The rich don’t pay their fair share.

[francoHFW]

When I was in the military, federal tax withholding was calculated at 28 percent. If you also had to pay state tax, then an additional 4 percent was withheld. I know these things because I worked in the Personnel office.

This is not true, none of it. The FITW for military is determined the same as for everyone else out of the military, you declare how many exemptions you have, and together with however much your adjusted gross income is, the FITW is computed. There's no way in hell a private pays the same 28% that a general might pay. And the withholding for state taxes depends on the state, it is NOT a flat 4%.

ABS may have worked in Personnel, but that ain't the same as Finance where they cover Accounting and Payments issues. There's no way in hell he or anyone else should have been privy to anyone else's pay records, let alone everybody's pay records. That's need to know stuff.

If you count all taxes, everyone in the country pays between 20 and 30% and the rich laugh all the way to the bank, brainwashed functional moron. Google the only tax graph you need to know...

 

[leecross]

We’ve heard these words thousands of times. For those that agree they don’t, what does it mean to you? If taxes go up to 70% - 90% for “rich” folks, do you feel your taxes won’t go up? Let’s say you’re income is between $38,700 - $82,500, currently paying 22%. How much should your taxes go up? Or for some reason do you feel if the rich pay more, then you’ll get more?

Do The Rich Pay Their Fair Share? - Prager U

 

[H B Lowrie]

All anyone need do is review how things were societally before when we've had at various time frames BOTH 70% and 90% marginal tax rates, there's no mystery around any of it. The corporate state is very nervous.

Yeah why don't you review it dummy. This time pay attention to the tax shelters and investment options that guaranteed the rich never paid anywhere near 70% or 90%. Then pay attention to why this was changed so that the rich would be encouraged to take risks, start new businesses, expand existing businesses, creating jobs for the middle class and wealth to fund welfare for all you mooching deadbeats.

It worked once in 1982 and has been a terrible failure ever since, super dupe. Except for bloating the super rich... And that was cutting the top rate to 50%...

LOL, what a surprise, you worked once in 1982....even better you've been a terrible failure since. I am shocked.

Our system is a failure.

Well, the other option, and more likely, is that some people are failures.

Right. If 80% of american workers are living paycheck to paycheck in our exceptional nation, then 80% of ameicans are failures. That's what we are to believe.

 

[H B Lowrie]

We’ve heard these words thousands of times. For those that agree they don’t, what does it mean to you? If taxes go up to 70% - 90% for “rich” folks, do you feel your taxes won’t go up? Let’s say you’re income is between $38,700 - $82,500, currently paying 22%. How much should your taxes go up? Or for some reason do you feel if the rich pay more, then you’ll get more?

Do The Rich Pay Their Fair Share? - Prager U

Indoctrination U.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Yeah why don't you review it dummy. This time pay attention to the tax shelters and investment options that guaranteed the rich never paid anywhere near 70% or 90%. Then pay attention to why this was changed so that the rich would be encouraged to take risks, start new businesses, expand existing businesses, creating jobs for the middle class and wealth to fund welfare for all you mooching deadbeats.

Eggzactly, and they don't even pay what they're obligated to now either. New upstart businesses are crippled in trying to compete with concentrated corporate wealth and power. The wealthy do not take risks, they bought up your media machine and your representation so they would have to.

So you don’t think people took risks to become wealthy? Seriously?

I think the entire political and economic system is fraudulent and corrupted.

So everyone who is successful stole? You’re just plain wrong. If I went to eight years of med school and residency and save lives how am I stealing? Do tell.

If you wish to assign points of view you expect someone else to argue I'm afraid you'll need to run along and find someone else to do this with. What I posted was thus:

I think the entire political and economic system is fraudulent and corrupted.

In response to your:

So you don’t think people took risks to become wealthy? Seriously?

No. Don't be so silly and naive. Not everyone who is wealthy took risks, why do you think they hate the "inheritance/estate tax" so much? They know. Some people take risks just to work for wealthy assholes.

Not everyone but most did. Why should not their kids benefit? Doesn’t make sense. Houston. None of your posts make sense.

 

[H B Lowrie]

Eggzactly, and they don't even pay what they're obligated to now either. New upstart businesses are crippled in trying to compete with concentrated corporate wealth and power. The wealthy do not take risks, they bought up your media machine and your representation so they would have to.

