The real reason the left is so enamored by BRUCE Jenner's so called "bravery" and so celebrated.

[Moonglow]

Notice how Jenner goes from mediocre man with failed plastic surgery... To wanna be female sex kitten. A HUGE extreme.

He didn't want to just be a woman. He wants the same attention his step daughters are able to achieve.

The man has major issues. And doesn't need surgery. He needs mental help.

That's another interesting theory. Attention seeking. I wonder if such a thing can devolve to the point where a person would do things like this for the attention? There are SO many things this could be related to. I wonder if the psychiatric community is actively looking into all possibilities?

I am sure he has had counseling.......but it is not anymore a state of dis-association with oneself, than religious images of schizophrenia scenes from Moses...

 

[Moonglow]

The harm is not in this single act but the general "trend" in this direction of our society.

Call it outdate or whatever, but, societies in the past have been just as liberal if not more so, and they died.

People flat out refuse to learn from history, because their selfish desires take over and they rationalize that we will all get along and love one other and live in peace and harmony - by some man made plan. Not going to happen, again WAKE UP!

So you are resisting sex change because you are sacrificing for the nation?

 

[Bonzi]

The "Left" doesn't believe in any kind of sacrifice for the "greater good" - what he did is entirely selfish and self-serving. The Left is also notorious for this, thinking sexual wants and desires trump all other agendas. Guess what, there is more to your "person" than your sexual orientation and desires. WAKE TF UP!

Duggars believed in that also, and keeping it in the family...good Christian GOP morals and family structure, you guys have it cornered...

There are going to be examples of failure everywhere. But this country was in much better shape financially and patriotically 60 plus years ago. It's now rapidly going down the tubes, and, neither Republican or Democrat is any good, the entire system is corrupt and flawed.

 

[rdean]

It is just like everything else they celebrate. It is not about how much they respect it, or think it is "brave."

This is yet another clever poignant way they can throw dirt in the eye of the Christian conservative right.

That, is all, this hype, is about.

I often say the left stands for nothing. Well, they don't, with the exception of ONE thing. They are totally and completely unified in finding ways to throw dirt, stick a thumb, and utterly destroy the Christian right conservative. Along with the free market system that provides we the people with choice, but that is about the democrats.

The perverted, pathetic, godless left is more about and totally unified in what I mentioned. That, is really about it.

That's probably part of the reason. It's fun to freak out the right by celebrating people they hate. And look at what Jenner did. He exists. That's enough to make the right want to go to war. How dare "she".

 

[ChrisL]

Notice how Jenner goes from mediocre man with failed plastic surgery... To wanna be female sex kitten. A HUGE extreme.

He didn't want to just be a woman. He wants the same attention his step daughters are able to achieve.

The man has major issues. And doesn't need surgery. He needs mental help.

That's another interesting theory. Attention seeking. I wonder if such a thing can devolve to the point where a person would do things like this for the attention? There are SO many things this could be related to. I wonder if the psychiatric community is actively looking into all possibilities?

I am sure he has had counseling.......but it is not anymore a state of dis-association with oneself, than religious images of schizophrenia scenes from Moses...

Sure, but we all know that there are plenty of cases of religious preoccupation that are directly related to mental illnesses. This is a known fact.

 

[Moonglow]

The "Left" doesn't believe in any kind of sacrifice for the "greater good" - what he did is entirely selfish and self-serving. The Left is also notorious for this, thinking sexual wants and desires trump all other agendas. Guess what, there is more to your "person" than your sexual orientation and desires. WAKE TF UP!

Duggars believed in that also, and keeping it in the family...good Christian GOP morals and family structure, you guys have it cornered...

There are going to be examples of failure everywhere. But this country was in much better shape financially and patriotically 60 plus years ago. It's now rapidly going down the tubes, and, neither Republican or Democrat is any good, the entire system is corrupt and flawed.

A manufacturing monopoly sure helped........not the sexual orientation of the workers....

 

[Bonzi]

The harm is not in this single act but the general "trend" in this direction of our society.

Call it outdate or whatever, but, societies in the past have been just as liberal if not more so, and they died.

People flat out refuse to learn from history, because their selfish desires take over and they rationalize that we will all get along and love one other and live in peace and harmony - by some man made plan. Not going to happen, again WAKE UP!

So you are resisting sex change because you are sacrificing for the nation?

Deal with the body you were born with. this has to impact his family, sets a horrible example, and yes, resist sex change. It's not normal, natural or healthy

 

[mdk]

People are free to support or not support Jenner for whatever reasons they wish. Jenner's actions doesn't any bearing on my life so I am taking a live and let approach to this story.

Fine, but I am curious by nature, and I wonder how damaging encouraging this type of bodily mutilation really is . . . or how beneficial? I wonder if the psychiatric community has caved to PC in removing this from the DSM list of diagnoses? Or if perhaps they can't find any effective "treatments" for it, so they have decided to declassify it as a legitimate psychiatric diagnosis for the time being until more can be determined about this particular disorder?

