The Socialism boogeyman

[Mac1958]

The right wing in America has used the term Socialism as a scare tactic for decades, but it's not working anymore. The American economy has functioned with a mixture of Socialism and Capitalism for many years i.e the hundreds of billions in free money the American government pays out to corporate America as subsidies, grants and other corporate welfare goodies are a pure form of Socialism. One could also make the case that tax credits, automatic rollover defence contracts and Federal Deposit insurance are also forms of Socialism. Millennials now associate Socialism with Scandinavia, and not the old USSR.

America has cooled a little on capitalism. This is hardly surprising when you consider how the American form of Capitalism has failed ordinary Americans. The poorest men in the US have the same life expectancy as men in Sudan. Maternal mortality more than doubled between 1991 and 2014. The middle class has shrunk. People are desperate for an alternative to an increasingly dismal status quo.

Sorry Republicans - Your Socialism boogeyman is not scaring people anymore.

Why are Americans warming to socialism? Because capitalism has failed them | Arwa Mahdawi

The S-word is something of a red herring – what many voters want is a change from the dismal status quo, writes Arwa Mahdawi

www.theguardian.com

They used "socialist" for a long time, and finally realized that, not only did it no longer scare anybody, but it probably backfired and made many people more interesting in hearing about socialism. Too funny.

They stuck on Marxism for a time, and now they're pretty much stuck on "commie" and communism, like modern-day Archie Bunkers.

I've also seen them say that the devil himself is involved, and I very much wonder where they take it from here. I mean, where the hell (no pun intended) can they go from here?

Of course, all they're doing is scaring themselves and each other, as usual, while the rest of us smile and roll our eyes.

The populace has been indoctrinated for years that capitalism is unjust and the Founding Fathers were slave owners, thus the country and Constitution needs to go and be replaced by socialism.

But the history of Marxism is never taught in terms of the death and destruction it has caused, murdering and oppressing millions more last century than any other ideology.

So with such vast ignorance, no wonder the term no longer scares them.

Not to mention the gross misapplication of capitalism by the ignorant Right, which has played completely into everything the Left is doing.

That's led to the inequities and fraud that has turned so many people away from capitalism.

The REAL socialists should be sending the Right Thank You cards.

“Inequities”...hahaha
You have to rid yourself of that hardcore case of the FEELZ and come to the realization that people are not equals. Once you do you will stop your sneaky justification for the demand of free shit/socialism.

Of course people are not equals. That's exactly the point.

Look, I don't expect you to understand this.

Haha...spin, spin, spin
Capitalism doesn’t create inequities....biology/genetics/DNA does.
I don’t expect you to understand this because it’s some scary shit to admit.

I'm very tempted to explain fully, but I know better.

I'm a commie Hitler Nazi. Just run with that.

 

[JakeStarkey]

 

[BrokeLoser]

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Your shiny repackaging looks neat and gimmicky as all hell....but let’s just post the definition and remove all the gray area...shall we?


so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun

1. a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

 

[JakeStarkey]

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Your shiny repackaging looks neat and gimmicky as all hell....but let’s just post the definition and remove all the gray area...shall we?


so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun

1. a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

Is the local fire dept not owned by the community as whole by the government?

 

[dblack]

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Your shiny repackaging looks neat and gimmicky as all hell....but let’s just post the definition and remove all the gray area...shall we?


so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun

1. a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

But most socialists these days soft-sell it with "Democratic Socialism". Here's how they define it:

What is Democratic Socialism?

Democratic socialists believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically—to meet public needs, not to make profits for a few. To achieve a more just society, many structures of our government and economy must be radically transformed through greater economic and social democracy so that ordinary Americans can participate in the many decisions that affect our lives.

Yes, they want "both the economy and society" run democratically. That's seriously fucked up. That means they want government to control pretty much everything. No thanks.

 

[BrokeLoser]

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Your shiny repackaging looks neat and gimmicky as all hell....but let’s just post the definition and remove all the gray area...shall we?


so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun

1. a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

Is the local fire dept not owned by the community as whole by the government?

I’ll play...AGAIN.
See, the mistake you beggars make is in conflating public investments for the GENERAL WELFARE of the citizenry with paying Guadalupe to expand her litter of silver tooth filth.
You beggars refuse to make the elementary distinction between Guadalupe and the fire department.
TA-DA!
What else can I teach you?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Broke Loser does not understand just how the PD or FD or the military or the city bus system is organized. On ignore.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Broke Loser does not understand just how the PD or FD or the military or the city bus system is organized. On ignore.

