The "N-word" and other Euphemisms

[pismoe]

I don't care one way or the other except to say that NO WORDS or Expression should be off limits to say .

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[JoeMoma]

I don't care one way or the other except to say that NO WORDS or Expression should be off limits to say .

A person's life can be ruined by saying the n-word.

 

[protectionist]

Interesting how nobody is concerned that three quarters of the players are black, despite blacks being only 13% of the population. Maybe this is the real issue that people in that Red Robin restaurant (and anywhere else) should be hollering about.

Sure looks like racial discrimination against whites.

 

[Conservative65]

I was watching the Superbowl at Red Robin Sunday night, and a black man who was a Rams fan was getting angry at one Rams player in particular (who was black), who missed three chances to catch the ball in long passes thrown by the quarterback.

"That ****** can't catch!"

Why is that a black man can yell this word in a public place in front of dozens of witnesses, but a white man could not?

It is very hypocritical for blacks to believe they can use that word, when whites who use that word are condemned and will have their careers and lives ruined for the rest of their lives.

When people say blacks using the term isn't racist, they're saying that who says something is what determines whether or not it's racist rather than what is said.

 

[Blackrook]

I would consider a white man who yelled at Tom Brady, "Look at that cracker, what a great quarterback!!!" to be just as uncouth as a black man yelling "******" at black football players.

 

[Asclepias]

I was watching the Superbowl at Red Robin Sunday night, and a black man who was a Rams fan was getting angry at one Rams player in particular (who was black), who missed three chances to catch the ball in long passes thrown by the quarterback.

"That ****** can't catch!"

Why is that a black man can yell this word in a public place in front of dozens of witnesses, but a white man could not?

It is very hypocritical for blacks to believe they can use that word, when whites who use that word are condemned and will have their careers and lives ruined for the rest of their lives.

Another white boy whine thread about not being able to say something you would get your ass kicked over anyway. Stop whining. I dont run around calling white boys honky just because they call each other that.

 

[protectionist]

Another white boy whine thread about not being able to say something you would get your ass kicked over anyway. Stop whining. I dont run around calling white boys honky just because they call each other that.

I have NEVER heard a white person call another white person a "honky" (whatever that is supposed to mean)

A lot of goofy thoughts fly around in this forum.

 

[Marion Morrison]

I'm from the South and I say what I want when I want. Anybody gives me that offended shit, they can fuck off. Real (banned word here-starts with "N", sounds like "chiggas") don't care as long as your not being insulting. Context is everything.

There's a big difference between say..

"You see that game? Them Magic (banned word here-starts with "N", sounds like "chiggas") got their ass handed to them" and

Oh, you're just a greasy, ashy-mouf, coal-black stank (banned word here-starts with "N", sounds like "chigga").

 

[JoeB131]

I was watching the Superbowl at Red Robin Sunday night, and a black man who was a Rams fan was getting angry at one Rams player in particular (who was black), who missed three chances to catch the ball in long passes thrown by the quarterback.

"That ****** can't catch!"

Why is that a black man can yell this word in a public place in front of dozens of witnesses, but a white man could not?

It is very hypocritical for blacks to believe they can use that word, when whites who use that word are condemned and will have their careers and lives ruined for the rest of their lives.

Obviously, you don't understand the concept of Context.

 

[MisterBeale]

Another white boy whine thread about not being able to say something you would get your ass kicked over anyway. Stop whining. I dont run around calling white boys honky just because they call each other that.

I have NEVER heard a white person call another white person a "honky" (whatever that is supposed to mean)

A lot of goofy thoughts fly around in this forum.

shhaa'ap uncle cracker. . . .

 

[Vastator]

I was watching the Superbowl at Red Robin Sunday night, and a black man who was a Rams fan was getting angry at one Rams player in particular (who was black), who missed three chances to catch the ball in long passes thrown by the quarterback.

"That ****** can't catch!"

Why is that a black man can yell this word in a public place in front of dozens of witnesses, but a white man could not?

It is very hypocritical for blacks to believe they can use that word, when whites who use that word are condemned and will have their careers and lives ruined for the rest of their lives.

So you want permission to be a racist? Is that it?

If a white boy can't catch a ball, feel free to yell, "That cracker can't catch!" I'm sure all the blacks and Hispanics will appreciate you.

If Blacks get offended when Whites use the N-word, then they should not use the N-word around Whites. Also, Blacks should be just as unforgiving of other Blacks that us the N-word as they are of Whites that use the N-Word. It is really that simple.

Your talking about principled behavior. And that simply isn’t a value held dear by most Negros. Or Democrats for that matter.

