Supreme Court Allows Semi Automatic Gun Ban

[Skull Pilot]

It is stoopid to deny less guns means less homicides. It is just plain common sense that less guns means less homicides.

Just like less swimming pools would mean less drownings.

Or less cars would mean less accidental deaths.

To deny reality is to undermine your integrity and look like an idiot.

OK So today in the USA the Murder rate is almost exactly what it was in 1950.

Are there more guns now or less guns?

 

[Fenton Lum]

Did you get that "data" when you went to your bathroom and squatted for a while???

Of course, "mass murders" will never be completely eliminated....BUT, the carnage in New Town and Orlando have shown us that a military style of weapon manufactured ONLY for the purpose of killing many, many people in the shortest amount of time, should NEVER be so easily purchased.

Actually, it showed us that Gun Free Zones are easy targets, and not having weapons ensures your death if someone targets you. Of course, expecting a Democrat to think logically is like expecting a one-legged man to win a rear-kicking contest.

This whole "gun free zones are easy targets" thing is bullshit.

These mass shooters are not choosing their targets because they are gun free zones. They are choosing targets with which they are very familiar. It's almost always their workplace or their school or some other place they know well.

It has nothing to do with being a "gun free zone".

no it's just a coincidence that the most deadly shootings happen in gun free zones

Could you link us to those studies please? Not media reports, but the actual primary research.

So Pulse was not a gun free zone? Or was it not the deadliest shooting?

Here's what I responded to, it was above, perhaps you missed it.

"no it's just a coincidence that the most deadly shootings happen in gun free zones"

I'd like to see the primary research. Don't know what that answer is, but a claim on a chat board ain't verification. Nor is a media report interpretation of any data.

 

[1stRambo]

For the second year in a row the supreme court refused to reverse a ban on assault weapons and high capacity clips.

Banning weapons works.

When was the last time anyone used a Thompson machine gun or had one? They were banned in the 1930s.

When as the last time anyone used a fully automatic weapon? They were banned in the 80s, ronald reagan signed the ban.

Now if we can get all those weapons banned nation wide we will see the mass murders decrease and eventually stop.

Roberts' S.Ct. upholds 2 states assault rifle ban in News Forum

Yo, that will not stop nothing, to many "Gun Smugglers" around, you know? The Black Market!!!

"GTP"

 

[nat4900]

The Charleston church mass killer used two handguns. No assault weapon.

The Roseburg, Oregon mass killer used five handguns. No assault weapon.

The Virginia Tech mass killer used two handguns. No assault weapon.

The Isla Vista mass killer used two knives, three handguns, and a BMW sedan. No assault weapon.

The Fort Hood mass killer used two handguns. No assault weapon.

The Washington Navy Yard mass killer used a shotgun and a handgun. No assault weapon.

Of those killings above, tell us if the murders were like in New Town (26) or Orlando (49 plus)????

 

[g5000]

Here is the UK homicide rate over a period of decades.

As you can see, it was rising until the gun ban, and has been falling ever since.

The US is not the UK.

I'm not the one who brought up the UK. Nice try!

Speaking of the US, notice the homicide rate has been declining since the passage of the Brady Bill in 1993:

wrong....there were 2 million people carrying concealed weapons in the 1990s....in 2007 there were 4.7 million carrying guns for self defense, and in 2016...there are now 13million Americans carrying guns for self defense...and the gun murder rate, the violent crime rate and the gun crime rate all went down....showing that you are talking out of your ass when it comes to guns.....

And we went from 320,000,000 million guns in 2013 to 357,000,000 guns in private hands in 2016....and our gun murder rate went down..

Nothing you guys say about the gun issue is accurate or factual.

I already posted the proof that less Americans own guns, dummy. You're too late, and looking stupid.


If ten out of twenty people own guns, and those ten people own 40 guns, that is a 50 percent ownership rate, with 2 guns per capita.

If you fast forward 40 years and five out of twenty people own guns, and those five people own 80 guns, that is a 25 percent ownership rate, with 4 guns per capita. You have had a 50 percent decline in gun ownership, but those who own guns just own more of them.

Less people own guns. That's a fact. Just because you own ten guns instead of two doesn't mean gun ownership has risen. It just means the people who do own guns own more of them.

But the number of people in a crowd owning a gun is much lower than before.

Fact.

 

[2aguy]

Here is the UK homicide rate over a period of decades.

As you can see, it was rising until the gun ban, and has been falling ever since.

The gun confiscation in Britain was in 1997...notice that the gun crime rate spiked and then returned to it's regular level...

Firearms policy in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

until last year....violent crime in Britain increased 27%...and gun crime increased 4%....

The british police are now facing more fully automatic rifles being used against them, and they are being used more often against police....

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Now if we can get all those weapons banned nation wide we will see the mass murders decrease and eventually stop.

Wow. You really drank the anti-gun piss. Mass murders will not decrease, much less stop, if you ban "assault weapons".

