Texas denies anchor babies birth certificates

[Wyatt earp]

That was legal ....

We are talking illegal

Its never been challenged.

That's because there's no need. Born here means you're an American, with a couple of very small exceptions, like mom has diplomatic immunity.

I am with you, I believe someone born here is an American citizen, but everything I find it's never been challenged ...it's not like they will strip citizen ship, but prevent future anchor baby's...

1. Use Google. 2. Learn English. That ain't it...

Then cite the court case?

You're looking at it backwards. Laws are constitutional by default. Granting a child born in the US citizenship is legal.

Yea, you are right thanks....

 

[Claudette]

If the baby was born here, it's American. Deal with it, the Supreme Court did, more than 100 years ago.

Cite the court case?

125 years ago they said Indians are American citizens under the 14th but not illegal newborns

United States v. Wong Kim Ark
In the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), the Supreme Court ruled that a person who

• is born in the United States
• of parents who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of a foreign power
• whose parents have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States
• whose parents are there carrying on business and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity of the foreign power to which they are subject

becomes, at the time of his birth, a citizen of the United States by virtue of the first clause of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
Birthright citizenship in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That was legal ....

We are talking illegal

Its never been challenged.

That's because there's no need. Born here means you're an American, with a couple of very small exceptions, like mom has diplomatic immunity.

I am with you, I believe someone born here is an American citizen, but everything I find it's never been challenged ...it's not like they will strip citizen ship, but prevent future anchor baby's...

You must have missed this part.

the link...
"But local officials, which issue birth certificates registered by the Texas Department of State Health Services Vital Statistics Unit, told the women they would no longer accept either the matricula consular, which is a photo ID issued by the Mexican Consulate to Mexican nationals living in the U.S., or a foreign passport without a current U.S. visa. Undocumented Central American women are also being turned away because they only have a passport without a U.S. visa. “They are locking out a huge chunk of the undocumented immigrant community,” says Harbury"

Guess you need a visa. If you're an illegal you won't have one.

If the baby was born here, it's American. Deal with it, the Supreme Court did, more than 100 years ago.

Cite the court case?

125 years ago they said Indians are American citizens under the 14th but not illegal newborns

United States v. Wong Kim Ark
In the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), the Supreme Court ruled that a person who

• is born in the United States
• of parents who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of a foreign power
• whose parents have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States
• whose parents are there carrying on business and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity of the foreign power to which they are subject

becomes, at the time of his birth, a citizen of the United States by virtue of the first clause of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
Birthright citizenship in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh and illegals have a permanent Domicile??

I think not since they are here illegally without the permission of the US Govt. and with out a Visa.

you know what's weird? the word domicile doesn't appear in the 14th amendment.
those babies born in the united states are citizens.

Check out some of the other threads on this subject. Its all there.

 

[Seawytch]

Hey GOP, how's that Hispanic outreach going?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Why hasn't birthright citizenship been challenged in court?

The way I figured no one gave a damn...

But its also kind of similar to Chicago's ban on guns, it was in effect for like 10 years before found illegal.

 

[Wildman]

I am with you, I believe someone born here is an American citizen,

i too believe someone born here is an American citizen....., only if they are a 10th generation citizen. ....

 

[Claudette]

Well I know a few Hispanics who got to the US legally.

They don't like the illegals any more than I do.

As for the Hispanic vote?? Guess we'll see.

 

[ogibillm]

Cite the court case?

125 years ago they said Indians are American citizens under the 14th but not illegal newborns

United States v. Wong Kim Ark
In the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), the Supreme Court ruled that a person who

• is born in the United States
• of parents who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of a foreign power
• whose parents have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States
• whose parents are there carrying on business and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity of the foreign power to which they are subject

becomes, at the time of his birth, a citizen of the United States by virtue of the first clause of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
Birthright citizenship in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That was legal ....

We are talking illegal

Its never been challenged.

That's because there's no need. Born here means you're an American, with a couple of very small exceptions, like mom has diplomatic immunity.

I am with you, I believe someone born here is an American citizen, but everything I find it's never been challenged ...it's not like they will strip citizen ship, but prevent future anchor baby's...

If the baby was born here, it's American. Deal with it, the Supreme Court did, more than 100 years ago.

Cite the court case?

125 years ago they said Indians are American citizens under the 14th but not illegal newborns

United States v. Wong Kim Ark
In the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), the Supreme Court ruled that a person who

• is born in the United States
• of parents who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of a foreign power
• whose parents have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States
• whose parents are there carrying on business and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity of the foreign power to which they are subject

becomes, at the time of his birth, a citizen of the United States by virtue of the first clause of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
Birthright citizenship in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh and illegals have a permanent Domicile??

