Trump pledges to protect Americans and end birthright citizenship by executive order on day one.

[TNHarley]

This case? It affirmed what I typed.

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I think you got confused lol

 

[Billiejeens]

Because they and native Americans were the only ones excluded from receiving citizenship at birth like every one else. The 14th Amendment simply makes it explicit that we're going to stop denying black people the thing we've given to everyone else.

..... whose parents didn't break into our country.

 

[Curried Goats]

..... whose parents didn't break into our country.

There was no need to break into the country at its Founding.

 

[Marener]

Then they arent originalists.

They 14th was made for a specific group of people. You know this.
And that is not a "fact." Good luck proving that.
The concept of naturalization has always been a conversation. Like children being birthed during foreign occupation.

If you could ask the authors whether the 14th amendment applied to illegal aliens, they’d ask you WTF is an illegal alien.

All that’s left is the actual text and what words mean. If you think you can use intent to override the text, then the constitution is meaningless since anyone can claim anything they want about what the authors “intended”.

And that’s exactly what we get from originalists.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

That's because the left and their activist judges have abused it. It should have been written like a warning label on products so the left couldn't twist it to include illegal aliens, queers and extraterrestrials.

You need to make up your mind. Either we go by what is clearly written or everything is open to interpretation.

Which is it?

 

[BrokeLoser]

I also seem to recall the words (well regulated) in that Amendment.

Does it say “regulated by Father Government”?
Speaking of intent, do you believe the founders intended the people to own guns to protect themselves against government yet allow government to regulate their guns? You can’t possibly be that retarded… Are you?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I did. The 14th amendment explicitly deals with ex slaves.

Please post the 14th and highlight the part that states that

 

[Billiejeens]

There was no need to break into the country at its Founding.

The amendment in question was not at our founding

 

[surada]

You know you lie about who you are so much, but since this illegal alien stuff gets into your skin so easily.......I am going to have take illegal alien for $500 Alex!

Trump has said he wants to suspend the constitution. I'm against that
Nope my family has been here since 1624.

8 U.S. Code § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[BS Filter]

It explicitly says everyone. Please cite how you intend to overcome an explicit amendment, and times this was successfully done in the past?

What was the purpose for the 14th amendment?

 

[TNHarley]

If you could ask the authors whether the 14th amendment applied to illegal aliens, they’d ask you WTF is an illegal alien.

All that’s left is the actual text and what words mean. If you think you can use intent to override the text, then the constitution is meaningless since anyone can claim anything they want about what the authors “intended”.

And that’s exactly what we get from originalists.

Ahh ok. So the concept isnt what you are actually referring to. Its the words. LOL

And, no, that isnt how it works. Intent and debate has been well documented since the Founding.

 

[80zephyr]

I'm a legitimate American and I think we need them. Most of the jobs that are unfilled are low skill jobs. Jobs you and I won't do and even your kids won't. Dirty jobs. Minimum wage jobs.

Social security is set to expire the year I retire at age 62. We need workers pumping in money to the system so I can get paid. I know what's going to happen. Republicans in 10 years are going to cut everyone's social security 20% in order to "save" the program. You guys want to talk about being taxed? Imagine if I get $200 taken out of my monthly retirement every month for the rest of my life. For what? So rich people and corporations can pay less taxes? So Republicans can lie us into another costly war? That money could have gone into social security.

The number of job openings decreased to 9.6 million on the last business day of March

We need 10 million more immigrants. And YOU need to stop having so many kids because we are overpopulated. So rather than give birth to more babies who are worthless, you have fewer kids and we import people who are ready to work on day one.

Low paid people cost society more than they add. Even our own poor cost us more than they put in. So now we should add more?

 

[BS Filter]

You need to make up your mind. Either we go by what is clearly written or everything is open to interpretation.

Which is it?

There you go again. You're a one trick pony. Go fuck yourself.

 

[Billiejeens]

If you could ask the authors whether the 14th amendment applied to illegal aliens, they’d ask you WTF is an illegal alien.

All that’s left is the actual text and what words mean. If you think you can use intent to override the text, then the constitution is meaningless since anyone can claim anything they want about what the authors “intended”.

And that’s exactly what we get from originalists.

So clearly they didn't include illegal aliens since they didn't exist.
Thank you.

 

[BS Filter]

Please post the 14th and highlight the part that states that

Read a history book.

 

[Billiejeens]

Low paid people cost society more than they add. Even our own poor cost us more than they put in. So now we should add more?

Cloward and Pivens.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

There you go again. You're a one trick pony. Go fuck yourself.

There you go again, showing off your intellectual superiority

 

[Curried Goats]

The amendment in question was not at our founding

It deals with the fact that the only children born here and not recognized as Americans at the Founding were blacks and natives. There was no such thing as illegal aliens. The new world wanted all the laborers and bodies it could get. The 14th Amendment was meant to address the only people excluded from that franchise.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Read a history book.

Read the Constitution

 

[BS Filter]

There you go again, showing off your intellectual superiority

Yep. Not playing your silly game. It's getting old. Show us something new.