Thank you, President Trump

[OldLady]

LOL reality.....

Trump Talk On Gun Control Pleases Dems – None Of It Will Ever Happen and Trump Knows It

Trump knows he could say, “I’m banning the shotgun and vanilla banana splits,” and it really means little. Trump can’t do either.

Newser– In a stunning move during a televised meeting with a bipartisan group of lawmakers Wednesday, President Trump apparently embraced gun control, with little concern for how the NRA might feel about it. Trump urged lawmakers to revive a bipartisan bill crafted in the wake of the Sandy Hook school shooting by Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin III and Republican Sen. Pat Toomey; it failed to move forward thanks to a largely Republican filibuster at the time.

Trump Talk On Gun Control Pleases Dems – None Of It Will Ever Happen and Trump Knows It

Well that is because the NRA has way too much power in America... The NRA is not the 2nd amendment Sassy.
No group, especially a Non-Profit should have so much power on Americans..why is that ok with you?

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There ya go again...NRA NRA NRA!!!!!!!!!! You're redundant

You're not going to get a gun ban....bank it

I think that people are realizing just how much power this one group has ... At this point it is not so much about a ban, it is about taking our power back which could almost start a civil war ..People have looked the other way for too long.

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Unlike the voices we hear on social media, the vast majority of the country would not fight over this. I live in gun country. They may not like the word "ban," but AR's aren't their thing. Grab your shotgun to protect your home. Use a hunting rifle in deer season. That's how it is. No one opposes background checks that I've run into.

I've not see you blatantly lie before. That's sad too.

I don't know where you live, but I'd like to know what makes you think I'm lying?

 

[bodecea]

NRA and gun manufacturers.....making a killing (pun intended) off mass shootings.

 

[OldLady]

Well that is because the NRA has way too much power in America... The NRA is not the 2nd amendment Sassy.
No group, especially a Non-Profit should have so much power on Americans..why is that ok with you?

.

There ya go again...NRA NRA NRA!!!!!!!!!! You're redundant

You're not going to get a gun ban....bank it

I think that people are realizing just how much power this one group has ... At this point it is not so much about a ban, it is about taking our power back which could almost start a civil war ..People have looked the other way for too long.

.

You have nightmares about the NRA don't you? The NRA didn't have squat to do with the FL shooting, nada, zilch, NOTHING. Direct your energy at the real problem....what you idiots on the left have done to children with your pampering, everyone is inclusive, etc BS.

Yeah I saw the fuck-head president of the NRA blame everyone else.. these morons pay off the polictions to pass bills , stripping away laws that keep the mentally ill from buying assault rifles . I had a neighbor for 18 years who was not supposed to have a gun..he murdered his son and killed himself..( I found them ) he was able to walk right in and get a gun..they made a movie about it..
Daddy Dearest behind mansion walls.. I saw personally what a gun can do to a kid I saw grow up.)

like this kid who just had to say "no I don't have any mental illness ..WTF no back round check or anything .

.

Who dropped the ball with this kid? Answer it honestly or fug off with your BS. If procedures had been followed he'd never been allowed to purchase a gun.

BUT IT'S THE NRA's FAULT!!!!!!!!

Goddamn loons

When you're done wiping the spittle off your chin, tell me what procedures would have put the kid on the NICS list. As things stand today.

 

[Eaglewings]

Well that is because the NRA has way too much power in America... The NRA is not the 2nd amendment Sassy.
No group, especially a Non-Profit should have so much power on Americans..why is that ok with you?

.

There ya go again...NRA NRA NRA!!!!!!!!!! You're redundant

You're not going to get a gun ban....bank it

I think that people are realizing just how much power this one group has ... At this point it is not so much about a ban, it is about taking our power back which could almost start a civil war ..People have looked the other way for too long.

.

You have nightmares about the NRA don't you? The NRA didn't have squat to do with the FL shooting, nada, zilch, NOTHING. Direct your energy at the real problem....what you idiots on the left have done to children with your pampering, everyone is inclusive, etc BS.

Yeah I saw the fuck-head president of the NRA blame everyone else.. these morons pay off the polictions to pass bills , stripping away laws that keep the mentally ill from buying assault rifles . I had a neighbor for 18 years who was not supposed to have a gun..he murdered his son and killed himself..( I found them ) he was able to walk right in and get a gun..they made a movie about it..
Daddy Dearest behind mansion walls.. I saw personally what a gun can do to a kid I saw grow up.)

like this kid who just had to say "no I don't have any mental illness ..WTF no back round check or anything .

