So when Trump's tax reform passes the Senate this afternoon...

[John Shaw]

Some of us aren't over 50 years old. Some of us are in our 20's. Some of us actually have to build a life in this country still.

I understand how it's easy not to think long-term when you don't have that long of a term left, but for others, the future is everything. And while things are okay now, this much incompetence in government, and this disgusting tax bill ... it's going to hurt later on, big time.

But no one really expects boomers to care about anyone but themselves. Doesn't surprise me they can't see more than a few years down the road.

Instead of being a whiney ass liberal, being spoon fed the bullshit from the left, start investing in the stock market and make something of yourselves. If you contribute 100 dollars a month into a stock paying 5 percent dividend in 20 years you could have over 1/2 million dollars. If you go 40 years it could be over 2 or 3 million dollars. Liberals don't want you to know this, because when you are a victim of liberalism then you need to be dependent on the liberals who will give you just enough to survive and then demand your sorry ass to vote for them, or tell you lies that will scare you into voting for them....

I'm most likely going to be fine. But I'm not the only one who matters. 28 and I'm already starting to look at the younger people and wonder what we can do to help them succeed. Very much unlike the boomers.

hand em your money

They don't need my money. They need training, education, and opportunities. They need to stay up to date with the rest of the world and its mind-numbingly rapid technological and sociological advancement. Trump is trying to take us BACK in time! That's the problem. You can't go back. That's not the world we live in anymore ...

so why aren't you educating them?

I'm in data. I'm not a teacher. All I can do is volunteer and vote.

 

[Flash]

Well, everybody is gonna get hit with a higher inflation tax. lolol. Both parties are guilty of the same monetary policy. Which is really where the discussion should be.

The discussion should be why are we spending $4 trillion a year on the cost of the stupid Federal government?

That four trillion is more than the GDP of all but three other countries on earth. The cost of government is the usually the single largest expenditure of a family in the US, regardless of income.

Why isn't the discussion on how we are going to reduce Federal spending to a half or a third of what it is now? We could have Jim Dandy Federal government for half of what we spend now.

That is the only sane discussion to have. Anything else is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titantic.

 

[jc456]

Instead of being a whiney ass liberal, being spoon fed the bullshit from the left, start investing in the stock market and make something of yourselves. If you contribute 100 dollars a month into a stock paying 5 percent dividend in 20 years you could have over 1/2 million dollars. If you go 40 years it could be over 2 or 3 million dollars. Liberals don't want you to know this, because when you are a victim of liberalism then you need to be dependent on the liberals who will give you just enough to survive and then demand your sorry ass to vote for them, or tell you lies that will scare you into voting for them....

I'm most likely going to be fine. But I'm not the only one who matters. 28 and I'm already starting to look at the younger people and wonder what we can do to help them succeed. Very much unlike the boomers.

hand em your money

They don't need my money. They need training, education, and opportunities. They need to stay up to date with the rest of the world and its mind-numbingly rapid technological and sociological advancement. Trump is trying to take us BACK in time! That's the problem. You can't go back. That's not the world we live in anymore ...

so why aren't you educating them?

I'm in data. I'm not a teacher. All I can do is volunteer and vote.

who are you expecting to teach em then?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

...will the Democrat Party forever be remembered as the party who refused to give working-class Americans a break?

I think so. Their opposition to the greatest thing working-class America needs, will forever be worn around the necks of those who were against it.

Like a dead, putrid albatross.

Did you cheer W's tax cuts too?

Even though GW wasn't a shining example of what I'd call a "conservative" by today's definition, he was the man of the times. I cheered everything he did then. Especially sending our magnificent military to kill all those shithead Muslims after 9/11. That really made me smile. In fact, it gave me a warm tingle running down my leg.

I have a few issues of GW that proved he was an establishment puke like his daddy was at big spending. Department of Homeland security was and still is a 40 billion dollar failure. No Child Always left behind act, he and Ted Kennedy really fucked that one up. Free prescription drug Act for those people who have most of the money and the young people have to pay for it. Really fucking nice George...

