The Texas lawsuit and the possible end of our republic.

[SC Patriot]

I have faith in our Conservative court to not only reject this ridiculous claim but to admonish EVERY Republican who endorses it.

Why should Republicans be "admonished" for protesting against stolen elections? There is really little point in spending the time or money to run for office if you are going to be swindled.

Further, no one will contribute to an election campaign that has no chance of succeeding because of fraud.

Because it wasn't stolen. For the first time in many election cycles, the Republican tactic of voter suppression was largely removed. Granted, it was because of the pandemic (which I'd like to point out was made worse by the lack of response from the WH and impeded by the Republican party). Individual states made their own election rules. It is up to the state to set those rules. If you truly believe in the Constitution, then you believe in state's rights. If not, it's just bullshit talk. You believe in selective interpretation. For the SC to rule in Texas favor, it would have to throw out and invalidate millions of legally cast votes. Straight up voter disenfranchisement. It's bad enough that the Republican party engages in voter suppression and gerrymandering, but this?...is straight up theft..and sedition.

fingers in the ear saying...."la la la la la la la"
How is making a person vote in person and prove they are eligible to vote voter surpression?

States made the election rules. There are states that have used mail in voting for years without incident. The military has used it for decades.
Voting in person (especially during a pandemic) may not be possible for everyone. Hence, a way for Republicans to practice voter suppression.
Everyone who cast a vote was eligible. 73 million of the morons voted for Trump.

Your man lost. And you're pissed. I get it. But this behavior is just un-American.

You just like mail in voting because it makes it easier to cheat, and you know your side has no issues with cheating.

Cry me a river. Trump lost. This extended temper tantrum is unseemly. There was no evidence of voter fraud. Federal and state officials (Republican and Democrat) have stated this was the smoothest and most secure election in years. All lawsuits have been thrown out. You're mad because your man lost. Tell me, what is so special about Donald John Trump that you are willing to sacrifice your honor, your intelligence, and your integrity? It really is perplexing to me.

The people who benefit from the cheating say there is no cheating, and the people responsible for making sure there is no cheating are saying there is no cheating. Sorry, but since we all know people like you are dishonest hacks that will stop at nothing to win I will not take your or their word for it.

The issue is assholes like you think you can get away with it, that's the issue. You are liars and cheats.

It's too bad. I don't where in the Trump orbit in the last five years that people like you turned from just being amusing at sheer loyalty of sheep to a shepard into a collection of metasasizing cancers?
There's no evidence of widespread voter fraud in any state. Every lawsuit brought forth so far has been dismissed out of hand. Yet here you are, still bleating like a sheep because the idiot you backed lost.
He blew the response to the pandemic so the voters showed him the door. But, you slink down into your alt-right media and your social media clutches and cluck like the fucking hens you are until you
become convinced that something happened here..that didn't. In other words, no matter your protestation, you and the rest of Trump Nation have lost the ability to think for yourselves.

Your assimilation is complete. So I reiterate. You Trump supporters are the dumbest, most ignorant, and most low information voting bloc I've seen rise in my lifetime.

 

[bripat9643]

We are rapidly swirling down the toilet bowl to a one party state.

After one election, in which the Democrats did pretty poorly outside the WH.

You guys need to get a grip. Your drama queen meltdowns are tedious.

They will pack the court, open the floodgates to illegal immigration, and create two new states with Democrat Senators.

You know this, of course, which is the proof that you're a douchebag.

 

[Mac1958]

So you want the court to hand over the election to trump correct? Not a redo, no chance for the other side. I am soooooooooooooo happy I don't align myself with either party. It feels soooo patriotic.

I swear, watching this stuff is like watching professional wrestling. How people buy into it is a mystery.

Just to be clear....if there is a move made by a state, or states that is in direct breach of the constitution, that is OK? Now lets see what happened. The constitution as well as state constitutions of those involved makes it clear that only legislative bodies may amend. But the states in question did not abide by the constitution nor did they abide by their own states constitution.
Now, you may so ...who the hell cares.
Good for you.
But...it is one thing to interpret the constitution where there are grey areas. I get it.
But when the constitution is precise, and word for word it says (paraphrased)....Governors and courts can not defy the constitution, and only legislators can......that is not against the constitution when non legislators defy the constitution?