 

[JoeB131]

I have NEVER heard a white person call another white person a "honky" (whatever that is supposed to mean)

A lot of goofy thoughts fly around in this forum.

Has anyone called anyone a Honkey since the 1970's?

 

[IM2]

I was watching the Superbowl at Red Robin Sunday night, and a black man who was a Rams fan was getting angry at one Rams player in particular (who was black), who missed three chances to catch the ball in long passes thrown by the quarterback.

"That ****** can't catch!"

Why is that a black man can yell this word in a public place in front of dozens of witnesses, but a white man could not?

It is very hypocritical for blacks to believe they can use that word, when whites who use that word are condemned and will have their careers and lives ruined for the rest of their lives.

"What white people have to do is try and find out in their own hearts why it was necessary to have a ‘nig-ger’ in the first place, because I’m not a nig-ger, I’m a man. But if you think I’m a nig-ger, it means you need him. The question you’ve got to ask yourself, is, if you invented him, you the white people invented him, then you’ve got to find out why. And the future of the country depends on that, whether or not it is able to ask that question.”

James Baldwin

I don’t know what has entered the minds of some white Americans. For some reason they have given themselves permission to believe they have the right to use the n word. The rationale for this is, “listen to the rappers, you guys use the word among yourselves so it apparently won’t offend you when whites do it.” Let me say to whites that at one time the opinion was that the moon was made of cheese. Certainly you have freedom of speech and you CAN hold that conversation with a black and use the word at your leisure. But if you are white and you desire so much to use this word to describe us, it’s best you reserve it’s use for conversations only among whites.

Why do whites think they have this right? Everything has a history and so does the n word. The purposeful way a part of the white culture chooses to forget and even deny history is sickening. For those who are white and think it is just a harmless and endearing word when whites use it, let us do a small review of the history and usage of the n word by whites in America. After all, if there has ever been a time where whites used the word and it meant something complimentary, I really need to know. Because I my more than 57 years of living I have yet to hear that example.

“There is a direct and strong link between the word ****** and anti-black caricatures. Although ****** has been used to refer to any person of known African ancestry.2 it is usually directed against blacks who supposedly have certain negative characteristics. The Coon caricature, for example, portrays black men as lazy, ignorant, and obsessively self-indulgent; these are also traits historically represented by the word ******. The Brute caricature depicts black men as angry, physically strong, animalistic, and prone to wanton violence. This depiction is also implied in the word ******. The Tom and Mammy caricatures are often portrayed as kind, loving "friends" of whites. They are also presented as intellectually childlike, physically unattractive, and neglectful of their biological families. These latter traits have been associated with blacks, generally, and are implied in the word ******. The word ****** was a shorthand way of saying that blacks possessed the moral, intellectual, social, and physical characteristics of the Coon, Brute, Tom, Mammy, and other racial caricatures.”

Dr. David Pilgrim and Dr. Phillip Middleton, “****** and Caricature”

At no time in the history of this nation has the word ****** as used by whites ever implied anything positive. It is one of the most derogatory descriptors of a human that has ever been created. I’m not going to attempt a long dissertation about the etymology of the word. Many before me have done that. We understand it’s a word that can be traced to latin much like most of our language is. I want to look at the word as it has been used in American race relations between whites and blacks in order for whites to understand why it is unwise for them to use the word in a conversation wih a black individual.

Historically the N word has been used to by whites to describe blacks as lazy, dumb, uneducated, worthless, scum, less than human and parasites. It has stood for nothing coming out of the mouth of whites but insults and to denigrate black people. For over 240 years this has been the primary use of the word by whites. When they first started using the word, blacks could not fight back. Blacks had to take being disgraced and belittled or face beatings or death. When the lynch mobs came to get us, they were not using the word as a term of endearment. The word coming from whites has carried a belief of superiority. It was them saying they are better than us just because they exist. The pre school age white child could freely call elderly black men or women who had lived a full life and had wisdom that child may never receive that word and it’s parents said nothing about respecting your elders. The term coming from whites simply means no respect. In addition the word has meant:

• ******, v. To wear out, spoil or destroy.
  
  
• Niggerish, adj. Acting in an indolent and irresponsible manner.
  
  
• Niggerlipping, v. Wetting the end of a cigarette while smoking it.
  
  
• Niggerlover, n. Derogatory term aimed at whites lacking in the necessary loathing of blacks.
  
  
• ****** luck, n. Exceptionally good luck, emphasis on undeserved.
  
  
• ******-flicker, n. A small knife or razor with one side heavily taped to preserve the user's fingers.
  
  
• ****** heaven, n. a designated place, usually the balcony, where blacks were forced to sit, for example, in an integrated movie theater or church.
  
