The Irony of Whites Talking About Fatherless Black Families...

[Blues Man]

And you are ignoring the fact that if a Black man was arrested and tried for some crime and a White person was not arrested for that very same crime that your assumption that Blacks commit more crimes is flawed.

Hello, Blues Man.

With all due respect, please help educate me.

Can you provide a reliable study indicating it's a FACT police are arresting African Americans citizens for committing offenses or crimes...

...and they are NOT arresting Euro American citizens for committing the same offenses or crimes.

Peace.

I posted a link to the study by the US Sentencing Commission already.

and how about this for a little proof

Whites and Blacks use marijuana at about the same rates yet there are almost 4 times more blacks arrested for marijuana charges than whites.

Report: The War on Marijuana in Black and White | American Civil Liberties Union

www.aclu.org

so it seems that the police do arrest more Blacks than Whites for crimes involving marijuana. Is it too much of a stretch to think that cops arrest more blacks than whites for other crimes as well?

Hello, Blues Man.

The main reason for the disparity, possibly, is attitude.

In my experience, most citizens of Euro descent defer to police authority, while a significant population of African American citizens tend to have poor attitudes towards police, causing cops to make an arrest instead of using discretion.

In other words, most white folks keep their mouth shut and don't antagonize cops or act stupid when detained for committing minor violations, such as possessing small amounts of marijuana or burning marijuana in public.

My question is, how many marijuana arrests resulted with a suspect being handcuffed and processed through the system, as opposed to being issued a criminal court citation returnable at a future date, before being freed to resume their business?

Blues Man, besides possessing marijuana, what other offenses or crimes are African-American citizens arrested for that Euro citizens are not arrested for?

Peace.

There is no evidence that attitude is responsible for harsher prison terms.

If that is the case then we need concrete sentencing guidelines so that these arbitrary and subjective beliefs and attitudes do not sully our justice system.

And I really am not going to research every single crime and compare Black and White arrest frequency but if you want to be my guest.

The reality is that increased police presence in poorer minority neighborhoods results in minorities having more interactions than people in affluent predominantly white neighborhoods. The increased number of interactions result in more arrests.

Black Crime Rates: What Happens When Numbers Aren't Neutral

There is a common conservative narrative that the disproportionate incarceration of black people is not the result of systemic racism, but rather of shortcomings within the black community.This "fact" is used to justify a belief that a "culture of violence" is to blame for problems faced by...

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[Blues Man]

And you are ignoring the fact that if a Black man was arrested and tried for some crime and a White person was not arrested for that very same crime that your assumption that Blacks commit more crimes is flawed.

Hello, Blues Man.

With all due respect, please help educate me.

Can you provide a reliable study indicating it's a FACT police are arresting African Americans citizens for committing offenses or crimes...

...and they are NOT arresting Euro American citizens for committing the same offenses or crimes.

Peace.

I posted a link to the study by the US Sentencing Commission already.

and how about this for a little proof

Whites and Blacks use marijuana at about the same rates yet there are almost 4 times more blacks arrested for marijuana charges than whites.

Report: The War on Marijuana in Black and White | American Civil Liberties Union

www.aclu.org

so it seems that the police do arrest more Blacks than Whites for crimes involving marijuana. Is it too much of a stretch to think that cops arrest more blacks than whites for other crimes as well?

As you know, the ACLU is a far-left organization. As such, they have no credibility.

Yes, was a disparity in sentencing guidelines but, as you know, President Trump worked hard to resolve those issues.

The ACLU will protect a republican's civil rights as well as a democrat's

It's funny that you think civil rights is a far left issue.

 

[Bobob]

If there is no competition, prices would rise dramatically.

Paying Americans a high wage instead of using chinese slave labor would cause prices to rise

and thats a good thing

Not a good thing because U.S manufacturing would move out as sales of its products are reduced due to their lack of competitiveness.

 

[Markle]

In my experience, most citizens of Euro descent defer to police authority, while a significant population of African American citizens tend to have poor attitudes towards police, causing cops to make an arrest instead of using discretion.

I believe that we'll agree that they have poor attitudes because, for decades, these fine folks have TAUGHT them that they are entitled to that attitude: Failed former President Barack Hussein Obama, former First Lady Michelle Obama, Eric Holder, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Rev. Al Sharpton, Minister Louis Farrakhan, Father Pflager, Rev. Jesse Jackson, Sr., Rev. Jesse Jackson, Jr., King Samir Shabazz, Van Jones, Charlie Rangel, Barbara Boxer, Maxine Waters, Al Green, Sheila Jackson Lee, Andre Carson, Shirley Sherrod, Keith Ellison, and the list goes on!

NONE of those individuals have taught personal responsibility, setting goals, or overcoming obstacles.

 

[Markle]

No he didn't.

