“Travis told police Arbery “squared up” like he was going to attack.” So he shot him in the chest.

[colfax_m]

And maybe you can understand that TM definitely committed felony aggravated assault according to the law when AA was running toward the truck and still 90 feet away from TMs pointed shotgun

Never happened. I watched the video.

shotgun was pointed toward the ground toward the truck

So you are saying that Travis, Greg, and Roddy committed Felony False Statement to a Police Officer instead of Felony Aggravated Assault and Murder?

Police aren’t federal.

Are you saying someone who pleaded guilty under coercion lied and still should do time? Hmmmm

That would be the only thing they could get Flynn for.

Now sorry for the screw up, it posted before I was done.

In Georgia it is a Felony to do that.

2010 Georgia Code :: TITLE 16 - CRIMES AND OFFENSES :: CHAPTER 10 - OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION :: ARTICLE 2 - OBSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION AND RELATED OFFENSES :: § 16-10-20 - False statements and writings, concealment of fact

law.justia.com

So the only way to get out of Murder, which probably wouldn’t work, would be to admit to making a False Statement to Police, which is a Felony punishable by up to Five years in Prison.

You really should know the laws before you comment that it is State not Federal. It is illegal to make a False Statement to police in just about every State. If there is an exception, I don’t know it.

Or not.

Yes I suppose knowing the facts and the truth is a big problem with your hatred. Because if your beliefs are wrong than you are just an obstinate asshole.

I just go with facts. The video is my facts. The DA will be unable to change the fact the video exists.

some day watch it and you will see the facts

You’re operating under an incomplete set of facts. The DA doesn’t have to change anything about the video, but supplement it with facts that demonstrate that McMichal was indeed the aggressor.

Unlike you, the jury is sworn to consider all facts.

I saw a black dude run right at him. the black dude was the aggressor. Travis was standing still. How is standing being aggressive exactly?

Because you refuse to acknowledge how Travis just so happened to be standing there with a shotgun in his hands.

that isn't against the law. That's why.

You can't even acknowledge the black dude tried to take his gun. Truly amazing you can't see that in the video.


Ever hear of momentum?

How do you know it isn’t against the law? You refuse to acknowledge why he was standing there.

So did the black dude grab the gun? Yep, and you won’t acknowledge my question. Why?

I can answer your question unless you’re willing to accept that the video does not depict everything that happened that day.

 

[SavannahMann]

Never happened. I watched the video.

But the video doesn't show what happened at the front of the vehicle because the vehicle itself is obscuring the view.

Absent the ability to view that segment of the video, the gap is filled in by questioning one of the two parties who were involved in the shooting. Because Arbery is deceased that only leaves Travis McMichael's although the father if he was in the bed of the trunk may have been able to view what transpired, however I don't recall him providing corrobarating testimony in support of your allegation that Arbery attacked first and that Travis was only defending himself (actually this point is moot because it's already been established that the McMichael's were the aggressors since they chased down Arbery)

How is it possible that you watched a video and saw something on it that isn't there?

The video shows AA the aggressor.

No sir. It does not. It clearly shows Travis committing Aggravated Assault. It means the death must be Murder. No other option exists in law.

Naw. You should watch closer

I have watched it very closely. As I said. Travis definitely commits the act of Aggravated Assault. That crime means that Travis is the criminal. AA’s death is the result of a criminal action.

Look. It is how we deal with every death. Let’s say someone robs a store. The clerk panics and tries to rush out of the store, slips and hits his head. He dies from the fall. Since he died while a crime was being committed the death is automatically a Murder.

What is it you claim Travis did?

It is not just what I claim he did. It is what the Prosecutor and GBI investigators say he did. It is what Greg’s lawyer says Travis did. And it is what Roddy’s lawyer says he did. So everyone involved except Travis.

they said he did what?

BTW, the Roddy guy didn't see shit.

There is more than one minute of video. The Lawyers in the hearing said what I said they did.

Roddy’s lawyer said Roddy did not know the McMichaels were acting illegally. Roddy’s lawyer acknowledged that the McMichaels were acting in violation of the law.

Greg’s lawyer said that Greg was there talking to police and trying to keep AA in sight and had no idea that Travis was going to shoot. Greg is claiming he had nothing to do with it.

