TNHarley
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LMAO you might act like a hack sometimes, but you are funnyWell, this is gonna backfire in the orange shitlord's ugly face.
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LMAO you might act like a hack sometimes, but you are funnyWell, this is gonna backfire in the orange shitlord's ugly face.
Trump has effectively convinced nearly half the nation that only he and openly partisan sources loyal to him can be trusted. That's a pretty good start.Fascists can never fully stamp out dissent. They can get close, though. Trump's only had a month. Give him time.The first step in fascism is eliminating dissent
And you feel that dissent against Trump has been eliminated?
So, you see rapid progress being made in stamping out dissent?
Can you expand on how this has been done, or witnessed?
Have the mass demonstrations been carted off to camps?
Have the hostile press been shut down?
Has Hollywood had censors placed in their studios at gunpoint?
The rest? Like I said, he's only had a month. Give him time.
This is what constitutes a well argued, articulate retort from a Trump partisan. Grains of salt are available in the lobby.It is bias when those "facts" are not true and were posted just because the media disagrees with the president or wishes to influence an election.Reporting facts that harm the image of the president is not propaganda. It's reporting It's journalism.So an adversarial relationship between the White House and the press is something to celebrate? Something to champion? Something healthy for our democracy?Trump lies! Get some new materialWhy does Trump hate the press? because the press is calling him on his outrageous lies! Trump says something that is demonstrably untrue. Then, when this is pointed out, he cries "fake news" "alternative facts"!
Meanwhile, the dedicated partisans who fail to see that the emperor is, indeed, without clothes, rallies to his indefensible side and chimes along with the idiot that the press is lying.
All the while, our basic freedom of a free press is being eroded by an amateur, a petulant game show host with no statesmanlike qualities. And we're all supposed to skip along merrily with this subversion of America.
Everyoen knows this. Everyone also knows those people kicked out have been gargling bullshit for months.
Trump has been steadily undermining our democracy. He probably, if not absolutely colluded with the Russians to hack our democratic process. When Nixon did it in 1972 it was seen as a constitutional crisis. When Trump did it in 2016, his partisan supporters cheered!
Trump called the press 'the enemy of the American people'. Is this the attitude of a responsible democratic leader, or something more akin to an authoritarian strongman?
It may be that Trump has absolutely no experience in government. It may be that a minority of the electorate wanted an amateur, an outsider to 'shake things up'. It may be that Trump has utterly failed to surround himself with 'the best and brightest'. And it may be that Trump's vision of how the American people should be regarded is by purely amateurish means laced with petulance and division and fear mongering. And, unfortunately, some of that minority of the electorate is just as amateurish, crass, boorish and undemocratic as the huckster buffoon they voted for.
The press created the adversarial relationship, not the President. They pulled their biased reporting tricks and are now paying the price.
It's over for you socialists. Lie, bitch and moan all you wish. America will not listen to your propaganda any longer.
As for bias, I guess bias is just fine so long as it confirms your beliefs rather than challenges them. Re enforces your ideology rather than question it.
Bias in the irresponsible wild west 'media' of the internet where fact checking is a pain in the rear and the priority is on spreading the ideological word, not the truth is just fine with the simple minded partisan. Anything more challenging is just too hard to accept. So it gets demonized and our freedoms suffer.
Journalism is the one and only occupation mentioned in the constitution. Because it is vital to our democracy.
For example, the famed high level anonymous sources of CNN...
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PayHorseshit, flake. No one is preventing them from speaking. Trump is exercising his free speech to speak to whom he wishes - which ain't fake news agencies. Pay back is a bitch.There goes our 1st amendment rights, whats next?
Every major outlet, yesSo every news outlet needs to be admitted for us to have a free press?Freedom of the press?
Who decides what media outlet is a major news outlet?
Viewership.
Just viewership? What about online sources? What about readership?
How many viewers do you need? Would it be just TV or cable, or satellite? What about internet? Would that count?
I wouldn't expect a blind supporter of fascism like yourself to say differentTrump has effectively convinced nearly half the nation that only he and openly partisan sources loyal to him can be trusted. That's a pretty good start.Fascists can never fully stamp out dissent. They can get close, though. Trump's only had a month. Give him time.The first step in fascism is eliminating dissent
And you feel that dissent against Trump has been eliminated?
So, you see rapid progress being made in stamping out dissent?
Can you expand on how this has been done, or witnessed?
Have the mass demonstrations been carted off to camps?
Have the hostile press been shut down?
