The Collapsing American Middle Class

[Fenton Lum]

no. outsourcing waters down wages....and the second largest employer in this country forces down wages by refusing to buy goods over a certain dollar amount, regardless of wages.... and you wingers drive down wages by destroying collective bargaining.

if you're competing with someone who doesn't speak English for a menial job, then you should probably up your game.

Actually for every job outsourced three are created domestically.
You're so fucking uninformed. It's like explaining quantum physics to a hamster.

"Actually for every job outsourced three are created domestically."

Source please.

How Outsourcing Creates Jobs for Americans

First off, the data is from an organization with a vested interest in pushing globalism, the same type of lobbyist organizations that get legislation through that you've been whining about.

Secondly, this:
"Conclusion. Outsourcing is not a new concept. Blue-collar manufacturing jobs have been outsourced for 100 years. Textile jobs in South Carolina today were originally outsourced from Massachusetts. While the transition was painful for Massachusetts textile workers in the short run, they soon found better jobs in new industries. The same will be true as South Carolina textile jobs are outsourced to China."

No, not the same at all. The MA to SC kept it in house as far as america was concerned and a MA worker had much more of an option to get to SC, or may have even gotten transferred. What we're talking about with global outsourcing is corporations taking tax breaks and incentives and capital out of american society where they can more viciously exploit a less protected workforce and more savagely shit up the environment. Your economy has been rerigged and the workforce here in the US is no longer something global corporatists require. Human beings are disposable, consumable, in the never ending search for linear profit margin growth to infinity.

Yup. Just mere dismissal and no counter arguments.
bye bye, dunce.

Ha ha ha ha ha, oooooooooooooh the irony. Take it easy champ.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Just to head this deflection off; this is due to the leadership of BOTH parties being bought by the corporate crony network.

This is not a slam on Dems alone, but all the bastards that undermine our lives and economic future in DC by carrying corporate water for them.

The Bruised and Battered Middle Class

Likewise, California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas have the 10 areas with the highest share of lower-income earners. With the exception of New Mexico, all those states have favored either Republicans or Democrats in four straight presidential elections.

The metro regions with the highest percentage of middle-income households, though, are disproportionately located in swing states or states that the Trump campaign believes are ripe for the New York billionaire's economic message. Pennsylvania and Ohio each have one, and Wisconsin alone has four.

"That tells me the trends described in this report are going to benefit the more populist candidates," said Alan Tonelson, an economic policy analyst who is critical of U.S. trade policy. "That seems to me to translate into good news for Trump … [Clinton] doesn't have very deep roots as a trade policy critic."

This meme is utter bullshit. The middle class is better off than they were 20 years ago. Yes, the last 8 years have sucked due to the low growth that Dem policies produce. But otherwise this is just dog whistle.

This meme is utter bullshit. The middle class is better off than they were 20 years ago. Yes, the last 8 years have sucked due to the low growth that Dem policies produce. But otherwise this is just dog whistle.

Young people today don't have anywhere near the buying power their Fathers and Grand Fathers had.

Thank government policies that caused huge inflation.

Thank government policies that caused huge inflation.

Greed and wage disparity.

Do you even know what "greed" is? I'll bet not. They didnt teach at when you got your masters at Columbia in business. LOL!! Poseur.

Yup. Just mere dismissal and no counter arguments.
bye bye, dunce.

 

[The Rabbi]

ANyone can lobby for anything, dunce.

I wish you understood how your power structure works. We might be able to converse.

Just because someone lobbies for something doesnt make it so. Government makes the decision and makes the laws. Ergo monopolies are functions of government intervention, not the free market.

monopolies form in the ABSENSE of governmental intervention. anyone with a high school education knows that.

Dunce. Name one monopoly today.

6 major multinational corporations preside over 90% of what americans see, read, and hear, pushing capital globalist and mass consumption agendas and division among the masses. This is one reason you're so ill informed and partisanheaded. I'd put that on Clinton, he deregulated the FCC, but heh, "conservatives" are anti govt regulation so that wasn't much of a lift once your democratic party goes republican.

Wall Street. How can that not be considered a monopolistic endeavor that needs to be unwound for the benefit of society at large?

Okay a monopoly occurs when ONE company controls an industry. Six companies is not a monopoly.
How is "Wall Street" a monopoly any more than "Madison Ave" is a monopoly.
No, no. You are too fucking stupid to continue

 

[OnePercenter]

You'd better thank God that the Air Traffic Controllers had an illegal strike, because of it ALL FAA towers have Doppler radar.

Employees aren't commodities!

Agreed employees aren't commodities but I fail to what Reagan firing all the PATCO controllers has to do with technological advancement.

