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I've had too much experience with government to assume any efficiency or forethought. The point is liberals are trying to broadbrush the GOP and scare people because spending less of our money is the unpardonable sin.Naw, shit rolls downhill. Snyder's hatchet man made the decision to change Flint's water sources without ordering a risk assessment or creating one. Snyder should have insisted on one being done BEFORE messing with people's drinking water. That is a stone that keeps Snyder's shit from rolling downhill.How is that a Republican party issue? Just because you feces mongers try to twist it that way doesn't make it a fact. The truth is it's being dealt with and any guilty people will pay the price, regardless of party affiliation.Why would they? They're republicans. They don't actually give a shit when another republican fucks up.
Faint GOP interest in Flint’s pain is a mistake, party members say
Yeah I read it but the point is the EPA sat on this, there is plenty of blame to toss around and democrats have to accept their share of it
It was more than just the switch. The river water needed to be treated to make it less corrosive. It wasn't treated properly which led to lead from the pipes getting into the water.It is hard to believe that every post so far in this thread is just plain ignoring the fact that the decision to switch the water source was one made by Governor Snyder's Emergency manager. That unilateral decision by the EM puts the blame for any thing related to that decision squarely on HIS shoulders and indirectly on Snyder's shoulders. When Obama's underlings mess up, you are quick to point fingers at Obama, not the people who screwed up. But because Snyder is one of YOU...one of the "good ol" republican boys," he gets a pass. Well, not on MY watch.Welcome to the real world. If you don't pay, you don't get. Pay the electric bill or sit in the dark.Therefore they deserved lead water. We got it...
No, therefore they BOUGHT (cheaper) lead water. Is that the GOP's fault? Why are Democrats never held accountable for their actions? Are they children who have to rely on adults to clean up their messes?
Deserved is an inappropriate word. If you get on a bus and refuse to pay the fare you will be put off the bus. Do you deserve being stranded where you don't want to be? Isn't travel a human right?Therefore they deserved lead water. We got it...
The blame goes to the judge that ruled that the city could not shut off the water for non payment. That caused the majority to stop paying leaving only a small number of people supporting water distribution for the entire city. You know this isn't going to end well. Deserved might be wrong. Expected is better.
Yes yes yes, we heard all the stories, to sum it up; they got poisoned like rats, because they couldn't afford clean water.
Welcome to the jungle...
This is the end result of running out of other people's money.
1.The city council nor the mayor had a say in making the switch. The Em should have made a risk assessment BEFORE making the decision to use water known to be polluted. Here is an excerpt from MLIVE ..(real time observers at the scene.}
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City officials did not drive the decision to take water from the Flint River. There was never such a vote by the city council, which really didn't have the power to make such a decision anyway, because the city was under the control of a state-appointed emergency manager.
2. There was no 7-1 vote by the council to use Flint River water. SO where did THAT lie come from? Here is what the MLIVE crew says:
Snyder said that Detroit, after being informed of the Flint council vote, sent a "letter of termination" of water service. Detroit sent a letter giving Flint one year on its existing contract, but that didn't mean Flint couldn't get water from Detroit after that date. In fact, there was a flurry of negotiations between Detroit and Flint to sign a new contract that would carry Flint through until it could connect to the under-construction pipeline. That new contract was going to cost Flint more money.
This distinction is important to note because merely stating that Flint received a "letter of termination" makes it sound as if a thirsty Flint had no choice but to stick a straw in the Flint River. Flint could have elected to sign a new contract with the the Detroit water system (in fact, Flint reconnected to Detroit water after the situation in the city became a full-fledged, hair-on-fire crisis). Flint disconnected from Detroit because it was cheaper to take water from the Flint River until the new pipeline was completed. Here's a letter from then-emergency manager Darnell Earley saying Flint was choosing to use Flint water instead of Detroit water.
Some of you die hard republicans won't read the damning synopsis because it is too painful for you to know that Michigan's un official "conservative coalition headed by republican gov Snyder failed the people of Flint.