 

[Markle]

And you are ignoring the fact that if a Black man was arrested and tried for some crime and a White person was not arrested for that very same crime that your assumption that Blacks commit more crimes is flawed.

Hello, Blues Man.

With all due respect, please help educate me.

Can you provide a reliable study indicating it's a FACT police are arresting African Americans citizens for committing offenses or crimes...

...and they are NOT arresting Euro American citizens for committing the same offenses or crimes.

Peace.

I posted a link to the study by the US Sentencing Commission already.

and how about this for a little proof

Whites and Blacks use marijuana at about the same rates yet there are almost 4 times more blacks arrested for marijuana charges than whites.

Report: The War on Marijuana in Black and White | American Civil Liberties Union

www.aclu.org

so it seems that the police do arrest more Blacks than Whites for crimes involving marijuana. Is it too much of a stretch to think that cops arrest more blacks than whites for other crimes as well?

As you know, the ACLU is a far-left organization. As such, they have no credibility.

Yes, was a disparity in sentencing guidelines but, as you know, President Trump worked hard to resolve those issues.

The ACLU will protect a republican's civil rights as well as a democrat's

It's funny that you think civil rights is a far left issue.

That's because the far-left always uses it for an excuse.

 

[AveryJarhman]

The reality is that increased police presence in poorer minority neighborhoods results in minorities having more interactions than people in affluent predominantly white neighborhoods. The increased number of interactions result in more arrests.

While you somewhat accurately describe one reality, there are many other realities affecting impoverished families, people and communities.

The most shocking and heartbreaking reality, in my opinion, is girls and women irresponsibly introducing children to a traumatic potential life scarring childhood upbringing fraught with struggles, pain, hardships, poverty, uncertainty, depression, sadness, intra racial discrimination, hate, Community fear Community violence Community mayhem and Community MADNESS.

https://www.firststar.org/black-children-have-highest-abuse-rates

Rise in Suicide by Black Children Surprises Researchers (Published 2015)

The rate nearly doubled from 1993 to 2012, surpassing the rate for white children. It was the first time a national study found a higher suicide rate for blacks than for whites of any age group.

www.nytimes.com

Blues Man, I could be wrong, though I believe the overwhelming majority of "predominantly white" neighborhoods are not affluent.

Peace, brother.

 

[AveryJarhman]

In my experience, most citizens of Euro descent defer to police authority, while a significant population of African American citizens tend to have poor attitudes towards police, causing cops to make an arrest instead of using discretion.

I believe that we'll agree that they have poor attitudes because, for decades, these fine folks have TAUGHT them that they are entitled to that attitude: Failed former President Barack Hussein Obama, former First Lady Michelle Obama, Eric Holder, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Rev. Al Sharpton, Minister Louis Farrakhan, Father Pflager, Rev. Jesse Jackson, Sr., Rev. Jesse Jackson, Jr., King Samir Shabazz, Van Jones, Charlie Rangel, Barbara Boxer, Maxine Waters, Al Green, Sheila Jackson Lee, Andre Carson, Shirley Sherrod, Keith Ellison, and the list goes on!

NONE of those individuals have taught personal responsibility, setting goals, or overcoming obstacles.

Hello, Markle. This man claims there are millions more haters embracing the same anti white, anti-american values as the Problack practicing citizens appearing on your short list.

"Tariq Nasheed vs Jared Taylor - NOW Y'ALL KNOW" by Donovan Worland

Peace.

 

[Mac-7]

Not a good thing because U.S manufacturing would move out as sales of its products are reduced due to their lack of competitiveness.

Thats what tariffs are for.

to level the playing field

 

[beagle9]

The great negotiator should take a lesson from Merkle.

Merkle would not know the difference between an Allen wrench and a screwdriver

the germans are good at engineering because they just are

its something in the Teutonic DNA I suppose

Since the Industrial Revolution began german engineering has been better than American

where we excelled was in applying good engineering on a large scal at reasonable prices

and now china has even taken that away from us

China has not taken away "reasonable prices" from us. When a pair of American made jeans cost $90 dollars, of course we will buy Chinese or Mexican, etc.
Our prices will continue to rise due to trump's failed, bullying policies as European countries make trade deals with China. The great negotiator.
Merkle doesn't have to know those differences because she has people in her sphere who know what she doesn't know. Trump has people in his sphere who voted for him and tell him what he wants to hear rather than what he needs to hear.

You shouldn't have the option of using a communist nation to slave their citizen's in order to make life cheaper for you here. If you think otherwise, then you are no better than those who reeped the benefits of slavery in the 1800s.

Hey, I need a pair of jeans. You got $90 for me? American manufacturing has to be competitive, and they are not. That is the free market, yes? This is where it falls short. Nobody that I know is going to spend $90 on a pair of jeans. The free world has to do something about China, not just trump who has failed miserably with his
saber-rattling tactics across the board.