I think not since they are here illegally without the permission of the US Govt. and with out a Visa.

you know what's weird? the word domicile doesn't appear in the 14th amendment.
those babies born in the united states are citizens.

Check out some of the other threads on this subject. Its all there.

Cite the court case?

125 years ago they said Indians are American citizens under the 14th but not illegal newborns

United States v. Wong Kim Ark
In the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), the Supreme Court ruled that a person who

• is born in the United States
• of parents who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of a foreign power
• whose parents have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States
• whose parents are there carrying on business and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity of the foreign power to which they are subject

becomes, at the time of his birth, a citizen of the United States by virtue of the first clause of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
Birthright citizenship in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That was legal ....

We are talking illegal

Its never been challenged.

That's because there's no need. Born here means you're an American, with a couple of very small exceptions, like mom has diplomatic immunity.

I am with you, I believe someone born here is an American citizen, but everything I find it's never been challenged ...it's not like they will strip citizen ship, but prevent future anchor baby's...

If the baby was born here, it's American. Deal with it, the Supreme Court did, more than 100 years ago.

Cite the court case?

125 years ago they said Indians are American citizens under the 14th but not illegal newborns

United States v. Wong Kim Ark
In the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), the Supreme Court ruled that a person who

• is born in the United States
• of parents who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of a foreign power
• whose parents have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States
• whose parents are there carrying on business and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity of the foreign power to which they are subject

becomes, at the time of his birth, a citizen of the United States by virtue of the first clause of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
Birthright citizenship in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh and illegals have a permanent Domicile??

I think not since they are here illegally without the permission of the US Govt. and with out a Visa.

you know what's weird? the word domicile doesn't appear in the 14th amendment.
those babies born in the united states are citizens.

Check out some of the other threads on this subject. Its all there.

are you claiming that the united states does not have jurisdiction over those here illegally?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Hey GOP, how's that Hispanic outreach going?

Based on what the GOP is doing to Hispanics,

I think the term reacharound might be more appropriate.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Hey GOP, how's that Hispanic outreach going?

I'm sure the wetbacks are happy as clams with the GOP Hitler-youth, as usual.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Hey GOP, how's that Hispanic outreach going?

Based on what the GOP is doing to Hispanics,

I think the term reacharound might be more appropriate.

Are they even that polite, or generous? Doubtful.

 

[Claudette]

United States v. Wong Kim Ark
In the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), the Supreme Court ruled that a person who

• is born in the United States
• of parents who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of a foreign power
• whose parents have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States
• whose parents are there carrying on business and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity of the foreign power to which they are subject

becomes, at the time of his birth, a citizen of the United States by virtue of the first clause of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
Birthright citizenship in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That was legal ....

We are talking illegal

Its never been challenged.

That's because there's no need. Born here means you're an American, with a couple of very small exceptions, like mom has diplomatic immunity.

I am with you, I believe someone born here is an American citizen, but everything I find it's never been challenged ...it's not like they will strip citizen ship, but prevent future anchor baby's...

Cite the court case?

125 years ago they said Indians are American citizens under the 14th but not illegal newborns

United States v. Wong Kim Ark
In the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), the Supreme Court ruled that a person who

• is born in the United States
• of parents who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of a foreign power
• whose parents have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States
• whose parents are there carrying on business and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity of the foreign power to which they are subject

becomes, at the time of his birth, a citizen of the United States by virtue of the first clause of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
Birthright citizenship in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh and illegals have a permanent Domicile??

I think not since they are here illegally without the permission of the US Govt. and with out a Visa.

you know what's weird? the word domicile doesn't appear in the 14th amendment.
those babies born in the united states are citizens.

Check out some of the other threads on this subject. Its all there.

United States v. Wong Kim Ark
In the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), the Supreme Court ruled that a person who

• is born in the United States
• of parents who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of a foreign power
• whose parents have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States
• whose parents are there carrying on business and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity of the foreign power to which they are subject

becomes, at the time of his birth, a citizen of the United States by virtue of the first clause of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
Birthright citizenship in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That was legal ....

We are talking illegal

Its never been challenged.

That's because there's no need. Born here means you're an American, with a couple of very small exceptions, like mom has diplomatic immunity.

I am with you, I believe someone born here is an American citizen, but everything I find it's never been challenged ...it's not like they will strip citizen ship, but prevent future anchor baby's...

Cite the court case?

125 years ago they said Indians are American citizens under the 14th but not illegal newborns

United States v. Wong Kim Ark
In the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), the Supreme Court ruled that a person who

• is born in the United States
• of parents who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of a foreign power
• whose parents have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States
• whose parents are there carrying on business and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity of the foreign power to which they are subject

becomes, at the time of his birth, a citizen of the United States by virtue of the first clause of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
Birthright citizenship in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh and illegals have a permanent Domicile??

