The NRA Has An Anti-Semitism Problem

[Lastamender]

I don't look stupid, you have to be FORCED to post that and it's not forum etiquette to post articles that are behind a Paywall, not everyone wants to waste money getting a Subscription to things like The Washington Post. Also do not call me a Hun you filthy bigot.

You mean you didn't get a huge windfall from Trump's tax cut? You can't afford $20?

Smart people do not waste money. The Washington Post is very predictable. There is no need to waste money on that.

 

[koshergrl]

You got a little problem here Tommy Tain.. If you can make lists of Jews OPPOSING the NRA, I can up the ante..

Kinda gonna deflate your premise with ONE link... Ready??????

The President of the National Rifle Association is Jewish?

Sandra Froman is only the second woman and the first Jew ever to hold the volunteer position of NRA president. While there are certainly other Jews on her side of the gun debate (including several NRA board members), the vast majority of American Jews and much of the organized Jewish community consistently support gun control measures.

You are talking about tokenism. Even Trump employs low energy Ben Carson to deflect from his obvious racism.
The weight of evidence suggests that there is a problem.

Here is another nailed on example.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...anti-semitic-outburst/?utm_term=.2a74fae1dd1a

Did he get sacked for this ?

"Here is another nailed on example.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...anti-semitic-outburst/?utm_term=.2a74fae1dd1a

Did he get sacked for this ?"

For what is Ben Carson supposed to have been sacked for commenting exactly? Screen Shot or copy and paste the relevant section and/or sections from that Washington Post linked article.

Its not about Ben Carson, its about Ted Nugent. OMG !!

Yes we know it says in the HEADLINE, but to read the ARTICLE you need a Subscription, so post the relevant sections from the article. LOL you get more pathetic now you are posting links to articles you have no idea whats even IN the article.

Here you go.

Gun owners are pressuring the National Rifle Association to boot longtime board member Ted Nugent from the organization’s leadership ranks after the rock star’s social media outburst that depicted prominent American Jews as the men and women “really behind gun control.”

Nugent, an outspoken Second Amendment advocate, posted a photo on Facebook earlier this week calling Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), “Jew York City Mayor Mikey Bloomberg,” former senator Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, among many others, “punks” who would “deny us the basic human right to self defense and to keep and bear arms while many of them have paid hired armed security.”

The Israeli flag appears over or next to each of the 12 faces in the photo, which is the same one that has been shared many times in white supremacist circles, according to the Anti-Defamation League.

The post prompted applause from anti-Semitic and neo-Nazi groups.

Nugent later posted a photo of Nazis rounding up Jews during the Holocaust and described gun-control advocates as “soulless sheep to slaughter.”

Nugent’s Facebook posts triggered cries of anti-Semitism and prompted gun-control activists and Second Amendment advocates alike to call for his removal from NRA’s board of directors; even several leading voices in the gun rights movement say they can no longer justify his “simple-minded” remarks.

The “Cat Scratch Fever” singer has served on the NRA board since 1995.

An NRA spokeswoman told The Washington Post on Wednesday that “individual board members do not speak for the NRA.”

[Ted Nugent rocks the political world]

Nugent’s comments have landed him in trouble in the past. He has targeted the Supreme Court, Trayvon Martin and Hillary Clinton. He once called President Obama a “sub-human mongrel” — and then apologized. (Even Nugent’s own brother said he had “clearly crossed a line.”)

But he has shown no remorse this time, even as other gun rights activists have taken to publicly criticizing him.

Amid the backlash, Nugent on Wednesday reposted his 2010 tribute to Aaron Zelman, who founded Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.

“My hero, my American BloodBrother and an American Warrior legend, the great Aaron Zelman perfectly represented all free men who refuse to be controlled by others or denied our God given right to keep and bear arms,” he wrote at the time. “We stand repulsed by the ugly soullessness of unarmed helplessness.”

On Wednesday, Nugent pointed out that Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership recently criticized him for this week’s controversial comments.