Someone has to make the final decisions, and that's usually the courts.

It's a shame that they've been clogged by this weird Trumpian fantasy, but I'm confident they'll throw this crap out.

 

[Mac1958]

We are rapidly swirling down the toilet bowl to a one party state.

After one election, in which the Democrats did pretty poorly outside the WH.

You guys need to get a grip. Your drama queen meltdowns are tedious.

They will pack the court, open the floodgates to illegal immigration, and create two new states with Democrat Senators.

You know this, of course, which is the proof that you're a douchebag.

Okay, well, you guys know the future, so I guess we're going full commie soon.

 

[martybegan]

I have faith in our Conservative court to not only reject this ridiculous claim but to admonish EVERY Republican who endorses it.

Why should Republicans be "admonished" for protesting against stolen elections? There is really little point in spending the time or money to run for office if you are going to be swindled.

Further, no one will contribute to an election campaign that has no chance of succeeding because of fraud.

Because it wasn't stolen. For the first time in many election cycles, the Republican tactic of voter suppression was largely removed. Granted, it was because of the pandemic (which I'd like to point out was made worse by the lack of response from the WH and impeded by the Republican party). Individual states made their own election rules. It is up to the state to set those rules. If you truly believe in the Constitution, then you believe in state's rights. If not, it's just bullshit talk. You believe in selective interpretation. For the SC to rule in Texas favor, it would have to throw out and invalidate millions of legally cast votes. Straight up voter disenfranchisement. It's bad enough that the Republican party engages in voter suppression and gerrymandering, but this?...is straight up theft..and sedition.

How is making a person vote in person and prove they are eligible to vote voter surpression?

States made the election rules. There are states that have used mail in voting for years without incident. The military has used it for decades.
Voting in person (especially during a pandemic) may not be possible for everyone. Hence, a way for Republicans to practice voter suppression.
Everyone who cast a vote was eligible. 73 million of the morons voted for Trump.

Your man lost. And you're pissed. I get it. But this behavior is just un-American.

You just like mail in voting because it makes it easier to cheat, and you know your side has no issues with cheating.

Cry me a river. Trump lost. This extended temper tantrum is unseemly. There was no evidence of voter fraud. Federal and state officials (Republican and Democrat) have stated this was the smoothest and most secure election in years. All lawsuits have been thrown out. You're mad because your man lost. Tell me, what is so special about Donald John Trump that you are willing to sacrifice your honor, your intelligence, and your integrity? It really is perplexing to me.

The people who benefit from the cheating say there is no cheating, and the people responsible for making sure there is no cheating are saying there is no cheating. Sorry, but since we all know people like you are dishonest hacks that will stop at nothing to win I will not take your or their word for it.

The issue is assholes like you think you can get away with it, that's the issue. You are liars and cheats.

It's too bad. I don't where in the Trump orbit in the last five years that people like you turned from just being amusing at sheer loyalty of sheep to a shepard into a collection of metasasizing cancers?
There's no evidence of widespread voter fraud in any state. Every lawsuit brought forth so far has been dismissed out of hand. Yet here you are, still bleating like a sheep because the idiot you backed lost.
He blew the response to the pandemic so the voters showed him the door. But, you slink down into your alt-right media and your social media clutches and cluck like the fucking hens you are until you
become convinced that something happened here..that didn't. In other words, no matter your protestation, you and the rest of Trump Nation have lost the ability to think for yourselves.

Your assimilation is complete. So I reiterate. You Trump supporters are the dumbest, most ignorant, and most low information voting bloc I've seen rise in my lifetime.

More "nothing to see here, move along" bullshit from the people who benefitted from whatever happened.

All the words you spew don't change that.

 

[SC Patriot]

So you want the court to hand over the election to trump correct? Not a redo, no chance for the other side. I am soooooooooooooo happy I don't align myself with either party. It feels soooo patriotic.

I swear, watching this stuff is like watching professional wrestling. How people buy into it is a mystery.

