Trump Is Eliminating VA Pensions - Whaaat ?

[koshergrl]

You don't get to have duplicate bennies from the feds, sorry veterans.

You have to choose from the options available. Not get them all.

This is how you streamline federal funding and eliminate waste.

 

[g5000]

This is what happens when the money runs out. Are you surprised? You shouldn't be. Not very smart to blame politician for a belief in fairy-tale.

Anyway, I have no idea if this is actually true or on the specifics. But seriously, does everyone actually expect to get paid when the unfounded liabilities are at over 120 trillion? That's some hard core fantasy right there... should have voted better 50+ years ago. However, my assumption is that this change only concerns new people.

1. If you're talking about the US debt, it's 20 Trillion, not 120 And much of that 20 Trillion is to countrieds that have been ripping us off in a variety of ways, so how valid is even that number, frankly. ?

2. Your "assumption"is based on WHAT ?

Unfounded liabilities.

Which part of the word did you not understand?

The part where you should have said unfunded.

 

[koshergrl]

if he hasnt yet, he will.

all these coal mining jobs he promised either never happened or were automated.

New met-coal mine opens in Pennsylvania
Corsa Coal's Acosta mine will create up to 100 new jobs

New met-coal mine opens in Pennsylvania | MINING.com

Have always lied like this?

Because your a miner?

Dope is clueless as usual ..

Increased automation guarantees a bleak outlook for Trump’s promises to coal miners | Brookings Institution

You lied an I proved it. 100 new jobs in PA. You lied.

fuck off.. 100 jobs in pa doesnt do shit for the 1000's not working in Kentucky/

asshat.

It does a lot for the families in PA however. Awesome, good news.

 

[Moonglow]

VA Secretary backs off plan to cut elderly vets' benefits

Whew, no one saw this coming...

I had a feeling they'd back off the proposal, since veterans have good political action lobbyist..

 

[Norman]

This is what happens when the money runs out. Are you surprised? You shouldn't be. Not very smart to blame politician for a belief in fairy-tale.

Anyway, I have no idea if this is actually true or on the specifics. But seriously, does everyone actually expect to get paid when the unfounded liabilities are at over 120 trillion? That's some hard core fantasy right there... should have voted better 50+ years ago. However, my assumption is that this change only concerns new people.

1. If you're talking about the US debt, it's 20 Trillion, not 120 And much of that 20 Trillion is to countrieds that have been ripping us off in a variety of ways, so how valid is even that number, frankly. ?

2. Your "assumption"is based on WHAT ?

Unfounded liabilities.

Which part of the word did you not understand?

The part where you should have said unfunded.

Which is exactly what I did say afterwards. What kind of a clueless grammar Nazi is this person?

Incredibly racist to target a non-native english speaker. You should be embarrassed, again. Nazi... racist...

But thanks for pointing out that I corrected my own mistake, so heroic of you. Bet you couldn't have found it otherwise.

 

[Siete]

New met-coal mine opens in Pennsylvania
Corsa Coal's Acosta mine will create up to 100 new jobs

New met-coal mine opens in Pennsylvania | MINING.com

Have always lied like this?

Because your a miner?

Dope is clueless as usual ..

Increased automation guarantees a bleak outlook for Trump’s promises to coal miners | Brookings Institution

You lied an I proved it. 100 new jobs in PA. You lied.

fuck off.. 100 jobs in pa doesnt do shit for the 1000's not working in Kentucky/

gfy asshat.

You're a punk kid, you lied and you got exposed.

I provided a link that backs up exactly what I said

you continue to bolw out your ass.

 

[g5000]

This wasn't Trump.

Paul Ryan has been going after our veteran benefits for a very long time. I've discussed these attacks over the years at length.

 

[pwjohn]

Repubs voting against their own interests is a fairly common thing nowadays. They really are that desperate. And repubs will fuck you people over because they know you're too stupid to vote democrat.

 

[Care4all]

it's not you protectionist,

but it is still very wrong wrong wrong for them to cut this service benefit once they receive social security....

for these unemployable individuals, their social security retirement benefit is going to be very little, because they were never able to gain full employment after their service related disability....they will need the unemployability benefit to compensate for their social security retirement being so little!



VA » Veterans Benefits Administration » Compensation » Special » Individual Unemployability

Compensation
Individual Unemployability
Individual Unemployability is a part of VA's disability compensation program that allows VA to pay certain Veterans disability compensation at the 100% rate, even though VA has not rated their service-connected disabilities at the total level.

