The "death" of the Republican Party will "save" America.

[Shelzin]

Sure it is. It has been that way historically. The reason the Dems claim otherwise is to divert from the fact that they are truly the party of racism and bigotry.

Why drive buses with delegates around in circles while a vote is going on then? Obviously it was going to fail with those people there.

I mean the mic was in a different place than where the chair was residing... But it sounded like the "no's" won that. I'm willing stipulate that maybe it was different where he was though. I don't have a problem with that.

But with ... What was it? Three bus loads of people not there when the vote happened... Yeah... I'm sorry. Evidence does not support your stance that they are about any minority anymore.

 

[daveman]

they have to back him up Dave.....otherwise this fucker will Sue like a sonofabitch....they dont want to,they know what the guy is like they hate him too...........but the fucker is shrewd Dave.....so far he has not violated anything that can get him canned....and he has been doing this for at least 20 fucking years!....

JoeB says it's because the guy's boss won't recognize his awesome work.

Of course, JoeB is a moron.

he could be the greatest Letter Carrier there is.....he still is an asshole....

Joe says it's not his fault the guy's an asshole. His boss isn't kissing his ass enough.

Or some stupid shit that absolves a worker of his responsibilities.

 

[koshergrl]

"Jeannette Pickering Rankin (June 11, 1880 – May 18, 1973) was the first woman in the United States Congress. A Republican, she was elected statewide in Montana in 1916 and again in 1940."

Jeannette Rankin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[daveman]

Right. All those wreckless loans and junk bonds, and bundling toxic mortgages... that was the goernment's fault... not Wall Street's at all.

YOu see, the problem is, they did it your way. Your boy Bush was in there with deregulation for 8 years... and that was the result.

If you could do anything but regurgitate the crap you've been fed, you might be interesting to talk to.

But you can't.

Oh, and didn't you vote for Bush?

Yes I did.

Then Bush is your boy, too, then.

And I even believed the crap that we needed less regulation to free up business.

And then I saw the result.

Oh, initially, i tried to dance out the line that the CRA cause the mess, but that didn't really pass even moderate scrutiny.

If you beleive in something, and it doesn't work, you try something else.

I've been giving the De-regulation, less taxes, supply side, free trade crap 32 years to work its magic, and frankly, there's no magic.

Time to try something else.

Euro-style socialism ain't it. It's an utter disaster and completely unsustainable.

Or didn't they teach you that in Commie Ass-Sucking History school?

No, they wouldn't, would they?

 

[daveman]

Joe when this guy was fairly new and we did not know yet how he is.....he kinda gave us a hint of things to come.....he was telling us about growing up in the Bronx and how kids would yell Jewish insults at him while throwing rocks at him all the way home from school....probably because he was an Asshole then too....

Sounds like a damaged person. How old is this guy?

Your other statement is that he could be a great letter carrier, but still an asshole.

Is your problem with him he's an asshole or that he doesn't do his job.

I would see both being a problem. I've seen guys who were the opposite. Personally very nice but sort of useless.

Can there be a happy medium, a way to protect employees from bad bosses but still be able to correct the bad apples? I ask that rhetorically, because I don't know.

I've seen the worst of non-union shops.

What has changed me politically was that my last boss essentially (and illegally) fired me because I ran up too many medical bills despite six years of glowing reviews, because he had to create a position for a friend of a manager's daughter. So what if Joe has 20 years of experience in logistics management as was a veteran!

the guy is i believe 57.....my problem is he is an Asshole and he is not a very well liked person....like i said....people on his route have complained that he is not very friendly and he complains to them about their Mail Boxes and he doesn't "complain" in a nice way,which puts them on the offensive....for instance....he withheld a guys Mail UNTIL he cuts the branch of a bush that had begun to hang over it.....this kinda shit is something 99% of us Carriers don't even sweat....but to this guy its a major problem...... you would have to be here to see the shit this guy bitches about to fully understand what i am saying....

Joe doesn't have to see anything. He's a liberal, and therefore an expert in everything.

Just ask him!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

2008 - failed miserably. It was in all the papers.

They needed a huge set of govenrment bailouts to save it.

It was government interference in capitalism that cause the crash.

Idiot.

Right. All those wreckless loans and junk bonds, and bundling toxic mortgages... that was the goernment's fault... not Wall Street's at all.