Agreed employees aren't commodities but I fail to what Reagan firing all the PATCO controllers has to do with technological advancement.

Technology was one of the key wants of the controllers. If wind shear conditions existed, controllers had to call the local TV station to find out what area the wind shear existed.

Are you a controller or pilot? What is your expertise in this area?

My expertise when it happened was as a Marine Corps CH-46 pilot.

Are you a controller or pilot? What is your expertise in this area?

My expertise when it happened was as a Marine Corps CH-46 pilot.

So you do understand the dangers of wind shear and why all FAA towers should have Doppler Radar.

 

[The Rabbi]

You'd better thank God that the Air Traffic Controllers had an illegal strike, because of it ALL FAA towers have Doppler radar.

Employees aren't commodities!

Agreed employees aren't commodities but I fail to what Reagan firing all the PATCO controllers has to do with technological advancement.

Agreed employees aren't commodities but I fail to what Reagan firing all the PATCO controllers has to do with technological advancement.

Technology was one of the key wants of the controllers. If wind shear conditions existed, controllers had to call the local TV station to find out what area the wind shear existed.

Are you a controller or pilot? What is your expertise in this area?

My expertise when it happened was as a Marine Corps CH-46 pilot.

Are you a controller or pilot? What is your expertise in this area?

My expertise when it happened was as a Marine Corps CH-46 pilot.

So you do understand the dangers of wind shear and why all FAA towers should have Doppler Radar.

So you are neither a pilot nor controller, merely a poseur.

 

[OnePercenter]

And who do you think lobbied for the policies shoog? Jesus man.

ANyone can lobby for anything, dunce.

I wish you understood how your power structure works. We might be able to converse.

Just because someone lobbies for something doesnt make it so. Government makes the decision and makes the laws. Ergo monopolies are functions of government intervention, not the free market.

monopolies form in the ABSENSE of governmental intervention. anyone with a high school education knows that.

Dunce. Name one monopoly today.

Dunce. Name one monopoly today.

Walmart.

 

[Fenton Lum]

All of them, I donate time to attempting to discuss current events with the handicapped.

You know you're wasting pixels.

It's ok, they'll make more. More pixels = less lost idiots is a stretch, I know, but some of these folks are so unteathered to abject reality it's kinda funny.

Remind me what you've contributed here so far.

I'm waiting on some substance, do you anticipate locating any soon?

You wouldnt know substance if it was on the bottom of your shoe. I've provided links and all. You're just a troll.

And I tried to discuss a/your link with you and poof, ya can't. You can't discuss shit bub. I figured you could google, at least you lived up to that.

 

[Fenton Lum]

ANyone can lobby for anything, dunce.

I wish you understood how your power structure works. We might be able to converse.

Just because someone lobbies for something doesnt make it so. Government makes the decision and makes the laws. Ergo monopolies are functions of government intervention, not the free market.

monopolies form in the ABSENSE of governmental intervention. anyone with a high school education knows that.

Dunce. Name one monopoly today.

Dunce. Name one monopoly today.

Walmart.

Oh fuck, that's gonna leave a mark!

 

[The Rabbi]

ANyone can lobby for anything, dunce.

I wish you understood how your power structure works. We might be able to converse.

Just because someone lobbies for something doesnt make it so. Government makes the decision and makes the laws. Ergo monopolies are functions of government intervention, not the free market.

monopolies form in the ABSENSE of governmental intervention. anyone with a high school education knows that.

Dunce. Name one monopoly today.

Dunce. Name one monopoly today.

Walmart.

LOL!!!! Did you learn that in your masters of business course?
Walmart. Yeah. That's why they're losing in competition with dollar stores, Target, and AMazon. Some monopoly.

 

[Fenton Lum]

I wish you understood how your power structure works. We might be able to converse.

Just because someone lobbies for something doesnt make it so. Government makes the decision and makes the laws. Ergo monopolies are functions of government intervention, not the free market.

monopolies form in the ABSENSE of governmental intervention. anyone with a high school education knows that.

Dunce. Name one monopoly today.

6 major multinational corporations preside over 90% of what americans see, read, and hear, pushing capital globalist and mass consumption agendas and division among the masses. This is one reason you're so ill informed and partisanheaded. I'd put that on Clinton, he deregulated the FCC, but heh, "conservatives" are anti govt regulation so that wasn't much of a lift once your democratic party goes republican.

Wall Street. How can that not be considered a monopolistic endeavor that needs to be unwound for the benefit of society at large?

Okay a monopoly occurs when ONE company controls an industry. Six companies is not a monopoly.
How is "Wall Street" a monopoly any more than "Madison Ave" is a monopoly.
No, no. You are too fucking stupid to continue

It's control to the extent that there is no free market at work in that particular niche of the economy. I figured you'd do something like this.

