EriktheRed
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Is it really that difficult to say good things about people who established our Republic and have ensured our liberty from then till now?
No.
Is this only about the Founders?
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Is it really that difficult to say good things about people who established our Republic and have ensured our liberty from then till now?
Alec Baldwin is a loser...relegated to doing commercials.Oh good grief...the Hufferpost AGAIN..
Yes, and as usual, it has live source links...
yeah right. with a little of their own warped interpretation thrown in..
I mean, Alec Baldwin post article for them...
What part of dragged out of their own country, forced to lose their family and forced into a situation where they are nothing more than a piece of property that works for nothing to make a white man richer is the "good part"?
As far as Native Americans... what part of a group of people coming in, taking over their traditional homeland, forcing them to worship a God they don't understand, and herding them to Oklahoma via the trail of tears is the "good Part"?
If we would have learned to assimilate with them and share knowledge and ideologies... you know... treat them as equals? You probably wouldn't be whining about how unfairly us white people are being treated in history books.
Perhaps you should do some research and stop believing what Liberal Class warfare Artists are telling you they want. They do not want, and are not asking, that Kids be taught slavery was "good"
Why the hell am I wasting my time with you clear Hyper Partisan Left wing Loons. The truth could smack you across the face and you would deny anything happened so you could twist it into proof anyone who is not a liberal is a Racists Pig.
Oh good grief...the Hufferpost AGAIN..
Yes, and as usual, it has live source links...
yeah right. with a little of their own warped interpretation thrown in..
I mean, Alec Baldwin post article for them...
Slavery is a deep, dark, nasty part of american history. A country founded on freedom CANNOT in any way defend ANY slave owners. Slavery in my mind should be taught for everything that was so terribly wrong with it. This is an easy one.
By Trymaine Lee
A little more than a year after the conservative-led state board of education in Texas approved massive changes to its school textbooks to put slavery in a more positive light, a group of Tea Party activists in Tennessee has renewed its push to whitewash school textbooks. The group is seeking to remove references to slavery and mentions of the country's founders being slave owners.
According to reports, Hal Rounds, the Fayette County attorney and spokesman for the group, said during a recent news conference that there has been "an awful lot of made-up criticism about, for instance, the founders intruding on the Indians or having slaves or being hypocrites in one way or another."
"The thing we need to focus on about the founders is that, given the social structure of their time, they were revolutionaries who brought liberty into a world where it hadn't existed, to everybody -- not all equally instantly -- and it was their progress that we need to look at," Rounds said, according to The Commercial Appeal.
During the news conference more than two dozen Tea Party activists handed out material that said, "Neglect and outright ill will have distorted the teaching of the history and character of the United States. We seek to compel the teaching of students in Tennessee the truth regarding the history of our nation and the nature of its government."
And that further teaching would also include that "the Constitution created a Republic, not a Democracy."
The group demanded, as they had in January of last year, that Tennessee lawmakers change state laws governing school curricula. The group called for textbook selection criteria to include: "No portrayal of minority experience in the history which actually occurred shall obscure the experience or contributions of the Founding Fathers, or the majority of citizens, including those who reached positions of leadership."
More: Tea Party Groups In Tennessee Demand Textbooks Overlook U.S. Founder's Slave-Owning History
Supporting Links:
Tennessee Tea Parties demand textbooks contain no mean things about Founding Fathers - Tea Parties - Salon.com
Tea parties issue demands to Tennessee legislators » The Commercial Appeal
By Trymaine Lee
A little more than a year after the conservative-led state board of education in Texas approved massive changes to its school textbooks to put slavery in a more positive light, a group of Tea Party activists in Tennessee has renewed its push to whitewash school textbooks. The group is seeking to remove references to slavery and mentions of the country's founders being slave owners.
According to reports, Hal Rounds, the Fayette County attorney and spokesman for the group, said during a recent news conference that there has been "an awful lot of made-up criticism about, for instance, the founders intruding on the Indians or having slaves or being hypocrites in one way or another."
"The thing we need to focus on about the founders is that, given the social structure of their time, they were revolutionaries who brought liberty into a world where it hadn't existed, to everybody -- not all equally instantly -- and it was their progress that we need to look at," Rounds said, according to The Commercial Appeal.