YOu see, the problem is, they did it your way. Your boy Bush was in there with deregulation for 8 years... and that was the result.

Bush deregulated for 8 years? Really?
How many fewer regulations were there after he left.....compared to when he took office?
Be specific. Hundreds fewer? Thousands?
Maybe compare the pages of regulations?
Give us something solid to back up your assertion.

 

[koshergrl]

Sure it is. It has been that way historically. The reason the Dems claim otherwise is to divert from the fact that they are truly the party of racism and bigotry.

Why drive buses with delegates around in circles while a vote is going on then? Obviously it was going to fail with those people there.

I mean the mic was in a different place than where the chair was residing... But it sounded like the "no's" won that. I'm willing stipulate that maybe it was different where he was though. I don't have a problem with that.

But with ... What was it? Three bus loads of people not there when the vote happened... Yeah... I'm sorry. Evidence does not support your stance that they are about any minority anymore.

What are you yammering about?

Evidence does of course support my "stance". Because it isn't a stance, it's a fact...Republicans HISTORICALLY have supported minorities because they have HISTORICALLY supported equality.

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

The Republican Party is the party that has traditionally supported the rights of all, opposed to the rights of just a few favored, souls.

Except for blacks, women, hispanics, gays, working people, the disabled....

But, yeah, if you are talking about looking out for rich white guys, the GOP Is all over that.

This is tripe. This is just you, a leftist loon, equating fundamental rights with government-imposed, extra-constitutional privileges that you insist certain groups are arbitrarily entitled to at the expense of their peers. What fundamental rights, precisely, are the classical liberals of the Republican Party—including, apparently, it's black, Hispanic, female, gay and disabled members—trying to withhold? What precisely is it that you seek to impose on those classical liberals who are black, Hispanic, female, gay and disabled that they don't want, didn't ask for; impose on persons who are bloody well fed with punks like you trying to confine them to groups based on benign characteristics rather than treating them as individuals of equal standing with their own political ideology, their own talents and ambitions, their own dreams, lives and property?

You're just another self-anointed leftist prig, a busy-body, with a delusional sense of moral superiority, seeking to empower the government to force others to accept your worldview and behave accordingly.

As for working people, given that the vast majority of the rank-and-file of the Republican Party are working people, you must be alluding to special privileges granted to members of unions in the public sector, those who work for the people and think they're entitled to hang whatever demands they please on the taxpayer.

You're not talking about rights at all; you're talking about subsidies, privileges, affirmative action, regulations, redistribution of wealth, targeted, punitive taxation, sanctions . . . the pitting of American against American.

News flash for you: millions of black, Hispanic, female, gay and disabled persons know your tripe for what it is and oppose your soul-destroying, liberty-destroying statism.

Liar.

 

[daveman]

All the democrats need is for a majority of people to be subsidized on public benefits and they have permanent victory.

Probably...

Too bad the GOP enabled big corporations to outsource and off shore all our industry so that so many people end up on the dole.

Still ignoring all those links I posted showing jobs outsourced by Obama supporters on his watch, huh?

Not at all surprising, really.

 

[squeeze berry]

Sure it is. It has been that way historically. The reason the Dems claim otherwise is to divert from the fact that they are truly the party of racism and bigotry.

the dems sure do point the finger early and often

RE: Chris " tingle down my leg" Matthews

 

[Shelzin]

Sure it is. It has been that way historically. The reason the Dems claim otherwise is to divert from the fact that they are truly the party of racism and bigotry.

Why drive buses with delegates around in circles while a vote is going on then? Obviously it was going to fail with those people there.

I mean the mic was in a different place than where the chair was residing... But it sounded like the "no's" won that. I'm willing stipulate that maybe it was different where he was though. I don't have a problem with that.

But with ... What was it? Three bus loads of people not there when the vote happened... Yeah... I'm sorry. Evidence does not support your stance that they are about any minority anymore.

What are you yammering about?

Evidence does of course support my "stance". Because it isn't a stance, it's a fact...Republicans HISTORICALLY have supported minorities because they have HISTORICALLY supported equality.

Right... History has changed, and more has been added to it. They have done what you just quoted. Should I put more relevance what has happened in the last 20 years? Or the last 150 to determine what the party is about?