So you don’t think people took risks to become wealthy? Seriously?

I think the entire political and economic system is fraudulent and corrupted.

So everyone who is successful stole? You’re just plain wrong. If I went to eight years of med school and residency and save lives how am I stealing? Do tell.

If you wish to assign points of view you expect someone else to argue I'm afraid you'll need to run along and find someone else to do this with. What I posted was thus:

I think the entire political and economic system is fraudulent and corrupted.

In response to your:

So you don’t think people took risks to become wealthy? Seriously?

No. Don't be so silly and naive. Not everyone who is wealthy took risks, why do you think they hate the "inheritance/estate tax" so much? They know. Some people take risks just to work for wealthy assholes.

Not everyone but most did. Why should not their kids benefit? Doesn’t make sense. Houston. None of your posts make sense.

"Most" my ass, come up with data and peer reviewed studies, your word is shit.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

So you don’t think people took risks to become wealthy? Seriously?

I think the entire political and economic system is fraudulent and corrupted.

So everyone who is successful stole? You’re just plain wrong. If I went to eight years of med school and residency and save lives how am I stealing? Do tell.

If you wish to assign points of view you expect someone else to argue I'm afraid you'll need to run along and find someone else to do this with. What I posted was thus:

I think the entire political and economic system is fraudulent and corrupted.

In response to your:

So you don’t think people took risks to become wealthy? Seriously?

No. Don't be so silly and naive. Not everyone who is wealthy took risks, why do you think they hate the "inheritance/estate tax" so much? They know. Some people take risks just to work for wealthy assholes.

Not everyone but most did. Why should not their kids benefit? Doesn’t make sense. Houston. None of your posts make sense.

"Most" my ass, come up with data and peer reviewed studies, your word is shit.

Take a look at the current Fortune 500 CEOs. There is your data. Plus Mark Cuban, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Bob Kraft all self made. Not sure how many more examples you need Houston. Only shit here is your brains.

 

[leecross]

We’ve heard these words thousands of times. For those that agree they don’t, what does it mean to you? If taxes go up to 70% - 90% for “rich” folks, do you feel your taxes won’t go up? Let’s say you’re income is between $38,700 - $82,500, currently paying 22%. How much should your taxes go up? Or for some reason do you feel if the rich pay more, then you’ll get more?

Do The Rich Pay Their Fair Share? - Prager U

Indoctrination U.

Stumped U

And I Trumped U

 

[francoHFW]

I think the entire political and economic system is fraudulent and corrupted.

So everyone who is successful stole? You’re just plain wrong. If I went to eight years of med school and residency and save lives how am I stealing? Do tell.

If you wish to assign points of view you expect someone else to argue I'm afraid you'll need to run along and find someone else to do this with. What I posted was thus:

I think the entire political and economic system is fraudulent and corrupted.

In response to your:

So you don’t think people took risks to become wealthy? Seriously?

No. Don't be so silly and naive. Not everyone who is wealthy took risks, why do you think they hate the "inheritance/estate tax" so much? They know. Some people take risks just to work for wealthy assholes.

Not everyone but most did. Why should not their kids benefit? Doesn’t make sense. Houston. None of your posts make sense.

"Most" my ass, come up with data and peer reviewed studies, your word is shit.

Take a look at the current Fortune 500 CEOs. There is your data. Plus Mark Cuban, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Bob Kraft all self made. Not sure how many more examples you need Houston. Only shit here is your brains.

We have the worst inequality and upward Mobility ever and in the modern world after 35 years of your giveaway to the rich, brainwashed functional moron.
Economic Inequality: It’s Far Worse Than You Think

 

[francoHFW]

We’ve heard these words thousands of times. For those that agree they don’t, what does it mean to you? If taxes go up to 70% - 90% for “rich” folks, do you feel your taxes won’t go up? Let’s say you’re income is between $38,700 - $82,500, currently paying 22%. How much should your taxes go up? Or for some reason do you feel if the rich pay more, then you’ll get more?

Do The Rich Pay Their Fair Share? - Prager U

Indoctrination U.

Stumped U

And I Trumped U

Of course you are totally misinformed and brainwashed, super duper.Economic Inequality: It’s Far Worse Than You Think

 

[leecross]

So everyone who is successful stole? You’re just plain wrong. If I went to eight years of med school and residency and save lives how am I stealing? Do tell.