Just to be clear....if there is a move made by a state, or states that is in direct breach of the constitution, that is OK? Now lets see what happened. The constitution as well as state constitutions of those involved makes it clear that only legislative bodies may amend. But the states in question did not abide by the constitution nor did they abide by their own states constitution.
Now, you may so ...who the hell cares.
Good for you.
But...it is one thing to interpret the constitution where there are grey areas. I get it.
But when the constitution is precise, and word for word it says (paraphrased)....Governors and courts can not defy the constitution, and only legislators can......that is not against the constitution when non legislators defy the constitution?

Someone has to make the final decisions, and that's usually the courts.

It's a shame that they've been clogged by this weird Trumpian fantasy, but I'm confident they'll throw this crap out.

Yet you did not actually respond to what I said.
Why is that?

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

I'm not going to bothering reading the thread ... looks like the same vomit from yesterday ...

Anyone dared comment on the merits of the case yet? ... the OP is crazy wrong ... if we let Texas dictate how Michigan interprets their own laws ... pfffft ... worst, allow Texas to go straight to SCOTUS ... well ... then ... er ...

What's to stop California from telling Mississippi how to run their education system? ... and going straight to SCOTUS with the complaint ...

No ... I didn';t think anyone wanted to discuss this matter honestly ... sorry for interrupting ...

This is what annoys me the worst. I know this is a Hail Mary and it has no chance of overturning the election, but the fact that Texas even had a path to take this directly to the SC with 1) no successful lower court rulings, and 2) Able to file a lawsuit that essentially is looking to interfere in another states' affairs....is a complete travesty.

 

[Slade3200]

The United States has existed for 244 years. If the Texas lawsuit challenging the results of the 2020 presidential election fails, the United States will cease to exist. The US came to be as a result of a people wanting to be free of elite government power. The founders that created the United states realized that individual liberty was so important that a life-risking break with traditional aristocratic control was the only way to fashion a truly free society.

There is an evil in this world that will always be with us. Certain aspects of all societies will always rise to power and when that evil gets power it will never willingly relent to the will of the people because the people are regarded as inferior and unfit to choose their own destiny. When Benjamin Franklin was asked if we have a republic or a monarchy he is purported to have said: “A republic if we can keep it.” Whether he actually uttered those exact words is less important than their meaning.

Franklin knew full well that the minds and hearts of the people could be tricked and swindled by clever power merchants appealing to fear and personal greed. But he like the founders had faith that the people would recognize the power they held with their votes. Rank and file citizens have a collective common sense, and they cannot be fooled indefinitely. They can vote out the power if they choose. This is the golden difference the US possesses as opposed to the rest of the world.

This golden difference became manifest when Donald Trump gained access to the White House by virtue of the vote in the wake of an awakening that government was acting on its own behalf not in the best interest of the people. The people had been tricked and fooled once but not again.

The wickedness of the 2020 election became clear when the vote was tainted and manipulated with fraud. Joe Biden was “selected” with votes, not elected by voters. The hearts and minds of the people were supplanted with mountains of paper ballots rising out of last-minute unconstitutional changes by state actors skirting any actual legislative process. It was brazenly done in broad daylight; it was the raw power that Franklin warned about.

Seventeen states have joined Texas in this lawsuit to save our republic. Let us hope the Supreme Court comes to our rescue.

I’m curious. Is it possible for you to any more dramatic?! Holy crap, y’all are putting the snowflakes to shame

 

[SC Patriot]

I'm not going to bothering reading the thread ... looks like the same vomit from yesterday ...

Anyone dared comment on the merits of the case yet? ... the OP is crazy wrong ... if we let Texas dictate how Michigan interprets their own laws ... pfffft ... worst, allow Texas to go straight to SCOTUS ... well ... then ... er ...

What's to stop California from telling Mississippi how to run their education system? ... and going straight to SCOTUS with the complaint ...

No ... I didn';t think anyone wanted to discuss this matter honestly ... sorry for interrupting ...

This is what annoys me the worst. I know this is a Hail Mary and it has no chance of overturning the election, but the fact that Texas even had a path to take this directly to the SC with 1) no successful lower court rulings, and 2) Able to file a lawsuit that essentially is looking to interfere in another states' affairs....is a complete travesty.

So you have no idea about how multiple state issues are resolved. It goes directly to the supreme court. Always. Always. Always.
You are not worthy of adding to this conversation as you are naive as to how a republic works.