Eligibility Requirements:

• You must be a Veteran
• You must have at least one service connected disability rated at least at 60%, OR
• Two or more service connected disabilities at least one disability ratable at 40 percent or more with a combined rating of 70 percent or more.
• You must be unable to maintain substantially gainful employment as a result of service-connected disabilities (marginal employment, such as odd jobs, is not considered substantial gainful employment for VA purposes).

Evidence Requirements:

• Evidence of at least one service connected disability AND
• That the service-connected disability or disabilities are sufficient, without regard to other factors, to prevent performing the mental and/or physical tasks required to get or keep substantially gainful employment AND
• That one disability is ratable at 60 percent or more, OR
• If more than one disability exists, one disability is ratable at 40 percent or more with a combined rating of 70 percent or more.

Under exceptional circumstances this benefit may be granted with a lower disability rating than noted above provided the evidence shows the service-connected disability or disabilities present such an exceptional or unusual disability picture, due to such factors as marked interference with employment or frequent periods of hospitalization, that applying the normal disability requirements is impractical.

Example 1
A Veteran has a service-connected heart condition evaluated as 60% disabling. She has been able to work without difficulty until last year, when she began to experience chest pain with any exertion.

Her physician recommended that she retire as soon as possible. She subsequently filed a claim for increased disability compensation. Evidence regarding the Veteran's work history and education were reviewed by the Rating Team. As it confirmed the Veteran was "individually unemployable" due to her service-connected disability, entitlement to compensation at the rate payable to a 100% disabled Veteran was granted.

Example 2
A Veteran served as a medic in Vietnam and stepped on a land mine severing his right leg below the knee. He wears a prosthesis that allows him good mobility.

He had a great deal of difficulty readjusting to civilian life and was recently diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder. Service connection was established for both disabilities. The ratings for these disabilities are 40% and 50%, respectively. The combined disability rating is 70%.

He applied for individual unemployability because he has not been able to maintain gainful employment for many years. His only income during the last two years has come from a neighbor who pays the Veteran to watch his dogs while he's out of town. The evidence established that his service-connected disabilities render him unemployable.

Based on this finding, the Rating Team granted entitlement to compensation at the rate payable to a Veteran rated 100% disable.

How to Apply

• Apply online using eBenefits, OR
• Work with an accredited representative or agent, OR
• Go to a VA regional office and have a VA employee assist you. You can find your regional office on our Facility Locator page.

For more information on how to apply and for tips on making sure your claim is ready to be processed by VA, visit our How to Apply page.

 

[Mr Natural]

I had a feeling they'd back off the proposal, since veterans have good political action lobbyist

But being the low-life shitbirds that they are, they would fuck with the veterans if they could.

 

[g5000]

This sounds like something Obama would do. It is hard to comprehend. After all the talk about helping and protecting the veterans, we're going to get shafted like this ? Unreal. Hopefully, this is just another one of Trump's deal making MOs >> start high, work your way down to what you really want to do.

For now, I'm looking at it on its face value, and I don't like it one bit. I get $861/month for Social Security. I get another $267 from my VA pension. This is a total of a measly $1128/month. And I'm supposed to sit back and say OK to reducing that to $861/month, for my total income ?

For the first time, my support of Trump in is major jeopardy. I might even discard my Republican registration, and go back to being an Independent. Yikes. Trump better reconsider this, big time.

Trump's big VA budget request comes with proposed trims to vets benefits

Did you serve 20 years or more?

If so, there is another benefit the GOP has been trying to take away from us. Tricare Prime.

The DoD is trying to kick retired vets off Tricare Prime and onto Tricare Standard. The idea is to eventually force us off Tricare for good.

I have a family member with a catastrophic illness. If I was on Tricare Standard instead of Prime, we'd be living in a cardboard box right now. I've had to go to my Congressman and Senators twice to get them to put us back on Tricare Prime.

 

[Moonglow]

I had a feeling they'd back off the proposal, since veterans have good political action lobbyist

But being the low-life shitbirds that they are, they would fuck with the veterans if they could.

Well it's like this, on bathroom stalls in military facilities was a poet's disconcert: "If you like sex join the military, they fuck you every day..." .

 

[g5000]

I had a feeling they'd back off the proposal, since veterans have good political action lobbyist

But being the low-life shitbirds that they are, they would fuck with the veterans if they could.

Congress fucks with us retired vets constantly.

 

[Moonglow]

I had a feeling they'd back off the proposal, since veterans have good political action lobbyist

But being the low-life shitbirds that they are, they would fuck with the veterans if they could.

Congress fucks with us retired vets constantly.

And it starts on day one...

 

[g5000]

I had a feeling they'd back off the proposal, since veterans have good political action lobbyist

But being the low-life shitbirds that they are, they would fuck with the veterans if they could.

