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Republicans are always a disaster when it comes to economics and foreign policy, yet they'll whine and scream about how everyone else does it.
Reagan lets 282 marines die in Beirut in 1982 then he turns tail and runs home. G W Bush ignores North Korea and allows them to develop an atomic bomb which they first detonated in 2006. Now the world has a monster to deal with. Reagan tripled the national debt, Bush added 8 trillion to the national debt and handed Obama a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit when Obama took office which Obama has brought down every year he has been in office, even though he had no help from the Republicans in Congress.
Conservatives don't know economics and they don't know national defense. They are good at shutting down the government if they don't get their way though.
Like a group of school children.
Then why do right wingers try to blame it all on Obama?Stop most of the taxing for the rich under Bush losing all that revenue.You're kidding, I hope.....
The middle class will pick up the tab for Scrub's unprecedented profligacy.....for Iraqnam, Medicare Part D, the disastrous consequences of his anti regulatory fervor.....their retirement plans devastated by the abysmal record of the stock market, their negotiating leverage with their employers crippled by the anemic job "growth" during his watch. .it was, to put it mildly, a lost DECADE for the American middle class.
And you helped...
No, most of the Bush years were great years for most people. If not for the housing bubble and collapse, we might have enjoyed a good economy right into the McCain presidency.
Nobody could create such an economy that eventually expanded worldwide by "anemic" job growth. Plus the fact that under DumBama, his spending was twice that of Bush. When Ears was running for President, he claimed that Bush's spending was irresponsible and unpatriotic. Yet once in office, he proved to be twice as irresponsible and twice as unpatriotic; using his terminology of course.
Here's an idea.....instead of all the bold assertions, how about some evidence?
While your working on that, consider how the very thing you insist brought down the "Great Supply Side Idiocy, Part Deux" economy was THE VERY SAME PHENOMENON ON WHICH IT WAS DEPENDENT FOR GDP AND JOB GROWTH.
Federal DebtThe federal debt has already grown more during Obama’s first six years than under all previous U.S. presidents combined, at least in nominal dollars with no adjustment for inflation. The debt owed to the public stands at about $13 trillion, an increase of 106 percent since Obama first took office.
Total debt, counting money the government owes to itself, stands at $18.1 trillion, up 70 percent.
Both debt figures continue to grow, though less rapidly than during Obama’s first few years when annual deficits topped $1 trillion for four years running. The U.S. finished the most recent fiscal year with a deficit of $483 billion. But the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office projects that unless Congress acts to trim future spending or raise future taxes, or some combination of both, those annual deficits will soon be rising again. The most recent “baseline” budget projection, which CBO issued in August, forecasts that under current law the deficit will rise above half a trillion in fiscal 2016 and hit $960 billion within a decade.
Obama’s Numbers (January 2015 Update)
Move millions of jobs to China under Bush losing all that revenue.
Close tens of thousands of factories under Bush losing all that revenue.
Then complain that Obama isn't bring in enough revenue.
Shit for brains nitwit doesn't get it.
Speaking of shit for brains, the President doesn't have the power to do any of the things you listed. If you understood how our government worked, you'd know that.
And if you paid attention to politics, you would also have realized the Republicans did increase taxes on the wealthy, on corporations, and on capital gains just like you Socialists wanted.
Nobody on the right complains about bringing in revenue, we complain about all the wasteful spending.
What I see is a surplus. Then all those GOP policies passed through reconciliation, which Republicans used three times. Then the entire ponzi scheme crashed. Republicans used reconciliation three times during the nearly 5 years they held the entire country hostage and controlled both houses.Republicans are always a disaster when it comes to economics and foreign policy, yet they'll whine and scream about how everyone else does it.
Reagan lets 282 marines die in Beirut in 1982 then he turns tail and runs home. G W Bush ignores North Korea and allows them to develop an atomic bomb which they first detonated in 2006. Now the world has a monster to deal with. Reagan tripled the national debt, Bush added 8 trillion to the national debt and handed Obama a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit when Obama took office which Obama has brought down every year he has been in office, even though he had no help from the Republicans in Congress.
Conservatives don't know economics and they don't know national defense. They are good at shutting down the government if they don't get their way though.
Like a group of school children.
Yeah, that sounds real good. But the deficit didn't start to go down until the Republicans gained leadership of Congress again. You know Congress........ the people in charge of spending????
