Stigmatize

[theDoctorisIn]

No "lies" are needed to "stigmatize".

"Stigmatize" means "to mark", generally in a negative context. It comes from the Ancient Greek practice of branding slaves and criminals with a "stigma". This is also where the word "stigmata" comes from - it's the plural form of "stigma".

In this context, Obama is warning against "marking" the entire religion of Islam due to the actions of the few - which is of course exactly what you clowns are doing.

By calling Fort Hood Work place violence.............

Sorry............that dog doesn't hunt.............

I'd love it if you can find a single quote of Obama's referring to the Fort Hood shooting as "workplace violence".

(Hint: You can't, because he never said those words)

The DOJ and official stance was it was Work Place Violence..................That is how it was prosecuted.......(HINT.......you will ignore that)

Yes, that's how it was prosecuted - because there's no such thing as a charge of "terrorism" in the UCMJ, and he was tried by a military court martial.

Would you have preferred he be tried in a regular criminal court?

 

[eagle1462010]

Victims of ‘workplace violence’ incident at Fort Hood to finally receive Purple Heart - Hot Air

In 2012, nearly 150 Fort Hood victims and their family members filed suit against the Department of Defense, seeking compensation for their suffering and lost benefits. But the case has bogged down, and the Senate has balked at passing legislation that would give victims of the 2009 shooting the same benefits as soldiers killed or wounded in combat or terrorism attacks.


Obama is in charge of the government. The DOJ is under his authority.......These people were denied benefits via not classifying it as a terrorist attack......or dying in combat........SCREWED THE VICTIMS families.............


Victims of ‘workplace violence’ incident at Fort Hood to finally receive Purple Heart - Hot Air

“Despite extensive evidence that Hasan was in communication with al Qaeda leader Anwar al-Awlaki prior to the attack, the military has denied the victims a Purple Heart and has treated the incident as ‘workplace violence’ instead of ‘combat related’ or terrorism,” ABC News reported in 2013.

On Friday, the Pentagon changed its tune. After the U.S. Senate passed the Defense Reauthorization bill in December that included a provision reclassifying the Fort Hood attack an act of domestic terrorism rather than anodyne and non-specific “workplace violence,” it freed the Pentagon’s hand to honor the attack’s wounded veterans in a way they deserve.


Reclassified finally after calling it domestic terrorism................His PC stance screwed the families of the victims.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Victims of ‘workplace violence’ incident at Fort Hood to finally receive Purple Heart - Hot Air

In 2012, nearly 150 Fort Hood victims and their family members filed suit against the Department of Defense, seeking compensation for their suffering and lost benefits. But the case has bogged down, and the Senate has balked at passing legislation that would give victims of the 2009 shooting the same benefits as soldiers killed or wounded in combat or terrorism attacks.


Obama is in charge of the government. The DOJ is under his authority.......These people were denied benefits via not classifying it as a terrorist attack......or dying in combat........SCREWED THE VICTIMS families.............


Victims of ‘workplace violence’ incident at Fort Hood to finally receive Purple Heart - Hot Air

“Despite extensive evidence that Hasan was in communication with al Qaeda leader Anwar al-Awlaki prior to the attack, the military has denied the victims a Purple Heart and has treated the incident as ‘workplace violence’ instead of ‘combat related’ or terrorism,” ABC News reported in 2013.

On Friday, the Pentagon changed its tune. After the U.S. Senate passed the Defense Reauthorization bill in December that included a provision reclassifying the Fort Hood attack an act of domestic terrorism rather than anodyne and non-specific “workplace violence,” it freed the Pentagon’s hand to honor the attack’s wounded veterans in a way they deserve.


Reclassified finally after calling it domestic terrorism................His PC stance screwed the families of the victims.

You seemed to have missed the point. All of the drama you're posting is political theater and nothing more.

If not "workplace violence", what UCMJ charges do you believe should have been brought against Major Hassan? Or should he have been charged in a regular criminal court?

