The DANGEROUS ESCALATION of Online Censorship

Also for the record, it was specifically the domain registrar (though it could be both).

There are companies that could "rescue" the domain name and there are hosts who are more interested in the money than they are "sensitive feelings" - because really,
I agree, the internet is in serious danger of being censored from all angles; it was bad enough when it was just hosting companies restricting free speech. Now we have domain name registrars restricting free speech as well (yea I am talking about stormfront) Down side is it's already too late.

At some point you lefty fools are going to be burned, your going to say something off the cuff (and I've been here long enough to see some of the horrid things you folks say) and boom you'll be shut down, your favorite site will be removed, your social media posts edited or deleted, accounts closed, etc. You don't care now because you think the censors are on "your side," but what's "okay" and "censorable" will change over time, it always does. Laugh it up while it's still funny to you because once it starts going away, it's going to disappear really fast and before you know it we might as well live in North Korea or Russia where there is no freedom of speech on the internet and only "approved" information is allowed out for public consumption.

You can already see the devastating effects this kind of shit has; stop visiting any other information site on the web, get all your news from the MSM and then come back here to this site (which actually does pretty good at giving news from all fronts) and realize what you've missed. I get that you want to hate President Trump, so all the MSM's bullshit with him is "okay" in your book because it feeds your dislike of him, but at some point you folks will open your eyes and realize that letting the media pick your president for you isn't very smart at all - and yes, that is exactly what is going on, and why we suddenly have a rash of right side view points being scoured from the internet (because President Trump proved without a doubt that the internet could get around the media's stranglehold on public opinion.)

I feel damned sorry for you "wool blinded" sheep who cannot see the slaughterhouse on the other side of the pasture. On the other hand, you won't even know whats happening until it's too late and you find your muzzles taped up so you can't complain about it being your turn. ~shrug~

I saw it coming with like.. GoDaddy and web.com mass-purchasing domain names.


I'm sure there's still some tool out there where you could plug in a bunch of variables to get something remotely similar to what you're looking for.

Do I like the way Stormfront got shut down? No.

Could it have been prevented by them hosting their own site? Yes.

Quite certain this site is hosted in an identical fashion to the way Stormfront was.

"Could it have been prevented by them hosting their own site? Yes."

NO. They took the domain name, not the hosting that's a minor issue frankly; however the guy running stormfront had both hosting and his domain through NS.

Hosting you can do on your own computer anytime you want FYI. The domain name though has to be rigged up with the rest of the web - a function that the US used to monitor and hold to US standards - kind of like how they dealt with telephone numbers belonging to the person and being transferable, but Obama gave the domain handling up in 2015 - global public outrage had delayed it until March 2017, but it couldn't be delayed again so now it's gone to whomever the hell buys the registrar companies.

Ooo, that has changed, and not for the better.
 
Don't want to veer too off topic but concerning BLM, everyone knows about the 'pigs in a blanket fry em like bacon' chants, and the ferguson riots which went on forever. They released a set of outrageous demands recently mostly about white people giving them all their stuff or whatever. ...It's a hate group plain and simple.
 
Internet censorship is like the phone company cutting off your line because they didn't like a conversation you had. The government should regulate google and it's ilk as they would a public utility.



I have a landline in Cali and AT&T and the government wants to take it away around 2020. My phone doesn't need electricity nor the internet to make calls. It's old, but works with copper wires, POTS and is more reliable in emergencies. The only way we can keep it is via regulations of a public utility. The internet giveth and the internet taketh away without public regulation.

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Regulate the fack out of Google.
 
I agree, the internet is in serious danger of being censored from all angles; it was bad enough when it was just hosting companies restricting free speech. Now we have domain name registrars restricting free speech as well (yea I am talking about stormfront) Down side is it's already too late.