FYI....we are a republic.

 

[Polishprince]

I'm not going to bothering reading the thread ... looks like the same vomit from yesterday ...

Anyone dared comment on the merits of the case yet? ... the OP is crazy wrong ... if we let Texas dictate how Michigan interprets their own laws ... pfffft ... worst, allow Texas to go straight to SCOTUS ... well ... then ... er ...

What's to stop California from telling Mississippi how to run their education system? ... and going straight to SCOTUS with the complaint ...

No ... I didn';t think anyone wanted to discuss this matter honestly ... sorry for interrupting ...

This is what annoys me the worst. I know this is a Hail Mary and it has no chance of overturning the election, but the fact that Texas even had a path to take this directly to the SC with 1) no successful lower court rulings, and 2) Able to file a lawsuit that essentially is looking to interfere in another states' affairs....is a complete travesty.

This is what I don't understand. Why do you object so much, if you think that Sleepy Joe's victory is legit?

One would think you would be HAPPY to get an opportunity to prove your case beyond a shadow of a doubt.

After all, shouldn't this be about unity, not division? A lot of folks aren't nearly as convinced as you are.

 

[bripat9643]

We are rapidly swirling down the toilet bowl to a one party state.

After one election, in which the Democrats did pretty poorly outside the WH.

You guys need to get a grip. Your drama queen meltdowns are tedious.

They will pack the court, open the floodgates to illegal immigration, and create two new states with Democrat Senators.

You know this, of course, which is the proof that you're a douchebag.

Okay, well, you guys know the future, so I guess we're going full commie soon.

IF the Republicans don't take back the Whitehouse in 2024, then it's very likely.

 

[two_iron]

This really isn't going to happen.

You guys really need to calm down. Go out and get some air. Spend the day in a forest with no cell phone.

I really hope there is a huge war over this and you are on the other side.

There's no reason to live with this filthy, diseased shit anymore. The productive half of America will be so much happier without dragging along these soulless animals with all their defects. I look forward to dumping them and watching them self-destruct.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

I'm not going to bothering reading the thread ... looks like the same vomit from yesterday ...

Anyone dared comment on the merits of the case yet? ... the OP is crazy wrong ... if we let Texas dictate how Michigan interprets their own laws ... pfffft ... worst, allow Texas to go straight to SCOTUS ... well ... then ... er ...

What's to stop California from telling Mississippi how to run their education system? ... and going straight to SCOTUS with the complaint ...

No ... I didn';t think anyone wanted to discuss this matter honestly ... sorry for interrupting ...

This is what annoys me the worst. I know this is a Hail Mary and it has no chance of overturning the election, but the fact that Texas even had a path to take this directly to the SC with 1) no successful lower court rulings, and 2) Able to file a lawsuit that essentially is looking to interfere in another states' affairs....is a complete travesty.

So you have no idea about how multiple state issues are resolved. It goes directly to the supreme court. Always. Always. Always.
You are not worthy of adding to this conversation as you are naive as to how a republic works.

FYI....we are a republic.

There IS no issue, snowflake. That's the point. This is frivolous. Texas has NO standing to question another state's process. They suffered no harm.
So do me a favor and stow your upturned nose. I don't give a shit.

 

[bripat9643]

I'm not going to bothering reading the thread ... looks like the same vomit from yesterday ...

Anyone dared comment on the merits of the case yet? ... the OP is crazy wrong ... if we let Texas dictate how Michigan interprets their own laws ... pfffft ... worst, allow Texas to go straight to SCOTUS ... well ... then ... er ...

What's to stop California from telling Mississippi how to run their education system? ... and going straight to SCOTUS with the complaint ...

No ... I didn';t think anyone wanted to discuss this matter honestly ... sorry for interrupting ...

This is what annoys me the worst. I know this is a Hail Mary and it has no chance of overturning the election, but the fact that Texas even had a path to take this directly to the SC with 1) no successful lower court rulings, and 2) Able to file a lawsuit that essentially is looking to interfere in another states' affairs....is a complete travesty.

You're annoyed that the courts will examine the Dim's election fraud.

 

[rightwinger]

I have faith in our Conservative court to not only reject this ridiculous claim but to admonish EVERY Republican who endorses it.