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What I see is a surplus. Then all those GOP policies passed through reconciliation, which Republicans used three times. Then the entire ponzi scheme crashed. Republicans used reconciliation three times during the nearly 5 years they held the entire country hostage and controlled both houses.Republicans are always a disaster when it comes to economics and foreign policy, yet they'll whine and scream about how everyone else does it.
Reagan lets 282 marines die in Beirut in 1982 then he turns tail and runs home. G W Bush ignores North Korea and allows them to develop an atomic bomb which they first detonated in 2006. Now the world has a monster to deal with. Reagan tripled the national debt, Bush added 8 trillion to the national debt and handed Obama a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit when Obama took office which Obama has brought down every year he has been in office, even though he had no help from the Republicans in Congress.
Conservatives don't know economics and they don't know national defense. They are good at shutting down the government if they don't get their way though.
Like a group of school children.
Yeah, that sounds real good. But the deficit didn't start to go down until the Republicans gained leadership of Congress again. You know Congress........ the people in charge of spending????
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Do you deny the GOP used reconciliation three times?
Then why do right wingers try to blame it all on Obama?Stop most of the taxing for the rich under Bush losing all that revenue.No, most of the Bush years were great years for most people. If not for the housing bubble and collapse, we might have enjoyed a good economy right into the McCain presidency.
Nobody could create such an economy that eventually expanded worldwide by "anemic" job growth. Plus the fact that under DumBama, his spending was twice that of Bush. When Ears was running for President, he claimed that Bush's spending was irresponsible and unpatriotic. Yet once in office, he proved to be twice as irresponsible and twice as unpatriotic; using his terminology of course.
Here's an idea.....instead of all the bold assertions, how about some evidence?
While your working on that, consider how the very thing you insist brought down the "Great Supply Side Idiocy, Part Deux" economy was THE VERY SAME PHENOMENON ON WHICH IT WAS DEPENDENT FOR GDP AND JOB GROWTH.
Federal DebtThe federal debt has already grown more during Obama’s first six years than under all previous U.S. presidents combined, at least in nominal dollars with no adjustment for inflation. The debt owed to the public stands at about $13 trillion, an increase of 106 percent since Obama first took office.
Total debt, counting money the government owes to itself, stands at $18.1 trillion, up 70 percent.
Both debt figures continue to grow, though less rapidly than during Obama’s first few years when annual deficits topped $1 trillion for four years running. The U.S. finished the most recent fiscal year with a deficit of $483 billion. But the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office projects that unless Congress acts to trim future spending or raise future taxes, or some combination of both, those annual deficits will soon be rising again. The most recent “baseline” budget projection, which CBO issued in August, forecasts that under current law the deficit will rise above half a trillion in fiscal 2016 and hit $960 billion within a decade.
Obama’s Numbers (January 2015 Update)
Move millions of jobs to China under Bush losing all that revenue.
Close tens of thousands of factories under Bush losing all that revenue.
Then complain that Obama isn't bring in enough revenue.
Shit for brains nitwit doesn't get it.
Speaking of shit for brains, the President doesn't have the power to do any of the things you listed. If you understood how our government worked, you'd know that.
And if you paid attention to politics, you would also have realized the Republicans did increase taxes on the wealthy, on corporations, and on capital gains just like you Socialists wanted.
Nobody on the right complains about bringing in revenue, we complain about all the wasteful spending.
If that has been the definition over time, then there is no such "inflation".....
Just misleading a hell.
35-44 hrs per week........as that definition has not changed with Obama, it provides for an apples to apples comparison....
If you want " misleading" look at how the Hatahs are using U3, U6 and LFPR.....
Right, can't use numbers that more accurately reflect reality. Why do you think politicians came up with the crap we use, it makes them look better.
Politicians have no influence over BLS methodology....
Keep telling yourself that, dept of labor is part of the executive.
Here's an idea.....instead of all the bold assertions, how about some evidence?
While your working on that, consider how the very thing you insist brought down the "Great Supply Side Idiocy, Part Deux" economy was THE VERY SAME PHENOMENON ON WHICH IT WAS DEPENDENT FOR GDP AND JOB GROWTH.
Federal DebtThe federal debt has already grown more during Obama’s first six years than under all previous U.S. presidents combined, at least in nominal dollars with no adjustment for inflation. The debt owed to the public stands at about $13 trillion, an increase of 106 percent since Obama first took office.