So if two lawyers say that Greg murdered AA and they are co defendants why are you having trouble with it?

so what? all of that is true. So what? doesn't change the fact the black dude bull rushed Travis. just doesn't. That is in the video.

the black dude tried to take the gun, right?

In a manner of speaking. Yes. He attacked in self defense after minutes of being chased by criminals including a hit and run accident.

Self defense of what? No one was stopping him

They had struck him with their vehicles. That is either hit and run or vehicular assault. The video you keep swearing by has been overtaken by events and facts.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Travis was standing still.

You are a lying idiot. We all can see TM backing up moving to the

He is moving to the left. AA Has already been shot.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

 

[Jitss617]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

The question says Person A is pointing his weapon at Person B, not that he's merely holding it.

Is Person A or Person B the aggressor?

 

[Jitss617]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

The question says Person A is pointing his weapon at Person B, not that he's merely holding it.

Is Person A or Person B the aggressor?

Are you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Are you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B

what violent crime did TM see AA commit that day?

 

[SavannahMann]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

The question says Person A is pointing his weapon at Person B, not that he's merely holding it.

Is Person A or Person B the aggressor?

Are you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B

Are you in Georgia pointing your weapon at a violent criminal who is unarmed?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Are you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B

Where is the proof that the person you're pointing your weapon at, Person B, is either violent or a criminal?

 

[Jitss617]

Are you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B

what violent crime did TM see AA commit that day?

Savage physical attack

 

[Jitss617]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

The question says Person A is pointing his weapon at Person B, not that he's merely holding it.

Is Person A or Person B the aggressor?

Are you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B

Are you in Georgia pointing your weapon at a violent criminal who is unarmed?

Huh

 

[Jitss617]

Are you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B

Where is the proof that the person you're pointing your weapon at, Person B, is either violent or a criminal?

Well he’s running from a possible felony, and he running right at him with fist flying

 

[SavannahMann]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

The question says Person A is pointing his weapon at Person B, not that he's merely holding it.

Is Person A or Person B the aggressor?

Are you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B

Are you in Georgia pointing your weapon at a violent criminal who is unarmed?

Huh

Not much of an answer. Did the question confuse you? Are you pointing a weapon at a dangerous violent criminal who is unarmed in Georgia.

 

[Jitss617]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

The question says Person A is pointing his weapon at Person B, not that he's merely holding it.

Is Person A or Person B the aggressor?

Are you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B

Are you in Georgia pointing your weapon at a violent criminal who is unarmed?

Huh

Not much of an answer. Did the question confuse you? Are you pointing a weapon at a dangerous violent criminal who is unarmed in Georgia.

Unlawfully holding a weapon in Georgia following a suspect who is charging right at me who has been seen on numerous occasions breaking into houses, as he gets close to me a raise my weapon to protect myself like any normal citizen would, As he comes at me flying with his fist I open fire to protect myself that is my right

 

[SavannahMann]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

The question says Person A is pointing his weapon at Person B, not that he's merely holding it.

Is Person A or Person B the aggressor?

Are you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B

Are you in Georgia pointing your weapon at a violent criminal who is unarmed?

Huh

Not much of an answer. Did the question confuse you? Are you pointing a weapon at a dangerous violent criminal who is unarmed in Georgia.

Unlawfully holding a weapon in Georgia following a suspect who is charging right at me who has been seen on numerous occasions breaking into houses, as he gets close to me a raise my weapon to protect myself like any normal citizen would, As he comes at me flying with his fist I open fire to protect myself that is my right

Under Georgia Law you like the McMichaels have just committed Aggravated Assault and Murder. Or Attempted Murder if your victim does not die.

 

[Jitss617]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

The question says Person A is pointing his weapon at Person B, not that he's merely holding it.

Is Person A or Person B the aggressor?

Are you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B

Are you in Georgia pointing your weapon at a violent criminal who is unarmed?

Huh

Not much of an answer. Did the question confuse you? Are you pointing a weapon at a dangerous violent criminal who is unarmed in Georgia.