I obviously think that recent history is a better indication.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Sure it is. It has been that way historically. The reason the Dems claim otherwise is to divert from the fact that they are truly the party of racism and bigotry.

50 years ago.

Today republicans maintain that tradition of discrimination and exclusion, when conservatives abandoned the democratic party and climbed in bed with the GOP.

 

[koshergrl]

No, not 50 years ago. Now. Today.

Colin Powell wasn't 50 years ago, nor was Condi Rice.

 

[koshergrl]

I continue to expect more creativity from the left, but really, when it comes down to it, creativity isn't their schtick.

Their schtick is just to lie. Not even creatively.

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

All the democrats need is for a majority of people to be subsidized on public benefits and they have permanent victory.

Probably...

Too bad the GOP enabled big corporations to outsource and off shore all our industry so that so many people end up on the dole.

No. More evidence of lefty's economic ignorance. . . .

It is big government, corporate taxation in America, among the highest rates in the world, and stupid, costly, unnecessary regulations that drive industries that would rather stay out of the country. The base of the Republican Party is trying to reduce or eliminate them. The base of the Democratic Party wants to increase them and craft legislation to force industries to stay . . . as if it could. Naturally, this would merely further shrink our industrial base, destroy companies and reduce the number of start ups. Republicans are trying to reduce such regulation and taxation, but are incessantly blocked from doing so by Democrats. Hence, Republicans are demonized for supposedly irresponsible deregulation and fattening the coffers of the rich, but it's the working man who gets screwed in the end by Lefty.

It's the same dynamic that virtually destroyed the yacht-building industry in the northeast when lefty imposed punitive sales taxes. Result: the rich simply stopped buying American, the government got no increased revenues, the American companies went under and the working men and women in the industry lost their jobs.

Lefty, you're an idiot, a dupe, a brainwashed ninny. Of course, the elites among you know precisely what they're doing and why. They want to undermine America's economic strength as this drives more Americans toward governmental dependency.

Lefty needs to be called on his tripe every time, bitched slapped, as it were, kicked in the ass. But that is merely the preliminary action. Eventually, liberty-loving Americans will have to show him the working end of a loaded gun, for make no mistake about it, the American leftist is the same murderous Jacobinian of the French revolution, the same barbaric, pitch-fork wielding Bolshevik of the Russian revolution. Hell, he's the same lunatic of the Islamic fascism without the religious trappings.

Some will perceive this to be an exaggeration, but I assure it is not. History repeats itself over and over and over. . . .

 

[Shelzin]

No, not 50 years ago. Now. Today.

Colin Powell wasn't 50 years ago, nor was Condi Rice.

*shrugs*

If you don't address what you quote there isn't much point in continuing the conversation.

 

[koshergrl]

I have addressed what I quoted. You idiotically chose to pretend my examples were 50 years old.

Patently dishonest.

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

Who says capitalism has failed?

Oh, yeah -- Communism supporters.

You're dismissed, Pinky.

2008 - failed miserably. It was in all the papers.

They needed a huge set of govenrment bailouts to save it.

No. A number of huge government bailouts were provided that shouldn't have been provided. And it was a combination of governmentally imposed programs and policies interfering with the free market that caused the problem in the first place. And the capitalist system in America did not need them to save it; they merely became an excuse to pile on more idiotic government regulation on top of regulation that would have prevented the collapse in the first place had the free market not been driven to disregard the former by mostly leftist politicians. Dick weed. But in any event, these bailouts are nothing compared to the bailouts given to countries of planned economies by capitalist countries over the decades. It's not even close. Again, lefty, you lie and ignore the real truths of history.

 

[Shelzin]

I have addressed what I quoted. You idiotically chose to pretend my examples were 50 years old.

Patently dishonest.

Why drive buses with delegates around in circles while a vote is going on then? Obviously it was going to fail with those people there.

I mean the mic was in a different place than where the chair was residing... But it sounded like the "no's" won that. I'm willing stipulate that maybe it was different where he was though. I don't have a problem with that.

But with ... What was it? Three bus loads of people not there when the vote happened... Yeah... I'm sorry. Evidence does not support your stance that they are about any minority anymore.

That has nothing to do with black people, but it is a minority. Do you believe minority MUST always be racial?

 

[koshergrl]

You don't make enough sense to carry on a convo.