Congress fucks with us retired vets constantly.

And it starts on day one...

Pretty much.

I have often felt like the world's biggest sucker for doing 20+ years. I know quite a few other vets who feel the same way.

 

[Siete]

I had a feeling they'd back off the proposal, since veterans have good political action lobbyist

But being the low-life shitbirds that they are, they would fuck with the veterans if they could.

Congress fucks with us retired vets constantly.

And it starts on day one...

Pretty much.

I have often felt like the world's biggest sucker for doing 20+ years. I know quite a few other vets who feel the same way.

thank both of you sorry fuckers for your service .. SALUTE !

 

[Moonglow]

I had a feeling they'd back off the proposal, since veterans have good political action lobbyist

But being the low-life shitbirds that they are, they would fuck with the veterans if they could.

Congress fucks with us retired vets constantly.

And it starts on day one...

Pretty much.

I have often felt like the world's biggest sucker for doing 20+ years. I know quite a few other vets who feel the same way.

I was in an over staffed slot in my last duty station, so I couldn't get promoted..They said I was red flagged for being 2 pounds over weight, yet a sergeant was allowed to be 75 pounds over weight and promoted...I knew then I was being screwed around and got out...

 

[Norman]

This sounds like something Obama would do. It is hard to comprehend. After all the talk about helping and protecting the veterans, we're going to get shafted like this ? Unreal. Hopefully, this is just another one of Trump's deal making MOs >> start high, work your way down to what you really want to do.

For now, I'm looking at it on its face value, and I don't like it one bit. I get $861/month for Social Security. I get another $267 from my VA pension. This is a total of a measly $1128/month. And I'm supposed to sit back and say OK to reducing that to $861/month, for my total income ?

For the first time, my support of Trump in is major jeopardy. I might even discard my Republican registration, and go back to being an Independent. Yikes. Trump better reconsider this, big time.

Trump's big VA budget request comes with proposed trims to vets benefits

Did you serve 20 years or more?

If so, there is another benefit the GOP has been trying to take away from us. Tricare Prime.

The DoD is trying to kick retired vets off Tricare Prime and onto Tricare Standard. The idea is to eventually force us off Tricare for good.

I have a family member with a catastrophic illness. If I was on Tricare Standard instead of Prime, we'd be living in a cardboard box right now. I've had to go to my Congressman and Senators twice to get them to put us back on Tricare Prime.

Is this individual seriously delusional enough to believe that the GOP is the party that is anti-veteran?

I know he is pretty delusional, but wow. GOP practically consists of the veteran lobby and almost nothing else... dumb. As such it's also completely delusional to think the benefits are going to be cut. We will be cutting our own arms to feed the vets before that happens.

 

[Moonglow]

I had a feeling they'd back off the proposal, since veterans have good political action lobbyist

But being the low-life shitbirds that they are, they would fuck with the veterans if they could.

Congress fucks with us retired vets constantly.

And it starts on day one...

Pretty much.

I have often felt like the world's biggest sucker for doing 20+ years. I know quite a few other vets who feel the same way.

thank both of you sorry fuckers for your service .. SALUTE !

It was an effort in sadomasochism I'll never forget...

 

[g5000]

This sounds like something Obama would do. It is hard to comprehend. After all the talk about helping and protecting the veterans, we're going to get shafted like this ? Unreal. Hopefully, this is just another one of Trump's deal making MOs >> start high, work your way down to what you really want to do.

For now, I'm looking at it on its face value, and I don't like it one bit. I get $861/month for Social Security. I get another $267 from my VA pension. This is a total of a measly $1128/month. And I'm supposed to sit back and say OK to reducing that to $861/month, for my total income ?

For the first time, my support of Trump in is major jeopardy. I might even discard my Republican registration, and go back to being an Independent. Yikes. Trump better reconsider this, big time.

Trump's big VA budget request comes with proposed trims to vets benefits

Did you serve 20 years or more?

If so, there is another benefit the GOP has been trying to take away from us. Tricare Prime.

The DoD is trying to kick retired vets off Tricare Prime and onto Tricare Standard. The idea is to eventually force us off Tricare for good.

I have a family member with a catastrophic illness. If I was on Tricare Standard instead of Prime, we'd be living in a cardboard box right now. I've had to go to my Congressman and Senators twice to get them to put us back on Tricare Prime.

Is this individual seriously delusional enough to believe that the GOP is the party that is anti-veteran?

I know he is pretty delusional, but wow. GOP practically consists of the veteran lobby and almost nothing else... dumb.

I've been very actively politically involved in pushing back the cuts placed on vets by our Republican Congress, dipshit. No one knows more than me which party has been trying to cut military benefits.