I think not since they are here illegally without the permission of the US Govt. and with out a Visa.

you know what's weird? the word domicile doesn't appear in the 14th amendment.
those babies born in the united states are citizens.

Check out some of the other threads on this subject. Its all there.

are you claiming that the united states does not have jurisdiction over those here illegally?

I'm not telling you. What you read is. They also have no domicile because they are here illegally.

 

[ogibillm]

That was legal ....

We are talking illegal

Its never been challenged.

That's because there's no need. Born here means you're an American, with a couple of very small exceptions, like mom has diplomatic immunity.

I am with you, I believe someone born here is an American citizen, but everything I find it's never been challenged ...it's not like they will strip citizen ship, but prevent future anchor baby's...

United States v. Wong Kim Ark
In the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), the Supreme Court ruled that a person who

• is born in the United States
• of parents who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of a foreign power
• whose parents have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States
• whose parents are there carrying on business and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity of the foreign power to which they are subject

becomes, at the time of his birth, a citizen of the United States by virtue of the first clause of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
Birthright citizenship in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh and illegals have a permanent Domicile??

I think not since they are here illegally without the permission of the US Govt. and with out a Visa.

you know what's weird? the word domicile doesn't appear in the 14th amendment.
those babies born in the united states are citizens.

Check out some of the other threads on this subject. Its all there.

That was legal ....

We are talking illegal

Its never been challenged.

That's because there's no need. Born here means you're an American, with a couple of very small exceptions, like mom has diplomatic immunity.

I am with you, I believe someone born here is an American citizen, but everything I find it's never been challenged ...it's not like they will strip citizen ship, but prevent future anchor baby's...

United States v. Wong Kim Ark
In the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), the Supreme Court ruled that a person who

• is born in the United States
• of parents who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of a foreign power
• whose parents have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States
• whose parents are there carrying on business and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity of the foreign power to which they are subject

becomes, at the time of his birth, a citizen of the United States by virtue of the first clause of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
Birthright citizenship in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh and illegals have a permanent Domicile??

I think not since they are here illegally without the permission of the US Govt. and with out a Visa.

you know what's weird? the word domicile doesn't appear in the 14th amendment.
those babies born in the united states are citizens.

Check out some of the other threads on this subject. Its all there.

are you claiming that the united states does not have jurisdiction over those here illegally?

I'm not telling you. What you read is. They also have no domicile because they are here illegally.

you keep going back to domicile like that matters. also, most illegal aliens do have a home, not that it matters.
so do you believe that in the united states illegals can't be arrested? are not subject to our laws? can't be sued?

 

[Wyatt earp]

That was legal ....

We are talking illegal

Its never been challenged.

That's because there's no need. Born here means you're an American, with a couple of very small exceptions, like mom has diplomatic immunity.

I am with you, I believe someone born here is an American citizen, but everything I find it's never been challenged ...it's not like they will strip citizen ship, but prevent future anchor baby's...

1. Use Google. 2. Learn English. That ain't it...

Then cite the court case?

Anchor baby - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That Time the Supreme Court Said the Constitution Definitely Protects Birthright Citizenship

Your concerns were dealt with in the case I cited. Read it and learn English.

Bull shit the parents came here legally

Can you comprehend what that means?

They didn't sneak in here and had a child

They came here legally ... Reading comprehension is clearly not your strong suite.

Although an activist court in 1898 seemed to apply the birthright citizenship principle found in English Common Law in United States v Wong Kim Ark, which in itself was a reversal of previous precedent and against the plain interpretation of the 14th Amendment, the case only applied to a child of parents who were legal permanent residents. Liberals wrongly apply this ruling to children of illegal aliens, even though English Common Law explicitly excluded children born to those who illegally occupied territory, as noted by Professor Lino Graglia at a recent House Judiciary Committee hearing. - See more at: Conservative Review - Fixing the Birthright Citizenship Loophole: Myth vs Fact

 

[Claudette]

That's because there's no need. Born here means you're an American, with a couple of very small exceptions, like mom has diplomatic immunity.

I am with you, I believe someone born here is an American citizen, but everything I find it's never been challenged ...it's not like they will strip citizen ship, but prevent future anchor baby's...

Oh and illegals have a permanent Domicile??

I think not since they are here illegally without the permission of the US Govt. and with out a Visa.

you know what's weird? the word domicile doesn't appear in the 14th amendment.
those babies born in the united states are citizens.

Check out some of the other threads on this subject. Its all there.

That's because there's no need. Born here means you're an American, with a couple of very small exceptions, like mom has diplomatic immunity.