During the news conference more than two dozen Tea Party activists handed out material that said, "Neglect and outright ill will have distorted the teaching of the history and character of the United States. We seek to compel the teaching of students in Tennessee the truth regarding the history of our nation and the nature of its government."
And that further teaching would also include that "the Constitution created a Republic, not a Democracy."
The group demanded, as they had in January of last year, that Tennessee lawmakers change state laws governing school curricula. The group called for textbook selection criteria to include: "No portrayal of minority experience in the history which actually occurred shall obscure the experience or contributions of the Founding Fathers, or the majority of citizens, including those who reached positions of leadership."
More: Tea Party Groups In Tennessee Demand Textbooks Overlook U.S. Founder's Slave-Owning History
Supporting Links:
Tennessee Tea Parties demand textbooks contain no mean things about Founding Fathers - Tea Parties - Salon.com
Tea parties issue demands to Tennessee legislators » The Commercial Appeal
Yes, and as usual, it has live source links...
yeah right. with a little of their own warped interpretation thrown in..
I mean, Alec Baldwin post article for them...
If you have any disagreements or additional information that might shed more light on the subject and refrain from all that grandstanding and shooting the messenger then ppl might pay more attention to you, Stevie. btw, I gave a big WUZZUP earlier in this thread.
Slavery is a deep, dark, nasty part of american history. A country founded on freedom CANNOT in any way defend ANY slave owners. Slavery in my mind should be taught for everything that was so terribly wrong with it. This is an easy one.
And the Founders knew it had to be done away with if a free nation was to be...Southern States had other ideas...eventually it was.
Read the 3/5ths compromise sometime.
yeah right. with a little of their own warped interpretation thrown in..
I mean, Alec Baldwin post article for them...
If you have any disagreements or additional information that might shed more light on the subject and refrain from all that grandstanding and shooting the messenger then ppl might pay more attention to you, Stevie. btw, I gave a big WUZZUP earlier in this thread.
Hey Psycho man, long time no see..Hope things have been good for you..
as for this subject of the thread, I'll wait until it comes from a MORE reputable source.
good to see you around again, I think...
If you have any disagreements or additional information that might shed more light on the subject and refrain from all that grandstanding and shooting the messenger then ppl might pay more attention to you, Stevie. btw, I gave a big WUZZUP earlier in this thread.
Hey Psycho man, long time no see..Hope things have been good for you..
as for this subject of the thread, I'll wait until it comes from a MORE reputable source.
good to see you around again, I think...
Things have never been better, Stevie!!!!!! Huffington Post did not write that piece. It came from the very conservative Memphis (Tennessee) Commercial Appeal, a Scripps Howard newspaper, and they can usually be depended on for factual reporting if not occasionally right leaning reporting. This story is real and is available from a number of sources, your pick of course. This is not the first time right wingers have tried to diminish history for their own purposes. But, ppl like me and many others keep a watchful eye out for those that would rather forget about 240 years of actual history and re-write it for their own selfish reasons.
By Trymaine Lee
A little more than a year after the conservative-led state board of education in Texas approved massive changes to its school textbooks to put slavery in a more positive light, a group of Tea Party activists in Tennessee has renewed its push to whitewash school textbooks. The group is seeking to remove references to slavery and mentions of the country's founders being slave owners.
According to reports, Hal Rounds, the Fayette County attorney and spokesman for the group, said during a recent news conference that there has been "an awful lot of made-up criticism about, for instance, the founders intruding on the Indians or having slaves or being hypocrites in one way or another."
"The thing we need to focus on about the founders is that, given the social structure of their time, they were revolutionaries who brought liberty into a world where it hadn't existed, to everybody -- not all equally instantly -- and it was their progress that we need to look at," Rounds said, according to The Commercial Appeal.
During the news conference more than two dozen Tea Party activists handed out material that said, "Neglect and outright ill will have distorted the teaching of the history and character of the United States. We seek to compel the teaching of students in Tennessee the truth regarding the history of our nation and the nature of its government."
And that further teaching would also include that "the Constitution created a Republic, not a Democracy."