 

[Fenton Lum]

I wish you understood how your power structure works. We might be able to converse.

Just because someone lobbies for something doesnt make it so. Government makes the decision and makes the laws. Ergo monopolies are functions of government intervention, not the free market.

monopolies form in the ABSENSE of governmental intervention. anyone with a high school education knows that.

Dunce. Name one monopoly today.

Dunce. Name one monopoly today.

Walmart.

LOL!!!! Did you learn that in your masters of business course?
Walmart. Yeah. That's why they're losing in competition with dollar stores, Target, and AMazon. Some monopoly.

You're off, ya got nailed, you're just a loud mouthed gutless coward.

 

[OnePercenter]

You'd better thank God that the Air Traffic Controllers had an illegal strike, because of it ALL FAA towers have Doppler radar.

Employees aren't commodities!

Agreed employees aren't commodities but I fail to what Reagan firing all the PATCO controllers has to do with technological advancement.

Agreed employees aren't commodities but I fail to what Reagan firing all the PATCO controllers has to do with technological advancement.

Technology was one of the key wants of the controllers. If wind shear conditions existed, controllers had to call the local TV station to find out what area the wind shear existed.

Are you a controller or pilot? What is your expertise in this area?

My expertise when it happened was as a Marine Corps CH-46 pilot.

Are you a controller or pilot? What is your expertise in this area?

My expertise when it happened was as a Marine Corps CH-46 pilot.

So you do understand the dangers of wind shear and why all FAA towers should have Doppler Radar.

So you are neither a pilot nor controller, merely a poseur.

So you are neither a pilot nor controller, merely a poseur.

Why does one need to be a pilot or controller to understand wind shear?

 

[The Rabbi]

Agreed employees aren't commodities but I fail to what Reagan firing all the PATCO controllers has to do with technological advancement.

Agreed employees aren't commodities but I fail to what Reagan firing all the PATCO controllers has to do with technological advancement.

Technology was one of the key wants of the controllers. If wind shear conditions existed, controllers had to call the local TV station to find out what area the wind shear existed.

Are you a controller or pilot? What is your expertise in this area?

My expertise when it happened was as a Marine Corps CH-46 pilot.

Are you a controller or pilot? What is your expertise in this area?

My expertise when it happened was as a Marine Corps CH-46 pilot.

So you do understand the dangers of wind shear and why all FAA towers should have Doppler Radar.

So you are neither a pilot nor controller, merely a poseur.

So you are neither a pilot nor controller, merely a poseur.

Why does one need to be a pilot or controller to understand wind shear?

They dont. They could be a physicist or engineer as well. Which one of these are you?
LOL!!!

 

[OnePercenter]

I wish you understood how your power structure works. We might be able to converse.

Just because someone lobbies for something doesnt make it so. Government makes the decision and makes the laws. Ergo monopolies are functions of government intervention, not the free market.

monopolies form in the ABSENSE of governmental intervention. anyone with a high school education knows that.

Dunce. Name one monopoly today.

Dunce. Name one monopoly today.

Walmart.

LOL!!!! Did you learn that in your masters of business course?
Walmart. Yeah. That's why they're losing in competition with dollar stores, Target, and AMazon. Some monopoly.

LOL!!!! Did you learn that in your masters of business course?
Walmart. Yeah. That's why they're losing in competition with dollar stores, Target, and AMazon. Some monopoly.

Walmart is many times larger than those you listed. Walmart dictates how much you pay for a product, and how much they pay for a product. Monopoly.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Just because someone lobbies for something doesnt make it so. Government makes the decision and makes the laws. Ergo monopolies are functions of government intervention, not the free market.

monopolies form in the ABSENSE of governmental intervention. anyone with a high school education knows that.

Dunce. Name one monopoly today.

Dunce. Name one monopoly today.

Walmart.

LOL!!!! Did you learn that in your masters of business course?
Walmart. Yeah. That's why they're losing in competition with dollar stores, Target, and AMazon. Some monopoly.

LOL!!!! Did you learn that in your masters of business course?
Walmart. Yeah. That's why they're losing in competition with dollar stores, Target, and AMazon. Some monopoly.

Walmart is many times larger than those you listed. Walmart dictates how much you pay for a product, and how much they pay for a product. Monopoly.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand we have a winner. Looka that. No name calling, calm, not snide, verbally efficient, rational, reasoned. Damn.

 

[The Rabbi]

Just because someone lobbies for something doesnt make it so. Government makes the decision and makes the laws. Ergo monopolies are functions of government intervention, not the free market.

monopolies form in the ABSENSE of governmental intervention. anyone with a high school education knows that.

