The Official Zimmerman Trial Verdict Thread

[Uncensored2008]

BTW oldfart, my name is not essie, it is Esmeralda.

You are a sick, sick sad old man if you think that demonizing a dead, murdered teenager furthers you or your position in any way. All it does is make you a small, evil spirited, sad individual.

I'm curious, when you folk don your hoods and robes, do you burn a crescent moon on Zimmerman's lawn? I mean, it wouldn't be a cross like your mirror image, right?

 

[KissMy]

What people like Essie can't seem to understand is that the Trayvon Martin that they "believe" existed is simply an image that was put out by the Martin family lawyers to help them win a huge civil law suit. You listen to the story that was coming out of the Martin camp and you'd think that Trayvon was raised by the Huxtables...the product of a loving and stable home! The truth is, he seldom stayed with either his mother or his father. He was living with an uncle. His mother and father were clueless about what was going on in Trayvon's life because the real truth is that they weren't IN much of Trayvon's life.

Trayvon was bounced around like a pinball between parents, step parents & uncle. He was often homeless & kicked out of school. He robbed, stole, illegally sold guns, drugs & attacked snitches like Zimmerman. Trayvon's TV & court parents are all for show me the money!

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[Esmeralda]

On what basis do you see one of the two parties as more worthy of condemnation than the other?

Because one of them murdered an innocent, unarmed individual who was was in a place he had a right to be and minding his own business. Zimmerman's life was never in danger. He used lethal force in a non-lethal situation.

 

[R.D.]

On what basis do you see one of the two parties as more worthy of condemnation than the other?

Because one of them murdered an innocent, unarmed individual who was was in a place he had a right to be and minding his own business. Zimmerman's life was never in danger. He used lethal force in a non-lethal situation.

Repeating a lie often enough only makes the liar boring

 

[Spoonman]

let me ask this question. If you change lanes and don't use your directional and I flip out because you almost ran me off the road. Then at the stop light i jump out of my car, start kicking your ass. You shoot me and kill me. Are you guilty of murder or are you protecting yourself?

 

[thanatos144]

It is over... Zimmerman is innocent and Trayvon is no more less dead. All of you still feeding the racist democrats trolls need to get new hobbies.

 

[Uncensored2008]

 

[Uncensored2008]

Because one of them murdered an innocent, unarmed individual who was was in a place he had a right to be and minding his own business. Zimmerman's life was never in danger. He used lethal force in a non-lethal situation.

I'm curious, why do you lie like you do?

is it your racism?

 

[Snookie]

Nobody could out lie Zimmerman. He can make up stories faster than a red horse can fly.

Faster than you SPLC Klansmen can make up "White Hispanic?"

show me one post where I said "white hispanic".

BTW, hispanic is not a race. An hispanic could be from mexico,puerto rico cuba, but probably not spain.

 

[Foxfyre]

The media certainly used the term 'white Hispanic' and most dishonestly and for nefarious reasons when they did so. All fair minded people, even Snookie, should acknowledge that.

There is no designation for "white Hispanic" on any statistical data base but rather only "White - non Hispanic".

Hispanics or Latinos are those people who classified themselves in one of the specific Spanish, Hispanic, or Latino categories listed on the Census 2010 questionnaire -"Mexican," "Puerto Rican", or "Cuban"-as well as those who indicate that they are "another Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish origin." People who do not identify with one of the specific origins listed on the questionnaire but indicate that they are "another Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish origin" are those whose origins are from Spain, the Spanish-speaking countries of Central or South America, or the Dominican Republic. The terms "Hispanic," "Latino," and "Spanish" are used interchangeably.

Origin can be view as the heritage, nationality group, lineage, or country of birth of the person or the person's parents or ancestors before their arrival in the United States.

People who identify their origin as Spanish, Hispanic, or Latino may be of any race. Thus, the percent Hispanic should not be added to percentages for racial categories.

Non-Hispanic White alone persons. are individuals who responded "No, not Spanish/Hispanic/Latino" and who reported "White" as their only entry in the race question. Tallies that show race categories for Hispanics and non-Hispanics separately are also available.

