The vaccine.

2 million out of how many billion? Sorry this just doesn't justify destroying economies and robbing people of their freedom.
Right, we are an embarrassment for not getting the universal testing, contact tracing, and monetary aid programs in place after the first 2 month lockdown. But that's what immoral, incompetent leadership gets you.

By the way, your comment is stupid anyway, since that 2 million number is no longer valid, if we remove the safety measures. It would have been way higher.
 
I noted 100 million people have been fully vaccinated now. Well done Joe.

How many of you are still up under the view it is some left wing conspiracy to depopulate the world? Some say it's designed to destroy the nation and install communism. Don't forget those who say the vaccine is untested even after 100 million have got it and didn't die from it unlike those loopies who hoped God would protect them. Those who contributed to the bulging coffers of those fraudulent charlatans should demand their money back. Thank God for Joe Biden.

Joe inherited the vaccine from Trump and it was already going into arms before he became El Presidente.

If Bi-Dung had been in charge of vaccine development, America would look like India does today!!

uh-huh. why did donny & his trophy wife #3 got that there vaccine on the down low back in jan & not let his deplorables know?
i give up...why dont you enlighten us....

because he has no problems watching y'all get sick & die, it's what he is.

but he sure protected himself.
 
I think the vaccine doesn't actually do shit. It is a placebo. Why else do we still have to wear masks?

because we aren't up to 70-85% fully vaccinated people.

you have heard of herd immunity.... haven't you?
So the vaccine is unnecessary unless you are high risk right? After all herd immunity happens naturally. The lockdowns actually made things worse by not allowing herd immunity to happen faster. We should've just protected those at high risk and let the rest go on with things a normal.

for natural herd immunity to be realized...

The Cost of Herd Immunity in the U.S.
— Likely involves more than a million deaths; "That cannot be our price"

by Kristina Fiore, Director of Enterprise & Investigative Reporting, MedPage Today September 1, 2020

The Cost of Herd Immunity in the U.S.
Likely involves Is all I need to see. Seems this was just a guess on her part. By the way, how many are dead already with all the lockdowns we have had?

'likely' because they are using educated guesses based on data they have + variable. that's called 'science'.


et's look at the numbers:

For herd immunity to take hold, you would need a minimum of 60% of the entire population to be infected. Antibody studies tell us that some small pockets of New York City and Mumbai, India, may have reached 50% infection rates, but cities with major outbreaks have had overall infection rates of less than 25%. Based on CDC testing nationally, we estimate 10% of the U.S. population has experienced COVID-19 coronavirus infection. Given the overall number of confirmed deaths, we can estimate that approximately 0.6% of people with COVID-19 will perish as a result. As of this writing, over 220,000 Americans have already died from COVID-19. So, what would happen if 60% of the population were infected rather than 10%? Here are our estimates for what a "herd immunity" experience in the U.S. would look like:

  • 197 million cases
  • 6 million people hospitalized
  • 2 million deaths

This is not a solution. The loss of life would be many times more devastating than what we see now. The economic impact would be ruinous for our state and country. If you see statements that claim otherwise, keep in mind there has not been a single scientifically verified study anywhere in the world that shows unchecked herd immunity as a solution.

The scientific truth about herd immunity
2 million out of how many billion? Sorry this just doesn't justify destroying economies and robbing people of their freedom.

2 million HERE. america doesn't have a billion people... can't you read?

& you aren't free to make me sick.
 
2 million out of how many billion? Sorry this just doesn't justify destroying economies and robbing people of their freedom.
Right, we are an embarrassment for not getting the universal testing, contact tracing, and monetary aid programs in place after the first 2 month lockdown. But that's what immoral, incompetent leadership gets you.

By the way, your comment is stupid anyway, since that 2 million number is no longer valid, if we remove the safety measures. It would have been way higher.
So it is claimed. We will never know though. But if you look at Florida I would say it most likely wouldn't have been way higher.
 
I think the vaccine doesn't actually do shit. It is a placebo. Why else do we still have to wear masks?

because we aren't up to 70-85% fully vaccinated people.

you have heard of herd immunity.... haven't you?
So the vaccine is unnecessary unless you are high risk right? After all herd immunity happens naturally. The lockdowns actually made things worse by not allowing herd immunity to happen faster. We should've just protected those at high risk and let the rest go on with things a normal.

for natural herd immunity to be realized...