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Well, everybody is gonna get hit with a higher inflation tax. lolol. Both parties are guilty of the same monetary policy. Which is really where the discussion should be.

The discussion should be why are we spending $4 trillion a year on the cost of the stupid Federal government?

That four trillion is more than the GDP of all but three other countries on earth. The cost of government is the usually the single largest expenditure of a family in the US, regardless of income.

Why isn't the discussion on how we are going to reduce Federal spending to a half or a third of what it is now? We could have Jim Dandy Federal government for half of what we spend now.

That is the only sane discussion to have. Anything else is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titantic.

Russia, Russia, Russia......?

 

[Flash]

[Q


They don't need my money. They need training, education, and opportunities. They need to stay up to date with the rest of the world and its mind-numbingly rapid technological and sociological advancement. Trump is trying to take us BACK in time! That's the problem. You can't go back. That's not the world we live in anymore ...

If you think somebody else would be better off spending the money that you make then you are free to give it to them. Nobody stopping you.

I prefer not to give my hard earned money to welfare queens, Illegals or anybody else.

 

[John Shaw]

Isn't it a hoot to hear these stupid Democrats bitch about tax cuts? Only an idiot would bitch about having taxes reduced.

I bet every one of the little bastards will sure as hell spend the money that get back in reduced taxes.

If they really believed the stupid shit they spout they would not participate in the tax reductions by sending in the money to the Treasury.

Some of us aren't over 50 years old. Some of us are in our 20's. Some of us actually have to build a life in this country still.

I understand how it's easy not to think long-term when you don't have that long of a term left, but for others, the future is everything. And while things are okay now, this much incompetence in government, and this disgusting tax bill ... it's going to hurt later on, big time.

But no one really expects boomers to care about anyone but themselves. Doesn't surprise me they can't see more than a few years down the road.

Instead of being a whiney ass liberal, being spoon fed the bullshit from the left, start investing in the stock market and make something of yourselves. If you contribute 100 dollars a month into a stock paying 5 percent dividend in 20 years you could have over 1/2 million dollars. If you go 40 years it could be over 2 or 3 million dollars. Liberals don't want you to know this, because when you are a victim of liberalism then you need to be dependent on the liberals who will give you just enough to survive and then demand your sorry ass to vote for them, or tell you lies that will scare you into voting for them....

I'm most likely going to be fine. But I'm not the only one who matters. 28 and I'm already starting to look at the younger people and wonder what we can do to help them succeed. Very much unlike the boomers.

I have my 3 kids invested in the stock market and in 40 years they will be multi millionaires unless Bernie the Socialist Sanders gets in and taxes all of their wealth away while he sits with 3 houses and $250,000 dollar plus income coming in. Stop worrying about others when they don't want to NOT be a victim of liberalism and move on and up with your life, and you too can become wealthy. I started as a minimum wage puke at McD's making $2.10 an hour, today I make over 6 figures of dividend income that only get 5% taxes on that income. Must piss off the liberals for that, but why do you think Warren Buffet, pays a lower tax rate than his secretary? Liberals are the biggest hypocrites in the universe.

Okay. You can d

I'm most likely going to be fine. But I'm not the only one who matters. 28 and I'm already starting to look at the younger people and wonder what we can do to help them succeed. Very much unlike the boomers.

hand em your money

They don't need my money. They need training, education, and opportunities. They need to stay up to date with the rest of the world and its mind-numbingly rapid technological and sociological advancement. Trump is trying to take us BACK in time! That's the problem. You can't go back. That's not the world we live in anymore ...

so why aren't you educating them?

I'm in data. I'm not a teacher. All I can do is volunteer and vote.

who are you expecting to teach em then?

How about our useless fucking schools that no one else seems to care amount to little more than indoctrination tanks and debt-siphoning plantations? How about we start there? But where's the Trump administration on education? Betsy DeVoss, who doesn't know what the fuck she's doing, even on the off-chance her intentions are pure. How about training? Better bring back coal, even though the future is clearly in developing renewable resources, nuclear, and natural gas. Fuck, India and China are all over this shit. Where is our government? "Bring back coal!!" Oh, and we're not going to focus on training old workers with new skills, either" ... it's a joke.