 

[eagle1462010]

No "lies" are needed to "stigmatize".

"Stigmatize" means "to mark", generally in a negative context. It comes from the Ancient Greek practice of branding slaves and criminals with a "stigma". This is also where the word "stigmata" comes from - it's the plural form of "stigma".

In this context, Obama is warning against "marking" the entire religion of Islam due to the actions of the few - which is of course exactly what you clowns are doing.

By calling Fort Hood Work place violence.............

Sorry............that dog doesn't hunt.............

I'd love it if you can find a single quote of Obama's referring to the Fort Hood shooting as "workplace violence".

(Hint: You can't, because he never said those words)

The DOJ and official stance was it was Work Place Violence..................That is how it was prosecuted.......(HINT.......you will ignore that)

Yes, that's how it was prosecuted - because there's no such thing as a charge of "terrorism" in the UCMJ, and he was tried by a military court martial.

Would you have preferred he be tried in a regular criminal court?

The USMJ has many laws with which they could have prosecuted him for.................Treason.............would be one............In a time of War aiding and abetting the enemy is Treason and the penalty is death.............He was in contact with the enemy when he joined them............

The Obama administration tries to water this shit down, and he fucked the families in the process.

 

[eagle1462010]

Victims of ‘workplace violence’ incident at Fort Hood to finally receive Purple Heart - Hot Air

In 2012, nearly 150 Fort Hood victims and their family members filed suit against the Department of Defense, seeking compensation for their suffering and lost benefits. But the case has bogged down, and the Senate has balked at passing legislation that would give victims of the 2009 shooting the same benefits as soldiers killed or wounded in combat or terrorism attacks.


Obama is in charge of the government. The DOJ is under his authority.......These people were denied benefits via not classifying it as a terrorist attack......or dying in combat........SCREWED THE VICTIMS families.............


Victims of ‘workplace violence’ incident at Fort Hood to finally receive Purple Heart - Hot Air

“Despite extensive evidence that Hasan was in communication with al Qaeda leader Anwar al-Awlaki prior to the attack, the military has denied the victims a Purple Heart and has treated the incident as ‘workplace violence’ instead of ‘combat related’ or terrorism,” ABC News reported in 2013.

On Friday, the Pentagon changed its tune. After the U.S. Senate passed the Defense Reauthorization bill in December that included a provision reclassifying the Fort Hood attack an act of domestic terrorism rather than anodyne and non-specific “workplace violence,” it freed the Pentagon’s hand to honor the attack’s wounded veterans in a way they deserve.


Reclassified finally after calling it domestic terrorism................His PC stance screwed the families of the victims.

You seemed to have missed the point. All of the drama you're posting is political theater and nothing more.

If not "workplace violence", what UCMJ charges do you believe should have been brought against Major Hassan? Or should he have been charged in a regular criminal court?

punishment for treason « Search Results « UCMJ – United States Code of Military Justice

906a. ARTICLE 106a. ESPIONAGE
by admin on Jul.21, 2010, under 10. Punitive Articles

(a) (1) Any person subject to this chapter who, with intent or reason to believe that it is to be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of a foreign nation, communicates, delivers, or transmits, or attempts to communicate, deliver, or transmit, to any entity described in paragraph (2), either directly or indirectly, any thing described in paragraph (3) shall be punished as a court-martial may direct, except that if the accused is found guilty of an offense that directly concerns (A) nuclear weaponry, military spacecraft or satellites, early warning systems, or other means of defense or retaliation against large scale attack, (B) war plans, (C) communications intelligence or cryptographic information, or (D) any other major weapons system or major element of defense strategy, the accused shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court- martial may direct.

(2) An entity referred to in paragraph (1) is–

(A) a foreign government;

(B) a faction or party or military force within a foreign country, whether recognized or unrecognized by the United States

(C) a representative, officer, agent, employee, subject, or citizen of such government, faction, party, or force.

