Trump Significantly Weakened NATO and Enabled Putin

[struth]

The head of NATO said Trump made it stronger.

Not to mention the NATO members that are in the Baltic States, on the front line of Putin

Donald Trump Era Left NATO Stronger, Baltic Allies Say

Top diplomats from NATO's Baltic states said the former president's public belligerence belied the alliance's response to Russian aggression.

www.newsweek.com

Donald Trump Era Left NATO Stronger, Baltic Allies Say​

"I think that even at the very critical moments, there was a kind of understanding that NATO is relevant. I would say that NATO probably has come out stronger...everyone understood that there is no alternative." Latvian Foreign Minister Edgar Rinkevics

Alliance Chief Stoltenberg: Trump 'Making NATO Stronger'

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg says President Trump’s insistence that member nations pay their fair share “is having a real impact."

www.breitbart.com

In the first address to the U.S. Congress by a NATO chief, Stoltenberg told lawmakers:

NATO allies must spend more on defense. This has been the clear message from president Trump and this message is having a real impact. After years of reducing defense budgets, all allies have stopped the cuts. And all allies have increased their defense spending. Before they were cutting billions, now they’re adding billions.

Since President Trump’s inauguration, NATO members in Europe and Canada have added $41 billion to their defense budgets, Stoltenberg indicated, adding that the figure is expected to reach $100 billion by the end of next year.
Stoltenberg continued:

This is making NATO stronger. That money will allow us to invest in new capabilities our armed forces need, including advanced fighter aircraft, attack helicopters, missile defense, and surveillance drones. This is good for Europe and is good for America.
America’s NATO allies provide important capabilities, including tens of thousands of intelligence personnel and cyber experts giving the United States better eyes and ears where you need them — from tracking submarines in the Arctic to taking down the cyber networks of ISIS [Islamic State]. And Europe provides the U.S. with a platform to project power around the world.

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[Faun]

In 2016 we had the "Never-Trumpers" splitting part of the Republican party too.
Inter-party squabbles need to end on election day.
I still have a hard time seeing democrat women not voting for Hillary.

Anyway, that's ancient history, 2022 and 2024 are what's important.
There is no popular vote for president, only the EC votes matter.
That's like me saying, just look at the land area we had in 2020, Biden lost.
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Of course the popular vote matters, it matters at the state level. And when something negative about a candidate surfaces, which it always does, it costs that candidate votes. If it didn't, opposition would never bother digging up dirt on their opponents.

In the 2016 election, Russia helped Trump by hacking the DNC and Hillary's campaign manager and air dirty laundry about Democrats and Hillary and it cost her votes. Denying that is denying reality.

 

[jc456]

Not to mention the NATO members that are in the Baltic States, on the front line of Putin

Donald Trump Era Left NATO Stronger, Baltic Allies Say

Top diplomats from NATO's Baltic states said the former president's public belligerence belied the alliance's response to Russian aggression.

www.newsweek.com

Donald Trump Era Left NATO Stronger, Baltic Allies Say​

"I think that even at the very critical moments, there was a kind of understanding that NATO is relevant. I would say that NATO probably has come out stronger...everyone understood that there is no alternative." Latvian Foreign Minister Edgar Rinkevics

Alliance Chief Stoltenberg: Trump 'Making NATO Stronger'

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg says President Trump’s insistence that member nations pay their fair share “is having a real impact."

www.breitbart.com

In the first address to the U.S. Congress by a NATO chief, Stoltenberg told lawmakers:

Since President Trump’s inauguration, NATO members in Europe and Canada have added $41 billion to their defense budgets, Stoltenberg indicated, adding that the figure is expected to reach $100 billion by the end of next year.
Stoltenberg continued:

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Truly perplexing to me, is why a government thinks citizens are expendable. Putin isn't fighting the government, he is bombing and killing Ukrainian citizens and not government or military. Odd shit. thug!!!!! Consistent with all of the governments pandemic treatment of citizens. Is Putin acting alone? hmmmmmmmmmmm odd shit.

 

[struth]

In a January 2017 assessment, the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency, the F.B.I. and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence concluded that Russia interfered in the election. Officials across the intelligence community have affirmed the findings in the report, while Mr. Trump has questioned them.

Interfered or hacked? Did you just move those goalpost again? hahahahh

 

[Faun]

Interfered or hacked? Did you just move those goalpost again? hahahahh

They interfered by hacking email accounts and getting the hacked emails published on the Internet.

 

[kaz]

I shall immediately add it to my "must read" list, right after Pedro Carolino's eminently erudite O novo guia da conversação, em portuguez e inglez.

The association of "Trump" and "book" is a fanciful one, indeed.

The author, Tony Schwartz, has admitted that he regrets writing it.

LOL, so are you happy to go through life as such a whiny, snotty little bitch? Is it really worth living to just take snotty pot shots at people like that? What could you do to be a better person?

 

[kaz]

Truly perplexing to me, is why a government thinks citizens are expendable. Putin isn't fighting the government, he is bombing and killing Ukrainian citizens and not government or military. Odd shit. thug!!!!! Consistent with all of the governments pandemic treatment of citizens. Is Putin acting alone? hmmmmmmmmmmm odd shit.