So typical of LefTardos...
“Say what I want you to say and I will honor your freedom of speech.”
These are your chosen associates Mac1958 ......hahaha

 

[Norman]

Socialism is Satanism.

And we should have zero Satanism.

It is pure anti-Americanism, it has no place in this nation. Maybe in some other nation where people are addicted to misery and abuse.

 

[Norman]

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National socialists are not socialist?

Ok... whoever made the stupid meme is not very smart, but is quite likely very evil.

 

[Mac-7]

They used "socialist" for a long time, and finally realized that, not only did it no longer scare anybody, but it probably backfired and made many people more interesting in hearing about socialism. Too funny.

Socialism scares everyone who knows what it means

which is that not everyone has to contribute to their own needs

Under socislism if someone does not want to work they dont have to

 

[Mac1958]

They used "socialist" for a long time, and finally realized that, not only did it no longer scare anybody, but it probably backfired and made many people more interesting in hearing about socialism. Too funny.

Socialism scares everyone who knows what it means

which is that not everyone has to contribute to their own needs

Under socislism if someone does not want to work they dont have to

... and you guys tell each other that Democrats want us to be like Venezuela.

That's because you have been conned. You have been fooled. Led astray.

Maybe one day you'll figure that out. Probably not any time soon, though.

 

[bripat9643]

They used "socialist" for a long time, and finally realized that, not only did it no longer scare anybody, but it probably backfired and made many people more interesting in hearing about socialism. Too funny.

Socialism scares everyone who knows what it means

which is that not everyone has to contribute to their own needs

Under socislism if someone does not want to work they dont have to

... and you guys tell each other that Democrats want us to be like Venezuela.

That's because you have been conned. You have been fooled. Led astray.

Maybe one day you'll figure that out. Probably not any time soon, though.

You endorse the same policies as Venezuela, but you pretend that won't give the same results.

Who do you think you're fooling?

 

[Mac1958]

They used "socialist" for a long time, and finally realized that, not only did it no longer scare anybody, but it probably backfired and made many people more interesting in hearing about socialism. Too funny.

Socialism scares everyone who knows what it means

which is that not everyone has to contribute to their own needs

Under socislism if someone does not want to work they dont have to

... and you guys tell each other that Democrats want us to be like Venezuela.

That's because you have been conned. You have been fooled. Led astray.

Maybe one day you'll figure that out. Probably not any time soon, though.

You endorse the same policies as Venezuela, but you pretend that won't give the same results.

Who do you think you're fooling?

Quote me, please. Back up your words.

I'll wait here.

 

[JakeStarkey]

No one wants the US to be like Venezuela, and M4All will not do so, not even a teensy bit.

 

[westwall]

The right wing in America has used the term Socialism as a scare tactic for decades, but it's not working anymore. The American economy has functioned with a mixture of Socialism and Capitalism for many years i.e the hundreds of billions in free money the American government pays out to corporate America as subsidies, grants and other corporate welfare goodies are a pure form of Socialism. One could also make the case that tax credits, automatic rollover defence contracts and Federal Deposit insurance are also forms of Socialism. Millennials now associate Socialism with Scandinavia, and not the old USSR.

America has cooled a little on capitalism. This is hardly surprising when you consider how the American form of Capitalism has failed ordinary Americans. The poorest men in the US have the same life expectancy as men in Sudan. Maternal mortality more than doubled between 1991 and 2014. The middle class has shrunk. People are desperate for an alternative to an increasingly dismal status quo.

Sorry Republicans - Your Socialism boogeyman is not scaring people anymore.

Why are Americans warming to socialism? Because capitalism has failed them | Arwa Mahdawi

The S-word is something of a red herring – what many voters want is a change from the dismal status quo, writes Arwa Mahdawi

www.theguardian.com

They used "socialist" for a long time, and finally realized that, not only did it no longer scare anybody, but it probably backfired and made many people more interesting in hearing about socialism. Too funny.

They stuck on Marxism for a time, and now they're pretty much stuck on "commie" and communism, like modern-day Archie Bunkers.

I've also seen them say that the devil himself is involved, and I very much wonder where they take it from here. I mean, where the hell (no pun intended) can they go from here?