“How tragic that the self inflicted scourge of political correctness can blind so many otherwise intelligent people!” he wrote on Facebook.

But Bob Owens, editor for BearingArms.com, wrote online this week that Nugent should have realized he “stepped in it” when “even-tempered pro-gun folks took issue” with his Facebook posts.

Instead, Nugent rehashed his point in another post — comparing Jewish gun-control advocates to Nazis.

“What sort of racist prejudiced POS could possibly not know that Jews for gun control are Nazis in disguise?” Nugent wrote.

Owens said many gun rights advocates are now “simply done with Nugent.”

“They’re tired of feeling that they have to defend his half-baked rhetoric and simple-minded outbursts,” Owens wrote on BearingArms.com. “Many people are calling for him to resign from the NRA Board and for him to have his membership stripped from him.

“While I think forcing him out of the NRA entirely is a bit much, I do think he owes the world a sincere apology. If he can’t find that sincerity in his heart, then he has no business being on the board of an inclusive organization such as the National Rifle Association.”

[Cheat sheet: Ted Nugent’s greatest hits]

In fact, many gun owners who once supported Nugent seem to have changed their minds.

His recent Facebook posts are littered with negative comments suggesting that he may have gone too far.

One commenter called Nugent’s post “disgraceful.”

“Uncle Ted, I support (many) of your viewpoints, and have been a long term fan of your music,” the man wrote, “but this time you’ve gone way over the line.”

Another user told Nugent: “You sank low here.”

“I call total f—— b——- here,” he wrote. “I am a Jewish conservative gun owner. This is just f—— hate. I’ve always supported you, but f— you Ted.”

Debbie Schlussel, a conservative political commentator and columnist, called out Nugent for mocking Holocaust survivors.

“As a religious Jew who testified with you in the Michigan Senate for relaxing gun laws and strengthening the 2nd Amendment, I’m absolutely disgusted but not at all surprised that you are showing what I always suspected: that you are a Jew-hater and a piece of crap,” she wrote. “Ted Nugent Endorses Jews, then Announces He Hates Jews. Also, I’m sickened you invoke the slogan of Jewish Holocaust survivors, ‘Never Again’ in mockery.”

[Nugent says Obama administration is like Nazis]

Robert Farago, publisher of the Truth About Guns, said that Nugent’s remarks “take it to the next, deeply disgusting level” and asked the NRA to act.

“Mr. Nugent should remove this post and ‘clarify’ his statement,” he wrote on his group’s website. “The NRA should distance itself from Mr. Nugent. They should revoke his membership and remove him from their Board.”

Anti-Defamation League Director Jonathan Greenblatt said Nugent’s comments were “nothing short of conspiratorial anti-Semitism.”

“Regardless of one’s views on gun control, this kind of scapegoating of an entire religious group is completely unacceptable and completely divorced from reality,” Greenblatt said in a statement. “It should go without saying that anti-Semitism has no place in the gun control debate.

“Nugent should be ashamed for promoting anti-Semitic content, and we hope that good people on both sides of the gun control debate will reject his tactics and his message.”

Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, took aim at Nugent as well after being featured in the Facebook post.

“Ted Nugent’s latest comments go beyond being anti-Semitic — they are ignorant and do nothing but fuel hate,” Gross said in a statement. “Personally, I am repulsed — my brother was shot and seriously wounded in a religiously-motivated mass shooting on the observation deck of the Empire State Building. Reasonable people on both sides of the debate recognize Mr. Nugent’s comments for what they are: hate speech and nothing more.”

Gross added that Nugent’s posts were “yet another clear sign of how out of touch NRA’s leadership and Board” are with the group’s members.

Lololol...

People LOVE Nugent. But they love the NRA more.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, took aim at Nugent as well after being featured in the Facebook post.