At some point you lefty fools are going to be burned, your going to say something off the cuff (and I've been here long enough to see some of the horrid things you folks say) and boom you'll be shut down, your favorite site will be removed, your social media posts edited or deleted, accounts closed, etc. You don't care now because you think the censors are on "your side," but what's "okay" and "censorable" will change over time, it always does. Laugh it up while it's still funny to you because once it starts going away, it's going to disappear really fast and before you know it we might as well live in North Korea or Russia where there is no freedom of speech on the internet and only "approved" information is allowed out for public consumption.

You can already see the devastating effects this kind of shit has; stop visiting any other information site on the web, get all your news from the MSM and then come back here to this site (which actually does pretty good at giving news from all fronts) and realize what you've missed. I get that you want to hate President Trump, so all the MSM's bullshit with him is "okay" in your book because it feeds your dislike of him, but at some point you folks will open your eyes and realize that letting the media pick your president for you isn't very smart at all - and yes, that is exactly what is going on, and why we suddenly have a rash of right side view points being scoured from the internet (because President Trump proved without a doubt that the internet could get around the media's stranglehold on public opinion.)

I feel damned sorry for you "wool blinded" sheep who cannot see the slaughterhouse on the other side of the pasture. On the other hand, you won't even know whats happening until it's too late and you find your muzzles taped up so you can't complain about it being your turn. ~shrug~
No, you folks who use your privilege of free speech to spread hate for fellow Americans are the ones who blew your chance, fouled your own nest. No one is going to take away a reasonable person's freedom of speech. You have no right to broadcast your views internationally because they denigrate and demean whole groups of people unfairly. Maybe that's okay some places, but I'm glad that hosting company booted Stormfront off and I hope they don't find another to host them. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Till its your turn... And someone decides to silence the liberal filth, that you,and your ilk issue forth... Then you'll be singing a different tune. And no one will hear it.
I've never called for ending any race or religion or said they were dumber than me or inferior to me. So why would my words be "censored?"
No one has suggested that you feel you should be silenced... Don't be absurd. Just like you believe your stances are justifiable, and correct; so do others. After all they can bring forth information to support their stance , just as you can. Except you want their ability to do so restrained or eliminated all together. Have they done the same to you? No.
Because I'm not a hate group.
 
Internet censorship is like the phone company cutting off your line because they didn't like a conversation you had. The government should regulate google and it's **its** ilk as they would a public utility.




There you go again, dishonestly preaching that it's only the government we have to stand up to and not the private-sector moderators. "It's their message board; they have the right to censor us all they want."

Only if we let them. Only if we fall for the authoritarians' lie that only a government can become a tyranny.
 
The situation is, as I support an individuals right to Free Speech and Free Thought, I will defend an individuals right to express both regardless of whether I agree or disagree with them.

The only time that I agree there should be censorship is with the advocation and support of Paedophilia and cruelty to animals.

ISIS videos, why aren't those being censored? As I said in my intro thread, I was banned from Facebook for saying 'die commie', but they said the video I reported of a little baby being hanged did not violate their community standards.
A BABY.
BEING HANGED.
 
Also for the record, it was specifically the domain registrar (though it could be both).

There are companies that could "rescue" the domain name and there are hosts who are more interested in the money than they are "sensitive feelings" - because really,
I agree, the internet is in serious danger of being censored from all angles; it was bad enough when it was just hosting companies restricting free speech. Now we have domain name registrars restricting free speech as well (yea I am talking about stormfront) Down side is it's already too late.

At some point you lefty fools are going to be burned, your going to say something off the cuff (and I've been here long enough to see some of the horrid things you folks say) and boom you'll be shut down, your favorite site will be removed, your social media posts edited or deleted, accounts closed, etc. You don't care now because you think the censors are on "your side," but what's "okay" and "censorable" will change over time, it always does. Laugh it up while it's still funny to you because once it starts going away, it's going to disappear really fast and before you know it we might as well live in North Korea or Russia where there is no freedom of speech on the internet and only "approved" information is allowed out for public consumption.