 

[eagle1462010]

And then lined up against a wall and shot for Treason...............clear it up for you..........Doc.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

No "lies" are needed to "stigmatize".

"Stigmatize" means "to mark", generally in a negative context. It comes from the Ancient Greek practice of branding slaves and criminals with a "stigma". This is also where the word "stigmata" comes from - it's the plural form of "stigma".

In this context, Obama is warning against "marking" the entire religion of Islam due to the actions of the few - which is of course exactly what you clowns are doing.

By calling Fort Hood Work place violence.............

Sorry............that dog doesn't hunt.............

I'd love it if you can find a single quote of Obama's referring to the Fort Hood shooting as "workplace violence".

(Hint: You can't, because he never said those words)

The DOJ and official stance was it was Work Place Violence..................That is how it was prosecuted.......(HINT.......you will ignore that)

Yes, that's how it was prosecuted - because there's no such thing as a charge of "terrorism" in the UCMJ, and he was tried by a military court martial.

Would you have preferred he be tried in a regular criminal court?

The USMJ has many laws with which they could have prosecuted him for.................Treason.............would be one............In a time of War aiding and abetting the enemy is Treason and the penalty is death.............He was in contact with the enemy when he joined them............

The Obama administration tries to water this shit down, and he fucked the families in the process.

There is no UCMJ charge of "Treason". Would you like to try again?

Here's a reference for you, if you'd like: UCMJ – United States Code of Military Justice

 

[JakeStarkey]

DarkFury, your OP is a comparison fallacy.

Jihadists, not everyday Muslims who are lawabing citizens, flew those planes into the Towers.

We have had 42 deaths in America motivated by jihad in five years.

You need to compare that in the same period to the numbers of deaths caused by Christians or Jews or Pagans for religious reasons.

When you do that you will have an OP worthy of consideration.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Victims of ‘workplace violence’ incident at Fort Hood to finally receive Purple Heart - Hot Air

In 2012, nearly 150 Fort Hood victims and their family members filed suit against the Department of Defense, seeking compensation for their suffering and lost benefits. But the case has bogged down, and the Senate has balked at passing legislation that would give victims of the 2009 shooting the same benefits as soldiers killed or wounded in combat or terrorism attacks.


Obama is in charge of the government. The DOJ is under his authority.......These people were denied benefits via not classifying it as a terrorist attack......or dying in combat........SCREWED THE VICTIMS families.............


Victims of ‘workplace violence’ incident at Fort Hood to finally receive Purple Heart - Hot Air

“Despite extensive evidence that Hasan was in communication with al Qaeda leader Anwar al-Awlaki prior to the attack, the military has denied the victims a Purple Heart and has treated the incident as ‘workplace violence’ instead of ‘combat related’ or terrorism,” ABC News reported in 2013.

On Friday, the Pentagon changed its tune. After the U.S. Senate passed the Defense Reauthorization bill in December that included a provision reclassifying the Fort Hood attack an act of domestic terrorism rather than anodyne and non-specific “workplace violence,” it freed the Pentagon’s hand to honor the attack’s wounded veterans in a way they deserve.


Reclassified finally after calling it domestic terrorism................His PC stance screwed the families of the victims.

You seemed to have missed the point. All of the drama you're posting is political theater and nothing more.

If not "workplace violence", what UCMJ charges do you believe should have been brought against Major Hassan? Or should he have been charged in a regular criminal court?

punishment for treason « Search Results « UCMJ – United States Code of Military Justice

906a. ARTICLE 106a. ESPIONAGE
by admin on Jul.21, 2010, under 10. Punitive Articles

(a) (1) Any person subject to this chapter who, with intent or reason to believe that it is to be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of a foreign nation, communicates, delivers, or transmits, or attempts to communicate, deliver, or transmit, to any entity described in paragraph (2), either directly or indirectly, any thing described in paragraph (3) shall be punished as a court-martial may direct, except that if the accused is found guilty of an offense that directly concerns (A) nuclear weaponry, military spacecraft or satellites, early warning systems, or other means of defense or retaliation against large scale attack, (B) war plans, (C) communications intelligence or cryptographic information, or (D) any other major weapons system or major element of defense strategy, the accused shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court- martial may direct.