Total debt, counting money the government owes to itself, stands at $18.1 trillion, up 70 percent.
Both debt figures continue to grow, though less rapidly than during Obama’s first few years when annual deficits topped $1 trillion for four years running. The U.S. finished the most recent fiscal year with a deficit of $483 billion. But the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office projects that unless Congress acts to trim future spending or raise future taxes, or some combination of both, those annual deficits will soon be rising again. The most recent “baseline” budget projection, which CBO issued in August, forecasts that under current law the deficit will rise above half a trillion in fiscal 2016 and hit $960 billion within a decade.
Obama’s Numbers (January 2015 Update)
Cherry picking seems to be fair play, from your link:
Summary
Jobs, paychecks, corporate profits and stock prices have all improved since our last report on the Obama statistical record. Some highlights:
- The economy has now gained nearly five times more jobs under President Barack Obama than it did during the presidency of George W. Bush, and the unemployment rate has dropped to just below the historical average.
- Real weekly earnings are up 1.7 percent, thanks in part to a plunge in gasoline prices.
- Corporate profits have nearly tripled, and stock prices have soared.
- On the other hand, the number of Americans receiving food stamps remains 45 percent higher than when the president first took office, and the rate of home ownership has dropped by 3.2 percentage points, to the lowest point in nearly 20 years.
- The average premium for a benchmark “silver” health plan in the Obamacare marketplaces rose only 2 percent this year, and consumers had more plans from which to choose. But the tax penalty for going without insurance will double.
Fine, but we were discussing debt.
You think debt and deficit are unrelated?
Of course they are related but still two different subjects.
The POTUS determines fiscal policy.......Congress either facilitates (as in the case of Scrub's eager enablers) or it impedes (as we see with the current crop of fiscal saboteurs and traitorous scum squatting in the halls of the Senate and Congress)......Cherry picking seems to be fair play, from your link:
Summary
Jobs, paychecks, corporate profits and stock prices have all improved since our last report on the Obama statistical record. Some highlights:
- The economy has now gained nearly five times more jobs under President Barack Obama than it did during the presidency of George W. Bush, and the unemployment rate has dropped to just below the historical average.
- Real weekly earnings are up 1.7 percent, thanks in part to a plunge in gasoline prices.
- Corporate profits have nearly tripled, and stock prices have soared.
- On the other hand, the number of Americans receiving food stamps remains 45 percent higher than when the president first took office, and the rate of home ownership has dropped by 3.2 percentage points, to the lowest point in nearly 20 years.
- The average premium for a benchmark “silver” health plan in the Obamacare marketplaces rose only 2 percent this year, and consumers had more plans from which to choose. But the tax penalty for going without insurance will double.
Fine, but we were discussing debt.
Fine, the annual deficit under Obama has gone down, some 'credit' to the TP; however, what the TP solution does, is to simply kick ultimate needs down the road. To fail to fix what we allow to further rust / fall into disrepair or become obsolete, or take away what most citizens have worked do to their health crisis or injury or loss of a job is callous and foolish and simply gives to the wealthy and takes away from the needy.
Being penny wise and dollar foolish defines a fiscal conservative. Fiscal decisions must be rational, pragmatic, responsible and compassionate, something alien to the mind of a tea bagger.
First, learn the difference between debt and deficit. Second, learn who controls the spending in our government. Third, pay close attention to the leaders of Congress when deficits are reduced and who to credit for it.
Did you know that the budget process begins with a Request by the White House?
Do you know why Easy Al Greenspan described Ronald Reagan as "a reckless steward of the economy"?
Sure, the President does make a budget proposal, but that's all it is, a proposal. It doesn't mean Congress has to go along with all or any of it. Ultimately, it's the Congress that spends the money. Sure, the President can refuse to sign it and shut down the government, but that doesn't happen very often........ or at least often enough.
Are you assigning credit to the enablers of the Surplus Vaporizer?Republicans are always a disaster when it comes to economics and foreign policy, yet they'll whine and scream about how everyone else does it.
Reagan lets 282 marines die in Beirut in 1982 then he turns tail and runs home. G W Bush ignores North Korea and allows them to develop an atomic bomb which they first detonated in 2006. Now the world has a monster to deal with. Reagan tripled the national debt, Bush added 8 trillion to the national debt and handed Obama a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit when Obama took office which Obama has brought down every year he has been in office, even though he had no help from the Republicans in Congress.