.

Who dropped the ball with this kid? Answer it honestly or fug off with your BS. If procedures had been followed he'd never been allowed to purchase a gun.

BUT IT'S THE NRA's FAULT!!!!!!!!

Goddamn loons

I am not blaming the NRA 100%... they are part of the problem

Yes this kid fell through the cracks on so many levels..

From the FBI to the social worker who cleared him ( this kid had schizophrenia) The cops...all of these people should have had this kid accessed by a professional.

This kid was able to walk in and get an assault rifle

 

[SassyIrishLass]

There ya go again...NRA NRA NRA!!!!!!!!!! You're redundant

You're not going to get a gun ban....bank it

I think that people are realizing just how much power this one group has ... At this point it is not so much about a ban, it is about taking our power back which could almost start a civil war ..People have looked the other way for too long.

.

You have nightmares about the NRA don't you? The NRA didn't have squat to do with the FL shooting, nada, zilch, NOTHING. Direct your energy at the real problem....what you idiots on the left have done to children with your pampering, everyone is inclusive, etc BS.

Yeah I saw the fuck-head president of the NRA blame everyone else.. these morons pay off the polictions to pass bills , stripping away laws that keep the mentally ill from buying assault rifles . I had a neighbor for 18 years who was not supposed to have a gun..he murdered his son and killed himself..( I found them ) he was able to walk right in and get a gun..they made a movie about it..
Daddy Dearest behind mansion walls.. I saw personally what a gun can do to a kid I saw grow up.)

like this kid who just had to say "no I don't have any mental illness ..WTF no back round check or anything .

.

Who dropped the ball with this kid? Answer it honestly or fug off with your BS. If procedures had been followed he'd never been allowed to purchase a gun.

BUT IT'S THE NRA's FAULT!!!!!!!!

Goddamn loons

I am not blaming the NRA 100%... they are part of the problem

Yes this kid fell through the cracks on so many levels..

From the FBI to the social worker who cleared him ( this kid had schizophrenia) The cops...all of these people should have had this kid accessed by a professional.

This kid was able to walk in and get an assault rifle

Not one iota the NRA's fault in this case. Give up the ghost already

 

[TNHarley]

How about they also start taking away your words when you start sounding like a loon on here? Would you like that?

Quit trolling me, TN. It's so unattractive.

Its a legitimate question. The same logic follows other rights, doesnt it? Or are we just going to be dishonest and ignore reality?

Where does the first amendment say anything about words being well regulated?

Does your dumbass have any idea what "well regulated" meant in the 18th century?

Does yours?

Fucking idiot

It was a phrase that meant that a persons property should be working properly. Look it up.
In the case of 2nd, it would mean that a person is ready with plenty of guns and ammo

 

[Marion Morrison]

There ya go again...NRA NRA NRA!!!!!!!!!! You're redundant

You're not going to get a gun ban....bank it

I think that people are realizing just how much power this one group has ... At this point it is not so much about a ban, it is about taking our power back which could almost start a civil war ..People have looked the other way for too long.

.

You have nightmares about the NRA don't you? The NRA didn't have squat to do with the FL shooting, nada, zilch, NOTHING. Direct your energy at the real problem....what you idiots on the left have done to children with your pampering, everyone is inclusive, etc BS.

Yeah I saw the fuck-head president of the NRA blame everyone else.. these morons pay off the polictions to pass bills , stripping away laws that keep the mentally ill from buying assault rifles . I had a neighbor for 18 years who was not supposed to have a gun..he murdered his son and killed himself..( I found them ) he was able to walk right in and get a gun..they made a movie about it..
Daddy Dearest behind mansion walls.. I saw personally what a gun can do to a kid I saw grow up.)

like this kid who just had to say "no I don't have any mental illness ..WTF no back round check or anything .

.

Who dropped the ball with this kid? Answer it honestly or fug off with your BS. If procedures had been followed he'd never been allowed to purchase a gun.

BUT IT'S THE NRA's FAULT!!!!!!!!

Goddamn loons

When you're done wiping the spittle off your chin, tell me what procedures would have put the kid on the NICS list. As things stand today.

Being institutionalized in Chattahoochee like he should have been.