(2) An entity referred to in paragraph (1) is–

(A) a foreign government;

(B) a faction or party or military force within a foreign country, whether recognized or unrecognized by the United States

(C) a representative, officer, agent, employee, subject, or citizen of such government, faction, party, or force.

Did you bother to read that before you posted it?

"Espionage" is not the same thing as "treason" - and there is no way that Hassan would have been convicted of "espionage", since he didn't "communicate, deliver, or transmit, or attempt to communicate, deliver, or transmit" any information about nuclear weaponry, military spacecraft, or anything else outlined in that law.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

And then lined up against a wall and shot for Treason...............clear it up for you..........Doc.

Again, there's no such charge in the UCMJ.

 

[Martin Eden Mercury]

By Patrick Goodenough | December 7, 2015 | 4:10 AM EST
(CNSNews.com) – More than six years after a Muslim army major shot dead 13 people at Fort Hood, President Obama on Sunday night – for what may be the first time – publicly identified it as a terrorist attack.

In his primetime Oval Office address on the threat of terrorism in the wake of last week’s attack in San Bernardino, California, Obama said the threat had evolved in the years since 9/11.

“As we’ve become better at preventing complex attacks like 9/11, terrorists turn to less complicated acts of violence like the mass shootings that are all too common in our society,” he said. “It is this type of attack that we saw at Fort Hood in 2009, in Chattanooga earlier this year and now in San Bernardino.”

 

[eagle1462010]

By calling Fort Hood Work place violence.............

Sorry............that dog doesn't hunt.............

I'd love it if you can find a single quote of Obama's referring to the Fort Hood shooting as "workplace violence".

(Hint: You can't, because he never said those words)

The DOJ and official stance was it was Work Place Violence..................That is how it was prosecuted.......(HINT.......you will ignore that)

Yes, that's how it was prosecuted - because there's no such thing as a charge of "terrorism" in the UCMJ, and he was tried by a military court martial.

Would you have preferred he be tried in a regular criminal court?

The USMJ has many laws with which they could have prosecuted him for.................Treason.............would be one............In a time of War aiding and abetting the enemy is Treason and the penalty is death.............He was in contact with the enemy when he joined them............

The Obama administration tries to water this shit down, and he fucked the families in the process.

There is no UCMJ charge of "Treason". Would you like to try again?

Here's a reference for you, if you'd like: UCMJ – United States Code of Military Justice

904. ARTICLE 104. AIDING THE ENEMY « UCMJ – United States Code of Military Justice

He certainly aided the enemy now didn't he................article 904 ...punishment is DEATH...........

 

[theDoctorisIn]

To be clear, the charges against Hassan were 13 counts of premeditated murder, and 23 counts of attempted murder.

 

[eagle1462010]

And then lined up against a wall and shot for Treason...............clear it up for you..........Doc.

Again, there's no such charge in the UCMJ.

I just gave you 2 charges that could have been used to give him a sentence of death.........

Espionage........he consorted with the enemy.

Aiding the enemy................both allow the death penalty under the USMJ

Workplace violence charges are CHICKEN SHIT.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I'd love it if you can find a single quote of Obama's referring to the Fort Hood shooting as "workplace violence".

(Hint: You can't, because he never said those words)

The DOJ and official stance was it was Work Place Violence..................That is how it was prosecuted.......(HINT.......you will ignore that)

Yes, that's how it was prosecuted - because there's no such thing as a charge of "terrorism" in the UCMJ, and he was tried by a military court martial.

Would you have preferred he be tried in a regular criminal court?