Why should Republicans be "admonished" for protesting against stolen elections? There is really little point in spending the time or money to run for office if you are going to be swindled.

Further, no one will contribute to an election campaign that has no chance of succeeding because of fraud.

Because it wasn't stolen. For the first time in many election cycles, the Republican tactic of voter suppression was largely removed. Granted, it was because of the pandemic (which I'd like to point out was made worse by the lack of response from the WH and impeded by the Republican party). Individual states made their own election rules. It is up to the state to set those rules. If you truly believe in the Constitution, then you believe in state's rights. If not, it's just bullshit talk. You believe in selective interpretation. For the SC to rule in Texas favor, it would have to throw out and invalidate millions of legally cast votes. Straight up voter disenfranchisement. It's bad enough that the Republican party engages in voter suppression and gerrymandering, but this?...is straight up theft..and sedition.

How is making a person vote in person and prove they are eligible to vote voter surpression?

States made the election rules. There are states that have used mail in voting for years without incident. The military has used it for decades.
Voting in person (especially during a pandemic) may not be possible for everyone. Hence, a way for Republicans to practice voter suppression.
Everyone who cast a vote was eligible. 73 million of the morons voted for Trump.

Your man lost. And you're pissed. I get it. But this behavior is just un-American.

You just like mail in voting because it makes it easier to cheat, and you know your side has no issues with cheating.

Cry me a river. Trump lost. This extended temper tantrum is unseemly. There was no evidence of voter fraud. Federal and state officials (Republican and Democrat) have stated this was the smoothest and most secure election in years. All lawsuits have been thrown out. You're mad because your man lost. Tell me, what is so special about Donald John Trump that you are willing to sacrifice your honor, your intelligence, and your integrity? It really is perplexing to me.

The people who benefit from the cheating say there is no cheating, and the people responsible for making sure there is no cheating are saying there is no cheating. Sorry, but since we all know people like you are dishonest hacks that will stop at nothing to win I will not take your or their word for it.

The issue is assholes like you think you can get away with it, that's the issue. You are liars and cheats.

It's too bad. I don't where in the Trump orbit in the last five years that people like you turned from just being amusing at sheer loyalty of sheep to a shepard into a collection of metasasizing cancers?
There's no evidence of widespread voter fraud in any state. Every lawsuit brought forth so far has been dismissed out of hand. Yet here you are, still bleating like a sheep because the idiot you backed lost.
He blew the response to the pandemic so the voters showed him the door. But, you slink down into your alt-right media and your social media clutches and cluck like the fucking hens you are until you
become convinced that something happened here..that didn't. In other words, no matter your protestation, you and the rest of Trump Nation have lost the ability to think for yourselves.

Your assimilation is complete. So I reiterate. You Trump supporters are the dumbest, most ignorant, and most low information voting bloc I've seen rise in my lifetime.

More "nothing to see here, move along" bullshit from the people who benefitted from whatever happened.

All the words you spew don't change that.

If there is something to see...

Why can’t Republicans get any court in the land to accept their evidence?

 

[BlindBoo]

Lacking sufficient evidence to present in court, the Banana Republican's new tactic to disenfranchise millions of votes from "The Others" is to stomp their feet loudly and then threaten to leave the Union.

"If you don't let us have our 'one party rule' we'll just leave"

 

[Mac1958]

So you want the court to hand over the election to trump correct? Not a redo, no chance for the other side. I am soooooooooooooo happy I don't align myself with either party. It feels soooo patriotic.

I swear, watching this stuff is like watching professional wrestling. How people buy into it is a mystery.

Just to be clear....if there is a move made by a state, or states that is in direct breach of the constitution, that is OK? Now lets see what happened. The constitution as well as state constitutions of those involved makes it clear that only legislative bodies may amend. But the states in question did not abide by the constitution nor did they abide by their own states constitution.
Now, you may so ...who the hell cares.
Good for you.
But...it is one thing to interpret the constitution where there are grey areas. I get it.
But when the constitution is precise, and word for word it says (paraphrased)....Governors and courts can not defy the constitution, and only legislators can......that is not against the constitution when non legislators defy the constitution?