If you wish to assign points of view you expect someone else to argue I'm afraid you'll need to run along and find someone else to do this with. What I posted was thus:

I think the entire political and economic system is fraudulent and corrupted.

In response to your:

So you don’t think people took risks to become wealthy? Seriously?

No. Don't be so silly and naive. Not everyone who is wealthy took risks, why do you think they hate the "inheritance/estate tax" so much? They know. Some people take risks just to work for wealthy assholes.

Not everyone but most did. Why should not their kids benefit? Doesn’t make sense. Houston. None of your posts make sense.

"Most" my ass, come up with data and peer reviewed studies, your word is shit.

Take a look at the current Fortune 500 CEOs. There is your data. Plus Mark Cuban, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Bob Kraft all self made. Not sure how many more examples you need Houston. Only shit here is your brains.

We have the worst inequality and upward Mobility ever and in the modern world after 35 years of your giveaway to the rich, brainwashed functional moron.
Economic Inequality: It’s Far Worse Than You Think

Do The Rich Pay Their Fair Share? - Prager U

 

[francoHFW]

I think the entire political and economic system is fraudulent and corrupted.

So everyone who is successful stole? You’re just plain wrong. If I went to eight years of med school and residency and save lives how am I stealing? Do tell.

If you wish to assign points of view you expect someone else to argue I'm afraid you'll need to run along and find someone else to do this with. What I posted was thus:

I think the entire political and economic system is fraudulent and corrupted.

In response to your:

So you don’t think people took risks to become wealthy? Seriously?

No. Don't be so silly and naive. Not everyone who is wealthy took risks, why do you think they hate the "inheritance/estate tax" so much? They know. Some people take risks just to work for wealthy assholes.

Not everyone but most did. Why should not their kids benefit? Doesn’t make sense. Houston. None of your posts make sense.

"Most" my ass, come up with data and peer reviewed studies, your word is shit.

Take a look at the current Fortune 500 CEOs. There is your data. Plus Mark Cuban, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Bob Kraft all self made. Not sure how many more examples you need Houston. Only shit here is your brains.

The exceptions that prove the rule....Economic Inequality: It’s Far Worse Than You Think

 

[H B Lowrie]

So everyone who is successful stole? You’re just plain wrong. If I went to eight years of med school and residency and save lives how am I stealing? Do tell.

If you wish to assign points of view you expect someone else to argue I'm afraid you'll need to run along and find someone else to do this with. What I posted was thus:

I think the entire political and economic system is fraudulent and corrupted.

In response to your:

So you don’t think people took risks to become wealthy? Seriously?

No. Don't be so silly and naive. Not everyone who is wealthy took risks, why do you think they hate the "inheritance/estate tax" so much? They know. Some people take risks just to work for wealthy assholes.

Not everyone but most did. Why should not their kids benefit? Doesn’t make sense. Houston. None of your posts make sense.

"Most" my ass, come up with data and peer reviewed studies, your word is shit.

Take a look at the current Fortune 500 CEOs. There is your data. Plus Mark Cuban, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Bob Kraft all self made. Not sure how many more examples you need Houston. Only shit here is your brains.

We have the worst inequality and upward Mobility ever and in the modern world after 35 years of your giveaway to the rich, brainwashed functional moron.
Economic Inequality: It’s Far Worse Than You Think

That's the plan.


Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class.
Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expense for the "job creator" class.
Socialism for the aristocracy versus austerity/laissez-faire capitalism for the masses.

 

[task0778]

When I was in the military, federal tax withholding was calculated at 28 percent. If you also had to pay state tax, then an additional 4 percent was withheld. I know these things because I worked in the Personnel office.

This is not true, none of it. The FITW for military is determined the same as for everyone else out of the military, you declare how many exemptions you have, and together with however much your adjusted gross income is, the FITW is computed. There's no way in hell a private pays the same 28% that a general might pay. And the withholding for state taxes depends on the state, it is NOT a flat 4%.

ABS may have worked in Personnel, but that ain't the same as Finance where they cover Accounting and Payments issues. There's no way in hell he or anyone else should have been privy to anyone else's pay records, let alone everybody's pay records. That's need to know stuff.