“Ted Nugent’s latest comments go beyond being anti-Semitic — they are ignorant and do nothing but fuel hate,” Gross said in a statement. “Personally, I am repulsed — my brother was shot and seriously wounded in a religiously-motivated mass shooting on the observation deck of the Empire State Building. Reasonable people on both sides of the debate recognize Mr. Nugent’s comments for what they are: hate speech and nothing more.”

Gross added that Nugent’s posts were “yet another clear sign of how out of touch NRA’s leadership and Board” are with the group’s members.

Nobody cares what an idiot like Ted Nugent comments, he's irrelevant.

"Gross added that Nugent’s posts were “yet another clear sign of how out of touch NRA’s leadership and Board” are with the group’s members."

It has already been posted in this thread that the NRA leadership and Board contain Jews, so are they also Anti-Semitic?

 

[impuretrash]

How is this an attack on you for being a white supremacist?

You said that the left doesn't attack republicans for being white, and I presented mainstream news articles that attack them for literally just that. The anti-white agenda is real, and it churns out propaganda like this every single day. Can't you see that you're driving moderates away right into the waiting arms of mean ol' nazis like myself?

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

"Here is another nailed on example.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...anti-semitic-outburst/?utm_term=.2a74fae1dd1a

Did he get sacked for this ?"

For what is Ben Carson supposed to have been sacked for commenting exactly? Screen Shot or copy and paste the relevant section and/or sections from that Washington Post linked article.

Its not about Ben Carson, its about Ted Nugent. OMG !!

Yes we know it says in the HEADLINE, but to read the ARTICLE you need a Subscription, so post the relevant sections from the article. LOL you get more pathetic now you are posting links to articles you have no idea whats even IN the article.

Have you noticed Tammys been linking to a lot of paywall articles lately? When you tell him he rarely cuts and pastes from them - so yes, he doesn’t have subscriptions and doesn’t know what’s in them - but he thinks the headline will do for his purposes. Lol.

How stupid do you look now hun ?

Because you once out of 10 times respond to the request for actual content? Not at all.

We are still waiting for him to tell us if Socialist is Code for Jew.

 

[The Derp]

no matter how I get it------it try not to WASTE it

But it was this huge windfall, wasn't it? Didn't you see a gigantic increase in your take-home pay? Enough that you could afford the $1 it costs to get 4 weeks free digital access to the WaPo? You didn't even get a $1 increase in your pay after the tax cut? Wow. You must not make a lot of money at all.

 

[The Derp]

Smart people do not waste money. The Washington Post is very predictable. There is no need to waste money on that.

Smart people don't read the news?

It only costs $1 for a four-week unlimited digital access trail.

You didn't even get a $1 increase thanks to the tax cut? Wow. You must make next to nothing.

 

[irosie91]

Its not about Ben Carson, its about Ted Nugent. OMG !!

Yes we know it says in the HEADLINE, but to read the ARTICLE you need a Subscription, so post the relevant sections from the article. LOL you get more pathetic now you are posting links to articles you have no idea whats even IN the article.

Have you noticed Tammys been linking to a lot of paywall articles lately? When you tell him he rarely cuts and pastes from them - so yes, he doesn’t have subscriptions and doesn’t know what’s in them - but he thinks the headline will do for his purposes. Lol.

How stupid do you look now hun ?

I don't look stupid, you have to be FORCED to post that and it's not forum etiquette to post articles that are behind a Paywall, not everyone wants to waste money getting a Subscription to things like The Washington Post. Also do not call me a Hun you filthy bigot.

sheeeesh Lucy-------"HUN"-----is HUNNIE aka HONEY in Dixieland-----

on second thought----maybe TAINTED meant "HUN"------

 

[impuretrash]

Smart people do not waste money. The Washington Post is very predictable. There is no need to waste money on that.

Smart people don't read the news?

It only costs $1 for a four-week unlimited digital access trail.

You didn't even get a $1 increase thanks to the tax cut? Wow. You must make next to nothing.