  
• ****** knocker, n. axe handle or weapon made from an axe handle.
  
  
• ****** rich, adj, Deeply in debt but ostentatious.
  
  
• ****** shooter, n. A slingshot.
  
  
• ****** steak, n. a slice of liver or a cheap piece of meat.
  
  
• ****** stick, n. police officer's baton.
  
  
• ****** tip, n. leaving a small tip or no tip in a restaurant.
  
  
• ****** in the woodpile, n. a concealed motive or unknown factor affecting a situation in an adverse way.
  
  
• ****** work, n. Demeaning, menial tasks.(Green, 1984, p. 190)
  
  Dr. David Pilgrim and Dr. Phillip Middleton, “****** and Caricature”
  
  Let us go back to the James Baldwin quote at the beginning of this chapter. Whites invented the word. And the word meant nothing funny or positive. Why did whites invent this word? Was it because they were the ones who felt inferior so they had to make up a fictitious term? Was it because whites were so insecure about themselves they had to make up a word to have a reason to look down on people in order to lift themselves up? And why do whites want so badly to keep using the word now? Do they have such low self esteem they must still rely on a fake word about a made up non existent being in order to feel good about themselves? I don’t know the answer and don’t give a damn what the answer could be. The N word is not to be used by whites.
  
  “If black people call each other N-words in the company of a white guy, then logically they have forfeited any right to be offended if the white guy also calls them N-words. Of course many will be offended because few people are logical when it comes to racial issues.”
  
  Anonymous white internet forum poster
  
  Funny how whites say stuff like this. We don't feel like we have the right to call whites micks, degos, wops, guineas, limeys, kikes and pollacks just because we hear them doing it. But it seems that whites have a problem and so i'll say this again: The n word is not to be used by whites. If you are white and hear blacks saying it to each other, feel free to break that rule, but then also feel free to accept the consequences that come with your decision.
  
  This is all I am going to write on this matter. ****** is not just a word. Not to blacks. And in this case, that’s the only opinion that matters. I don’t give a damn if you use the hard “r” or the “gga”, the word is not to be used by whites. Here are words spoken by a white person to another one when that person decided to argue the age-old argument some whites use about blacks saying it to each other.
  
  It doesn't matter if it is, IMO. You don't call a grown man "boy," (unless it's "cowboy") just as you don't call a Yankee woman "girl." A German doesn't call an Italian a Dego. A Caucasian doesn't call a brown person a ******. You shouldn't be arrested for it, but it's definitely provocative.
  
  Anonymous white internet forum poster
  
  
  

 

[BS Filter]

We all know why Blacks can use the "N" word and whites can't. Black privilege.

 

[Asclepias]

I'm from the South and I say what I want when I want. Anybody gives me that offended shit, they can fuck off. Real (banned word here-starts with "N", sounds like "chiggas") don't care as long as your not being insulting. Context is everything.

There's a big difference between say..

"You see that game? Them Magic (banned word here-starts with "N", sounds like "chiggas") got their ass handed to them" and

Oh, you're just a greasy, ashy-mouf, coal-black stank (banned word here-starts with "N", sounds like "chigga").

"I'm from the South and I say what I want when I want. "

Its easy to make that claim on the internet. You would only make that mistake once in my presence. That I can guarantee you.

 

[Marion Morrison]

I'm from the South and I say what I want when I want. Anybody gives me that offended shit, they can fuck off. Real (banned word here-starts with "N", sounds like "chiggas") don't care as long as your not being insulting. Context is everything.

There's a big difference between say..

"You see that game? Them Magic (banned word here-starts with "N", sounds like "chiggas") got their ass handed to them" and

Oh, you're just a greasy, ashy-mouf, coal-black stank (banned word here-starts with "N", sounds like "chigga").

"I'm from the South and I say what I want when I want. "

Its easy to make that claim on the internet. You would only make that mistake once in my presence. That I can guarantee you.

Ain't no way I'd grace your sorry self to be anywhere near my presence in the 1st place. So you keep the dream alive, bubba.

PS: You ain't no real (banned word here-starts with "N", sounds like "chigga")

You just don't know how to be real, doodoo.

Plain talk is plain talk, bro. Get you some.

 

[bodecea]

I was watching the Superbowl at Red Robin Sunday night, and a black man who was a Rams fan was getting angry at one Rams player in particular (who was black), who missed three chances to catch the ball in long passes thrown by the quarterback.

"That ****** can't catch!"

Why is that a black man can yell this word in a public place in front of dozens of witnesses, but a white man could not?