When Synder told us what Flint did or did not do he attempted to shift blame from the Flint ruled by his EM to the Flint represented by politically neutered elected officials. Substitute the word "Flint" for "EM "in Snyder's comments and the picture becomes crystal clear.[/FONT]
Michigan Truth Squad: Who approved switch to Flint River? State's answers draw fouls
That's why the EPA official resigned.
Yeah I read it but the point is the EPA sat on this, there is plenty of blame to toss around and democrats have to accept their share of it
This seems simple enough for any elected official to get under control right away?
Water testers need to provide Quality reports (hourly, daily, monthly etc.) step 1. was this done?
Results need approval. Who approved the water quality? Who monitors the monitors (EPA, state)? step 2
if they knowingly sent out bad water, they must do time. no pensions. EPA seems useless, close it. Time to send a message. We out of money. do your job or do your time. Enough parties and pensions.
======Agreed. They can't see that they are being duped and are promoting division, by accepting and promoting the divisive propaganda of the elite left. How they can still get duped after so many lies have been exposed, is nothing short of miraculous.Why must the elite left politicize everything?
Answer...to dupe their foolish believers and keep America divided. Seems to work EVERY time.
yep and then they have their sheep/tools to pass it around. but they wail it's the Republicans tearing the country apart. it's just sad to see people led around by the nose
Why must the elite left politicize everything?
Answer...to dupe their foolish believers and keep America divided. Seems to work EVERY time.
yep and then they have their sheep/tools to pass it around. but they wail it's the Republicans tearing the country apart. it's just sad to see people led around by the nose
Snyder is the GOVERNOR! The buck stops with HIM alone. He knew the river water was toxic and the EM surely must have told Snyder beforehand that he intended to switch Flint to river water to reduce costs. There WAS NO city council VOTE TO USE THE FLINT RIVER AS A SOURCE. OF WATER..That is bogus!He wasn't in it by himself. although they had to approve the decisions by the Mayor and city council before proceeding..............Who voted to go forward with it.How is that a Republican party issue? Just because you feces mongers try to twist it that way doesn't make it a fact. The truth is it's being dealt with and any guilty people will pay the price, regardless of party affiliation.Why would they? They're republicans. They don't actually give a shit when another republican fucks up.
Faint GOP interest in Flint’s pain is a mistake, party members say
Naw, shit rolls downhill. Snyder's hatchet man made the decision to change Flint's water sources without ordering a risk assessment or creating one. Snyder should have insisted on one being done BEFORE messing with people's drinking water. That is a stone that keeps Snyder's shit from rolling downhill.
I'm sure that the NEW WATER AUTHORITY ASSURED THEM THAT THE NEW TREATMENT PLANT would properly TREAT THE WATER......................
Let me state this a little more BLUNTLY..............we CAN MAKE PURE WATER OUT OF PISS.......................It is all in the chemicals used to treat the incoming water. This was a BRAND NEW TREATMENT FACILITY..............Saying they could purify the water and send it down the line..........................that water treatment facility DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE OLD PIPES.................which is the main MALFUNCTION.
Now after they found it was screwing up the water by bleeding the pipes..........WHO knew what and WHEN????? WHO COVERED IT UP................I'm sure there is a long list of guilty parties on that one.
Oh sorry; It is just poor people getting poisoned "by democrats", nothing to see, move along...
I've had too much experience with government to assume any efficiency or forethought. The point is liberals are trying to broadbrush the GOP and scare people because spending less of our money is the unpardonable sin.Naw, shit rolls downhill. Snyder's hatchet man made the decision to change Flint's water sources without ordering a risk assessment or creating one. Snyder should have insisted on one being done BEFORE messing with people's drinking water. That is a stone that keeps Snyder's shit from rolling downhill.How is that a Republican party issue? Just because you feces mongers try to twist it that way doesn't make it a fact. The truth is it's being dealt with and any guilty people will pay the price, regardless of party affiliation.Why would they? They're republicans. They don't actually give a shit when another republican fucks up.