Conservatives don't know economics and they don't know national defense. They are good at shutting down the government if they don't get their way though.
Like a group of school children.
Yeah, that sounds real good. But the deficit didn't start to go down until the Republicans gained leadership of Congress again. You know Congress........ the people in charge of spending????
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That chart doesn't show spending...Then why do right wingers try to blame it all on Obama?Stop most of the taxing for the rich under Bush losing all that revenue.Here's an idea.....instead of all the bold assertions, how about some evidence?
While your working on that, consider how the very thing you insist brought down the "Great Supply Side Idiocy, Part Deux" economy was THE VERY SAME PHENOMENON ON WHICH IT WAS DEPENDENT FOR GDP AND JOB GROWTH.
Federal DebtThe federal debt has already grown more during Obama’s first six years than under all previous U.S. presidents combined, at least in nominal dollars with no adjustment for inflation. The debt owed to the public stands at about $13 trillion, an increase of 106 percent since Obama first took office.
Total debt, counting money the government owes to itself, stands at $18.1 trillion, up 70 percent.
Both debt figures continue to grow, though less rapidly than during Obama’s first few years when annual deficits topped $1 trillion for four years running. The U.S. finished the most recent fiscal year with a deficit of $483 billion. But the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office projects that unless Congress acts to trim future spending or raise future taxes, or some combination of both, those annual deficits will soon be rising again. The most recent “baseline” budget projection, which CBO issued in August, forecasts that under current law the deficit will rise above half a trillion in fiscal 2016 and hit $960 billion within a decade.
Obama’s Numbers (January 2015 Update)
Move millions of jobs to China under Bush losing all that revenue.
Close tens of thousands of factories under Bush losing all that revenue.
Then complain that Obama isn't bring in enough revenue.
Shit for brains nitwit doesn't get it.
Speaking of shit for brains, the President doesn't have the power to do any of the things you listed. If you understood how our government worked, you'd know that.
And if you paid attention to politics, you would also have realized the Republicans did increase taxes on the wealthy, on corporations, and on capital gains just like you Socialists wanted.
Nobody on the right complains about bringing in revenue, we complain about all the wasteful spending.
Because if DumBama doesn't sign off on Congresses budget, the government gets shut down. Because Republicans believe the MSM will blame them solely, they can't cut the budget anymore than they already are. Look at the chart again, when did most of his spending take place? That's right, under a Democrat led Congress.
Are you assigning credit to the enablers of the Surplus Vaporizer?Republicans are always a disaster when it comes to economics and foreign policy, yet they'll whine and scream about how everyone else does it.
Reagan lets 282 marines die in Beirut in 1982 then he turns tail and runs home. G W Bush ignores North Korea and allows them to develop an atomic bomb which they first detonated in 2006. Now the world has a monster to deal with. Reagan tripled the national debt, Bush added 8 trillion to the national debt and handed Obama a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit when Obama took office which Obama has brought down every year he has been in office, even though he had no help from the Republicans in Congress.
Conservatives don't know economics and they don't know national defense. They are good at shutting down the government if they don't get their way though.
Like a group of school children.
Yeah, that sounds real good. But the deficit didn't start to go down until the Republicans gained leadership of Congress again. You know Congress........ the people in charge of spending????
View attachment 60174
That chart doesn't show spending...Then why do right wingers try to blame it all on Obama?Stop most of the taxing for the rich under Bush losing all that revenue.Federal DebtThe federal debt has already grown more during Obama’s first six years than under all previous U.S. presidents combined, at least in nominal dollars with no adjustment for inflation. The debt owed to the public stands at about $13 trillion, an increase of 106 percent since Obama first took office.
Total debt, counting money the government owes to itself, stands at $18.1 trillion, up 70 percent.
Both debt figures continue to grow, though less rapidly than during Obama’s first few years when annual deficits topped $1 trillion for four years running. The U.S. finished the most recent fiscal year with a deficit of $483 billion. But the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office projects that unless Congress acts to trim future spending or raise future taxes, or some combination of both, those annual deficits will soon be rising again. The most recent “baseline” budget projection, which CBO issued in August, forecasts that under current law the deficit will rise above half a trillion in fiscal 2016 and hit $960 billion within a decade.