It is very hypocritical for blacks to believe they can use that word, when whites who use that word are condemned and will have their careers and lives ruined for the rest of their lives.

I'm sorry to hear that you feel so oppressed because you would be frowned on if you say the N word (no one is preventing you from saying it).

 

[Asclepias]

I was watching the Superbowl at Red Robin Sunday night, and a black man who was a Rams fan was getting angry at one Rams player in particular (who was black), who missed three chances to catch the ball in long passes thrown by the quarterback.

"That ****** can't catch!"

Why is that a black man can yell this word in a public place in front of dozens of witnesses, but a white man could not?

It is very hypocritical for blacks to believe they can use that word, when whites who use that word are condemned and will have their careers and lives ruined for the rest of their lives.

"What white people have to do is try and find out in their own hearts why it was necessary to have a ‘nig-ger’ in the first place, because I’m not a nig-ger, I’m a man. But if you think I’m a nig-ger, it means you need him. The question you’ve got to ask yourself, is, if you invented him, you the white people invented him, then you’ve got to find out why. And the future of the country depends on that, whether or not it is able to ask that question.”

James Baldwin

I don’t know what has entered the minds of some white Americans. For some reason they have given themselves permission to believe they have the right to use the n word. The rationale for this is, “listen to the rappers, you guys use the word among yourselves so it apparently won’t offend you when whites do it.” Let me say to whites that at one time the opinion was that the moon was made of cheese. Certainly you have freedom of speech and you CAN hold that conversation with a black and use the word at your leisure. But if you are white and you desire so much to use this word to describe us, it’s best you reserve it’s use for conversations only among whites.

Why do whites think they have this right? Everything has a history and so does the n word. The purposeful way a part of the white culture chooses to forget and even deny history is sickening. For those who are white and think it is just a harmless and endearing word when whites use it, let us do a small review of the history and usage of the n word by whites in America. After all, if there has ever been a time where whites used the word and it meant something complimentary, I really need to know. Because I my more than 57 years of living I have yet to hear that example.

“There is a direct and strong link between the word ****** and anti-black caricatures. Although ****** has been used to refer to any person of known African ancestry.2 it is usually directed against blacks who supposedly have certain negative characteristics. The Coon caricature, for example, portrays black men as lazy, ignorant, and obsessively self-indulgent; these are also traits historically represented by the word ******. The Brute caricature depicts black men as angry, physically strong, animalistic, and prone to wanton violence. This depiction is also implied in the word ******. The Tom and Mammy caricatures are often portrayed as kind, loving "friends" of whites. They are also presented as intellectually childlike, physically unattractive, and neglectful of their biological families. These latter traits have been associated with blacks, generally, and are implied in the word ******. The word ****** was a shorthand way of saying that blacks possessed the moral, intellectual, social, and physical characteristics of the Coon, Brute, Tom, Mammy, and other racial caricatures.”

Dr. David Pilgrim and Dr. Phillip Middleton, “****** and Caricature”

At no time in the history of this nation has the word ****** as used by whites ever implied anything positive. It is one of the most derogatory descriptors of a human that has ever been created. I’m not going to attempt a long dissertation about the etymology of the word. Many before me have done that. We understand it’s a word that can be traced to latin much like most of our language is. I want to look at the word as it has been used in American race relations between whites and blacks in order for whites to understand why it is unwise for them to use the word in a conversation wih a black individual.

Historically the N word has been used to by whites to describe blacks as lazy, dumb, uneducated, worthless, scum, less than human and parasites. It has stood for nothing coming out of the mouth of whites but insults and to denigrate black people. For over 240 years this has been the primary use of the word by whites. When they first started using the word, blacks could not fight back. Blacks had to take being disgraced and belittled or face beatings or death. When the lynch mobs came to get us, they were not using the word as a term of endearment. The word coming from whites has carried a belief of superiority. It was them saying they are better than us just because they exist. The pre school age white child could freely call elderly black men or women who had lived a full life and had wisdom that child may never receive that word and it’s parents said nothing about respecting your elders. The term coming from whites simply means no respect. In addition the word has meant:

• ******, v. To wear out, spoil or destroy.
  
  
• Niggerish, adj. Acting in an indolent and irresponsible manner.
  
  
• Niggerlipping, v. Wetting the end of a cigarette while smoking it.
  
  
• Niggerlover, n. Derogatory term aimed at whites lacking in the necessary loathing of blacks.
  
  
• ****** luck, n. Exceptionally good luck, emphasis on undeserved.
  
  
• ******-flicker, n. A small knife or razor with one side heavily taped to preserve the user's fingers.
  