If you would take care of your (should be American made jeans), then you wouldn't have to buy 7 pairs of cheap made pairs coming out of China from your American scalper business man, otherwise who got those jeans for probably 50 cents a pair wholesale due to Chinese communist cheap labor, but then sold them to you for $25.00 to $30.00 dollars a pair. Why do you think that our landfills are busting at the seams ? It's because we've created a throw away society and culture when buying things. It's gotten so bad that choice in getting things that last has become almost impossible to find, but you can sure find plenty of the cheap stuff.

 

[pknopp]

The great negotiator should take a lesson from Merkle.

Merkle would not know the difference between an Allen wrench and a screwdriver

the germans are good at engineering because they just are

its something in the Teutonic DNA I suppose

Since the Industrial Revolution began german engineering has been better than American

where we excelled was in applying good engineering on a large scal at reasonable prices

and now china has even taken that away from us

China has not taken away "reasonable prices" from us. When a pair of American made jeans cost $90 dollars, of course we will buy Chinese or Mexican, etc.
Our prices will continue to rise due to trump's failed, bullying policies as European countries make trade deals with China. The great negotiator.
Merkle doesn't have to know those differences because she has people in her sphere who know what she doesn't know. Trump has people in his sphere who voted for him and tell him what he wants to hear rather than what he needs to hear.

You shouldn't have the option of using a communist nation to slave their citizen's in order to make life cheaper for you here. If you think otherwise, then you are no better than those who reeped the benefits of slavery in the 1800s.

Hey, I need a pair of jeans. You got $90 for me? American manufacturing has to be competitive, and they are not. That is the free market, yes? This is where it falls short. Nobody that I know is going to spend $90 on a pair of jeans. The free world has to do something about China, not just trump who has failed miserably with his
saber-rattling tactics across the board.

If you would take care of your (should be American made jeans), then you wouldn't have to buy 7 pairs of cheap made pairs coming out of China from your American scalper business man, otherwise who got those jeans for probably 50 cents a pair wholesale due to Chinese communist cheap labor, but then sold them to you for $25.00 to $30.00 dollars a pair. Why do you think that our landfills are busting at the seams ? It's because we've created a throw away society and culture when buying things. It's gotten so bad that choice in getting things that last has become almost impossible to find, but you can sure find plenty of the cheap stuff.

Created by American companies.

 

[beagle9]

The great negotiator should take a lesson from Merkle.

Merkle would not know the difference between an Allen wrench and a screwdriver

the germans are good at engineering because they just are

its something in the Teutonic DNA I suppose

Since the Industrial Revolution began german engineering has been better than American

where we excelled was in applying good engineering on a large scal at reasonable prices

and now china has even taken that away from us

China has not taken away "reasonable prices" from us. When a pair of American made jeans cost $90 dollars, of course we will buy Chinese or Mexican, etc.
Our prices will continue to rise due to trump's failed, bullying policies as European countries make trade deals with China. The great negotiator.
Merkle doesn't have to know those differences because she has people in her sphere who know what she doesn't know. Trump has people in his sphere who voted for him and tell him what he wants to hear rather than what he needs to hear.

You shouldn't have the option of using a communist nation to slave their citizen's in order to make life cheaper for you here. If you think otherwise, then you are no better than those who reeped the benefits of slavery in the 1800s.

Hey, I need a pair of jeans. You got $90 for me? American manufacturing has to be competitive, and they are not. That is the free market, yes? This is where it falls short. Nobody that I know is going to spend $90 on a pair of jeans. The free world has to do something about China, not just trump who has failed miserably with his
saber-rattling tactics across the board.

If you would take care of your (should be American made jeans), then you wouldn't have to buy 7 pairs of cheap made pairs coming out of China from your American scalper business man, otherwise who got those jeans for probably 50 cents a pair wholesale due to Chinese communist cheap labor, but then sold them to you for $25.00 to $30.00 dollars a pair. Why do you think that our landfills are busting at the seams ? It's because we've created a throw away society and culture when buying things. It's gotten so bad that choice in getting things that last has become almost impossible to find, but you can sure find plenty of the cheap stuff.

Created by American companies.

What was created by American companies ? Oh yes the designs, patton's and trademarked stuff you mean that China stole over the years ? Ever heard of the theft of intectual property ?? China's been the worst at it.

 

[IM2]

I am introducing another variable into the discussion.

We introduced the variable of fatherless children and the pressure broken homes have on young boys

It applies to all races but the numbers of single mothers are greater among blacks

BS.

 

[AMart]

And you are ignoring the fact that if a Black man was arrested and tried for some crime and a White person was not arrested for that very same crime that your assumption that Blacks commit more crimes is flawed.

Hello, Blues Man.

With all due respect, please help educate me.