Obama’s Numbers (January 2015 Update)
Move millions of jobs to China under Bush losing all that revenue.
Close tens of thousands of factories under Bush losing all that revenue.
Then complain that Obama isn't bring in enough revenue.
Shit for brains nitwit doesn't get it.
Speaking of shit for brains, the President doesn't have the power to do any of the things you listed. If you understood how our government worked, you'd know that.
And if you paid attention to politics, you would also have realized the Republicans did increase taxes on the wealthy, on corporations, and on capital gains just like you Socialists wanted.
Nobody on the right complains about bringing in revenue, we complain about all the wasteful spending.
Because if DumBama doesn't sign off on Congresses budget, the government gets shut down. Because Republicans believe the MSM will blame them solely, they can't cut the budget anymore than they already are. Look at the chart again, when did most of his spending take place? That's right, under a Democrat led Congress.
A Failed Messiah -infatuated knob-gobbler, fer shure...The president is giving the GOP a study on the way to defeat their brand of fear. He points out that Isis is not going to bring down our country. That's what I've been saying. In fact, it's way more likely that Republicans, with their yearning for secession and hatred for minorities and hatred for our government, will bring down this country. That is my opinion, but most certainly plausible.
He pointed out that corporations are making record profits. But it's not "trickling" down. That fact destroys GOP economic policies.
Reject the twin ruinous GOP policies of targeting race and religion.
The world doesn't look to Beijing or Moscow to solve problems. They call us.
What the GOP has unleashed in the Middle East will go on for at least a generation or more.
The sad part of this great State of the Union address is that Republicans listen to it and think how dare that black bastard try to school us. We are exceptional. No one tells us anything. We already know everything we need to.
"My fellow Americans, this cannot be my task, or any president's alone."
My favorite point was that it wasn't the middle class or the poor that brought down the economy in 2008, it was Wall Street.
Your duties as a citizen.
Stand up for the weak.
Stand up for the vulnerable.
Grit.
Good humor.
Kindness.
Clear eyed.
Big hearted.
Undaunted.
Obama just lost the Republicans.
Are you assigning credit to the enablers of the Surplus Vaporizer?Republicans are always a disaster when it comes to economics and foreign policy, yet they'll whine and scream about how everyone else does it.
Reagan lets 282 marines die in Beirut in 1982 then he turns tail and runs home. G W Bush ignores North Korea and allows them to develop an atomic bomb which they first detonated in 2006. Now the world has a monster to deal with. Reagan tripled the national debt, Bush added 8 trillion to the national debt and handed Obama a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit when Obama took office which Obama has brought down every year he has been in office, even though he had no help from the Republicans in Congress.
Conservatives don't know economics and they don't know national defense. They are good at shutting down the government if they don't get their way though.
Like a group of school children.
Yeah, that sounds real good. But the deficit didn't start to go down until the Republicans gained leadership of Congress again. You know Congress........ the people in charge of spending????
View attachment 60174
The POTUS determines fiscal policy.......Congress either facilitates (as in the case of Scrub's eager enablers) or it impedes (as we see with the current crop of fiscal saboteurs and traitorous scum squatting in the halls of the Senate and Congress)......Fine, but we were discussing debt.
Fine, the annual deficit under Obama has gone down, some 'credit' to the TP; however, what the TP solution does, is to simply kick ultimate needs down the road. To fail to fix what we allow to further rust / fall into disrepair or become obsolete, or take away what most citizens have worked do to their health crisis or injury or loss of a job is callous and foolish and simply gives to the wealthy and takes away from the needy.
Being penny wise and dollar foolish defines a fiscal conservative. Fiscal decisions must be rational, pragmatic, responsible and compassionate, something alien to the mind of a tea bagger.
First, learn the difference between debt and deficit. Second, learn who controls the spending in our government. Third, pay close attention to the leaders of Congress when deficits are reduced and who to credit for it.
Did you know that the budget process begins with a Request by the White House?
Do you know why Easy Al Greenspan described Ronald Reagan as "a reckless steward of the economy"?
Sure, the President does make a budget proposal, but that's all it is, a proposal. It doesn't mean Congress has to go along with all or any of it. Ultimately, it's the Congress that spends the money. Sure, the President can refuse to sign it and shut down the government, but that doesn't happen very often........ or at least often enough.
Any reason why you averting your eyes from the judgment of Alan Greenspan?