I am not sure. That is a question best answered by Jenner and members of the psychiatric community. Since I am neither, I am afraid I will be of little value in this conversation.

Well, these forums are kind of more about opinions than expert input. I don't see the harm in giving opinions on this matter.

I also have wondered if these people have suffered some type of traumatic event during a very formative part of their years (whether or not they remember it - a lot of times, people can block them out and not even remember but it doesn't mean it didn't have some serious negative effects on them).

I don't see a harm in it either but I truly do not know much about the issues surrounding Jenner and transgenderism to make an informed opinion either way.

I mean transgenderism in general, not his particular case. He is an ex-celebrity/reality TV person, so of course he is bound to be a bit messed up!

I think anyone that decides to let a television crew into their home and film details of their personal life has a screw loose or two.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Bruce is a mentally unstable individual. Perfect person for the left to prop up. FREAK

 

[Bonzi]

The "Left" doesn't believe in any kind of sacrifice for the "greater good" - what he did is entirely selfish and self-serving. The Left is also notorious for this, thinking sexual wants and desires trump all other agendas. Guess what, there is more to your "person" than your sexual orientation and desires. WAKE TF UP!

Duggars believed in that also, and keeping it in the family...good Christian GOP morals and family structure, you guys have it cornered...

There are going to be examples of failure everywhere. But this country was in much better shape financially and patriotically 60 plus years ago. It's now rapidly going down the tubes, and, neither Republican or Democrat is any good, the entire system is corrupt and flawed.

A manufacturing monopoly sure helped........not the sexual orientation of the workers....

the overall society emphasis on hard work, Christian morals and decency. Since long gone...

 

[ChrisL]

It is just like everything else they celebrate. It is not about how much they respect it, or think it is "brave."

This is yet another clever poignant way they can throw dirt in the eye of the Christian conservative right.

That, is all, this hype, is about.

I often say the left stands for nothing. Well, they don't, with the exception of ONE thing. They are totally and completely unified in finding ways to throw dirt, stick a thumb, and utterly destroy the Christian right conservative. Along with the free market system that provides we the people with choice, but that is about the democrats.

The perverted, pathetic, godless left is more about and totally unified in what I mentioned. That, is really about it.

That's probably part of the reason. It's fun to freak out the right by celebrating people they hate. And look at what Jenner did. He exists. That's enough to make the right want to go to war. How dare "she".

This is normal human behavior. We tend to make fun of that which we do not understand or that which we perceive as being abnormal. It is all part of conformity because we are actually "herd" animals.

 

[Moonglow]

The harm is not in this single act but the general "trend" in this direction of our society.

Call it outdate or whatever, but, societies in the past have been just as liberal if not more so, and they died.

People flat out refuse to learn from history, because their selfish desires take over and they rationalize that we will all get along and love one other and live in peace and harmony - by some man made plan. Not going to happen, again WAKE UP!

So you are resisting sex change because you are sacrificing for the nation?

Deal with the body you were born with. this has to impact his family, sets a horrible example, and yes, resist sex change. It's not normal, natural or healthy

Then for the good of the nation ban alcohol use, trans fats, large sodas and fried foods....and tobacco

 

[deltex1]

It is just like everything else they celebrate. It is not about how much they respect it, or think it is "brave."

This is yet another clever poignant way they can throw dirt in the eye of the Christian conservative right.

That, is all, this hype, is about.

I often say the left stands for nothing. Well, they don't, with the exception of ONE thing. They are totally and completely unified in finding ways to throw dirt, stick a thumb, and utterly destroy the Christian right conservative. Along with the free market system that provides we the people with choice, but that is about the democrats.

The perverted, pathetic, godless left is more about and totally unified in what I mentioned. That, is really about it.

The libtard clowns on this board are having a raffle to see who gets Caitlyn's dick when it is removed.

 

[featherlite]

The "Left" doesn't believe in any kind of sacrifice for the "greater good" - what he did is entirely selfish and self-serving. The Left is also notorious for this, thinking sexual wants and desires trump all other agendas. Guess what, there is more to your "person" than your sexual orientation and desires. WAKE TF UP!

Duggars believed in that also, and keeping it in the family...good Christian GOP morals and family structure, you guys have it cornered...

I question anyone involved with a reality tv show.
They all put themselves up there to be "better than" or "look at me" when their personal dirt ( which every human/family has) gets dragged out and criticized by the feral public... they cry victim.
Its all a big distracting mess, one they put themselves into.

 

[Bonzi]

It is just like everything else they celebrate. It is not about how much they respect it, or think it is "brave."

This is yet another clever poignant way they can throw dirt in the eye of the Christian conservative right.

That, is all, this hype, is about.

I often say the left stands for nothing. Well, they don't, with the exception of ONE thing. They are totally and completely unified in finding ways to throw dirt, stick a thumb, and utterly destroy the Christian right conservative. Along with the free market system that provides we the people with choice, but that is about the democrats.

The perverted, pathetic, godless left is more about and totally unified in what I mentioned. That, is really about it.