 

[JGalt]

...will the Democrat Party forever be remembered as the party who refused to give working-class Americans a break?

I think so. Their opposition to the greatest thing working-class America needs, will forever be worn around the necks of those who were against it.

Like a dead, putrid albatross.

this tax bill does not give a tax cut to working class Americans, in just a year millions will see a tax hike and millions and millions more of the working class in just 5+ more years....will see a tax hike.... but not the corporations and not the top 1% or 1/10th of 1 percent..... they clean up....they are given a HUGE Gift horse while they plan to cut healthcare, and medicare and the working class's social security.....

it's a SCAM, a reverse robin hood, as far as the eye can see....

and you guys praise it? fools

Be a real woman and admit it: Everything Our Magnificent Orange SOB of a President has done so far, has has worked.

Trust in Uncle Donald. He knows what's best for you.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

...will the Democrat Party forever be remembered as the party who refused to give working-class Americans a break?

I think so. Their opposition to the greatest thing working-class America needs, will forever be worn around the necks of those who were against it.

Like a dead, putrid albatross.

Did you cheer W's tax cuts too?

Even though GW wasn't a shining example of what I'd call a "conservative" by today's definition, he was the man of the times. I cheered everything he did then. Especially sending our magnificent military to kill all those shithead Muslims after 9/11. That really made me smile. In fact, it gave me a warm tingle running down my leg.

Hey go all in for corp tax cuts without ending corp tax expenditures. It's the selective libertarian way.

Notice the liberal never says go for the government tax cuts by ending the bloated government tax expenditures, from Fraud, Waste and Abuse?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Isn't it a hoot to hear these stupid Democrats bitch about tax cuts? Only an idiot would bitch about having taxes reduced.

I bet every one of the little bastards will sure as hell spend the money that get back in reduced taxes.

If they really believed the stupid shit they spout they would not participate in the tax reductions by sending in the money to the Treasury.

Some of us aren't over 50 years old. Some of us are in our 20's. Some of us actually have to build a life in this country still.

I understand how it's easy not to think long-term when you don't have that long of a term left, but for others, the future is everything. And while things are okay now, this much incompetence in government, and this disgusting tax bill ... it's going to hurt later on, big time.

But no one really expects boomers to care about anyone but themselves. Doesn't surprise me they can't see more than a few years down the road.

Instead of being a whiney ass liberal, being spoon fed the bullshit from the left, start investing in the stock market and make something of yourselves. If you contribute 100 dollars a month into a stock paying 5 percent dividend in 20 years you could have over 1/2 million dollars. If you go 40 years it could be over 2 or 3 million dollars. Liberals don't want you to know this, because when you are a victim of liberalism then you need to be dependent on the liberals who will give you just enough to survive and then demand your sorry ass to vote for them, or tell you lies that will scare you into voting for them....

I'm most likely going to be fine. But I'm not the only one who matters. 28 and I'm already starting to look at the younger people and wonder what we can do to help them succeed. Very much unlike the boomers.

I have my 3 kids invested in the stock market and in 40 years they will be multi millionaires unless Bernie the Socialist Sanders gets in and taxes all of their wealth away while he sits with 3 houses and $250,000 dollar plus income coming in. Stop worrying about others when they don't want to NOT be a victim of liberalism and move on and up with your life, and you too can become wealthy. I started as a minimum wage puke at McD's making $2.10 an hour, today I make over 6 figures of dividend income that only get 5% taxes on that income. Must piss off the liberals for that, but why do you think Warren Buffet, pays a lower tax rate than his secretary? Liberals are the biggest hypocrites in the universe.

Okay. You can d

hand em your money

They don't need my money. They need training, education, and opportunities. They need to stay up to date with the rest of the world and its mind-numbingly rapid technological and sociological advancement. Trump is trying to take us BACK in time! That's the problem. You can't go back. That's not the world we live in anymore ...

so why aren't you educating them?