You can already see the devastating effects this kind of shit has; stop visiting any other information site on the web, get all your news from the MSM and then come back here to this site (which actually does pretty good at giving news from all fronts) and realize what you've missed. I get that you want to hate President Trump, so all the MSM's bullshit with him is "okay" in your book because it feeds your dislike of him, but at some point you folks will open your eyes and realize that letting the media pick your president for you isn't very smart at all - and yes, that is exactly what is going on, and why we suddenly have a rash of right side view points being scoured from the internet (because President Trump proved without a doubt that the internet could get around the media's stranglehold on public opinion.)

I feel damned sorry for you "wool blinded" sheep who cannot see the slaughterhouse on the other side of the pasture. On the other hand, you won't even know whats happening until it's too late and you find your muzzles taped up so you can't complain about it being your turn. ~shrug~

I saw it coming with like.. GoDaddy and web.com mass-purchasing domain names.


I'm sure there's still some tool out there where you could plug in a bunch of variables to get something remotely similar to what you're looking for.

Do I like the way Stormfront got shut down? No.

Could it have been prevented by them hosting their own site? Yes.

Quite certain this site is hosted in an identical fashion to the way Stormfront was.

"Could it have been prevented by them hosting their own site? Yes."

NO. They took the domain name, not the hosting that's a minor issue frankly; however the guy running stormfront had both hosting and his domain through NS.

Hosting you can do on your own computer anytime you want FYI. The domain name though has to be rigged up with the rest of the web - a function that the US used to monitor and hold to US standards - kind of like how they dealt with telephone numbers belonging to the person and being transferable, but Obama gave the domain handling up in 2015 - global public outrage had delayed it until March 2017, but it couldn't be delayed again so now it's gone to whomever the hell buys the registrar companies.

Ooo, that has changed, and not for the better.

Aye. I'm going to cry in laughter when some lefty corporation pisses off their register by expressing political or ideological views and looses their domain name. You can't even get it back, there's no longer like a US trademark protection or anything because we let it go - now it's like the wild west. No security or protection at all and worse, you can't even defend yourself because there's not even someone to bitch to anymore. Meh maybe INAN will step up and protect freedom on the internet, I suspect that is where Stormfront will take their legal complaint.

I mean it's fine that NS doesn't want to hold their registrar, but Stormfront should have been given an option to transfer to another registrar, they should have been warned, etc. Even if NS kept the reg fee as a "penalty" for breaking the rules or whatever.

Stormfront could pay (I believe its $4k) to have his own registry and it seems that's what folks are going to have to do, really cuts out the small voices though, which is why I say we "sold" control of the internet...
 
Can't let corporations grow more powerful than the government, I don't care if that violates someones' idea of conservatism. It's a new age we're living in.
 
The situation is, as I support an individuals right to Free Speech and Free Thought, I will defend an individuals right to express both regardless of whether I agree or disagree with them.

The only time that I agree there should be censorship is with the advocation and support of Paedophilia and cruelty to animals.

ISIS videos, why aren't those being censored? As I said in my intro thread, I was banned from Facebook for saying 'die commie', but they said the video I reported of a little baby being hanged did not violate their community standards.
A BABY.
BEING HANGED.
the video I reported of a little baby being hanged did not violate their community standards.
A BABY.
BEING HANGED.

Excuse me, but that sounds like a big fat lie to me.
 
I agree, the internet is in serious danger of being censored from all angles; it was bad enough when it was just hosting companies restricting free speech. Now we have domain name registrars restricting free speech as well (yea I am talking about stormfront) Down side is it's already too late.

At some point you lefty fools are going to be burned, your going to say something off the cuff (and I've been here long enough to see some of the horrid things you folks say) and boom you'll be shut down, your favorite site will be removed, your social media posts edited or deleted, accounts closed, etc. You don't care now because you think the censors are on "your side," but what's "okay" and "censorable" will change over time, it always does. Laugh it up while it's still funny to you because once it starts going away, it's going to disappear really fast and before you know it we might as well live in North Korea or Russia where there is no freedom of speech on the internet and only "approved" information is allowed out for public consumption.