Of course, all they're doing is scaring themselves and each other, as usual, while the rest of us smile and roll our eyes.

Consider the benefits to the planet brought by Marxism-based governments just in the 20th Century.

Start with over 100,000,000 dead only by two leaders. You can add the rest in later.

Keep smiling. You won't win here.

But I'm fully against Marxism. I'm a happy capitalist .

Keep trying. You won't win here.

What distinction do you draw between Marxism and socialism?

As for BLM, they claim to be Marxist but seem to support everything that is socialist.

I don't give a shit.

I'm against them both.

Well if you are not willing to explore what these terms mean, how can you intelligently talk about them?

Or do you want to be like this socialist who first begins to talk as if she knows what the hell she is talking about, but when confronted with knowing what she is talking about, realizes she is an idiot.



I would have to say that the ignorance of those promoting socialism should not be surprising, because only an ignorant person or fool would.

Talk to them about it. Maybe they'll thank you for all your help.

Once again no intellectual interest in the debate you entered. I find this pattern perplexing.


Very odd

That's because he claims to not be a socialist, but every post he makes is tacit support for socialism.

 

[Mac1958]

The right wing in America has used the term Socialism as a scare tactic for decades, but it's not working anymore. The American economy has functioned with a mixture of Socialism and Capitalism for many years i.e the hundreds of billions in free money the American government pays out to corporate America as subsidies, grants and other corporate welfare goodies are a pure form of Socialism. One could also make the case that tax credits, automatic rollover defence contracts and Federal Deposit insurance are also forms of Socialism. Millennials now associate Socialism with Scandinavia, and not the old USSR.

America has cooled a little on capitalism. This is hardly surprising when you consider how the American form of Capitalism has failed ordinary Americans. The poorest men in the US have the same life expectancy as men in Sudan. Maternal mortality more than doubled between 1991 and 2014. The middle class has shrunk. People are desperate for an alternative to an increasingly dismal status quo.

Sorry Republicans - Your Socialism boogeyman is not scaring people anymore.

Why are Americans warming to socialism? Because capitalism has failed them | Arwa Mahdawi

The S-word is something of a red herring – what many voters want is a change from the dismal status quo, writes Arwa Mahdawi

www.theguardian.com

They used "socialist" for a long time, and finally realized that, not only did it no longer scare anybody, but it probably backfired and made many people more interesting in hearing about socialism. Too funny.

They stuck on Marxism for a time, and now they're pretty much stuck on "commie" and communism, like modern-day Archie Bunkers.

I've also seen them say that the devil himself is involved, and I very much wonder where they take it from here. I mean, where the hell (no pun intended) can they go from here?

Of course, all they're doing is scaring themselves and each other, as usual, while the rest of us smile and roll our eyes.

Consider the benefits to the planet brought by Marxism-based governments just in the 20th Century.

Start with over 100,000,000 dead only by two leaders. You can add the rest in later.

Keep smiling. You won't win here.

But I'm fully against Marxism. I'm a happy capitalist .

Keep trying. You won't win here.

What distinction do you draw between Marxism and socialism?

As for BLM, they claim to be Marxist but seem to support everything that is socialist.

I don't give a shit.

I'm against them both.

Well if you are not willing to explore what these terms mean, how can you intelligently talk about them?

Or do you want to be like this socialist who first begins to talk as if she knows what the hell she is talking about, but when confronted with knowing what she is talking about, realizes she is an idiot.



I would have to say that the ignorance of those promoting socialism should not be surprising, because only an ignorant person or fool would.

Talk to them about it. Maybe they'll thank you for all your help.

Once again no intellectual interest in the debate you entered. I find this pattern perplexing.


Very odd

That's because he claims to not be a socialist, but every post he makes is tacit support for socialism.

And here's another one.

Quote me, please. Back up your words.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Here is a simple graphic to help us remember that America is not socialist and not near becoming a socialist state.

 

[Mac-7]

and you guys tell each other that Democrats want us to be like Venezuela.

But you with all your vast superior knowledge know that dems will lead America to a Norway-style socialist nirvana

sorry, I’m not that gullible

 

[Mac1958]

and you guys tell each other that Democrats want us to be like Venezuela.

But you with all your vast superior knowledge know that dems will lead America to a Norway-style socialist nirvana

sorry, I’m not that gullible

And yet another one.

Quote me, please. Back up your words.

Waiting on three (3) of you now.