I'm in data. I'm not a teacher. All I can do is volunteer and vote.

who are you expecting to teach em then?

How about our useless fucking schools that no one else seems to care amount to little more than indoctrination tanks and debt-siphoning plantations? How about we start there? But where's the Trump administration on education? Betsy DeVoss, who doesn't know what the fuck she's doing, even on the off-chance her intentions are pure. How about training? Better bring back coal, even though the future is clearly in developing renewable resources, nuclear, and natural gas. Fuck, India and China are all over this shit. Where is our government? "Bring back coal!!" Oh, and we're not going to focus on training old workers with new skills, either" ... it's a joke.

Bust up the Teachers Unions? I am all for it....

 

[Flash]

Isn't it a hoot to hear these stupid Democrats bitch about tax cuts? Only an idiot would bitch about having taxes reduced.

I bet every one of the little bastards will sure as hell spend the money that get back in reduced taxes.

If they really believed the stupid shit they spout they would not participate in the tax reductions by sending in the money to the Treasury.

Some of us aren't over 50 years old. Some of us are in our 20's. Some of us actually have to build a life in this country still.

I understand how it's easy not to think long-term when you don't have that long of a term left, but for others, the future is everything. And while things are okay now, this much incompetence in government, and this disgusting tax bill ... it's going to hurt later on, big time.

But no one really expects boomers to care about anyone but themselves. Doesn't surprise me they can't see more than a few years down the road.

Instead of being a whiney ass liberal, being spoon fed the bullshit from the left, start investing in the stock market and make something of yourselves. If you contribute 100 dollars a month into a stock paying 5 percent dividend in 20 years you could have over 1/2 million dollars. If you go 40 years it could be over 2 or 3 million dollars. Liberals don't want you to know this, because when you are a victim of liberalism then you need to be dependent on the liberals who will give you just enough to survive and then demand your sorry ass to vote for them, or tell you lies that will scare you into voting for them....

I'm most likely going to be fine. But I'm not the only one who matters. 28 and I'm already starting to look at the younger people and wonder what we can do to help them succeed. Very much unlike the boomers.

I have my 3 kids invested in the stock market and in 40 years they will be multi millionaires unless Bernie the Socialist Sanders gets in and taxes all of their wealth away while he sits with 3 houses and $250,000 dollar plus income coming in. Stop worrying about others when they don't want to NOT be a victim of liberalism and move on and up with your life, and you too can become wealthy. I started as a minimum wage puke at McD's making $2.10 an hour, today I make over 6 figures of dividend income that only get 5% taxes on that income. Must piss off the liberals for that, but why do you think Warren Buffet, pays a lower tax rate than his secretary? Liberals are the biggest hypocrites in the universe.

Okay. You can d

hand em your money

They don't need my money. They need training, education, and opportunities. They need to stay up to date with the rest of the world and its mind-numbingly rapid technological and sociological advancement. Trump is trying to take us BACK in time! That's the problem. You can't go back. That's not the world we live in anymore ...

so why aren't you educating them?

I'm in data. I'm not a teacher. All I can do is volunteer and vote.

who are you expecting to teach em then?

How about our useless fucking schools that no one else seems to care amount to little more than indoctrination tanks and debt-siphoning plantations? How about we start there? But where's the Trump administration on education? Betsy DeVoss, who doesn't know what the fuck she's doing, even on the off-chance her intentions are pure. How about training? Better bring back coal, even though the future is clearly in developing renewable resources, nuclear, and natural gas. Fuck, India and China are all over this shit. Where is our government? "Bring back coal!!" Oh, and we're not going to focus on training old workers with new skills, either" ... it's a joke.

We spend more money in education than any other country on earth and have piss poor results.

Only stupid Moon Bats want to throw more money at it.

 

[John Shaw]

Some of us aren't over 50 years old. Some of us are in our 20's. Some of us actually have to build a life in this country still.