Wanna bet? I did all the calculations for a persons pay (advancements, selective reenlistment bonuses, etc.), sent that to the Disbursing office, where they annotated it on the LES (Leave and Earnings Statement). And, I would check to make sure that the things were processed when I verified the Enlisted Distribution and Verification Report when it arrived monthly. And, when I was on the USNS CONCORD (T-AFS-5), I was the ONLY admin type onboard to take care of 35 personnel. Sorry, but you know nothing about what a PN did.

Maybe you set the initial value until the FITW would be set to the correct final value by the Navy's Finance office, whatever you call it. No way in hell is every military member's FITW always 28%, there's no way dude. 2 guys in the same rank, one guy get a $10,000 re-up bonus and other guy doesn't but they both have the same 28% FITW? Or one guy is single and the other guy is married and has 6 kids? An Admiral and an E-1, same FITW? Bullshit, you might have filled in the empty value if their pay status changed somehow, but that value would not remain the same for long.

Just wondering, did you do the exact same thing ashore? You filled in the FITW yourself, didn't send it over to the finance office? How do you know whatever you initially entered wasn't updated to the correct amount at a later date? Cuz you GOTTA know that most guys don't need to have 28% FITW.

 

[francoHFW]

If you wish to assign points of view you expect someone else to argue I'm afraid you'll need to run along and find someone else to do this with. What I posted was thus:

I think the entire political and economic system is fraudulent and corrupted.

In response to your:

So you don’t think people took risks to become wealthy? Seriously?

No. Don't be so silly and naive. Not everyone who is wealthy took risks, why do you think they hate the "inheritance/estate tax" so much? They know. Some people take risks just to work for wealthy assholes.

Not everyone but most did. Why should not their kids benefit? Doesn’t make sense. Houston. None of your posts make sense.

"Most" my ass, come up with data and peer reviewed studies, your word is shit.

Take a look at the current Fortune 500 CEOs. There is your data. Plus Mark Cuban, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Bob Kraft all self made. Not sure how many more examples you need Houston. Only shit here is your brains.

We have the worst inequality and upward Mobility ever and in the modern world after 35 years of your giveaway to the rich, brainwashed functional moron.
Economic Inequality: It’s Far Worse Than You Think

Do The Rich Pay Their Fair Share? - Prager U

Bulshit propaganda, super duper.Economic Inequality: It’s Far Worse Than You Think

 

[leecross]

We’ve heard these words thousands of times. For those that agree they don’t, what does it mean to you? If taxes go up to 70% - 90% for “rich” folks, do you feel your taxes won’t go up? Let’s say you’re income is between $38,700 - $82,500, currently paying 22%. How much should your taxes go up? Or for some reason do you feel if the rich pay more, then you’ll get more?

Do The Rich Pay Their Fair Share? - Prager U

Indoctrination U.

Stumped U

And I Trumped U

Of course you are totally misinformed and brainwashed, super duper.Economic Inequality: It’s Far Worse Than You Think

Income Inequality is Good - Prager U

 

[ABikerSailor]

When I was in the military, federal tax withholding was calculated at 28 percent. If you also had to pay state tax, then an additional 4 percent was withheld. I know these things because I worked in the Personnel office.

This is not true, none of it. The FITW for military is determined the same as for everyone else out of the military, you declare how many exemptions you have, and together with however much your adjusted gross income is, the FITW is computed. There's no way in hell a private pays the same 28% that a general might pay. And the withholding for state taxes depends on the state, it is NOT a flat 4%.

ABS may have worked in Personnel, but that ain't the same as Finance where they cover Accounting and Payments issues. There's no way in hell he or anyone else should have been privy to anyone else's pay records, let alone everybody's pay records. That's need to know stuff.

Wanna bet? I did all the calculations for a persons pay (advancements, selective reenlistment bonuses, etc.), sent that to the Disbursing office, where they annotated it on the LES (Leave and Earnings Statement). And, I would check to make sure that the things were processed when I verified the Enlisted Distribution and Verification Report when it arrived monthly. And, when I was on the USNS CONCORD (T-AFS-5), I was the ONLY admin type onboard to take care of 35 personnel. Sorry, but you know nothing about what a PN did.