The USMJ has many laws with which they could have prosecuted him for.................Treason.............would be one............In a time of War aiding and abetting the enemy is Treason and the penalty is death.............He was in contact with the enemy when he joined them............

The Obama administration tries to water this shit down, and he fucked the families in the process.

There is no UCMJ charge of "Treason". Would you like to try again?

Here's a reference for you, if you'd like: UCMJ – United States Code of Military Justice

904. ARTICLE 104. AIDING THE ENEMY « UCMJ – United States Code of Military Justice

He certainly aided the enemy now didn't he................article 904 ...punishment is DEATH...........

You know that Hassan was already sentenced to death, right?

 

[eagle1462010]

To be clear, the charges against Hassan were 13 counts of premeditated murder, and 23 counts of attempted murder.

and the USMJ could have used 2 of the ones I just stated and hung him for them as well.

Workplace violence...................is exactly what this thread is about...........Obama is a joke.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

And then lined up against a wall and shot for Treason...............clear it up for you..........Doc.

Again, there's no such charge in the UCMJ.

I just gave you 2 charges that could have been used to give him a sentence of death.........

Espionage........he consorted with the enemy.

Aiding the enemy................both allow the death penalty under the USMJ

Workplace violence charges are CHICKEN SHIT.

The UCMJ doesn't have a charge called "Workplace violence", either. Hassan was tried for premeditated murder and attempted murder, and was sentenced to death.

 

[eagle1462010]

The DOJ and official stance was it was Work Place Violence..................That is how it was prosecuted.......(HINT.......you will ignore that)

Yes, that's how it was prosecuted - because there's no such thing as a charge of "terrorism" in the UCMJ, and he was tried by a military court martial.

Would you have preferred he be tried in a regular criminal court?

The USMJ has many laws with which they could have prosecuted him for.................Treason.............would be one............In a time of War aiding and abetting the enemy is Treason and the penalty is death.............He was in contact with the enemy when he joined them............

The Obama administration tries to water this shit down, and he fucked the families in the process.

There is no UCMJ charge of "Treason". Would you like to try again?

Here's a reference for you, if you'd like: UCMJ – United States Code of Military Justice

904. ARTICLE 104. AIDING THE ENEMY « UCMJ – United States Code of Military Justice

He certainly aided the enemy now didn't he................article 904 ...punishment is DEATH...........

You know that Hassan was already sentenced to death, right?

Of course I do you idiot.........

You know the Governments charging it this way screwed the victims families.........RIGHT..............

 

[theDoctorisIn]

To be clear, the charges against Hassan were 13 counts of premeditated murder, and 23 counts of attempted murder.

and the USMJ could have used 2 of the ones I just stated and hung him for them as well.

Workplace violence...................is exactly what this thread is about...........Obama is a joke.

Calling it "workplace violence" is a fiction of the rightwing blogosphere.

Hassan was charged with, and convicted of, murder.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Yes, that's how it was prosecuted - because there's no such thing as a charge of "terrorism" in the UCMJ, and he was tried by a military court martial.

Would you have preferred he be tried in a regular criminal court?

The USMJ has many laws with which they could have prosecuted him for.................Treason.............would be one............In a time of War aiding and abetting the enemy is Treason and the penalty is death.............He was in contact with the enemy when he joined them............

The Obama administration tries to water this shit down, and he fucked the families in the process.

There is no UCMJ charge of "Treason". Would you like to try again?

Here's a reference for you, if you'd like: UCMJ – United States Code of Military Justice

904. ARTICLE 104. AIDING THE ENEMY « UCMJ – United States Code of Military Justice

He certainly aided the enemy now didn't he................article 904 ...punishment is DEATH...........

You know that Hassan was already sentenced to death, right?

Of course I do you idiot.........

You know the Governments charging it this way screwed the victims families.........RIGHT..............

No, that's another lie you've been fed.

Those soldiers wouldn't have gotten Purple Hearts had Hassan been tried with "Espionage" or "Aiding the Enemy", either.