Unlawfully holding a weapon in Georgia following a suspect who is charging right at me who has been seen on numerous occasions breaking into houses, as he gets close to me a raise my weapon to protect myself like any normal citizen would, As he comes at me flying with his fist I open fire to protect myself that is my right

Under Georgia Law you like the McMichaels have just committed Aggravated Assault and Murder. Or Attempted Murder if your victim does not die.

Self defense is aggravated assault? Interesting interesting

 

[SavannahMann]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

The question says Person A is pointing his weapon at Person B, not that he's merely holding it.

Is Person A or Person B the aggressor?

Are you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B

Are you in Georgia pointing your weapon at a violent criminal who is unarmed?

Huh

Not much of an answer. Did the question confuse you? Are you pointing a weapon at a dangerous violent criminal who is unarmed in Georgia.

Unlawfully holding a weapon in Georgia following a suspect who is charging right at me who has been seen on numerous occasions breaking into houses, as he gets close to me a raise my weapon to protect myself like any normal citizen would, As he comes at me flying with his fist I open fire to protect myself that is my right

Under Georgia Law you like the McMichaels have just committed Aggravated Assault and Murder. Or Attempted Murder if your victim does not die.

Self defense is aggravated assault? Interesting interesting

Pointing a weapon at an unarmed man who is not attacking you is Aggravated Assault. Travis said he pointed the Shotgun at AA 90 yards away and shouted at him to stop.

 

[jc456]

And maybe you can understand that TM definitely committed felony aggravated assault according to the law when AA was running toward the truck and still 90 feet away from TMs pointed shotgun

Never happened. I watched the video.

shotgun was pointed toward the ground toward the truck

So you are saying that Travis, Greg, and Roddy committed Felony False Statement to a Police Officer instead of Felony Aggravated Assault and Murder?

Police aren’t federal.

Are you saying someone who pleaded guilty under coercion lied and still should do time? Hmmmm

That would be the only thing they could get Flynn for.

Now sorry for the screw up, it posted before I was done.

In Georgia it is a Felony to do that.

2010 Georgia Code :: TITLE 16 - CRIMES AND OFFENSES :: CHAPTER 10 - OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION :: ARTICLE 2 - OBSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION AND RELATED OFFENSES :: § 16-10-20 - False statements and writings, concealment of fact

law.justia.com

So the only way to get out of Murder, which probably wouldn’t work, would be to admit to making a False Statement to Police, which is a Felony punishable by up to Five years in Prison.

You really should know the laws before you comment that it is State not Federal. It is illegal to make a False Statement to police in just about every State. If there is an exception, I don’t know it.

Or not.

Yes I suppose knowing the facts and the truth is a big problem with your hatred. Because if your beliefs are wrong than you are just an obstinate asshole.

I just go with facts. The video is my facts. The DA will be unable to change the fact the video exists.

some day watch it and you will see the facts

You’re operating under an incomplete set of facts. The DA doesn’t have to change anything about the video, but supplement it with facts that demonstrate that McMichal was indeed the aggressor.

Unlike you, the jury is sworn to consider all facts.

I saw a black dude run right at him. the black dude was the aggressor. Travis was standing still. How is standing being aggressive exactly?

Because you refuse to acknowledge how Travis just so happened to be standing there with a shotgun in his hands.

that isn't against the law. That's why.

You can't even acknowledge the black dude tried to take his gun. Truly amazing you can't see that in the video.


Ever hear of momentum?

How do you know it isn’t against the law? You refuse to acknowledge why he was standing there.

So did the black dude grab the gun? Yep, and you won’t acknowledge my question. Why?

I can answer your question unless you’re willing to accept that the video does not depict everything that happened that day.

you must be fun to live with. hahahahaha so you can't answer my question because it puts you in a corner. I don't really care much what went on until the black man ran into the gun himself. You can't be a man and say what you actually see. you're weak son. girly man I supposed. can't come to grips with the facts. The video is all anyone needs to know why the black dude died. And it backs my version.

 

[jc456]

Pointing a weapon at an unarmed man who is not attacking you is Aggravated Assault. Travis said he pointed the Shotgun at AA 90 yards away and shouted at him to stop

you still haven't watch the video? fk dude, how many times have I encouraged you to view it so you get the facts? another person with no sense of morality you are.