Federal DebtThe federal debt has already grown more during Obama’s first six years than under all previous U.S. presidents combined, at least in nominal dollars with no adjustment for inflation. The debt owed to the public stands at about $13 trillion, an increase of 106 percent since Obama first took office.
Total debt, counting money the government owes to itself, stands at $18.1 trillion, up 70 percent.
Both debt figures continue to grow, though less rapidly than during Obama’s first few years when annual deficits topped $1 trillion for four years running. The U.S. finished the most recent fiscal year with a deficit of $483 billion. But the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office projects that unless Congress acts to trim future spending or raise future taxes, or some combination of both, those annual deficits will soon be rising again. The most recent “baseline” budget projection, which CBO issued in August, forecasts that under current law the deficit will rise above half a trillion in fiscal 2016 and hit $960 billion within a decade.
Obama’s Numbers (January 2015 Update)
Cherry picking seems to be fair play, from your link:
Summary
Jobs, paychecks, corporate profits and stock prices have all improved since our last report on the Obama statistical record. Some highlights:
- The economy has now gained nearly five times more jobs under President Barack Obama than it did during the presidency of George W. Bush, and the unemployment rate has dropped to just below the historical average.
- Real weekly earnings are up 1.7 percent, thanks in part to a plunge in gasoline prices.
- Corporate profits have nearly tripled, and stock prices have soared.
- On the other hand, the number of Americans receiving food stamps remains 45 percent higher than when the president first took office, and the rate of home ownership has dropped by 3.2 percentage points, to the lowest point in nearly 20 years.
- The average premium for a benchmark “silver” health plan in the Obamacare marketplaces rose only 2 percent this year, and consumers had more plans from which to choose. But the tax penalty for going without insurance will double.
Fine, but we were discussing debt.
You think debt and deficit are unrelated?
Of course they are related but still two different subjects.
The former is the direct consequence of the latter.....this is a fact with which Recidivist Supply Side Voting Idiots constantly struggle...
Post #18--Ray sez
Yeah, and you can give DumBama credit if he had the power
to spend money. But guess what, he doesn't. It was the
Republican Congress that you can give credit to for the
reduction of spending and lower deficits.
Post #37-Ray sez--
That's the part liberals don't get: we gave leadership
to the Republicans in Congress and Senate to stop
Obama--not work with him.
Post-354 -Bluecoller sez--
Lets give credit where credit is due. The nut-sucking
republican baggys only added 435 million dollars to
the federal debt in 2014.
Hoo-ray for the baggys.
Post #355--ray sez--
Terrific post genius. Now learn the difference between debt and deficits.
Bluecoller
In 2015, the nut-sucking baggys spent 435 million more
dollars than was collected in taxes, but this baggy
deficit did not add to the debt.
---Is this what you are trying to say?????
For Republicans, Lying is a way of life.
-------Bluecoller--the grumpy old kraut -----
Just misleading a hell.
35-44 hrs per week........as that definition has not changed with Obama, it provides for an apples to apples comparison....
If you want " misleading" look at how the Hatahs are using U3, U6 and LFPR.....
Right, can't use numbers that more accurately reflect reality. Why do you think politicians came up with the crap we use, it makes them look better.
Politicians have no influence over BLS methodology....
Keep telling yourself that, dept of labor is part of the executive.
But it's function is apolitical....the definitions don't change at the whim of the Administration.
Idiots resenting the fiscal responsibility of Bill Clinton are a dime a dozen......I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes...Are you assigning credit to the enablers of the Surplus Vaporizer?Republicans are always a disaster when it comes to economics and foreign policy, yet they'll whine and scream about how everyone else does it.
Reagan lets 282 marines die in Beirut in 1982 then he turns tail and runs home. G W Bush ignores North Korea and allows them to develop an atomic bomb which they first detonated in 2006. Now the world has a monster to deal with. Reagan tripled the national debt, Bush added 8 trillion to the national debt and handed Obama a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit when Obama took office which Obama has brought down every year he has been in office, even though he had no help from the Republicans in Congress.
Conservatives don't know economics and they don't know national defense. They are good at shutting down the government if they don't get their way though.
Like a group of school children.
Yeah, that sounds real good. But the deficit didn't start to go down until the Republicans gained leadership of Congress again. You know Congress........ the people in charge of spending????
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What surplus vaporizer? What haven't had a surplus in government spending since 1957.