Faint GOP interest in Flint’s pain is a mistake, party members say
It's a BRAND NEW WATER TREATMENT PLANT...................the chemicals added didn't correct the ch- problem which caused the pipes to BLEED MORE.........Yeah they were already bleeding but at a lower rate with Detroit Water........but the water was maintaining less than 15 ppm out of that water...........Snyder is the GOVERNOR! The buck stops with HIM alone. He knew the river water was toxic and the EM surely must have told Snyder beforehand that he intended to switch Flint to river water to reduce costs. There WAS NO city council VOTE TO USE THE FLINT RIVER AS A SOURCE. OF WATER..That is bogus!He wasn't in it by himself. although they had to approve the decisions by the Mayor and city council before proceeding..............Who voted to go forward with it.How is that a Republican party issue? Just because you feces mongers try to twist it that way doesn't make it a fact. The truth is it's being dealt with and any guilty people will pay the price, regardless of party affiliation.Why would they? They're republicans. They don't actually give a shit when another republican fucks up.
Faint GOP interest in Flint’s pain is a mistake, party members say
Naw, shit rolls downhill. Snyder's hatchet man made the decision to change Flint's water sources without ordering a risk assessment or creating one. Snyder should have insisted on one being done BEFORE messing with people's drinking water. That is a stone that keeps Snyder's shit from rolling downhill.
I'm sure that the NEW WATER AUTHORITY ASSURED THEM THAT THE NEW TREATMENT PLANT would properly TREAT THE WATER......................
Let me state this a little more BLUNTLY..............we CAN MAKE PURE WATER OUT OF PISS.......................It is all in the chemicals used to treat the incoming water. This was a BRAND NEW TREATMENT FACILITY..............Saying they could purify the water and send it down the line..........................that water treatment facility DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE OLD PIPES.................which is the main MALFUNCTION.
Now after they found it was screwing up the water by bleeding the pipes..........WHO knew what and WHEN????? WHO COVERED IT UP................I'm sure there is a long list of guilty parties on that one.
SNYDER or his EM should have ordered a risk assessment BEFORE the switch took place. If they did, and the EPA did the assessment..where is the documentation...I want to see..or I want to see an accounting for the lack thereof!
In either case,something smells here and it isn't just the water from the Flint River.
Snyder is by no means innocent. But the fault isn't his alone.
Proving you didn't know...............and don't know.....................iIf we ever discover WHEN he first knew of the lead leeching, you may change your mind.Snyder is by no means innocent. But the fault isn't his alone.
The decision to save money with a NEW LINE from LAKE Huron would have saved the city 18 Million or so over a decade. That was not the wrong decision.I've had too much experience with government to assume any efficiency or forethought. The point is liberals are trying to broadbrush the GOP and scare people because spending less of our money is the unpardonable sin.Naw, shit rolls downhill. Snyder's hatchet man made the decision to change Flint's water sources without ordering a risk assessment or creating one. Snyder should have insisted on one being done BEFORE messing with people's drinking water. That is a stone that keeps Snyder's shit from rolling downhill.How is that a Republican party issue? Just because you feces mongers try to twist it that way doesn't make it a fact. The truth is it's being dealt with and any guilty people will pay the price, regardless of party affiliation.Why would they? They're republicans. They don't actually give a shit when another republican fucks up.
Faint GOP interest in Flint’s pain is a mistake, party members say
So spending money to keep babies from drinking lead laced water is no worth spending money on? OK, I see... You must be a demon because NO human could ever be that cold... ice weasel, indeed....
If Republicans are to blame as you think and should be forced to drink water from the Flint River does that mean all Liberals should be forced to drink from the Colorado River the EPA poisoned ? It happend under the Obama administration.Yes. Clearly. All republicans should run their swords because of the Flint water debacle.
I agree, ALL Republicans should be forced to drink water straight from the Flint river.
Give em a little taste of that good ole river water.
Dont you agree?