That's probably part of the reason. It's fun to freak out the right by celebrating people they hate. And look at what Jenner did. He exists. That's enough to make the right want to go to war. How dare "she".

This is normal human behavior. We tend to make fun of that which we do not understand or that which we perceive as being abnormal. It is all part of conformity because we are actually "herd" animals.

Not to be made fun of. To be pitied and dealt with.

 

[Moonglow]

The "Left" doesn't believe in any kind of sacrifice for the "greater good" - what he did is entirely selfish and self-serving. The Left is also notorious for this, thinking sexual wants and desires trump all other agendas. Guess what, there is more to your "person" than your sexual orientation and desires. WAKE TF UP!

Duggars believed in that also, and keeping it in the family...good Christian GOP morals and family structure, you guys have it cornered...

There are going to be examples of failure everywhere. But this country was in much better shape financially and patriotically 60 plus years ago. It's now rapidly going down the tubes, and, neither Republican or Democrat is any good, the entire system is corrupt and flawed.

A manufacturing monopoly sure helped........not the sexual orientation of the workers....

the overall society emphasis on hard work, Christian morals and decency. Since long gone...

Oh bull shit......I still work hard and I am 53..leaving in 5 minutes to tear out insulation in a house I am remodeling....

 

[ChrisL]

It is just like everything else they celebrate. It is not about how much they respect it, or think it is "brave."

This is yet another clever poignant way they can throw dirt in the eye of the Christian conservative right.

That, is all, this hype, is about.

I often say the left stands for nothing. Well, they don't, with the exception of ONE thing. They are totally and completely unified in finding ways to throw dirt, stick a thumb, and utterly destroy the Christian right conservative. Along with the free market system that provides we the people with choice, but that is about the democrats.

The perverted, pathetic, godless left is more about and totally unified in what I mentioned. That, is really about it.

That's probably part of the reason. It's fun to freak out the right by celebrating people they hate. And look at what Jenner did. He exists. That's enough to make the right want to go to war. How dare "she".

This is normal human behavior. We tend to make fun of that which we do not understand or that which we perceive as being abnormal. It is all part of conformity because we are actually "herd" animals.

Not to be made fun of. To be pitied and dealt with.

Okay well, both then. There is plenty of fun making at these people's expense. I do it myself sometimes.

 

[Moonglow]

The "Left" doesn't believe in any kind of sacrifice for the "greater good" - what he did is entirely selfish and self-serving. The Left is also notorious for this, thinking sexual wants and desires trump all other agendas. Guess what, there is more to your "person" than your sexual orientation and desires. WAKE TF UP!

Duggars believed in that also, and keeping it in the family...good Christian GOP morals and family structure, you guys have it cornered...

I question anyone involved with a reality tv show.
They all put themselves up there to be "better than" or "look at me" when their personal dirt ( which every human/family has) gets dragged out and criticized by the feral public... they cry victim.
Its all a big distracting mess, one they put themselves into.

That is why I do not. I know that humility is healthy in that it keeps you out of the minds of others...

 

[Moonglow]

It is just like everything else they celebrate. It is not about how much they respect it, or think it is "brave."

This is yet another clever poignant way they can throw dirt in the eye of the Christian conservative right.

That, is all, this hype, is about.

I often say the left stands for nothing. Well, they don't, with the exception of ONE thing. They are totally and completely unified in finding ways to throw dirt, stick a thumb, and utterly destroy the Christian right conservative. Along with the free market system that provides we the people with choice, but that is about the democrats.

The perverted, pathetic, godless left is more about and totally unified in what I mentioned. That, is really about it.

That's probably part of the reason. It's fun to freak out the right by celebrating people they hate. And look at what Jenner did. He exists. That's enough to make the right want to go to war. How dare "she".

This is normal human behavior. We tend to make fun of that which we do not understand or that which we perceive as being abnormal. It is all part of conformity because we are actually "herd" animals.

Not to be made fun of. To be pitied and dealt with.

Okay well, both then. There is plenty of fun making at these people's expense. I do it myself sometimes.

you cad!!!

 

[Bonzi]

The "Left" doesn't believe in any kind of sacrifice for the "greater good" - what he did is entirely selfish and self-serving. The Left is also notorious for this, thinking sexual wants and desires trump all other agendas. Guess what, there is more to your "person" than your sexual orientation and desires. WAKE TF UP!

Duggars believed in that also, and keeping it in the family...good Christian GOP morals and family structure, you guys have it cornered...

There are going to be examples of failure everywhere. But this country was in much better shape financially and patriotically 60 plus years ago. It's now rapidly going down the tubes, and, neither Republican or Democrat is any good, the entire system is corrupt and flawed.

A manufacturing monopoly sure helped........not the sexual orientation of the workers....

the overall society emphasis on hard work, Christian morals and decency. Since long gone...

Oh bull shit......I still work hard and I am 53..leaving in 5 minutes to tear out insulation in a house I am remodeling....

you might be hard working, but, apparently you haven't had to deal with many businesses, doctors etc. The work ethic in this country is terrible, people doing "patch work" work because everyone is worried about their rights, their fun, their agenda...