The group demanded, as they had in January of last year, that Tennessee lawmakers change state laws governing school curricula. The group called for textbook selection criteria to include: "No portrayal of minority experience in the history which actually occurred shall obscure the experience or contributions of the Founding Fathers, or the majority of citizens, including those who reached positions of leadership."
More: Tea Party Groups In Tennessee Demand Textbooks Overlook U.S. Founder's Slave-Owning History
Supporting Links:
Tennessee Tea Parties demand textbooks contain no mean things about Founding Fathers - Tea Parties - Salon.com
Tea parties issue demands to Tennessee legislators » The Commercial Appeal
Quite Frankly? Many of the Founders wanted to do away with it...Southern folks (whom later turned out later to for the Democrat Party, would sign onto the Constitution...ONLY if they could count thier slaves as part of apportionment).Hey Psycho man, long time no see..Hope things have been good for you..
as for this subject of the thread, I'll wait until it comes from a MORE reputable source.
good to see you around again, I think...
Things have never been better, Stevie!!!!!! Huffington Post did not write that piece. It came from the very conservative Memphis (Tennessee) Commercial Appeal, a Scripps Howard newspaper, and they can usually be depended on for factual reporting if not occasionally right leaning reporting. This story is real and is available from a number of sources, your pick of course. This is not the first time right wingers have tried to diminish history for their own purposes. But, ppl like me and many others keep a watchful eye out for those that would rather forget about 240 years of actual history and re-write it for their own selfish reasons.
listen up my friend, NOBODY is going to forget Slavery..but to say the TEA Party has anything to do with wanting to whitewash it somehow...I find bullshit. so I question the paper and who wrote the article..and if they had another link to this article, why didn't they post it from the paper? a lot of people don't go to the Hufferpost..
By Trymaine Lee
A little more than a year after the conservative-led state board of education in Texas approved massive changes to its school textbooks to put slavery in a more positive light, a group of Tea Party activists in Tennessee has renewed its push to whitewash school textbooks. The group is seeking to remove references to slavery and mentions of the country's founders being slave owners.
According to reports, Hal Rounds, the Fayette County attorney and spokesman for the group, said during a recent news conference that there has been "an awful lot of made-up criticism about, for instance, the founders intruding on the Indians or having slaves or being hypocrites in one way or another."
"The thing we need to focus on about the founders is that, given the social structure of their time, they were revolutionaries who brought liberty into a world where it hadn't existed, to everybody -- not all equally instantly -- and it was their progress that we need to look at," Rounds said, according to The Commercial Appeal.
During the news conference more than two dozen Tea Party activists handed out material that said, "Neglect and outright ill will have distorted the teaching of the history and character of the United States. We seek to compel the teaching of students in Tennessee the truth regarding the history of our nation and the nature of its government."
And that further teaching would also include that "the Constitution created a Republic, not a Democracy."
The group demanded, as they had in January of last year, that Tennessee lawmakers change state laws governing school curricula. The group called for textbook selection criteria to include: "No portrayal of minority experience in the history which actually occurred shall obscure the experience or contributions of the Founding Fathers, or the majority of citizens, including those who reached positions of leadership."
More: Tea Party Groups In Tennessee Demand Textbooks Overlook U.S. Founder's Slave-Owning History
Supporting Links:
Tennessee Tea Parties demand textbooks contain no mean things about Founding Fathers - Tea Parties - Salon.com
Tea parties issue demands to Tennessee legislators » The Commercial Appeal
I dont have such a fondness for our founding fathers. Truth be told. The wigs. They werent so great.
Tea Partiers would prefer students didn't learn George Washington owned slaves.
By Marie Diamond
Many of Americas first leaders, including George Washington and Benjamin Franklin, owned slaves. Thomas Jefferson fathered children with his slave Sally Hemings, and James Madison actually brought a slave with him to the White House when he became president.
The framers also painstakingly avoided addressing the issue of slavery when they wrote the Constitution, which included a compromise that each slave be counted as three-fifths of a person for the purposes of representation and taxation.
But recently, conservatives have preferred to gloss over those ugly truths and deprive students of a complete and honest portrait of the imperfect men who founded our country. Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), founder of the congressional Tea Party caucus, famously said that the founders worked tirelessly to end slavery. Several of the GOP candidates have even signed a pledge that claimed that blacks were better off under slavery than under President Obama.