I understand how it's easy not to think long-term when you don't have that long of a term left, but for others, the future is everything. And while things are okay now, this much incompetence in government, and this disgusting tax bill ... it's going to hurt later on, big time.

But no one really expects boomers to care about anyone but themselves. Doesn't surprise me they can't see more than a few years down the road.

Instead of being a whiney ass liberal, being spoon fed the bullshit from the left, start investing in the stock market and make something of yourselves. If you contribute 100 dollars a month into a stock paying 5 percent dividend in 20 years you could have over 1/2 million dollars. If you go 40 years it could be over 2 or 3 million dollars. Liberals don't want you to know this, because when you are a victim of liberalism then you need to be dependent on the liberals who will give you just enough to survive and then demand your sorry ass to vote for them, or tell you lies that will scare you into voting for them....

I'm most likely going to be fine. But I'm not the only one who matters. 28 and I'm already starting to look at the younger people and wonder what we can do to help them succeed. Very much unlike the boomers.

I have my 3 kids invested in the stock market and in 40 years they will be multi millionaires unless Bernie the Socialist Sanders gets in and taxes all of their wealth away while he sits with 3 houses and $250,000 dollar plus income coming in. Stop worrying about others when they don't want to NOT be a victim of liberalism and move on and up with your life, and you too can become wealthy. I started as a minimum wage puke at McD's making $2.10 an hour, today I make over 6 figures of dividend income that only get 5% taxes on that income. Must piss off the liberals for that, but why do you think Warren Buffet, pays a lower tax rate than his secretary? Liberals are the biggest hypocrites in the universe.

Okay. You can d

They don't need my money. They need training, education, and opportunities. They need to stay up to date with the rest of the world and its mind-numbingly rapid technological and sociological advancement. Trump is trying to take us BACK in time! That's the problem. You can't go back. That's not the world we live in anymore ...

so why aren't you educating them?

I'm in data. I'm not a teacher. All I can do is volunteer and vote.

who are you expecting to teach em then?

How about our useless fucking schools that no one else seems to care amount to little more than indoctrination tanks and debt-siphoning plantations? How about we start there? But where's the Trump administration on education? Betsy DeVoss, who doesn't know what the fuck she's doing, even on the off-chance her intentions are pure. How about training? Better bring back coal, even though the future is clearly in developing renewable resources, nuclear, and natural gas. Fuck, India and China are all over this shit. Where is our government? "Bring back coal!!" Oh, and we're not going to focus on training old workers with new skills, either" ... it's a joke.

We spend more money in education than any other country on earth and have piss poor results.

Only stupid Moon Bats want to throw more money at it.

Where did I say throw more money at it? Point that out to me because I'm not seeing it.

And the reason I'm not seeing it is because it was never mentioned.

 

[jc456]

Isn't it a hoot to hear these stupid Democrats bitch about tax cuts? Only an idiot would bitch about having taxes reduced.

I bet every one of the little bastards will sure as hell spend the money that get back in reduced taxes.

If they really believed the stupid shit they spout they would not participate in the tax reductions by sending in the money to the Treasury.

Some of us aren't over 50 years old. Some of us are in our 20's. Some of us actually have to build a life in this country still.

I understand how it's easy not to think long-term when you don't have that long of a term left, but for others, the future is everything. And while things are okay now, this much incompetence in government, and this disgusting tax bill ... it's going to hurt later on, big time.

But no one really expects boomers to care about anyone but themselves. Doesn't surprise me they can't see more than a few years down the road.

It sounds like you are a confused Moon Bat.

Lower taxes are good for everybody. They are good for me being a Baby Boomer. Even as a retiree I pay a ton in taxes and that is despicable. It is good for my working age children that is burdened with tremendous taxes and good for my grandchildren.

Good for how long? A few years? Sure. Can't argue with that. But when the debt blossoms even more out of control ... we're paying interest on that ... healthcare costs skyrocket ... we have to pay for the people without insurance in the ER ... etc. Things are not so simple. Everything has a consequence, and those consequences have consequences.

why not cut spending? why is that such a hard progressive step for you libs?