I am with you, I believe someone born here is an American citizen, but everything I find it's never been challenged ...it's not like they will strip citizen ship, but prevent future anchor baby's...

Oh and illegals have a permanent Domicile??

I think not since they are here illegally without the permission of the US Govt. and with out a Visa.

you know what's weird? the word domicile doesn't appear in the 14th amendment.
those babies born in the united states are citizens.

Check out some of the other threads on this subject. Its all there.

are you claiming that the united states does not have jurisdiction over those here illegally?

I'm not telling you. What you read is. They also have no domicile because they are here illegally.

you keep going back to domicile like that matters. also, most illegal aliens do have a home, not that it matters.
so do you believe that in the united states illegals can't be arrested? are not subject to our laws? can't be sued?

They are talking about a Legal domicile which they don't have because they are here illegally without the permission of the US Govt.

As for suing them?? Who knows. I sure don't. Ever tried to sue someone who isn't supposed to be here??

We all know they can be arrested and are subject to our laws.

Doesn't alter the fact that they are here illegally.

 

[jon_berzerk]

English Common Law

English common law was rejected by the founders

we broke away from that when we declared independence

and several years later by forming our own Constitution to live by

 

[NYcarbineer]

Hey GOP, how's that Hispanic outreach going?

Based on what the GOP is doing to Hispanics,

I think the term reacharound might be more appropriate.

Are they even that polite, or generous? Doubtful.

RINO's.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

That's because there's no need. Born here means you're an American, with a couple of very small exceptions, like mom has diplomatic immunity.

I am with you, I believe someone born here is an American citizen, but everything I find it's never been challenged ...it's not like they will strip citizen ship, but prevent future anchor baby's...

1. Use Google. 2. Learn English. That ain't it...

Then cite the court case?

Anchor baby - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That Time the Supreme Court Said the Constitution Definitely Protects Birthright Citizenship

Your concerns were dealt with in the case I cited. Read it and learn English.

Bull shit the parents came here legally

Can you comprehend what that means?

They didn't sneak in here and had a child

They came here legally ... Reading comprehension is clearly not your strong suite.

Although an activist court in 1898 seemed to apply the birthright citizenship principle found in English Common Law in United States v Wong Kim Ark, which in itself was a reversal of previous precedent and against the plain interpretation of the 14th Amendment, the case only applied to a child of parents who were legal permanent residents. Liberals wrongly apply this ruling to children of illegal aliens, even though English Common Law explicitly excluded children born to those who illegally occupied territory, as noted by Professor Lino Graglia at a recent House Judiciary Committee hearing. - See more at: Conservative Review - Fixing the Birthright Citizenship Loophole: Myth vs Fact

Your concerns were dealt with in the court case, which you are going to have to read for yourself. They were not concerned with how the parents got here, only that they were here when the baby was born. Read the case, and learn English.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

English Common Law

English common law was rejected by the founders

we broke away from that when we declared independence

and several years later by forming our own Constitution to live by

Not even close. Our laws were, and are, filled with English Common Law.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

That's because there's no need. Born here means you're an American, with a couple of very small exceptions, like mom has diplomatic immunity.

I am with you, I believe someone born here is an American citizen, but everything I find it's never been challenged ...it's not like they will strip citizen ship, but prevent future anchor baby's...

Oh and illegals have a permanent Domicile??

I think not since they are here illegally without the permission of the US Govt. and with out a Visa.

you know what's weird? the word domicile doesn't appear in the 14th amendment.
those babies born in the united states are citizens.

Check out some of the other threads on this subject. Its all there.

That's because there's no need. Born here means you're an American, with a couple of very small exceptions, like mom has diplomatic immunity.

I am with you, I believe someone born here is an American citizen, but everything I find it's never been challenged ...it's not like they will strip citizen ship, but prevent future anchor baby's...

Oh and illegals have a permanent Domicile??

I think not since they are here illegally without the permission of the US Govt. and with out a Visa.

you know what's weird? the word domicile doesn't appear in the 14th amendment.
those babies born in the united states are citizens.

Check out some of the other threads on this subject. Its all there.

are you claiming that the united states does not have jurisdiction over those here illegally?

I'm not telling you. What you read is. They also have no domicile because they are here illegally.

you keep going back to domicile like that matters. also, most illegal aliens do have a home, not that it matters.
so do you believe that in the united states illegals can't be arrested? are not subject to our laws? can't be sued?

Their arguments are nonsense, it just pisses the off that a baby born here is almost always automatically made an American Citizen, who then becomes another little wetback they can't just deport.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Wongs parents didn't break any laws by coming here legally and having a child dumb shit paint my house

That case nothing to do with criminals who enter here illegally and give birth to a child on US soil.