You can already see the devastating effects this kind of shit has; stop visiting any other information site on the web, get all your news from the MSM and then come back here to this site (which actually does pretty good at giving news from all fronts) and realize what you've missed. I get that you want to hate President Trump, so all the MSM's bullshit with him is "okay" in your book because it feeds your dislike of him, but at some point you folks will open your eyes and realize that letting the media pick your president for you isn't very smart at all - and yes, that is exactly what is going on, and why we suddenly have a rash of right side view points being scoured from the internet (because President Trump proved without a doubt that the internet could get around the media's stranglehold on public opinion.)

I feel damned sorry for you "wool blinded" sheep who cannot see the slaughterhouse on the other side of the pasture. On the other hand, you won't even know whats happening until it's too late and you find your muzzles taped up so you can't complain about it being your turn. ~shrug~
No, you folks who use your privilege of free speech to spread hate for fellow Americans are the ones who blew your chance, fouled your own nest. No one is going to take away a reasonable person's freedom of speech. You have no right to broadcast your views internationally because they denigrate and demean whole groups of people unfairly. Maybe that's okay some places, but I'm glad that hosting company booted Stormfront off and I hope they don't find another to host them. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Till its your turn... And someone decides to silence the liberal filth, that you,and your ilk issue forth... Then you'll be singing a different tune. And no one will hear it.
I've never called for ending any race or religion or said they were dumber than me or inferior to me. So why would my words be "censored?"
No one has suggested that you feel you should be silenced... Don't be absurd. Just like you believe your stances are justifiable, and correct; so do others. After all they can bring forth information to support their stance , just as you can. Except you want their ability to do so restrained or eliminated all together. Have they done the same to you? No.
Because I'm not a hate group.
No. You're an individual. And your likes, dislikes, loves, and hates are irrelevant. They are yours alone; and your welcome to them. As for "hate group"... Don't make me laugh... That is a leftist conjuration designed specifically to villainize a group of peoe who hold a differing point of view. Yet another glaring example of leftist totalitarianism.
 
Wait, you mean like the way 'you folks' spread your hate for the President of the United States? Or Trump supporters? Or the alt-right? Or religious folks?

Trust me the tables will turn at some point and you won't like being on the receiving end of it any more than us right lean's do. Its okay though little sheep, chew your cud some more...
Political arguments are not the same as racial and religious bigotry. Disagreeing over abortion or how the President conducts himself does not equal "hate speech." It can get pretty ugly, I agree, though.

"Political arguments are not the same as racial and religious bigotry."

BLM supporters can state "Kill All White People", "Death to Whitey", "The only good White person is a dead one"

The God Haters can post "Fuck Jesus", "Death to Christians"

This is acceptable it does not get censorsed, actually it's actively encouraged. The above is Hate Speech.
Funny, but the people I hear who represent BLM don't say those things when discussing their viewpoints. It is certainly not part of their mission statement. I don't know anything about God haters. I stay out of arguments about religion.
I agree that if an organization does REALLY and TRULY stands for supremacy over another race or religion, and advocates removing that group from the country or the planet, that they should be labelled a hate group, no matter which group they are representing. Maybe their are individuals in BLM that are given a "pass" because people are so afraid of being erroneously labeled a "racist," but extreme individuals in every movement can sometimes give the whole movement a bad name. I don't know what you do about that. It is definitely not the case with the Stormfront crowd, though. That is their mission and they aren't afraid to say so.

The point there illustrates how pathetic this all is, the fanatical Political Correctness horsecrap.

BLM are a Hate Organisation, they preach Hate and advocate Open Violence against White people, especially White police officers and some of their members have killed police officers eg. Dallas, Texas.