 

[Flash]

[QUOT


Where did I say throw more money at it? Point that out to me because I'm not seeing it.

And the reason I'm not seeing it is because it was never mentioned.

Then you agree with me that the Liberals have fucked up education in this country and we should abolish the Department of Education because it is a waste of money. Good.

 

[jc456]

Instead of being a whiney ass liberal, being spoon fed the bullshit from the left, start investing in the stock market and make something of yourselves. If you contribute 100 dollars a month into a stock paying 5 percent dividend in 20 years you could have over 1/2 million dollars. If you go 40 years it could be over 2 or 3 million dollars. Liberals don't want you to know this, because when you are a victim of liberalism then you need to be dependent on the liberals who will give you just enough to survive and then demand your sorry ass to vote for them, or tell you lies that will scare you into voting for them....

I'm most likely going to be fine. But I'm not the only one who matters. 28 and I'm already starting to look at the younger people and wonder what we can do to help them succeed. Very much unlike the boomers.

I have my 3 kids invested in the stock market and in 40 years they will be multi millionaires unless Bernie the Socialist Sanders gets in and taxes all of their wealth away while he sits with 3 houses and $250,000 dollar plus income coming in. Stop worrying about others when they don't want to NOT be a victim of liberalism and move on and up with your life, and you too can become wealthy. I started as a minimum wage puke at McD's making $2.10 an hour, today I make over 6 figures of dividend income that only get 5% taxes on that income. Must piss off the liberals for that, but why do you think Warren Buffet, pays a lower tax rate than his secretary? Liberals are the biggest hypocrites in the universe.

Okay. You can d

so why aren't you educating them?

I'm in data. I'm not a teacher. All I can do is volunteer and vote.

who are you expecting to teach em then?

How about our useless fucking schools that no one else seems to care amount to little more than indoctrination tanks and debt-siphoning plantations? How about we start there? But where's the Trump administration on education? Betsy DeVoss, who doesn't know what the fuck she's doing, even on the off-chance her intentions are pure. How about training? Better bring back coal, even though the future is clearly in developing renewable resources, nuclear, and natural gas. Fuck, India and China are all over this shit. Where is our government? "Bring back coal!!" Oh, and we're not going to focus on training old workers with new skills, either" ... it's a joke.

We spend more money in education than any other country on earth and have piss poor results.

Only stupid Moon Bats want to throw more money at it.

Where did I say throw more money at it? Point that out to me because I'm not seeing it.

And the reason I'm not seeing it is because it was never mentioned.

well what did you imply then? I mean to me it's that the teachers unions suck. and yet the left support the shit out of em.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Well, everybody is gonna get hit with a higher inflation tax. lolol. Both parties are guilty of the same monetary policy. Which is really where the discussion should be.

The discussion should be why are we spending $4 trillion a year on the cost of the stupid Federal government?

That four trillion is more than the GDP of all but three other countries on earth. The cost of government is the usually the single largest expenditure of a family in the US, regardless of income.

Why isn't the discussion on how we are going to reduce Federal spending to a half or a third of what it is now? We could have Jim Dandy Federal government for half of what we spend now.

That is the only sane discussion to have. Anything else is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titantic.

We're spending money that we don't have. We're printing it. lolol. The dollar is down 98% since WWII and the poor, middle class, and seniors are being wiped out by inflation because of that monetary policy. They can't save anything. The rich, on the other hand, can. That's why they aren't affected by it. All of that money we print to monetize debt in the form of various Treasury bills and bonds goes to them first. It's a bipartisan, controlled, economic policy that will ultimately affect everyone once the dollar is completely toast.

 

[AntonToo]

...will the Democrat Party forever

NO.

Trump will forever be known as Goldman Sachs President.

Lets recall we've had tax-cuts since 2001, didn't fix economy or prevent 2008 collapse. Even a slight economic stall by 2020 (pretty much a given from historic business cycle perspective) will promptly eject him out of presidency and will FOREVER dispel the tax-cuts-fix-everything myths.