I'd say they could only do that in a dictatorship, but Democrats have declared hate of half their own country and they repeatedly tell us to die. Why wouldn't Putin?

 

[Lesh]

Not so fast

NATO Defense Funds Have Been Building for Years, but Trump Wants the Credit

Renewed defense spending by European states is in part a response to Russian aggression.

foreignpolicy.com

 

[BS Filter]

how?

NATO Countries Pour Weapons Into Ukraine, Risking Conflict With Russia (Published 2022)

Brussels is proud to be providing military aid, but Moscow may see it as a dangerous intervention.

www.nytimes.com

 

[jc456]

I'd say they could only do that in a dictatorship, but Democrats have declared hate of half their own country and they repeatedly tell us to die. Why wouldn't Putin?

so did canada. We're talking about 300 million people the elites have no concerns with, the thought, fk em all. Now it's up to 4 million affected in Ukraine. Remember the old liberal song 'Imagine'? hahahaahahahahahaha what they really meant was imagine taking all of the parasites out. Anyone doesn't comply, are considered dead now.

 

[struth]

They interfered by hacking email accounts and getting the hacked emails published on the Internet.

Well, I don't know if there is evidence to support that....either way...so what? Obviously it's not good to hack, but....the email content is the issue as well....I am sorry, I am not sorry, that the emails exposed your party as corrupt and help cost them the election.

It's like someone breaking into someone's home...and finding a box of child porn....I certainly don't want people breaking into homes, but glad the child porn was exposed.

 

[kyzr]

Of course the popular vote matters, it matters at the state level. And when something negative about a candidate surfaces, which it always does, it costs that candidate votes. If it didn't, opposition would never bother digging up dirt on their opponents.
In the 2016 election, Russia helped Trump by hacking the DNC and Hillary's campaign manager and air dirty laundry about Democrats and Hillary and it cost her votes. Denying that is denying reality.

1. I can deny that Russia helped Trump. Guccifer 2.0 didn't cost Hillary any votes. I call bullshit.
2. Her illegal bathroom server cost her more votes. Thank Comey for not prosecuting her. She belongs in prison.
3. Hillary, and the DNC paid Russians for the Steele Dossier that the FBI used to illegally spy on Trump. Then the Trump-Russia Collusion lie, Obama's FBI falsifying evidence for FISA warrants, FBI Operations Crossfire-Hurricane and Razor, the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage of Trump, the bullshit Mueller Investigation, the bullshit Impeachments, Russians actually helped Hillary way more than Trump.

So when you compare actual facts of who the Russians helped, who misused the FBI, and who the MSM treated unfairly, you should be able to see that Trump was the one who was the underdog that beat the crooked DC swamp creatures.

 

[Nostra]

Trump didn't "force NATO to spend more money" if that is what you are trying to claim.

NATO nations had committed to increasing their contributions begining in 2014.

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Trump criticizes Germany and other allies at summit​

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And didn’t until Trump called them out.

 

[Lesh]

1. I can deny that Russia helped Trump. Guccifer 2.0 didn't cost Hillary any votes. I call bullshit.

The relative success is not the issue. They DID hack the election

Thank Comey for not prosecuting her.

No...for putting the nail in the coffin

 

[Lesh]

And didn’t until Trump called them out.

They absolutely were increasing their military spending as has been documented

 

[krichton]

And of course you're simply lying to the USMB forum again, as usual.

Why do you base all of your political opinions on the stupid lies you tell yourself rather than reality and facts?

"Why do you base all of your political opinions on the stupid lies you tell yourself rather than reality and facts?"

^^^ Talk about some hilarious projection here. Have you ever heard of irony before?

Trump himself said that Putin helped him. Trump openly asked russia to hack hillary's emails and then Russia did it within 24 hours. Why do you tell yourself stupid lies rather than base your opinions on reality?

 

[Nostra]

I showed you Bernie supporters felt burned due to the revelations in the leaked emails and that many wouldn't vote for Hillary. You've been baying at the moon ever since.

Russia didn’t leak Hitlery’s emails, Dumbass.

 

[jc456]

Well, I don't know if there is evidence to support that....either way...so what? Obviously it's not good to hack, but....the email content is the issue as well....I am sorry, I am not sorry, that the emails exposed your party as corrupt and help cost them the election.

It's like someone breaking into someone's home...and finding a box of child porn....I certainly don't want people breaking into homes, but glad the child porn was exposed.

except it never was russia. that's the rabbit hole.

 

[Nostra]

Of course the popular vote matters, it matters at the state level. And when something negative about a candidate surfaces, which it always does, it costs that candidate votes. If it didn't, opposition would never bother digging up dirt on their opponents.

In the 2016 election, Russia helped Trump by hacking the DNC and Hillary's campaign manager and air dirty laundry about Democrats and Hillary and it cost her votes. Denying that is denying reality.

Why do you think repeating that lie does anything but make you look stupid?

Hidden Over 2 Years: Dem Cyber-Firm's Sworn Testimony It Had No Proof of Russian Hack of DNC

CrowdStrike, the private cyber-security firm that first accused Russia of hacking Democratic Party emails and served as a critical source for U.S. intelligence officials in the years-long Trump-Russia

www.realclearinvestigations.com

 

[Nostra]

They interfered by hacking email accounts and getting the hacked emails published on the Internet.

Liar.