Maybe you set the initial value until the FITW would be set to the correct final value by the Navy's Finance office, whatever you call it. No way in hell is every military member's FITW always 28%, there's no way dude. 2 guys in the same rank, one guy get a $10,000 re-up bonus and other guy doesn't but they both have the same 28% FITW? Or one guy is single and the other guy is married and has 6 kids? An Admiral and an E-1, same FITW? Bullshit, you might have filled in the empty value if their pay status changed somehow, but that value would not remain the same for long.

You know, there were a couple of times that I was on PCS leave and needed to get paid in transit, so I went to the AF base at my hometown (Malmstrom AFB in Great Falls MT). Well, first I went to one clerk, who looked and verified that I hadn't been paid yet. He then sent me to another clerk who did the calculations for my paycheck, who sent me to another clerk to have it verified. After that, it was signed off by the supervisor, who then sent me to the pay office to get my money. I had to see a total of 5 different people to get paid by the Air Force. If that had been a Navy office, it would have taken 2 people. The PN to verify that pay is owed, and the DK to pay them. But, then again, people in the Navy have more than just one job, and many rates in the Navy can cover several jobs in other services. Why do we do that? Because you can always annex land and build a bigger base. You can't do that with the ocean, and ships cost money to modify living spaces.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

So everyone who is successful stole? You’re just plain wrong. If I went to eight years of med school and residency and save lives how am I stealing? Do tell.

If you wish to assign points of view you expect someone else to argue I'm afraid you'll need to run along and find someone else to do this with. What I posted was thus:

I think the entire political and economic system is fraudulent and corrupted.

In response to your:

So you don’t think people took risks to become wealthy? Seriously?

No. Don't be so silly and naive. Not everyone who is wealthy took risks, why do you think they hate the "inheritance/estate tax" so much? They know. Some people take risks just to work for wealthy assholes.

Not everyone but most did. Why should not their kids benefit? Doesn’t make sense. Houston. None of your posts make sense.

"Most" my ass, come up with data and peer reviewed studies, your word is shit.

Take a look at the current Fortune 500 CEOs. There is your data. Plus Mark Cuban, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Bob Kraft all self made. Not sure how many more examples you need Houston. Only shit here is your brains.

We have the worst inequality and upward Mobility ever and in the modern world after 35 years of your giveaway to the rich, brainwashed functional moron.
Economic Inequality: It’s Far Worse Than You Think

Everyone has equal rights. Not sure what you mean by inequality?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

If you wish to assign points of view you expect someone else to argue I'm afraid you'll need to run along and find someone else to do this with. What I posted was thus:

I think the entire political and economic system is fraudulent and corrupted.

In response to your:

So you don’t think people took risks to become wealthy? Seriously?

No. Don't be so silly and naive. Not everyone who is wealthy took risks, why do you think they hate the "inheritance/estate tax" so much? They know. Some people take risks just to work for wealthy assholes.

Not everyone but most did. Why should not their kids benefit? Doesn’t make sense. Houston. None of your posts make sense.

"Most" my ass, come up with data and peer reviewed studies, your word is shit.

Take a look at the current Fortune 500 CEOs. There is your data. Plus Mark Cuban, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Bob Kraft all self made. Not sure how many more examples you need Houston. Only shit here is your brains.

We have the worst inequality and upward Mobility ever and in the modern world after 35 years of your giveaway to the rich, brainwashed functional moron.
Economic Inequality: It’s Far Worse Than You Think

That's the plan.


Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class.
Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expense for the "job creator" class.
Socialism for the aristocracy versus austerity/laissez-faire capitalism for the masses.

Another Yoda post. What are you trying to say?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Not everyone but most did. Why should not their kids benefit? Doesn’t make sense. Houston. None of your posts make sense.

"Most" my ass, come up with data and peer reviewed studies, your word is shit.

Take a look at the current Fortune 500 CEOs. There is your data. Plus Mark Cuban, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Bob Kraft all self made. Not sure how many more examples you need Houston. Only shit here is your brains.

We have the worst inequality and upward Mobility ever and in the modern world after 35 years of your giveaway to the rich, brainwashed functional moron.
Economic Inequality: It’s Far Worse Than You Think

Do The Rich Pay Their Fair Share? - Prager U

Bulshit propaganda, super duper.Economic Inequality: It’s Far Worse Than You Think

Again everyone has equal rights. I am Happy. Don’t care how much Bill Gates makes.