Smart people know how to get around WaPo's paywall without contributing a dime to fund their propaganda machine.

 

[The Derp]

You said that the left doesn't attack republicans for being white, and I presented mainstream news articles that attack them for literally just that.

How are those articles "an attack"? Pointing out how white you are isn't an attack unless you are a snowflake. Are you a snowflake?

YThe anti-white agenda is real, and it churns out propaganda like this every single day. Can't you see that you're driving moderates away right into the waiting arms of mean ol' nazis like myself?

Please explain how it's "propaganda" by accurately reporting how monochrome you are?

 

[The Derp]

Can't you see that you're driving moderates away right into the waiting arms of mean ol' nazis like myself?

1. That's not happening. Trump's approval is the lowest ever.
2. "look what you made me do" is abuser mentality.

 

[The Derp]

Smart people know how to get around WaPo's paywall without contributing a dime to fund their propaganda machine.

Obviously you're not one of those if you can't find a way around it for this particular article.

Or you're just a poor person who didn't get any benefit from the tax cut because you work in a shitty job that pays shitty wages. Maybe that's why you're so bitter.

 

[Lastamender]

Can't you see that you're driving moderates away right into the waiting arms of mean ol' nazis like myself?

1. That's not happening. Trump's approval is the lowest ever.
2. "look what you made me do" is abuser mentality.

Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
President Trump Job Approval Rasmussen Reports Approve 49, Disapprove 49 Tie

Why are you lying? 49% is not an all time low.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Its not about Ben Carson, its about Ted Nugent. OMG !!

See, that's what Nazi Conservatives do; they intentionally distort and conflate topics to create a debate of non-sequiturs and diversions from their own inherent Nazism.

There are about 140 deflection posts on this thread. The wagons are being circled around the anti Semitic NRA.

Not at all.. This wagon is leaving your trolling senseless ranting screed. Because it only validates your attempt at foreign intervention into American politics. If you're continue declaring victory, based on political SPIN from the Forward and WashPo thinking they heard "things" in the actual words, based on a LIST of names provided in the speech -- you got serious bias and "racism" issues yourself mate..

So you dont have a problem with any of it ?

There's no anti-semitism, racism ANYWHERE in sight. So people who THINK they are seeing it are hallucinating or USING IT for partisan advantage. I gave you a recent JEWISH NRA president and Board members. What you don't understand is that the NRA is too smart to compromise their CONVICTIONS AND PRINCIPLES to attract that kind of attention EVEN IF -- the leadership WAS seriously bigoted or biased.

You're not thinking.. The "beat down" was over your Socialist brethren. And NOW you want to validate a conspiracy theory the the JEWS control YOU and your movement leadership.. But that's no where in evidence. IS it there Comrade Tommy??

Disclaimer -- I LOVE principled politics. Some of the most principled, eloquent people I've ever met and debated were Green Socialists. I PREFER THEM to your garden variety "all for the control of power" Democrat leftists. So my views are NOT aligned with the NRA on this "Socialist menace".. ALTHOUGH -- I will do everything in my power to KEEP them from conning the gullible into voting for them..

So you are ok with this ?

Nugent, an outspoken Second Amendment advocate, posted a photo on Facebook earlier this week calling Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), “Jew York City Mayor Mikey Bloomberg,” former senator Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, among many others, “punks” who would “deny us the basic human right to self defense and to keep and bear arms while many of them have paid hired armed security.”

The Israeli flag appears over or next to each of the 12 faces in the photo, which is the same one that has been shared many times in white supremacist circles, according to the Anti-Defamation League.

The post prompted applause from anti-Semitic and neo-Nazi groups.

Again like with LaPierre it is only Jews who are the target. "Jew York City" FFS.

 

[flacaltenn]

Its not about Ben Carson, its about Ted Nugent. OMG !!

Yes we know it says in the HEADLINE, but to read the ARTICLE you need a Subscription, so post the relevant sections from the article. LOL you get more pathetic now you are posting links to articles you have no idea whats even IN the article.