Yet BLM are given a pass because they are Black Supremacists, shutting them down would according to the insanity of Political Correctness be racist.
That guy who shot the cops in Dallas was a fanatic who used the BLM protest to take aim at cops. What better way to do it than a protest in Texas where open carry is allowed and a guy walking around with body armor and his rifle is just "one of the crowd." He had issues with BLM, according to his social media statements. He was way, way out there and every single BLM person I heard speak about it denied him and condemned what he did.
I don't know where you get your information, Lucy. Yes, I've heard protesters scream awful things. So did the neo-Nazi's in Charlottesville. I don't like any of it.

This is what Black Lives Matter said about the shooting of 5 police officers in Dallas:

The Black Lives Matter Network advocates for dignity, justice, and respect.

In the last few days, this country witnessed the recorded murders of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile at the hands of police, the latest victims in this country’s failed policing system. As we have done for decades, we marched and protested to highlight the urgent need to transform policing in America, to call for justice, transparency and accountability, and to demand that Black Lives Matter.

In Dallas, many gathered to do the same, joining in a day of action with friends, family and co-workers. Their efforts were cut short when a lone gunman targeted and attacked 11 police officers, killing five. This is a tragedy–both for those who have been impacted by yesterday’s attack and for our democracy. There are some who would use these events to stifle a movement for change and quicken the demise of a vibrant discourse on the human rights of Black Americans. We should reject all of this.

Black activists have raised the call for an end to violence, not an escalation of it. Yesterday’s attack was the result of the actions of a lone gunman. To assign the actions of one person to an entire movement is dangerous and irresponsible. We continue our efforts to bring about a better world for all of us.
Black Lives Matter Leaders Respond to Dallas Police Shooting

Yes and people condemned the man with the car at Charlottesville, but they still got targeted by the Leftist Maniacs and the Propaganda MSM and the Professional Hate Organisation the SPLC.

So why aren't all the BLM and New Black Panther and Antifa websites ALL shut down and for that matter why are the NAMBLA paedophile websites still up?
 
You're supposed to add some context to your posts.

Just watch the video.
It still excludes small-business tyranny. The source of our weak, selective, hypocritical, and self-congratulating alliance may even go as far as personal interactions, where we're afraid to say things like, "When I want your advice, I'll ask for it."
 
The situation is, as I support an individuals right to Free Speech and Free Thought, I will defend an individuals right to express both regardless of whether I agree or disagree with them.

The only time that I agree there should be censorship is with the advocation and support of Paedophilia and cruelty to animals.

ISIS videos, why aren't those being censored? As I said in my intro thread, I was banned from Facebook for saying 'die commie', but they said the video I reported of a little baby being hanged did not violate their community standards.
A BABY.
BEING HANGED.
the video I reported of a little baby being hanged did not violate their community standards.
A BABY.
BEING HANGED.

Excuse me, but that sounds like a big fat lie to me.

They have no problem with ISIS, Twitter have not shut them down, they also had NO problem with that mad woman who posed with the severed head of The Donald.

Their violation of community standards policy is hypocritical and pathetic.

What you have, as Google illustrated when an employee was thrown out for having a different opinion than the expected Group Think, is that Google, Twitter, Facebook are monitored by groups of SJWs who are PAID to flag comments that do not subscribe to the Leftist Totalitarian Politically Correct Agenda.
 
Can't let corporations grow more powerful than the government, I don't care if that violates someones' idea of conservatism. It's a new age we're living in.

They need breaking up, Google, Facebook, Twitter etc, all are now operating as a Collective Tyranny and instigating Witch Hunts using their Army of SJWs who they pay to flag and stalk anyone who dares to have a different opinion than the expected Political Correctness Group Think.

People only have to comment they support The Donald and they immediately are targeted for abuse and harrassment and the SJW faggots even trying to get people fired from their jobs.
 
Semi-related - Today in the more you know.

It's hard to explain how the internet works because most folks have no clue. I think I've got a decent comparison that folks will "get" though.