Can you provide a reliable study indicating it's a FACT police are arresting African Americans citizens for committing offenses or crimes...

...and they are NOT arresting Euro American citizens for committing the same offenses or crimes.

Peace.

I posted a link to the study by the US Sentencing Commission already.

and how about this for a little proof

Whites and Blacks use marijuana at about the same rates yet there are almost 4 times more blacks arrested for marijuana charges than whites.

Report: The War on Marijuana in Black and White | American Civil Liberties Union

www.aclu.org

so it seems that the police do arrest more Blacks than Whites for crimes involving marijuana. Is it too much of a stretch to think that cops arrest more blacks than whites for other crimes as well?

As you know, the ACLU is a far-left organization. As such, they have no credibility.

Yes, was a disparity in sentencing guidelines but, as you know, President Trump worked hard to resolve those issues.

The ACLU was founded by Commies.

 

[Mac-7]

BS

You are in denial

 

[Bobob]

Not a good thing because U.S manufacturing would move out as sales of its products are reduced due to their lack of competitiveness.

Thats what tariffs are for.

to level the playing field

That is the theory, but they don't work in real life, haven't worked in the past, and
are not working now, as companies are still moving. Since parts for American cars are produced abroad, the prices for cars made here rise due to the tariffs.
As the playing field becomes level, American manufacturers will raise prices to offset their rising cost of business as always, and the cycle begins all over again.

 

[MarcATL]

The descendants of the same people who would break up black families by selling them are today the loudest talking people trying to diss the black community about single parent families.

When people start talking about race, there are just some simple realities that cannot be denied. If you are white and don't like how you are portrayed, start thinking about how unpleasant it really is for us who are not white to be portrayed as weak inferior people who got conquered by a supposedly superior race and culture. It is not a pleasant subject. For this to end we all must face the unpleasantness.

The doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem comes from European civil law. It means; “That which is brought forth follows the belly.” This principle determined the legal status of children born by slave women in the America as well as other English or European colonies In colonial law, the partus doctrine justified enslavement, the indigenous people of the Americas and of the Africans imported to various European colonies personal property of those who imported them.

During the time American was a colony, this doctrine established de facto and de jure slavery for all children born to female slaves. Partus sequitur ventrem exempted the father from his obligations to children he fathered by slaves thereby creating the ability for slaveowners to have their way with enslaved women. Under this doctrine the biological father had no paternal responsibility to any child born to a slave woman. Because of this the slaver was provided the right to profit from exploiting the labor of children born to slaves. It gave the slaver the ability to sell children by taking them away from their biological parents. Partus sequitur ventrem was the doctrine that created the first family separation policy in what is now America.

Despite the claims of Africans selling each other, the doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem does not appear to be a part of the system of African slavery.

Partus Sequitur Ventrem — The Rule That Perpetrated Slavery And Legalized Rape

This was the legal doctrine that made any child of an American female slave a slave as well. It meant any white fathers had no financial responsibility for their progeny. They were free to rape their slaves at will as there were no laws against that either. With no concern for any children that might come from the forced union. In fact, there was a market for mulatto and octaroon children who would be purchased to work as domestics. Some owners (Thomas Jefferson) used their half-white slaves as their concubines, finding them more attractive the closer they were to white. Sally Hemings was Jefferson’s wife’s half-sister, the product of her father raping a slave. Then again the master might sell their offspring to keep the peace with their wives who might be annoyed at little slave children running around who favor their husbands.

Not talked about in proper society were the children of free white women and black slaves. White women who weren’t sure what color the child might be could get a legal abortion those days. “Cottonwood” was a remedy known to slaves who sometimes refused to have children after being raped or as often as the masters would like. Some women would be forced to have over a dozen children if they survived as death during childbirth was relatively common. The rare slave would be offered their freedom if they produced enough children. Sometimes the dark child of a white woman was abandoned or given away. Usually just sold off although technically they were legally free.

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Partus sequitur ventrem legal definition of Partus sequitur ventrem (thefreedictionary.com)

Powerful!

 

[AveryJarhman]

"A Single Mother Cannot Raise A Boy To Be A Man"



EndHate2021

 

[Mac-7]

That is the theory, but they don't work in real life, haven't worked in the past, and
are not working now, as companies are still moving. Since parts for American cars are produced abroad, the prices for cars made here rise due to the tariffs.

Sure

tariffs raise prices of everything imported

thats how American workers can win their jobs back

 

[Bobob]

That is the theory, but they don't work in real life, haven't worked in the past, and
are not working now, as companies are still moving. Since parts for American cars are produced abroad, the prices for cars made here rise due to the tariffs.

Sure

tariffs raise prices of everything imported

thats how American workers can win their jobs back

Wrong, lambchop. American workers will not win their jobs back, as history has indicated. You will simply pay more.