about 3 million barrels a day). The fucking idiot... This was the primary pusher of global inflation and we still have MAGA guys here that still don't get it.

Trump is pretty clueless and really doesn't help having the man child in office of our ally any more that it would be good for EU to be run by an idiot either...

Look what a mess UK did with Brexiit, that helps no one, Britain is really suffering over it and want back but it is hard to get the toothpaste back in the tube.
 

So What Does the Rest of the World think About a Second Trump Presidency?​

Since the global spending spree will end I'm sure they don't like it much... too damn bad...
 
Generally in Europe trump is considered very weak leader that can be easily fooled...

Putin has his number and trump follows him around like a bitch in heat.

Trump is just a very poor President. He makes US weak and thus the good guys loose a friend in the fight...

It is not only in NATO...

He is an imbecile when it comes to trader too... He was naive when dealing with China and doesn't know how to keep China in check... The world need to work together and China can be shown the rules and the consequences of breaking them very quickly.

Then there is what he did to global inflation. That idiot cut the world supply of oil (by about 3 million barrels a day). The fucking idiot... This was the primary pusher of global inflation and we still have MAGA guys here that still don't get it.

Trump is pretty clueless and really doesn't help having the man child in office of our ally any more that it would be good for EU to be run by an idiot either...

Look what a mess UK did with Brexiit, that helps no one, Britain is really suffering over it and want back but it is hard to get the toothpaste back in the tube.
If you replace Biden for Trump in most of those sentences, your post would make sense. How do you explain the wars in Europe and the Middle East? Also, China is more aggressive than it's ever been. You're a brainwashed idiot that watches MSNBC, or the foreign equivalent of it, 24/7.
 
Generally in Europe trump is considered very weak leader that can be easily fooled...

Putin has his number and trump follows him around like a bitch in heat.

Trump is just a very poor President. He makes US weak and thus the good guys loose a friend in the fight...

It is not only in NATO...

He is an imbecile when it comes to trader too... He was naive when dealing with China and doesn't know how to keep China in check... The world need to work together and China can be shown the rules and the consequences of breaking them very quickly.

Then there is what he did to global inflation. That idiot cut the world supply of oil (by about 3 million barrels a day). The fucking idiot... This was the primary pusher of global inflation and we still have MAGA guys here that still don't get it.

Trump is pretty clueless and really doesn't help having the man child in office of our ally any more that it would be good for EU to be run by an idiot either...

Look what a mess UK did with Brexiit, that helps no one, Britain is really suffering over it and want back but it is hard to get the toothpaste back in the tube.

Then there is what he did to global inflation. That idiot cut the world supply of oil (by about 3 million barrels a day).

When? What should he have done instead?
 
There are several foreign members in this forum, sadly some of them are trump supporters. But in reality there is an entire world out there and we live with everybody else. And everybody else doesn't seem to think Trump is the answer.

WHAT EUROPE FEARS​

American allies see a second Trump term as all but inevitable. “The anxiety is massive.”

In early april, a crowd of diplomats and dignitaries gathered in the Flemish countryside to toast the most powerful military alliance in the history of the world, and convince themselves it wasn’t about to collapse.

They arrived in a convoy of town cars that snaked down a private driveway and deposited them outside Truman Hall, a white-brick house set on 27 acres of gardens and hazelnut groves. Originally built by a Belgian chocolatier, the estate was sold to the American government at a discount—a thank-you gift for liberating Europe—and became the residence of the U.S. ambassador to NATO. Tonight, Julianne Smith, the inexhaustibly cheerful diplomat who currently holds the job, was stationed at the front door, greeting each guest.

At Truman Hall, every effort was made to keep the mood festive despite a storm looming outside. Beneath a backyard tent, Secretary of State Antony Blinken spoke, followed by NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg.

Stoltenberg, lean and unrumpled, decided to do something diplomatically unorthodox: acknowledge reality. Anxiety about America’s commitment to the alliance had been omnipresent and unspoken; now Stoltenberg was directly addressing the dangers of a potential U.S. withdrawal from the world.

“The United States left Europe after the First World War,” he said, adding, with a measure of Scandinavian understatement, “That was not a big success.”

The wind was picking up outside, pounding the flaps of the tent and making it difficult to hear. Stoltenberg raised his voice. “Ever since the alliance was established,” he said, “it has been a great success, preserving peace, preventing war, and enabling economic prosperity—”

A strong gust hit the tent, rattling the light trusses above. Guests glanced around nervously.

The undercurrent of dread at Truman Hall was not unique. I encountered it in nearly every conversation I had while traveling through Europe this spring. In capitals across the continent—from Brussels to Berlin, Warsaw to Tallinn—leaders and diplomats expressed a sense of alarm bordering on panic at the prospect of Donald Trump’s reelection.

“The anxiety is massive,” Victoria Nuland, who served until recently as undersecretary for political affairs at the State Department, told me. Like other diplomats in the Biden administration, she has spent the three-plus years since Trump unwillingly left office working to restabilize America’s relationship with its allies.

“Foreign counterparts would say it to me straight up,” Nuland recalled. “‘The first Trump election—maybe people didn’t understand who he was, or it was an accident. A second election of Trump? We’ll never trust you again.’”

They think we are insane for even letting him run.
 
They think, good, Biden and Harris are dangerous morons.
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The original post is an example of why we ate Freedom Fries instead of French Fries for three years.
 
Wait, in another thread you said less spending was bad. You blamed it on Joe Biden's policies and called it a "disaster" IIRC.

Did you change your mind?
You misread me... I'm sick and tired of all of our money going abroad... no matter what the reason... Trump tightened it up Biden loosened the tap.... and we have people living in tents on the street....
 

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