Hosting is like renting an apartment. If you piss off your landlord they can throw you out. Except without regulations (like we have on renting in the US) it's a free for all "globally" so like if the Host doesn't like your political viewpoints they can shut you down and shit - this goes for YouTube, Facebook, etc. All of them are like landlords who can oust you for almost any reason. Anyone can host a site on their personal computer, kind of like you own your own home - and in fact all hosts are pretty much "houses" in this analogy - they can do whatever they want because they own the "house" so to speak.

However, a domain name is more like your physical/mailing address. What happened to Stormfront is very much like someone just showed up and pulled his physical/mailing address; no one can find his house, no one can send him mail, etc.

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Regardless of if you agree with the views expressed on Stormfront or not, the fact that a single company entity (which I'll point out that NS [which is actually now web.com] was sued for monopolizing back in the beginning) can control where /you/ are allowed to visit on the web is a dangerous situation. This isn't the first time NS has pulled this crap either, in fact ICANN and US monitoring came about /because/ of them doing this crap. However, Obama decided "we the people of the world" didn't need the protection and let it go. Now NS is back to their same bullshit; bastards didn't even wait a full year...


See also - Network Solutions - Wikipedia
In the 1990s, Network Solutions implemented a policy of censoring domain names. This came to light when Jeff Gold attempted to register the domain name shitakemushrooms.com but was unable to. Further aggravating the controversy was Network Solutions' automated screens blocked the registration of shitakemushrooms.com, though the domain name 'shit.com' had been successfully registered.[24] Network Solutions argued that it was within its First Amendment rights to block words it found offensive, even though it was operating pursuant to contract with a Federal agency.[16][25]

Network Solutions' $100 charge, which many parties believed was excessive, in addition to its monopoly position in the market, was one of the contributing pressures that resulted in the creation of the International Ad Hoc Committee and its failed attempt to take control of the domain name system, and to the US Department of Commerce, NTIA releasing the White Paper and ultimately contracting with the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) to administer the DNS.

With the formation of ICANN in 1998, the domain name industry opened up to partial competition, with NSI retaining its monopoly on .com, .net and .org but having to recognize a separation of registry, which manages the underlying database of domain names, and registrar, which acts as a retail provider of domain names. To achieve this separation, NSI created a "firewall" between the two new divisions of the business, creating separate technical infrastructure, organizations, and facilities. By the end of 1999 the fee for registration had been reduced, from $34.99,[26] to a wholesale rate of $6 per year to registered resellers.
 
No, you folks who use your privilege of free speech to spread hate for fellow Americans are the ones who blew your chance, fouled your own nest. No one is going to take away a reasonable person's freedom of speech. You have no right to broadcast your views internationally because they denigrate and demean whole groups of people unfairly. Maybe that's okay some places, but I'm glad that hosting company booted Stormfront off and I hope they don't find another to host them. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Till its your turn... And someone decides to silence the liberal filth, that you,and your ilk issue forth... Then you'll be singing a different tune. And no one will hear it.
I've never called for ending any race or religion or said they were dumber than me or inferior to me. So why would my words be "censored?"
No one has suggested that you feel you should be silenced... Don't be absurd. Just like you believe your stances are justifiable, and correct; so do others. After all they can bring forth information to support their stance , just as you can. Except you want their ability to do so restrained or eliminated all together. Have they done the same to you? No.
Because I'm not a hate group.
No. You're an individual. And your likes, dislikes, loves, and hates are irrelevant. They are yours alone; and your welcome to them. As for "hate group"... Don't make me laugh... That is a leftist conjuration designed specifically to villainize a group of peoe who hold a differing point of view. Yet another glaring example of leftist totalitarianism.
They are villainized because of their point of view. It is a group of people who exist solely bound together by hate of another group of people. Hence the name. The left did not make that up.

They have a right to hold that view, but perhaps not being able to broadcast it on the internet is not the worst thing in the world. They can, anyway. They just need to pay more for it.