Hispanic or Latino Origin

 

[Meister]

Nobody could out lie Zimmerman. He can make up stories faster than a red horse can fly.

Faster than you SPLC Klansmen can make up "White Hispanic?"

show me one post where I said "white hispanic".

BTW, hispanic is not a race. An hispanic could be from mexico,puerto rico cuba, but probably not spain.

A person is an Hispanic until he becomes a millionaire, at that time he becomes a Spaniard. -----Lee Trevino

 

[MikeK]

Why are gun owners always profiled, chased, stopped, harassed, beaten & or arrested???

While I am 100% pro-Second Amendment I'm afraid it's too late to repeal all the gun laws and to allow unconstrained possession of firearms.

The problem with the existing gun situation began with the first gun law. If that law had not been enacted (by an authoritarian frontier marshal) the unlawful and non-judicious use of firearms would eventually, and naturally, have responded to control by the peaceful, law-abiding population. While there would certainly be occasional misuse of guns I believe those occasions would be far fewer than occur today. The main benefit would be a generally more peaceful society because, as the general behavior of Americans who live in Southwest will attest, an armed society is a polite society.

But as American culture evolved, with as much firearms repression as the Constitution will allow, a greater dependence on police is imposed on the public resulting in the rise of our increasingly authoritarian federal, state, and municipal governments. Minus this imposed dependency on police the ordinary armed citizens would by now have effectively purged the majority of street criminals and active crazies and a universal sense of appropriate and proper firearms decorum would have evolved.

As it is, the multitude of guns laws, while having no effect on gun crime and misuse, have resulted in the inability of the free citizen to protect himself, his family and his law-abiding neighbors, and has resulted in the rise of an armed outlaw population that preys on an unarmed, anti-gun and gun-prohibited population. The bottom line is the effect of generations of gun prohibition has created a situation in which the repeal of gun laws would result in an immediate state of mayhem that would last for at least a decade and negatively affect millions of innocent American, many of whom know nothing about guns, are afraid of them, and have become totally dependent on police to protect them both at home and on the streets.

 

[Cecilie1200]

That proves that zimmerman was lying. He knew that TM did not come towards him. He snuck up on TM and shot him.

That's a neat trick considering the ballistics report that stated that Martin was shot while bent over. So you're saying that Zimmerman "snuck up" on Trayvon...threw himself flat on the ground and shot Trayvon as he leaned over him? Draw that up on a chalk board, Snookie...I'd love to see you picture how it took place!

Actually Trayvon was on top but turning to go away. Even Dr. D the defense specialist said he could have been turning as if to get up from the fight. It has to be true becasue there is no way George could have gotten his gun out and shot Trayvon, the way he said Trayvon was on top of him,. Trayvon had to pulling back and turning as if to get up. Even George said he stood up and a neighbor said he walked away and fell and died. hands on chest of course.

It kind of creeps me out the way George was going around after the shot , saying I shot him like he won some video game or something.

So . . . have the orderlies on your ward mentioned what THEY think before they gave you your Thorazine?

 

[Cecilie1200]

It's a landmark case, and if the sophistication of the federal government is needed, then so be it. Sometimes extraordinary measures are needed.

It wouldn't be double jeopardy anyway as long as the feds don't try to prove manslaughter or murder.

You pay word games to justify shredding the Constitution? Shame on you.

It seems evident that your statements about defending American freedoms were little more than bravado and that you would spit upon the Constitution like Bush and Obama and their cronies.

Immie

Calm down. I don't entirely blame you for your position. I don't entirely like it either, but catastrophic injustices should be corrected. I don't know if the feds will do this or not, as most believe there is a lot of ambivalence whether they can or not. I am just stating common sense guidelines to show that it is still a real possibility, and I cited the Rodney King case to back me up, which for some odd reason you have totally ignored, even though you clicked on the reply earlier that was talking about King and double jeopardy.

The judge acknowledged that having two such trials did not legally constitute double jeopardy, but nonetheless it "raised the specter of unfairness."