The Cost of Herd Immunity in the U.S.
— Likely involves more than a million deaths; "That cannot be our price"

by Kristina Fiore, Director of Enterprise & Investigative Reporting, MedPage Today September 1, 2020

The Cost of Herd Immunity in the U.S.
Likely involves Is all I need to see. Seems this was just a guess on her part. By the way, how many are dead already with all the lockdowns we have had?

'likely' because they are using educated guesses based on data they have + variable. that's called 'science'.


et's look at the numbers:

For herd immunity to take hold, you would need a minimum of 60% of the entire population to be infected. Antibody studies tell us that some small pockets of New York City and Mumbai, India, may have reached 50% infection rates, but cities with major outbreaks have had overall infection rates of less than 25%. Based on CDC testing nationally, we estimate 10% of the U.S. population has experienced COVID-19 coronavirus infection. Given the overall number of confirmed deaths, we can estimate that approximately 0.6% of people with COVID-19 will perish as a result. As of this writing, over 220,000 Americans have already died from COVID-19. So, what would happen if 60% of the population were infected rather than 10%? Here are our estimates for what a "herd immunity" experience in the U.S. would look like:

  • 197 million cases
  • 6 million people hospitalized
  • 2 million deaths

This is not a solution. The loss of life would be many times more devastating than what we see now. The economic impact would be ruinous for our state and country. If you see statements that claim otherwise, keep in mind there has not been a single scientifically verified study anywhere in the world that shows unchecked herd immunity as a solution.

The scientific truth about herd immunity
2 million out of how many billion? Sorry this just doesn't justify destroying economies and robbing people of their freedom.

2 million HERE. america doesn't have a billion people... can't you read?

& you aren't free to make me sick.
Sorry I thought that was the would they were talking about. They are still only guessing though.
 
Sorry this just doesn't justify destroying economies and robbing people of their freedom.
Do you know what really robs people of their freedom?
Dying of COVID-19.
So do a lot of other things, Hell 95000 die from alcohol every year. 36000 car related deaths. 3500 to 4000 drowning deaths. An estimated 167,127 people died from unintentional injuries in 2018.
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So I guess we need to remove all danger from our live from now on huh?
 
I think the vaccine doesn't actually do shit. It is a placebo. Why else do we still have to wear masks?

because we aren't up to 70-85% fully vaccinated people.

you have heard of herd immunity.... haven't you?
So the vaccine is unnecessary unless you are high risk right? After all herd immunity happens naturally. The lockdowns actually made things worse by not allowing herd immunity to happen faster. We should've just protected those at high risk and let the rest go on with things a normal.

for natural herd immunity to be realized...

The Cost of Herd Immunity in the U.S.
— Likely involves more than a million deaths; "That cannot be our price"

by Kristina Fiore, Director of Enterprise & Investigative Reporting, MedPage Today September 1, 2020

The Cost of Herd Immunity in the U.S.
Likely involves Is all I need to see. Seems this was just a guess on her part. By the way, how many are dead already with all the lockdowns we have had?

'likely' because they are using educated guesses based on data they have + variable. that's called 'science'.


et's look at the numbers:

For herd immunity to take hold, you would need a minimum of 60% of the entire population to be infected. Antibody studies tell us that some small pockets of New York City and Mumbai, India, may have reached 50% infection rates, but cities with major outbreaks have had overall infection rates of less than 25%. Based on CDC testing nationally, we estimate 10% of the U.S. population has experienced COVID-19 coronavirus infection. Given the overall number of confirmed deaths, we can estimate that approximately 0.6% of people with COVID-19 will perish as a result. As of this writing, over 220,000 Americans have already died from COVID-19. So, what would happen if 60% of the population were infected rather than 10%? Here are our estimates for what a "herd immunity" experience in the U.S. would look like:

  • 197 million cases
  • 6 million people hospitalized
  • 2 million deaths

This is not a solution. The loss of life would be many times more devastating than what we see now. The economic impact would be ruinous for our state and country. If you see statements that claim otherwise, keep in mind there has not been a single scientifically verified study anywhere in the world that shows unchecked herd immunity as a solution.

The scientific truth about herd immunity
2 million out of how many billion? Sorry this just doesn't justify destroying economies and robbing people of their freedom.
That would be 2 million out of a conservative 7 billion or .02%. Ridiculously low. But you can't get into a battle of wits with the unarmed Playtime, she'll drag you down to her level and you are unaccustomed to it.
 

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