Lets recall we've had tax-cuts since 2001, didn't fix economy or prevent 2008 collapse.

Tax cuts are bad?

How old are you? 5? 6? You talk like it.

Not many economic policies worth even discussing are "bad!" or "good!" in absolute sense.

Tax-cuts are not some sort of magic beans, they are simply reductions in taxation with corresponding economic effects. There are situations where you want to raise taxes and there are economic conditions when it is good to reduce taxes - neither one is some sort of embodiment of the evil.

At the time Bush's tax-cuts were passed we were forecasted for SURPLUSES, so from fiscal perspective they were a-ok...except those forecasts turned to seas of red ink as economy crashed and we spent trillions on wars and Medicare Parb B reform and there was NEVER any correction to tax rates to pay for any of this (which is why it is so laughable that Republicans are promising such correction THIS TIME).

Were Bush's tax cuts specifically a good idea in the end? NO. They were a bad idea that greatly contributed to our deficits and now this travesty of a bill is just another round of doubling down on stupid.

 

[John Shaw]

[QUOT


Where did I say throw more money at it? Point that out to me because I'm not seeing it.

And the reason I'm not seeing it is because it was never mentioned.

Then you agree with me that the Liberals have fucked up education in this country and we should abolish the Department of Education because it is a waste of money. Good.

I agree that liberals fucked it up, republicans did nothing to stop it, tuition expenses are outrageously high for the low quality of education available, etc. ... the DOE has the potential to be a force for good, but it's currently useless,and has been for a very long time.

We need people who are serious about making our students competitive again to get in there and break up the party. Our schools are little more than counting houses these days.

 

[John Shaw]

Isn't it a hoot to hear these stupid Democrats bitch about tax cuts? Only an idiot would bitch about having taxes reduced.

I bet every one of the little bastards will sure as hell spend the money that get back in reduced taxes.

If they really believed the stupid shit they spout they would not participate in the tax reductions by sending in the money to the Treasury.

Some of us aren't over 50 years old. Some of us are in our 20's. Some of us actually have to build a life in this country still.

I understand how it's easy not to think long-term when you don't have that long of a term left, but for others, the future is everything. And while things are okay now, this much incompetence in government, and this disgusting tax bill ... it's going to hurt later on, big time.

But no one really expects boomers to care about anyone but themselves. Doesn't surprise me they can't see more than a few years down the road.

It sounds like you are a confused Moon Bat.

Lower taxes are good for everybody. They are good for me being a Baby Boomer. Even as a retiree I pay a ton in taxes and that is despicable. It is good for my working age children that is burdened with tremendous taxes and good for my grandchildren.

Good for how long? A few years? Sure. Can't argue with that. But when the debt blossoms even more out of control ... we're paying interest on that ... healthcare costs skyrocket ... we have to pay for the people without insurance in the ER ... etc. Things are not so simple. Everything has a consequence, and those consequences have consequences.

why not cut spending? why is that such a hard progressive step for you libs?

I'm all about cutting spending where it makes sense. Where did I say otherwise?

 

[bendog]

“Frankly, I think they are bonkers,” David Mendels, former chief executive officer of software firm Brightcove, said of the GOP banking on a lower corporate rate to generate bigger worker paychecks. “It really doesn’t work that way. No CEO sits there and says, ‘When my tax rate goes down, I’m going to hire more people and pay them more.’”

Tax legislation cleared a key procedural hurdle in the Senate on Wednesday ahead of a formal vote as early as Thursday. House and Senate lawmakers will need to convene in coming weeks to hash out a compromise between their two bills.

Even some Republicans seem deeply unconvinced by predictions from members of the Trump administration and more aggressive budget forecasters that slashing the top corporate rate from 35 percent to 20 percent will generate enough economic growth to offset the additional $1.5 trillion in debt the Senate tax plan envisions over the next decade.
GOP places risky bet on trickle-down tax cut

But growth is not the point of cutting taxes, lol.