Has Hollywood had censors placed in their studios at gunpoint?
The rest? Like I said, he's only had a month. Give him time.
THe media has convinced half that nation that they are not to be trusted.
And they can't.
That's on them, not on Trump.
That in no way supports your crazy talk about fascism.
Trump has effectively convinced nearly half the nation that only he and openly partisan sources loyal to him can be trusted. That's a pretty good start.Fascists can never fully stamp out dissent. They can get close, though. Trump's only had a month. Give him time.The first step in fascism is eliminating dissent
And you feel that dissent against Trump has been eliminated?
So, you see rapid progress being made in stamping out dissent?
Can you expand on how this has been done, or witnessed?
Have the mass demonstrations been carted off to camps?
Have the hostile press been shut down?
Has Hollywood had censors placed in their studios at gunpoint?
The rest? Like I said, he's only had a month. Give him time.
THe media has convinced half that nation that they are not to be trusted.
And they can't.
That's on them, not on Trump.
That in no way supports your crazy talk about fascism.
This is what constitutes a well argued, articulate retort from a Trump partisan. Grains of salt are available in the lobby.It is bias when those "facts" are not true and were posted just because the media disagrees with the president or wishes to influence an election.Reporting facts that harm the image of the president is not propaganda. It's reporting It's journalism.So an adversarial relationship between the White House and the press is something to celebrate? Something to champion? Something healthy for our democracy?Trump lies! Get some new material
Everyoen knows this. Everyone also knows those people kicked out have been gargling bullshit for months.
Trump has been steadily undermining our democracy. He probably, if not absolutely colluded with the Russians to hack our democratic process. When Nixon did it in 1972 it was seen as a constitutional crisis. When Trump did it in 2016, his partisan supporters cheered!
Trump called the press 'the enemy of the American people'. Is this the attitude of a responsible democratic leader, or something more akin to an authoritarian strongman?
It may be that Trump has absolutely no experience in government. It may be that a minority of the electorate wanted an amateur, an outsider to 'shake things up'. It may be that Trump has utterly failed to surround himself with 'the best and brightest'. And it may be that Trump's vision of how the American people should be regarded is by purely amateurish means laced with petulance and division and fear mongering. And, unfortunately, some of that minority of the electorate is just as amateurish, crass, boorish and undemocratic as the huckster buffoon they voted for.
The press created the adversarial relationship, not the President. They pulled their biased reporting tricks and are now paying the price.
It's over for you socialists. Lie, bitch and moan all you wish. America will not listen to your propaganda any longer.
As for bias, I guess bias is just fine so long as it confirms your beliefs rather than challenges them. Re enforces your ideology rather than question it.
Bias in the irresponsible wild west 'media' of the internet where fact checking is a pain in the rear and the priority is on spreading the ideological word, not the truth is just fine with the simple minded partisan. Anything more challenging is just too hard to accept. So it gets demonized and our freedoms suffer.
Journalism is the one and only occupation mentioned in the constitution. Because it is vital to our democracy.
For example, the famed high level anonymous sources of CNN...
View attachment 114008
at least he did not ban John Miller and John Baron from the media briefing....What an authoritarian piece of shit.
Only idiots do not understand that this is part of the march to an authoritarian fascist regime.
Saying no to propaganda outlets is fascism now?Fascism, plain and simple. Only idiots do not understand that this is part of the march to an authoritarian fascist regime.
Trump style fascism deserves its own name. What can we call it?
Are there a lot of democracies that have done what trump is doing to the free press? There are fascist regimes that started out doing what he is doing. Perhaps pointing out the free democracy that did this would be helpful.Trump has effectively convinced nearly half the nation that only he and openly partisan sources loyal to him can be trusted. That's a pretty good start.Fascists can never fully stamp out dissent. They can get close, though. Trump's only had a month. Give him time.The first step in fascism is eliminating dissent
And you feel that dissent against Trump has been eliminated?
So, you see rapid progress being made in stamping out dissent?
Can you expand on how this has been done, or witnessed?
Have the mass demonstrations been carted off to camps?
Have the hostile press been shut down?
Has Hollywood had censors placed in their studios at gunpoint?
The rest? Like I said, he's only had a month. Give him time.
THe media has convinced half that nation that they are not to be trusted.
And they can't.
That's on them, not on Trump.
That in no way supports your crazy talk about fascism.
Fascism, plain and simple. Only idiots do not understand that this is part of the march to an authoritarian fascist regime.