Trump Significantly Weakened NATO and Enabled Putin

Putin conspired to help Trump and hurt Clinton because he had a clear preference, and knew which would better serve Russia's agenda.

The Cry Baby Loser continually crapping on NATO must have assured Putin he had made the right choice.

Trump's "savvy genius" had underestimated the U.S.-led international coalition of democracies now opposing him, obviously.
How does forcing NATO to spend more on its own defense help Putin? Hillary would have let that dog lie (if she was even aware of it) in order to ingratiate herself with the EU and the NATO pact. As a result they would have been less prepared for this crisis.
 
At a news conference after the summit, President Trump was asked if he believed his own intelligence agencies or the Russian president when it came to the allegations of meddling in the elections.
"President Putin says it's not Russia. I don't see any reason why it would be," he replied.

US intelligence agencies concluded in 2016 that Russia was behind an effort to tip the scale of the US election against Hillary Clinton, with a state-authorised campaign of cyber attacks and fake news stories planted on social media.

Wrong.
The US intelligence agencies determined there was NO coordinated or significant attempt by Russia to effect the 2016 election at all.

The cyber attack on the DNC that revealed the DNC had given Hillary the debate questions ahead of time, were NEVER linked to Russia in any way.

There were no "fake news stories planted on social media" other than the ridiculous pizza pedophilia one, that only effected 2 unstable people.
 
How does forcing NATO to spend more on its own defense help Putin? Hillary would have let that dog lie (if she was even aware of it) in order to ingratiate herself with the EU and the NATO pact. As a result they would have been less prepared for this crisis.
they are dembot cultist…they make zero sense. Trying to use basic logic with them goes nowhere
 
Matters not if they cared about Guccifer, they cared about the email dumps. The leaked emails split the Democratic party to where many Bernie voters felt disenfranchised by their own party and refused to vote for Hillary where they otherwise would have.

And no, the 2016 voters did not prefer Trump over Hillary. The electoral college did. More of the 2016 voters voted for Hillary than for Trump.

Russia was never implicated in the 2016 DNC email leaks, and those leaks were not illegal or frauds.
The DNC really did attempt to rig the debates by giving Hillary the questions ahead of time.
Hillary really did know she was involved in the fraud and did nothing to stop it.
 
The Electoral College is a representative function of the democratic process. The popular vote is just that...a popularity contest. In a representative democracy elections aren't "winner take all".
Since electoral votes are, with a couple of exceptions, a matter of "winner take all" based upon the popular vote within each state, there is normally a correspondence between the electoral college and the presidential preference of most Americans.

If the less popular candidate were to regularly win the presidency, the electoral college would be reformed to better reflect the public will.
 
How does forcing NATO to spend more on its own defense help Putin?
Trump didn't "force NATO to spend more money" if that is what you are trying to claim.

NATO nations had committed to increasing their contributions begining in 2014.

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Russia was never implicated in the 2016 DNC email leaks, and those leaks were not illegal or frauds.
The DNC really did attempt to rig the debates by giving Hillary the questions ahead of time.
Hillary really did know she was involved in the fraud and did nothing to stop it.
yeo
 
I have seen nothing that shows that to be true. You on the other hand have shown yourself to be a liar.

yes...since the invasion NATO countries have been beefing up their defense.

Show us a link that shows Trump's attacks from two years ago caused them to increase the rate of defense spending.
Putin isn't attacking NATO. Your propaganda is a failure.
 
The Electoral College is a representative function of the democratic process. The popular vote is just that...a popularity contest. In a representative democracy elections aren't "winner take all".
I never said anything different than that.

But in an election where Hillary got 3 million more votes than Trump by the voters, it's patently absurd to claim the voters preferred Trump.

:cuckoo:
 
Putin isn't attacking NATO. Your propaganda is a failure.
exactly Ukraine is not a NATO partner. Still raises the question, why no one from NATO is stopping Putin?

What is clear however, is NATO does not care for human life. Must be why they don't divvy up their money to care for nations in trouble.
 
Wrong.
The US intelligence agencies determined there was NO coordinated or significant attempt by Russia to effect the 2016 election at all.

The cyber attack on the DNC that revealed the DNC had given Hillary the debate questions ahead of time, were NEVER linked to Russia in any way.

There were no "fake news stories planted on social media" other than the ridiculous pizza pedophilia one, that only effected 2 unstable people.

You're lying again, ya pathological liar. :eusa_liar:


While U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded that Russia was behind the email thefts...
 
Russia was never implicated in the 2016 DNC email leaks, and those leaks were not illegal or frauds.
The DNC really did attempt to rig the debates by giving Hillary the questions ahead of time.
Hillary really did know she was involved in the fraud and did nothing to stop it.

You're lying again, ya pathological liar. :eusa_liar:

Again...


While U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded that Russia was behind the email thefts...

It's been well known Russia was behind the hackings and yes, phishing is very illegal.
 
I never said anything different than that.

But in an election where Hillary got 3 million more votes than Trump by the voters, it's patently absurd to claim the voters preferred Trump.

:cuckoo:
the voters that counted preferred trump

how the election was run, the voters preferred trump

talking about some sort of other votes, is not relevant. Nobody ran for the votes you are talking about
 
Since electoral votes are, with a couple of exceptions, a matter of "winner take all" based upon the popular vote within each state, there is normally a correspondence between the electoral college and the presidential preference of most Americans.

If the less popular candidate were to regularly win the presidency, the electoral college would be reformed to better reflect the public will.
America is usually thought of as one nation...however our actual title is the United States of America. This is reflected in the legislative branch of our 'national' government where each state is independently represented.
 
the voters that counted preferred trump

how the election was run, the voters preferred trump

talking about some sort of other votes, is not relevant. Nobody ran for the votes you are talking about
All hitlery had to do was produce the 33k emails. Why didn't she? she exposed herself with that one action. Nothing anyone else did mattered. People voting didn't want someone untrustworthy and not transparent.
 
the voters that counted preferred trump

how the election was run, the voters preferred trump

talking about some sort of other votes, is not relevant. Nobody ran for the votes you are talking about
No, they too did not prefer Trump. Electoral votes have no preference. They blindly support the candidate who wins their respective state.

And again, for the benefit of the brain-dead here... I neither promoted nor placed value on the popular vote. I merely pointed out to someone claiming the voters preferred Trump over Hillary that the voters actually preferred Hillary.

Savvy?
 
America is usually thought of as one nation...however our actual title is the United States of America. This is reflected in the legislative branch of our 'national' government where each state is independently represented.
the nation is built with 50 states who have a voice. to deny the voice is treasonous to the charter called the constitution. Last I read of it, there is no mention that executive orders trump ones rights. I'd be glad to look at that amendment.
 

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