If you get rid of the assault weapons, people won't have them to commit mass murder. Logically, if you don't have the weapons you won't be able to do what happened in Orlando, Sandy Hook, Aurora and so many other places in our nation where large number of innocent people are murdered in a matter of minutes.

So you want my deer rifles ?

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Mass murders will not decrease, much less stop, if you ban "assault weapons".

Did you get that "data" when you went to your bathroom and squatted for a while???

Of course, "mass murders" will never be completely eliminated....BUT, the carnage in New Town and Orlando have shown us that a military style of weapon manufactured ONLY for the purpose of killing many, many people in the shortest amount of time, should NEVER be so easily purchased.

Actually, it showed us that Gun Free Zones are easy targets, and not having weapons ensures your death if someone targets you. Of course, expecting a Democrat to think logically is like expecting a one-legged man to win a rear-kicking contest.

This whole "gun free zones are easy targets" thing is bullshit. It's a stupid meme intentionally created to make retards believe more guns means more safety, when the opposite is true.

These mass shooters are not choosing their targets because they are gun free zones. They are choosing targets with which they are very familiar. It's almost always their workplace or their school or some other place they know well.

It has nothing to do with being a "gun free zone".

You're totally right(Sarcasm), they prefer a higher chance of being shot back at. You're funny. 100% by chance, it's not as though the most recent mass shooting scouted the location multiple times before gunning them all down. I guess he must not have known it was a gun free zone, or he probably would have chosen a place that allows concealed carry, so he could be shot by the patrons(More sarcasm).

 

[2aguy]

The Charleston church mass killer used two handguns. No assault weapon.

The Roseburg, Oregon mass killer used five handguns. No assault weapon.

The Virginia Tech mass killer used two handguns. No assault weapon.

The Isla Vista mass killer used two knives, three handguns, and a BMW sedan. No assault weapon.

The Fort Hood mass killer used two handguns. No assault weapon.

The Washington Navy Yard mass killer used a shotgun and a handgun. No assault weapon.

Of those killings above, tell us if the murders were like in New Town (26) or Orlando (49 plus)????

Virginina tech moron.....32 people were killed........with pistols....and Newton and Orlando could have been done with pistols and shotguns moron.......

 

[Dekster]

70% of Americans support some form of additional restrictions on guns, including the majority in both parties. The NRA just screams "Bans!" at the top of their lungs as a desperate attempt to thwart the will of the majority and the legal precedents that allow for additional regulations.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Actually, it showed us that Gun Free Zones are easy targets, and not having weapons ensures your death if someone targets you. Of course, expecting a Democrat to think logically is like expecting a one-legged man to win a rear-kicking contest.

This whole "gun free zones are easy targets" thing is bullshit.

These mass shooters are not choosing their targets because they are gun free zones. They are choosing targets with which they are very familiar. It's almost always their workplace or their school or some other place they know well.

It has nothing to do with being a "gun free zone".

no it's just a coincidence that the most deadly shootings happen in gun free zones

Could you link us to those studies please? Not media reports, but the actual primary research.

So Pulse was not a gun free zone? Or was it not the deadliest shooting?

Here's what I responded to, it was above, perhaps you missed it.

"no it's just a coincidence that the most deadly shootings happen in gun free zones"

I'd like to see the primary research. Don't know what that answer is, but a claim on a chat board ain't verification. Nor is a media report interpretation of any data.

I really don't give a shit what you would like to see.

 

[easyt65]

So you want my deer rifles ?

Eventually, yes.

 

[koshergrl]

For the second year in a row the supreme court refused to reverse a ban on assault weapons and high capacity clips.

Wish we could vote all of those people off the court.

Banning weapons works.

It has literally never worked, the results of gun laws have shown us they don't work, we have statistics showing they don't work, you'd have to be high as a kite to think they've worked. Speaking of which, you wouldn't happen to be high, would you?

When was the last time anyone used a Thompson machine gun or had one? They were banned in the 1930s.

You mean those obsolete weapons? I'm so surprised nobody uses them, how strange.

When as the last time anyone used a fully automatic weapon? They were banned in the 80s, ronald reagan signed the ban.

Wednesday, March 9th, 2016.

Now if we can get all those weapons banned nation wide we will see the mass murders decrease and eventually stop.

No, we'll see more mass murders, because criminals would obtain them illegally, and now nobody could defend themselves.

You can't vote them off. You can't vote them in. Our SENATE is supposed to stop them when they grab too much power..and they have refused to do so. Because the SENATORS are a bunch of crooks that rely on the crooked and insane justices to protect their interests.

 

[g5000]

It is stoopid to deny less guns means less homicides. It is just plain common sense that less guns means less homicides.

Just like less swimming pools would mean less drownings.

Or less cars would mean less accidental deaths.

To deny reality is to undermine your integrity and look like an idiot.

OK So today in the USA the Murder rate is almost exactly what it was in 1950.

Are there more guns now or less guns?

The murder rate is declining, when it used to be climbing.

You are exposing your innumeracy.

 

[2aguy]

Here is the UK homicide rate over a period of decades.

As you can see, it was rising until the gun ban, and has been falling ever since.