You know, when I was growing up, Boston was banning rock songs left and right. Henry Miller couldn't be published in this country due to the obscenity. Mailer's Naked and the Dead had to replace "fuck" with "fug," which leads the reader to think all the soldiers in that book have a bad head cold. When the courts ruled to open wide the doors of "free speech" and no censorship, they may have gone a tad too far, imo.
 
Political arguments are not the same as racial and religious bigotry. Disagreeing over abortion or how the President conducts himself does not equal "hate speech." It can get pretty ugly, I agree, though.

"Political arguments are not the same as racial and religious bigotry."

BLM supporters can state "Kill All White People", "Death to Whitey", "The only good White person is a dead one"

The God Haters can post "Fuck Jesus", "Death to Christians"

This is acceptable it does not get censorsed, actually it's actively encouraged. The above is Hate Speech.
Funny, but the people I hear who represent BLM don't say those things when discussing their viewpoints. It is certainly not part of their mission statement. I don't know anything about God haters. I stay out of arguments about religion.
I agree that if an organization does REALLY and TRULY stands for supremacy over another race or religion, and advocates removing that group from the country or the planet, that they should be labelled a hate group, no matter which group they are representing. Maybe their are individuals in BLM that are given a "pass" because people are so afraid of being erroneously labeled a "racist," but extreme individuals in every movement can sometimes give the whole movement a bad name. I don't know what you do about that. It is definitely not the case with the Stormfront crowd, though. That is their mission and they aren't afraid to say so.

The point there illustrates how pathetic this all is, the fanatical Political Correctness horsecrap.

BLM are a Hate Organisation, they preach Hate and advocate Open Violence against White people, especially White police officers and some of their members have killed police officers eg. Dallas, Texas.

Yet BLM are given a pass because they are Black Supremacists, shutting them down would according to the insanity of Political Correctness be racist.
That guy who shot the cops in Dallas was a fanatic who used the BLM protest to take aim at cops. What better way to do it than a protest in Texas where open carry is allowed and a guy walking around with body armor and his rifle is just "one of the crowd." He had issues with BLM, according to his social media statements. He was way, way out there and every single BLM person I heard speak about it denied him and condemned what he did.
I don't know where you get your information, Lucy. Yes, I've heard protesters scream awful things. So did the neo-Nazi's in Charlottesville. I don't like any of it.

This is what Black Lives Matter said about the shooting of 5 police officers in Dallas:

The Black Lives Matter Network advocates for dignity, justice, and respect.

In the last few days, this country witnessed the recorded murders of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile at the hands of police, the latest victims in this country’s failed policing system. As we have done for decades, we marched and protested to highlight the urgent need to transform policing in America, to call for justice, transparency and accountability, and to demand that Black Lives Matter.

In Dallas, many gathered to do the same, joining in a day of action with friends, family and co-workers. Their efforts were cut short when a lone gunman targeted and attacked 11 police officers, killing five. This is a tragedy–both for those who have been impacted by yesterday’s attack and for our democracy. There are some who would use these events to stifle a movement for change and quicken the demise of a vibrant discourse on the human rights of Black Americans. We should reject all of this.

Black activists have raised the call for an end to violence, not an escalation of it. Yesterday’s attack was the result of the actions of a lone gunman. To assign the actions of one person to an entire movement is dangerous and irresponsible. We continue our efforts to bring about a better world for all of us.
Black Lives Matter Leaders Respond to Dallas Police Shooting

Yes and people condemned the man with the car at Charlottesville, but they still got targeted by the Leftist Maniacs and the Propaganda MSM and the Professional Hate Organisation the SPLC.

So why aren't all the BLM and New Black Panther and Antifa websites ALL shut down and for that matter why are the NAMBLA paedophile websites still up?
You not even bothering to read my posts, Lucy? They aren't THAT long.
I do believe some on the left are finally calling Antifa what it is. We'll see if that gains traction. I hope it does. I have nothing against people protesting against fascists, but the violence? No.
 

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