 

[hunarcy]

Well that is because the NRA has way too much power in America... The NRA is not the 2nd amendment Sassy.
No group, especially a Non-Profit should have so much power on Americans..why is that ok with you?

.

There ya go again...NRA NRA NRA!!!!!!!!!! You're redundant

You're not going to get a gun ban....bank it

I think that people are realizing just how much power this one group has ... At this point it is not so much about a ban, it is about taking our power back which could almost start a civil war ..People have looked the other way for too long.

.

Unlike the voices we hear on social media, the vast majority of the country would not fight over this. I live in gun country. They may not like the word "ban," but AR's aren't their thing. Grab your shotgun to protect your home. Use a hunting rifle in deer season. That's how it is. No one opposes background checks that I've run into.

I've not see you blatantly lie before. That's sad too.

I don't know where you live, but I'd like to know what makes you think I'm lying?

There are 3,261,725 AR style weapons in the USA. There's no area where "AR's aren't their thing", unless you are in Connecticut.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

There ya go again...NRA NRA NRA!!!!!!!!!! You're redundant

You're not going to get a gun ban....bank it

I think that people are realizing just how much power this one group has ... At this point it is not so much about a ban, it is about taking our power back which could almost start a civil war ..People have looked the other way for too long.

.

You have nightmares about the NRA don't you? The NRA didn't have squat to do with the FL shooting, nada, zilch, NOTHING. Direct your energy at the real problem....what you idiots on the left have done to children with your pampering, everyone is inclusive, etc BS.

Yeah I saw the fuck-head president of the NRA blame everyone else.. these morons pay off the polictions to pass bills , stripping away laws that keep the mentally ill from buying assault rifles . I had a neighbor for 18 years who was not supposed to have a gun..he murdered his son and killed himself..( I found them ) he was able to walk right in and get a gun..they made a movie about it..
Daddy Dearest behind mansion walls.. I saw personally what a gun can do to a kid I saw grow up.)

like this kid who just had to say "no I don't have any mental illness ..WTF no back round check or anything .

.

Who dropped the ball with this kid? Answer it honestly or fug off with your BS. If procedures had been followed he'd never been allowed to purchase a gun.

BUT IT'S THE NRA's FAULT!!!!!!!!

Goddamn loons

When you're done wiping the spittle off your chin, tell me what procedures would have put the kid on the NICS list. As things stand today.

OMG if you don't know that you're more fucking stupid than I ever dreamed possible

 

[Meathead]

Rarely agree with the old lady, but I'm with her on this. Trump is first and foremost a pragmatist. Reasonable gun control is practical.

 

[The Derp]

The President's meeting with legislators yesterday about gun control was a stunner:
Ban bumpstocks, Fix NICS, support ERPO's, raise age to buy assault weapons to 21. I was particularly impressed that he pushed the Republicans to cut the CCW reciprocity bill from the mix. It would never pass, is right.

Not much discussion on ol' USMB about this that I could see. The Conservatives are embarrassed? and the Democrats can't bring themselves to say something positive about Trump? I dunno, but I think it is really noteworthy, if only because it's the first time I've been able to warmly and 100% applaud our President.

Thank you, Mr. President. Stick to your guns, as they say.

Trump has this nasty habit of saying one thing and then doing the exact opposite.

 

[OldLady]

The President's meeting with legislators yesterday about gun control was a stunner:
Ban bumpstocks, Fix NICS, support ERPO's, raise age to buy assault weapons to 21. I was particularly impressed that he pushed the Republicans to cut the CCW reciprocity bill from the mix. It would never pass, is right.

Not much discussion on ol' USMB about this that I could see. The Conservatives are embarrassed? and the Democrats can't bring themselves to say something positive about Trump? I dunno, but I think it is really noteworthy, if only because it's the first time I've been able to warmly and 100% applaud our President.

Thank you, Mr. President. Stick to your guns, as they say.

Not embarassed. Just sad. To suggest that the CCW reciprocity bill be stopped is wrong. It violates the Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution. If states are free to reject licenses from other states, how long will it be before a marriage license from Hawaii be rejected in Texas? Or, a driver's license from New York not be honored in Colorado?

The CCW reciprocity bill is what is wrong. If a state has decided it doesn't want any Tom Dick or Harry walking around with a concealed weapon, it is up to the people to respect that, or risk being arrested. When the federal government wants gun legislation, the standard reply is "leave it to the states." When it is up to the states, now the reply is, "we won't honor your decision?"