I guess I need to repeat it for Immie's sake: Why then didn't double jeopardy preclude the officers from being charged in federal court? I know the cases are different, ok? But as long as the civil rights charges don't match the acquittals in any way, what's the problem?

Maybe it's fate. For the sake of all the Immies and half-Immies out there, maybe we need even a U.S. Supreme Court ruling on this case and a little new ground in law to rest their troubled minds.

Rodney King - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The officers

The Los Angeles district attorney charged officers Koon, Powell, Briseno and Wind with use of excessive force. Sergeant Koon, while he did not strike King, only having deployed the Taser, was, as the supervisory officer at the scene, charged with "willfully permitting and failing to take action to stop the unlawful assault."

The California Court of Appeals removed the initial judge, Bernard Kamins, after it was proved Kamins told prosecutors, "You can trust me." The Court also granted a change of venue to the city of Simi Valley in neighboring Ventura County, citing potential contamination due to saturated media coverage.

Though few people at first considered race an important factor in the case, including Rodney King's attorney, Steven Lerman, the sensitizing effect of the Holliday videotape was at the time stirring deep resentment in Los Angeles, as well as other major cities in the United States. The officers' jury consisted of Ventura County residents: ten white; one Latino; one Asian. Lead Prosecutor Terry White was African American. On April 29, 1992, the jury acquitted three of the officers, but could not agree on one of the charges against Powell.[9]

Los Angeles Mayor Tom Bradley said, "The jury's verdict will not blind us to what we saw on that videotape. The men who beat Rodney King do not deserve to wear the uniform of the L.A.P.D."[30] President George H. W. Bush said, "Viewed from outside the trial, it was hard to understand how the verdict could possibly square with the video. Those civil rights leaders with whom I met were stunned. And so was I and so was Barbara and so were my kids."[31]

Los Angeles riots and the aftermath

The acquittals are considered to have triggered the Los Angeles riots of 1992. By the time the police, the U.S. Army, Marines and National Guard restored order, the riots had caused 53 deaths, 2,383 injuries, more than 7,000 fires, damage to 3,100 businesses, and nearly $1 billion in financial losses. Smaller riots occurred in other cities such as San Francisco, Las Vegas in neighboring Nevada and as far east as Atlanta, Georgia. A minor riot erupted on Yonge St., in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, as a result of the acquittals.

Federal trial of officers

After the riots, the United States Department of Justice reinstated the investigation and obtained an indictment of violations of federal civil rights against the four officers in the United States District Court for the Central District of California. The federal trial focused more on the evidence as to the training of officers instead of just relying on the videotape of the incident. On March 9 of the 1993 trial, King took the witness stand and described to the jury the events as he remembered them.[32] The jury found Officer Laurence Powell and Sergeant Stacey Koon guilty, and they were subsequently sentenced to 32 months in prison, while Timothy Wind and Theodore Briseno were acquitted of all charges. ...

Your mommy really should have told you when you were a child: Not getting your own way is not classified as a "catastrophic injustice".

FYI, there is a system in place for correcting mistakes made in jury trials, and it does NOT involve the federal government persecuting people to make you happy.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I've had a vision and I know what really happened. Zimmerman tripped and busted his nose and was knocked out. TM went to assist GM and found that he had no pulse and started administering CPR. While TM was giving GZ CPR he screamed for help. GZ woke and shot TM in cold blood. GZ is the Devil and will burn in Hell.

Actually, that's a far better case than the prosecution presented.

But then, almost anything would have been.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Ok this is just getting bizarro.

Are the lunatics truly suggesting that Zimmerman ran someone off the road in order to stage a rescue?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

It's just as likely, in the least, than the timing of Zimmerman being released, and in his first few days to do whatever he wants without the ankle bracelet, he miraculously finds this crash.

Zimmerman could have easily drove in any lull in the traffic on the freeway and simply waited for the correct victim alone to drive by him and pit them. If he sped up carefully and nudged the SUV's rear-end, the driver wouldn't have known for sure what happened. Another coincidence is that it was an SUV, which are the most likely vehicles to roll easily. Another coincidence was there were no independent witnesses. Sound familiar?

