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Here is a scientific evolution theory for you to contemplate...
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/08a/born_gay_hoax/TheBornGayHoax.pdf
A little over one‐hundred and fifty years ago, the first concept of an inborn
homosexual condition began to circulate in Germany.
Sure it does.... It is a choice of evolutionary thought in sexual preference....
Or freak genetic natural selection wherein one becomes very sexually confused, and can't help mutilating oneself in a obsessive frenzy to resolve the sexual emotional turmoil....
Science is well defined. The scientific method is the basis for any theories and hypotheses that the scientists support.
A theory does not become a theory until it has been proven over and over by many different people in many different places. The theory of evolution, like the germ theory of disease, has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt. No one tries to use leeches to cure tuberculosis any more.
New discoveries are being made all of the time, some of which change the details of how life evolved, but none of which has challenged the basic theory of life having evolved. Until recently, for example, the generally accepted hypothesis was that the dinosaurs were much like today's reptiles. Recent findings of dinos with feathers, however, have challenged that and made the mainstream hypothesis that the birds descended from dinosaurs. Note the difference: that is still the hypothesis, which is quite different from a theory.
Interesting, isn't it, to think that the hummingbird may have a T Rex in its ancestry? It's just one of the wonders of creation, yet the creationists keep trying to deny such wonders in the mistaken belief that evolution precludes a creator.
The Mirriam Webster Dictionary is quite clear on the definition of a theory. By all accounts, nothing is proven. That's why they're theories.
Theory:
1. rules and techniques: the body of rules, ideas, principles, and techniques that applies to a subject, especially when seen as distinct from actual practice
2. speculation: abstract thought or contemplation
3. idea formed by speculation: an idea of or belief about something arrived at through speculation or conjecture
There are lots of kinds of theories, ranging from conspiracy theories to just someone's idea about how things work. A scientific theory is different. It starts out as an hypothesis, and educated guess to try to explain observed facts. Once the hypothesis has been tested over and over, by different people in different places and at different times, then it becomes a theory and is accepted until and unless new facts come to light that cast doubt on it. There are no new facts that have come to light that don't confirm the theory of evolution, not in a century and a half of observation and research. The new field of DNA research confirms evolution beyond any reasonable doubt.
So no, a theory is not just an educated guess, and saying that evolution, the germ theory of disease, or any other scientific theory is just a theory and therefore not more credible than someone else's opinion is proof positive that the speaker does not know what a scientific theory really is.
Like it or not, the Earth really is round and life really did evolve on it.
The Mirriam Webster Dictionary is quite clear on the definition of a theory. By all accounts, nothing is proven. That's why they're theories.
Theory:
1. rules and techniques: the body of rules, ideas, principles, and techniques that applies to a subject, especially when seen as distinct from actual practice
2. speculation: abstract thought or contemplation
3. idea formed by speculation: an idea of or belief about something arrived at through speculation or conjecture
There are lots of kinds of theories, ranging from conspiracy theories to just someone's idea about how things work. A scientific theory is different. It starts out as an hypothesis, and educated guess to try to explain observed facts. Once the hypothesis has been tested over and over, by different people in different places and at different times, then it becomes a theory and is accepted until and unless new facts come to light that cast doubt on it. There are no new facts that have come to light that don't confirm the theory of evolution, not in a century and a half of observation and research. The new field of DNA research confirms evolution beyond any reasonable doubt.
So no, a theory is not just an educated guess, and saying that evolution, the germ theory of disease, or any other scientific theory is just a theory and therefore not more credible than someone else's opinion is proof positive that the speaker does not know what a scientific theory really is.
Like it or not, the Earth really is round and life really did evolve on it.
You surprise me Skeptik. For the first time you seem close minded. You've made your mind up that evolution as you see it, is fact. That's fine for you to believe, but I don't understand why. I don't see the evidence of it the same way you seem to. All I've heard you say is that it's "scientific" which to me is a very vague term. I need more specifics before i'll accept some idea.
The raw fact is that Evolution is a theory. Scientists arrved at their theories eventually after a point, through speculation. However educated they may be, they are still speculating. Therefore it is not proof. Therefore there is reasonable doubt. There is always reasonable doubt when it comes to theories. That's why they're theories instead of laws as I said before. They are not proof because they are not repeatable.
Theories could be true but are missing a piece or many pieces of the puzzle to confirm what the truth actually is.
more evolution *yawn*
Sorry. I find the principles of the Gospel more much interesting and yet we havent talked about anything for pages. It's rather disappointing.
I do have to say though, I'm reading the tags at the bottom of the page and people look up some weird stuff about Mormons.
There are lots of kinds of theories, ranging from conspiracy theories to just someone's idea about how things work. A scientific theory is different. It starts out as an hypothesis, and educated guess to try to explain observed facts. Once the hypothesis has been tested over and over, by different people in different places and at different times, then it becomes a theory and is accepted until and unless new facts come to light that cast doubt on it. There are no new facts that have come to light that don't confirm the theory of evolution, not in a century and a half of observation and research. The new field of DNA research confirms evolution beyond any reasonable doubt.
So no, a theory is not just an educated guess, and saying that evolution, the germ theory of disease, or any other scientific theory is just a theory and therefore not more credible than someone else's opinion is proof positive that the speaker does not know what a scientific theory really is.
Like it or not, the Earth really is round and life really did evolve on it.
You surprise me Skeptik. For the first time you seem close minded. You've made your mind up that evolution as you see it, is fact. That's fine for you to believe, but I don't understand why. I don't see the evidence of it the same way you seem to. All I've heard you say is that it's "scientific" which to me is a very vague term. I need more specifics before i'll accept some idea.
The raw fact is that Evolution is a theory. Scientists arrved at their theories eventually after a point, through speculation. However educated they may be, they are still speculating. Therefore it is not proof. Therefore there is reasonable doubt. There is always reasonable doubt when it comes to theories. That's why they're theories instead of laws as I said before. They are not proof because they are not repeatable.
Theories could be true but are missing a piece or many pieces of the puzzle to confirm what the truth actually is.
I explained what makes a scientific theory. The only way that a theory can be dismissed is if new facts come to light. As of now, all of the facts that have been discovered or observed have supported the theory of evolution.
It's much like the germ theory of disease that I mention. We know now that not all diseases are caused by human pathogens, but we do know that most are, and further we know which pathogens cause what diseases. To say that the germ theory of disease is "just a theory" and simply speculation is simply absurd. Are we to go back to blaming the evil eye for unknown maladies or bad air for malaria?
The problem seems to be semantics: We say that someone's idea of why something is or is not so is a "theory", but that is not a scientific theory. In order to be considered a scientific theory, and not merely an hypothesis, takes a high degree of proof, and has to be proven by different people in different places using different methods.
You don't have to question your Mormon faith to accept the theory of evolution. There are some faiths that do have to refute modern science, which simply proves them wrong.
Theories are theories because they might be true, and have some evidence to support them. but not enought to be considered laws.
For me, the evolution theory has not presented enough evidence to accept. If it were true, I would have no problem accepting it. I reject no truth. All truth is valuable and we must accept it despite what our religion teaches.
Yes, you are, zeit. Mary had faith, I have faith, you have faith. Evolution has factual evidence. Our faith does not. That's just how it is, and it is OK.