And so you'll also support Texas saying gay marriage won't be honored in their state? Or, that a mixed race couple's marriage is invalid in Alabama?

Or, are you just going to be a hypocrite?

If that makes me a hypocrite, so be it.

 

[OldLady]

The President's meeting with legislators yesterday about gun control was a stunner:
Ban bumpstocks, Fix NICS, support ERPO's, raise age to buy assault weapons to 21. I was particularly impressed that he pushed the Republicans to cut the CCW reciprocity bill from the mix. It would never pass, is right.

Not much discussion on ol' USMB about this that I could see. The Conservatives are embarrassed? and the Democrats can't bring themselves to say something positive about Trump? I dunno, but I think it is really noteworthy, if only because it's the first time I've been able to warmly and 100% applaud our President.

Thank you, Mr. President. Stick to your guns, as they say.

Trump has this nasty habit of saying one thing and then doing the exact opposite.

With the immigration thing, the Republicans didn't get to him first before that immigration discussion where the Pres promised to cover their asses on DACA. I think he was genuinely willing to do exactly what he said, but the hard liners finally caught up with him in the hall and reminded him of what his base wants and what the Tea Party wants.
In this case, Trump had two weeks to listen to the hard liners and they HAVE to have reminded him by now of what his base thinks, and yet he STILL is actually advocating for reasonable solutions. He doesn't care what the NRA thinks -- he doesn't need their money (maybe the only good reason to elect a billionaire).

The amazing thing is, I'm not hearing the base sniping at him here at all. They're all just sniping at me. It's amazing. The man IS teflon!

 

[OldLady]

There ya go again...NRA NRA NRA!!!!!!!!!! You're redundant

You're not going to get a gun ban....bank it

I think that people are realizing just how much power this one group has ... At this point it is not so much about a ban, it is about taking our power back which could almost start a civil war ..People have looked the other way for too long.

.

Unlike the voices we hear on social media, the vast majority of the country would not fight over this. I live in gun country. They may not like the word "ban," but AR's aren't their thing. Grab your shotgun to protect your home. Use a hunting rifle in deer season. That's how it is. No one opposes background checks that I've run into.

I've not see you blatantly lie before. That's sad too.

I don't know where you live, but I'd like to know what makes you think I'm lying?

There are 3,261,725 AR style weapons in the USA. There's no area where "AR's aren't their thing", unless you are in Connecticut.

Not as popular here as you might believe. It's not a big deal, though. Believe what you like.

 

[OldLady]

I think that people are realizing just how much power this one group has ... At this point it is not so much about a ban, it is about taking our power back which could almost start a civil war ..People have looked the other way for too long.

.

You have nightmares about the NRA don't you? The NRA didn't have squat to do with the FL shooting, nada, zilch, NOTHING. Direct your energy at the real problem....what you idiots on the left have done to children with your pampering, everyone is inclusive, etc BS.

Yeah I saw the fuck-head president of the NRA blame everyone else.. these morons pay off the polictions to pass bills , stripping away laws that keep the mentally ill from buying assault rifles . I had a neighbor for 18 years who was not supposed to have a gun..he murdered his son and killed himself..( I found them ) he was able to walk right in and get a gun..they made a movie about it..
Daddy Dearest behind mansion walls.. I saw personally what a gun can do to a kid I saw grow up.)

like this kid who just had to say "no I don't have any mental illness ..WTF no back round check or anything .

.

Who dropped the ball with this kid? Answer it honestly or fug off with your BS. If procedures had been followed he'd never been allowed to purchase a gun.

BUT IT'S THE NRA's FAULT!!!!!!!!

Goddamn loons

When you're done wiping the spittle off your chin, tell me what procedures would have put the kid on the NICS list. As things stand today.

OMG if you don't know that you're more fucking stupid than I ever dreamed possible

I repeat my question. If you don't tell me, I'll assume you don't know the answer.

 

[The Derp]

In this case, Trump had two weeks to listen to the hard liners and they HAVE to have reminded him by now of what his base thinks, and yet he STILL is actually advocating for reasonable solutions. He doesn't care what the NRA thinks -- he doesn't need their money (maybe the only good reason to elect a billionaire).