Have you noticed Tammys been linking to a lot of paywall articles lately? When you tell him he rarely cuts and pastes from them - so yes, he doesn’t have subscriptions and doesn’t know what’s in them - but he thinks the headline will do for his purposes. Lol.

How stupid do you look now hun ?

Because you once out of 10 times respond to the request for actual content? Not at all.

We are still waiting for him to tell us if Socialist is Code for Jew.

It IS amongst our skin head contingency here in the States. I can give you references to some of our representatives here on USMB who talk about "NAMING the Jews". Which is basically what the Tomster is doing in this thread. Promoting THEIR agenda in order to promote his own.. Because the NRA slimed his peeps...

 

[Lastamender]

Smart people know how to get around WaPo's paywall without contributing a dime to fund their propaganda machine.

Obviously you're not one of those if you can't find a way around it for this particular article.

Or you're just a poor person who didn't get any benefit from the tax cut because you work in a shitty job that pays shitty wages. Maybe that's why you're so bitter.

Then you try to make your life better. Not complain and wait for someone to do it for you.

 

[impuretrash]

You said that the left doesn't attack republicans for being white, and I presented mainstream news articles that attack them for literally just that.

How are those articles "an attack"? Pointing out how white you are isn't an attack unless you are a snowflake. Are you a snowflake?

YThe anti-white agenda is real, and it churns out propaganda like this every single day. Can't you see that you're driving moderates away right into the waiting arms of mean ol' nazis like myself?

Please explain how it's "propaganda" by accurately reporting how monochrome you are?

Remember what started this conversation between you and I. Nugent pointed out that some people are jewish, hinting that perhaps they may favor their own group at the expense of others. The left doesn't even try to play coy, according to them only a moral leper would even countenance the idea that white people even have group interests, much less have the right to advocate for them.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Its not about Ben Carson, its about Ted Nugent. OMG !!

Yes we know it says in the HEADLINE, but to read the ARTICLE you need a Subscription, so post the relevant sections from the article. LOL you get more pathetic now you are posting links to articles you have no idea whats even IN the article.

Have you noticed Tammys been linking to a lot of paywall articles lately? When you tell him he rarely cuts and pastes from them - so yes, he doesn’t have subscriptions and doesn’t know what’s in them - but he thinks the headline will do for his purposes. Lol.

How stupid do you look now hun ?

I don't look stupid, you have to be FORCED to post that and it's not forum etiquette to post articles that are behind a Paywall, not everyone wants to waste money getting a Subscription to things like The Washington Post. Also do not call me a Hun you filthy bigot.

sheeeesh Lucy-------"HUN"-----is HUNNIE aka HONEY in Dixieland-----

Okay I did not know of that you mention.

The British and Americans also have had the other use a use we are more aware of and not this Hun Hunnie that you refer. Not used to being called Hun like you say in Hun Hunnie I automatically think this below use of Hun which is what filthy bigots would use.

 

[The Derp]

Remember what started this conversation between you and I. Nugent pointed out that some people are jewish, hinting that perhaps they may favor their own group at the expense of others.

OK, and...? That's an indictment of how you're treated because of your whiteness, how?

The left doesn't even try to play coy, according to them only a moral leper would even countenance the idea that white people even have group interests, much less have the right to advocate for them.

You aren't representative of white people; you're representative of white supremacists.

White supremacists are garbage people.

 

[impuretrash]

Can't you see that you're driving moderates away right into the waiting arms of mean ol' nazis like myself?

1. That's not happening. Trump's approval is the lowest ever.
2. "look what you made me do" is abuser mentality.

Sorry, but it is. The left are 100% responsible for groups such as the Alt-right gaining prominence, and more and more people every day are starting to sympathize with the cause. So keep up what you're doing. There's literal fascist marches of hundreds of people happening in Italy and in various European countries, thanks to suicidal leftist policies.