The US is not the UK.

I'm not the one who brought up the UK. Nice try!

Speaking of the US, notice the homicide rate has been declining since the passage of the Brady Bill in 1993:

wrong....there were 2 million people carrying concealed weapons in the 1990s....in 2007 there were 4.7 million carrying guns for self defense, and in 2016...there are now 13million Americans carrying guns for self defense...and the gun murder rate, the violent crime rate and the gun crime rate all went down....showing that you are talking out of your ass when it comes to guns.....

And we went from 320,000,000 million guns in 2013 to 357,000,000 guns in private hands in 2016....and our gun murder rate went down..

Nothing you guys say about the gun issue is accurate or factual.

I already posted the proof that less Americans own guns, dummy. You're too late, and looking stupid.


If ten out of twenty people own guns, and those ten people own 40 guns, that is a 50 percent ownership rate, with 2 guns per capita.

If you fast forward 40 years and five out of twenty people own guns, and those five people own 80 guns, that is a 25 percent ownership rate, with 4 guns per capita. You have had a 50 percent decline in gun ownership, but those who own guns just own more of them.

Less people own guns. That's a fact. Just because you own ten guns instead of two doesn't mean gun ownership has risen. It just means the people who do own guns own more of them.

But the number of people in a crowd owning a gun is much lower than before.

Fact.

No moron, more Americans actually own guns than ever before, they are answering surveys less..........gun owners are not answering the questions of faceless people on telephones on wether they own guns or not.....

The only reason anti gunners say there are less guns is because they all post the General Social Survey.....which is done by an rabid anti gunner who wants to use his information to encourage politicians to pass more gun laws......

And please...tell us how gun confication worked in Britain...since, according to the chart you posted, their gun crime rate didn't change...after it initally spiked after the ban....

And now it is up 4%....

Please...do tell.....

 

[g5000]

Mass murders will not decrease, much less stop, if you ban "assault weapons".

Did you get that "data" when you went to your bathroom and squatted for a while???

Of course, "mass murders" will never be completely eliminated....BUT, the carnage in New Town and Orlando have shown us that a military style of weapon manufactured ONLY for the purpose of killing many, many people in the shortest amount of time, should NEVER be so easily purchased.

Actually, it showed us that Gun Free Zones are easy targets, and not having weapons ensures your death if someone targets you. Of course, expecting a Democrat to think logically is like expecting a one-legged man to win a rear-kicking contest.

This whole "gun free zones are easy targets" thing is bullshit. It's a stupid meme intentionally created to make retards believe more guns means more safety, when the opposite is true.

These mass shooters are not choosing their targets because they are gun free zones. They are choosing targets with which they are very familiar. It's almost always their workplace or their school or some other place they know well.

It has nothing to do with being a "gun free zone".

You're totally right(Sarcasm), they prefer a higher chance of being shot back at. You're funny. 100% by chance, it's not as though the most recent mass shooting scouted the location multiple times before gunning them all down. I guess he must not have known it was a gun free zone, or he probably would have chosen a place that allows concealed carry, so he could be shot by the patrons(More sarcasm).

Mass shooters are suicidal. They WANT to die. So what makes you think "gun free zone" has fuck-all to do with their choice of target?

It doesn't.

They almost always pick a venue with which they are very familiar. THAT is the primary factor.

 

[nat4900]

You can get a fully automatic weapon but you have to get a special license from the government. I know you guys believe that the court should rule over this country but it is actually a state's right to have laws regulating as much firearms as they want. It is under the tenth amendment, the limited powers of the federal, and the fact that no where in the constitution does it say a state can't ban a firearm if it chose to. The decision was correct.

If you and your ilk used the other half of your brain, you too could figure out that a state's ban will NOT work as long as we have open highways interlacing ALL of our states....Washington DC, for example, can enact all the bans through ordinances that it may wish, but a car load of guns from Virginia renders those bans meaningless.

 

[2aguy]

Notice, also, the homicide rate has been dropping as the percentage of US households that own guns has been dropping:

Yeah...told you.....the General Social Survey.....rabid anti gunner in charge, and the Violence policy center...another rabid anti gun group........those charts aren't worth the screen time buddy....

 

[easyt65]

Obama has armed Mexican Drug cartels, resulting in over 500 deaths to include 5 Americans.
Obama has armed the terrorist group, The Muslim Brotherhood
Obama has armed Al Qaeida, who perpetrated 9/11/01 & 9/11/12, the group who killed over 3,000 Americans.
Obama has armed ISIS, responsible for countless deaths to include Americans.

I am all for Gun Control.
I don't believe Obama or his administration should be allowed to own, have in their possession, have any control over, be allowed to handle, or be allowed to give / sell guns to anyone without SERIOUS adult supervision.

 

[nat4900]

No, I read the facts, retard. I know the anti-gun crowd has you bleeving every shooting in America is done with an AR-15, but those are the exception, not the rule.

And.....asshole, we are talking about CURTAILING those "exceptions" and NOT banning all guns.