Look, Trump's long history of lying and bullshitting should clue you into the fact that he's not intending to do anything about guns, and is paying lip service to this because his approval ratings are in the toilet. A man so consumed with himself says, not does, anything he can to make people like him. But ultimately, nothing will come of this because Trump doesn't even have a clue what he wants. Everything is off the top of his head, like improv. He doesn't know how to move legilsation forward, and doesn't want to.

And you can sure as shit bet he needs NRA money. They contributed $30M to him in 2016. How much of his own money did he spend campaigning? $0.

That's right...$0.

Trump didn't spend a single cent of his own money to campaign. That's why he was asking for donations all the time. That's why he was selling made-in-China MAGA hats. That's why he attended fundraisers with wealthy Republican donors. That's why he kissed Sheldon Adelson's ring.

Trump's entire business model is to spend other people's money. He just licenses his name. That's all he does.

 

[impuretrash]

The President's meeting with legislators yesterday about gun control was a stunner:
Ban bumpstocks, Fix NICS, support ERPO's, raise age to buy assault weapons to 21. I was particularly impressed that he pushed the Republicans to cut the CCW reciprocity bill from the mix. It would never pass, is right.

Not much discussion on ol' USMB about this that I could see. The Conservatives are embarrassed? and the Democrats can't bring themselves to say something positive about Trump? I dunno, but I think it is really noteworthy, if only because it's the first time I've been able to warmly and 100% applaud our President.

Thank you, Mr. President. Stick to your guns, as they say.

Kudos to you for not being blindly anti-Trump like so many people.

A lot of lefties on this site were taking some of Trump's comments out of context so I watched the entire meeting on youtube to see for myself what he really meant. For someone who is so often criticized by his detractors of lacking leadership skills, seems to me that he commanded the room. The most controversial moment came when he said something like "Take the guns first", a comment that many lefties have run with to try and scare people into thinking he was in favor of nationwide gun confiscation. In context though, he was basically saying he'd like authorities to temporarily seize guns from someone while they are being evaluated for mental illness. Which is kind of a silly thing to say but I understand where he's coming from.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

You have nightmares about the NRA don't you? The NRA didn't have squat to do with the FL shooting, nada, zilch, NOTHING. Direct your energy at the real problem....what you idiots on the left have done to children with your pampering, everyone is inclusive, etc BS.

Yeah I saw the fuck-head president of the NRA blame everyone else.. these morons pay off the polictions to pass bills , stripping away laws that keep the mentally ill from buying assault rifles . I had a neighbor for 18 years who was not supposed to have a gun..he murdered his son and killed himself..( I found them ) he was able to walk right in and get a gun..they made a movie about it..
Daddy Dearest behind mansion walls.. I saw personally what a gun can do to a kid I saw grow up.)

like this kid who just had to say "no I don't have any mental illness ..WTF no back round check or anything .

.

Who dropped the ball with this kid? Answer it honestly or fug off with your BS. If procedures had been followed he'd never been allowed to purchase a gun.

BUT IT'S THE NRA's FAULT!!!!!!!!

Goddamn loons

When you're done wiping the spittle off your chin, tell me what procedures would have put the kid on the NICS list. As things stand today.

OMG if you don't know that you're more fucking stupid than I ever dreamed possible

I repeat my question. If you don't tell me, I'll assume you don't know the answer.

Well golly gee, maybe the police being called upwards of 39 times, perhaps posting he wanted to be a professional school shooter, students warned he was a risk, he wasn't allowed to be on campus with a backpack...it was reported teachers sought a mental health transfer for Cruz?

Nah no warning signs there was there? Just blame the NRA and call it a day

 

[The Derp]

while they are being evaluated for mental illness.

So what's prompting the mental illness evaluation? Simply buying a gun? So your proposal is that anyone who is buying a gun must undergo a mental health evaluation?

Most mentally ill people don't even know or think they're mentally ill, so they never seek treatment. So how does this proposal of Trump's actually work, in your mind?

 

[The Derp]

Well golly gee, maybe the police being called upwards of 39 times, perhaps posting he wanted to be a professional school shooter, students warned he was a risk, he wasn't allowed to be on campus with a backpack...it was reported teachers sought a mental health transfer for Cruz?Nah no warning signs there was there? Just blame the NRA and call it a day

And what of the Vegas shooter, with no documented history of making threats like Cruz? Because that guy killed more people and had no history that would indicate anything prompting this kind of scrutiny.