Zimmerman had not only the motive to act as a patrol again and to look like a good citizen. (Assuming GZ killed Trayvon wrongfully which includes much of America) Once killers get that taste for blood, almost always they will never stop on their relentless pursuit of more. If I'm right, the trail of broken and dead bodies will betray him someday, hopefully soon. People should at least be contemplative to the potentials involved.

Similarities in crimes are often how investigators catch desperate criminals.

How much did it hurt when the railroad spike pierced your brain?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Hahahahahahaaaaa...

Thank you. You have much more effectively illuminated the extreme lunacy precipitated by the Zimmerman Derangement Syndrome than I ever could have.

First impressions are usually correct. I can see this picture of Zimmerman and how he was easily as fitting any early picture of any psycho out there.




A leopard cannot change his spots.

My first impression of you was that the aliens impregnated your mother, rather than just examining her, during her abduction.

My God, you're right! First impressions ARE usually correct!

 

[Cecilie1200]

I've known lots of 'regular' guys. They don't have past problems with the police or have been the subject of a restraining order. They don't have cousins accusing them of sexual molestation that went on for years. They aren't under the care of psychiatrists and counselors and aren't on anti-depressants. They don't lie to the court about how much money they have so they don't have to pay a high bail. They don't carry around concealed weapons. The fact he gained 100 pounds in a year illustrates how emotionally/mentally unbalanced he is. Zimmerman was a disaster waiting to happen. A nut case. Everything about him shouts nut case, unreliable, someone whose veracity is always questionable. That this 'accident' happened just at the right time to turn him into a hero (he thought the other incident was going to) is very suspect. It's far too coincidental and convenient.

Man, the lengths that you liberals will go to "get" George Zimmerman is scary. The guy gained all that weight because he's cowering inside somewhere because he's frightened some loon like you will attack him. You all act like a lynch mob...and then you say that Zimmerman is a "nut case" because he's afraid of you?

What this latest accident points out is the even after all he's gone through, George Zimmerman STILL cares enough about others to try and help them. Quite frankly, Esmerelda...we need MORE George Zimmerman's and fewer you's.

LOL Oh, thanks. I've never murdered anyone. We need more murderers? More trigger happy, gun toting folks on prescription anti-depressants? More people who blow away unarmed, innocent civilians? Really? How about I get armed and go after you, as you need more people like Zimmerman, armed and dangerous?

What a coincidence. George Zimmerman never "murdered" anyone, either . . . or did you miss that whole "acquitted" thing? Need me to define the word "acquitted" for you, twerp?

I know you're sitting there right now, puffed up with self-rigteousness, but I have to tell you that, no matter how much you protest that George Zimmerman is scum and beneath you and EVERYONE should agree with your half-assed, never-saw-an-iota-of-trial-evidence ignorant ass, I would STILL prefer to live next door to George Zimmerman than to have YOU living within five miles of me. And nothing you say will EVER make you a preferable and more desirable human being than he is.

Marinate in that for a while, turkey.

 

[R.D.]

Faster than you SPLC Klansmen can make up "White Hispanic?"

show me one post where I said "white hispanic".

 

[Cecilie1200]

LOL Oh, thanks. I've never murdered anyone. We need more murderers? More trigger happy, gun toting folks on prescription anti-depressants? More people who blow away unarmed, innocent civilians? Really? How about I get armed and go after you, as you need more people like Zimmerman, armed and dangerous?

Since I don't commit assault and battery against people I'm not worried about George Zimmerman, Esmerelda. George didn't blow away an "innocent civilian"...he shot a thug wannabe who viciously attacked him for no reason. It's sad what happened that night. A life was wasted. Not by George Zimmerman's actions but by Trayvon Martin's. What he did was criminal but beyond that...it was stupid.

No, Trayvon did nothing wrong at all. What Zimmerman did was criminal and stupid and one day, one way or another, he will pay.

"Fuck the court system! Fuck criminal justice and juries! I KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED, AND EVERYONE MUST BOW DOWN TO MEEEEE!!!"

The more you talk, the better George Zimmerman looks.