Dunce. Name one monopoly today.

Dunce. Name one monopoly today.

Walmart.

LOL!!!! Did you learn that in your masters of business course?
Walmart. Yeah. That's why they're losing in competition with dollar stores, Target, and AMazon. Some monopoly.

LOL!!!! Did you learn that in your masters of business course?
Walmart. Yeah. That's why they're losing in competition with dollar stores, Target, and AMazon. Some monopoly.

Walmart is many times larger than those you listed. Walmart dictates how much you pay for a product, and how much they pay for a product. Monopoly.

Every business dictates how much you pay for their product, moron. Did they not teach you this in your masters in business course?

 

[OnePercenter]

Agreed employees aren't commodities but I fail to what Reagan firing all the PATCO controllers has to do with technological advancement.

Technology was one of the key wants of the controllers. If wind shear conditions existed, controllers had to call the local TV station to find out what area the wind shear existed.

Are you a controller or pilot? What is your expertise in this area?

My expertise when it happened was as a Marine Corps CH-46 pilot.

Are you a controller or pilot? What is your expertise in this area?

My expertise when it happened was as a Marine Corps CH-46 pilot.

So you do understand the dangers of wind shear and why all FAA towers should have Doppler Radar.

So you are neither a pilot nor controller, merely a poseur.

So you are neither a pilot nor controller, merely a poseur.

Why does one need to be a pilot or controller to understand wind shear?

They dont. They could be a physicist or engineer as well. Which one of these are you?
LOL!!!

They dont. They could be a physicist or engineer as well. Which one of these are you?
LOL!!!

I own part of a Global 5000.

 

[The Rabbi]

Are you a controller or pilot? What is your expertise in this area?

My expertise when it happened was as a Marine Corps CH-46 pilot.

Are you a controller or pilot? What is your expertise in this area?

My expertise when it happened was as a Marine Corps CH-46 pilot.

So you do understand the dangers of wind shear and why all FAA towers should have Doppler Radar.

So you are neither a pilot nor controller, merely a poseur.

So you are neither a pilot nor controller, merely a poseur.

Why does one need to be a pilot or controller to understand wind shear?

They dont. They could be a physicist or engineer as well. Which one of these are you?
LOL!!!

They dont. They could be a physicist or engineer as well. Which one of these are you?
LOL!!!

I own part of a Global 5000.

Is that some model airplane? Yeah that would qualify you. For poseur.

 

[OnePercenter]

monopolies form in the ABSENSE of governmental intervention. anyone with a high school education knows that.

Dunce. Name one monopoly today.

Dunce. Name one monopoly today.

Walmart.

LOL!!!! Did you learn that in your masters of business course?
Walmart. Yeah. That's why they're losing in competition with dollar stores, Target, and AMazon. Some monopoly.

LOL!!!! Did you learn that in your masters of business course?
Walmart. Yeah. That's why they're losing in competition with dollar stores, Target, and AMazon. Some monopoly.

Walmart is many times larger than those you listed. Walmart dictates how much you pay for a product, and how much they pay for a product. Monopoly.

Every business dictates how much you pay for their product, moron. Did they not teach you this in your masters in business course?

Every business dictates how much you pay for their product, moron. Did they not teach you this in your masters in business course?

Dictates, What an autocratically induced word.

What an MBA degree teaches is how much an employee that makes you all of your money should receive in pay.

 

[kaz]

Just because someone lobbies for something doesnt make it so. Government makes the decision and makes the laws. Ergo monopolies are functions of government intervention, not the free market.

You have some, ahem, rather interesting pronouncements. You can't really articulate, explain, or discuss anything. You just spin off one liners and slogans.

These should be obvious to anyone with a high school education. Tht clearly doesnt include you.
PLease name a monopoly today that was not created by the government,.

These should be obvious to anyone with a high school education. Tht clearly doesnt include you.
PLease name a monopoly today that was not created by the government,.

Please name a monopoly that wasn't created by Republicans.

Water, airwaves, Ma Bell, utilities, Microsoft (in the day), steel, oil, health insurance, roads, the post office, law enforcement, the courts, the military

Name monopolies that were created by Republicans

You just drop and run? Don't you want to explain some of this at least?

Airways I get, Clinton and Co deregulated the FCC and as a result we now have 6 major multinational corporations presiding over 90% what americans see, hear, and read. That being said, we get fed not govt propraganda, but corporate propaganda. The post office is a monopoly? Roads, law enforcement, the courts, the military are monopolies? Created by democrats alone? Water?

Please go on.

WTF are you talking about? You asked what monopolies were not created by Republicans. I didn't say they were created by Democrats. I answered the question you asked.

Now it's your turn, what monopolies were created by "Republicans?"