Someone has to make the final decisions, and that's usually the courts.

It's a shame that they've been clogged by this weird Trumpian fantasy, but I'm confident they'll throw this crap out.

Yet you did not actually respond to what I said.
Why is that?

Because I only skimmed over it.

 

[martybegan]

I have faith in our Conservative court to not only reject this ridiculous claim but to admonish EVERY Republican who endorses it.

Why should Republicans be "admonished" for protesting against stolen elections? There is really little point in spending the time or money to run for office if you are going to be swindled.

Further, no one will contribute to an election campaign that has no chance of succeeding because of fraud.

Because it wasn't stolen. For the first time in many election cycles, the Republican tactic of voter suppression was largely removed. Granted, it was because of the pandemic (which I'd like to point out was made worse by the lack of response from the WH and impeded by the Republican party). Individual states made their own election rules. It is up to the state to set those rules. If you truly believe in the Constitution, then you believe in state's rights. If not, it's just bullshit talk. You believe in selective interpretation. For the SC to rule in Texas favor, it would have to throw out and invalidate millions of legally cast votes. Straight up voter disenfranchisement. It's bad enough that the Republican party engages in voter suppression and gerrymandering, but this?...is straight up theft..and sedition.

How is making a person vote in person and prove they are eligible to vote voter surpression?

States made the election rules. There are states that have used mail in voting for years without incident. The military has used it for decades.
Voting in person (especially during a pandemic) may not be possible for everyone. Hence, a way for Republicans to practice voter suppression.
Everyone who cast a vote was eligible. 73 million of the morons voted for Trump.

Your man lost. And you're pissed. I get it. But this behavior is just un-American.

You just like mail in voting because it makes it easier to cheat, and you know your side has no issues with cheating.

Cry me a river. Trump lost. This extended temper tantrum is unseemly. There was no evidence of voter fraud. Federal and state officials (Republican and Democrat) have stated this was the smoothest and most secure election in years. All lawsuits have been thrown out. You're mad because your man lost. Tell me, what is so special about Donald John Trump that you are willing to sacrifice your honor, your intelligence, and your integrity? It really is perplexing to me.

The people who benefit from the cheating say there is no cheating, and the people responsible for making sure there is no cheating are saying there is no cheating. Sorry, but since we all know people like you are dishonest hacks that will stop at nothing to win I will not take your or their word for it.

The issue is assholes like you think you can get away with it, that's the issue. You are liars and cheats.

It's too bad. I don't where in the Trump orbit in the last five years that people like you turned from just being amusing at sheer loyalty of sheep to a shepard into a collection of metasasizing cancers?
There's no evidence of widespread voter fraud in any state. Every lawsuit brought forth so far has been dismissed out of hand. Yet here you are, still bleating like a sheep because the idiot you backed lost.
He blew the response to the pandemic so the voters showed him the door. But, you slink down into your alt-right media and your social media clutches and cluck like the fucking hens you are until you
become convinced that something happened here..that didn't. In other words, no matter your protestation, you and the rest of Trump Nation have lost the ability to think for yourselves.

Your assimilation is complete. So I reiterate. You Trump supporters are the dumbest, most ignorant, and most low information voting bloc I've seen rise in my lifetime.

More "nothing to see here, move along" bullshit from the people who benefitted from whatever happened.

All the words you spew don't change that.

If there is something to see...

Why can’t Republicans get any court in the land to accept their evidence?

Because the courts either agree that Trump had to go or don't have the balls to counter the inevitable violent reaction that will occur if somehow the election is brought to a contested status.

 

[bodecea]

I have faith in our Conservative court to not only reject this ridiculous claim but to admonish EVERY Republican who endorses it.

I'm glad you have faith that that will happen....I wish I had as much faith, but the last four years has taken my faith away.

 

[two_iron]

Lacking sufficient evidence to present in court, the Banana Republican's new tactic to disenfranchise millions of votes from "The Others" is to stomp their feet loudly and then threaten to leave the Union.

"If you don't let us have our 'one party rule' we'll just leave"

What do you bring to the party from..... Shitstain, OR?

Exactly.... not a mother fucking thing.

If you're going to act like filthy, diseased animals, I don't want you mooching off me anymore. Go fuck yourself.