  
• ****** heaven, n. a designated place, usually the balcony, where blacks were forced to sit, for example, in an integrated movie theater or church.
  
  
• ****** knocker, n. axe handle or weapon made from an axe handle.
  
  
• ****** rich, adj, Deeply in debt but ostentatious.
  
  
• ****** shooter, n. A slingshot.
  
  
• ****** steak, n. a slice of liver or a cheap piece of meat.
  
  
• ****** stick, n. police officer's baton.
  
  
• ****** tip, n. leaving a small tip or no tip in a restaurant.
  
  
• ****** in the woodpile, n. a concealed motive or unknown factor affecting a situation in an adverse way.
  
  
• ****** work, n. Demeaning, menial tasks.(Green, 1984, p. 190)
  
  Dr. David Pilgrim and Dr. Phillip Middleton, “****** and Caricature”
  
  Let us go back to the James Baldwin quote at the beginning of this chapter. Whites invented the word. And the word meant nothing funny or positive. Why did whites invent this word? Was it because they were the ones who felt inferior so they had to make up a fictitious term? Was it because whites were so insecure about themselves they had to make up a word to have a reason to look down on people in order to lift themselves up? And why do whites want so badly to keep using the word now? Do they have such low self esteem they must still rely on a fake word about a made up non existent being in order to feel good about themselves? I don’t know the answer and don’t give a damn what the answer could be. The N word is not to be used by whites.
  
  “If black people call each other N-words in the company of a white guy, then logically they have forfeited any right to be offended if the white guy also calls them N-words. Of course many will be offended because few people are logical when it comes to racial issues.”
  
  Anonymous white internet forum poster
  
  Funny how whites say stuff like this. We don't feel like we have the right to call whites micks, degos, wops, guineas, limeys, kikes and pollacks just because we hear them doing it. But it seems that whites have a problem and so i'll say this again: The n word is not to be used by whites. If you are white and hear blacks saying it to each other, feel free to break that rule, but then also feel free to accept the consequences that come with your decision.
  
  This is all I am going to write on this matter. ****** is not just a word. Not to blacks. And in this case, that’s the only opinion that matters. I don’t give a damn if you use the hard “r” or the “gga”, the word is not to be used by whites. Here are words spoken by a white person to another one when that person decided to argue the age-old argument some whites use about blacks saying it to each other.
  
  It doesn't matter if it is, IMO. You don't call a grown man "boy," (unless it's "cowboy") just as you don't call a Yankee woman "girl." A German doesn't call an Italian a Dego. A Caucasian doesn't call a brown person a ******. You shouldn't be arrested for it, but it's definitely provocative.
  
  Anonymous white internet forum poster
  
  

I think whites also are either bad of hearing or they pretend to me. Blacks dont call each other the n word. They use another word that ends in a. The word that ends in "er" will ultimately cause severe pain to the white boy brave enough to use it.

 

[bodecea]

I was watching the Superbowl at Red Robin Sunday night, and a black man who was a Rams fan was getting angry at one Rams player in particular (who was black), who missed three chances to catch the ball in long passes thrown by the quarterback.

"That ****** can't catch!"

Why is that a black man can yell this word in a public place in front of dozens of witnesses, but a white man could not?

It is very hypocritical for blacks to believe they can use that word, when whites who use that word are condemned and will have their careers and lives ruined for the rest of their lives.

So you want permission to be a racist? Is that it?

If a white boy can't catch a ball, feel free to yell, "That cracker can't catch!" I'm sure all the blacks and Hispanics will appreciate you.

If Blacks get offended when Whites use the N-word, then they should not use the N-word around Whites. Also, Blacks should be just as unforgiving of other Blacks that us the N-word as they are of Whites that use the N-Word. It is really that simple.

"Shame on you black people for using the N-word while I can't! Boo Hoo!"

 

[bodecea]

I was watching the Superbowl at Red Robin Sunday night, and a black man who was a Rams fan was getting angry at one Rams player in particular (who was black), who missed three chances to catch the ball in long passes thrown by the quarterback.

"That ****** can't catch!"

Why is that a black man can yell this word in a public place in front of dozens of witnesses, but a white man could not?

It is very hypocritical for blacks to believe they can use that word, when whites who use that word are condemned and will have their careers and lives ruined for the rest of their lives.

So you want permission to be a racist? Is that it?

If a white boy can't catch a ball, feel free to yell, "That cracker can't catch!" I'm sure all the blacks and Hispanics will appreciate you.

No, you stupid idiot. I want blacks not to use a word that is so widely condemned when used by whites.

Did you condemn that guy in Red Robin for using that word? (What sad lonely person goes to Red Robin for the Super Bowl anyways? )